Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-27 Thread Robin Netherton

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Elizabeth Walpole wrote:

> I will do what I can to stop image theft but I don't have the
> resources to search the internet every time somebody submits a picture
> so, I'm going to work on a presumption of innocence until proven
> guilty. However I will keep a record of the name of the person who
> submits a photo and if somebody brings it to my attention I will ban
> any image thief from submitting more photos.

Perhaps also make an explicit rule that people are to submit only photos
of themselves or costumes they have made (or something similarly
restrictive). Otherwise people might assume the purpose of the site is to
seek comments on costumes they've seen elsewhere, e.g. "I saw someone
wearing this, what do you think?" or "Look what I found, isn't this a
hoot?" -- these can be valid questions but probably not what you want in
your forum, and that's where the privacy and copyright violations will
occur.

I think asking everyone who posts pictures or comments to register first
might be a good way to cut down on the viciousness that appeared on the
original site, if there's some way to allow people to vote/comment without
their identities being posted (but perhaps accessible to you). Then you
could boot the trolls and ballot-box stuffers.

You might also consider making explicit just what the question means. Is
it "Please identify every possible error you can spot in this based on
your personal knowledge of the period," or -- and I'm guessing this is
more likely -- "If you saw this person at an event, rate your overall
initial impression from 0 (wandered in by mistake) to 10 (stepped out of a
time machine)." 

Also, consider whether you want to allow people to specify in their
picture postings just what they want viewers to consider: the whole outfit
or just a certain portion, the period/place/class they're aiming for,
whether it's a first attempt, whether it's 95 degrees out and that's why
they took off the fur-lined overdress, whether it was an informal snapshot
and thus the person happened to be wearing glasses and carrying a
clipboard but please comment on the outfit thankyouverymuch.

--Robin

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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-27 Thread Cynthia Virtue

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you for your reassurance. I think the premise behind the original one
was - "Take any image and do a critique" which I think is questionable to
say the least.


The old site didn't specify that it had to be a picture of one's own 
work, or even if the site was trying to be serious or silly.  As a 
result, it got fairly crazy, and some people clearly thought it was 
"let's be as unhelpfully critical as possible, for fun."


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It stressed the "negative effects" of long hair on "human intelligence 
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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> I wish you luck with your new venture.
>
> However, the original website took a picture from my personal website
> without my permission - a fantasy costume and so specified - and made a
> critique as if it was an historical one. I do hope that this will not
> happen on your new version.
>
> Suzi
>
I will do what I can to stop image theft but I don't have the resources to
search the internet every time somebody submits a picture so, I'm going to
work on a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. However I will keep
a record of the name of the person who submits a photo and if somebody
brings it to my attention I will ban any image thief from submitting more
photos.
Elizabeth

Thank you for your reassurance. I think the premise behind the original one
was - "Take any image and do a critique" which I think is questionable to
say the least. If I want a critique of my work I am happy to submit it
personally, but as a professional maker, I am bound by customer choice, so
often it is not truly "historical". Your new version sounds much more
sensible and personal, and I hope it goes well.

Suzi


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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-27 Thread Elizabeth Walpole


> I wish you luck with your new venture.
>
> However, the original website took a picture from my personal website
> without my permission - a fantasy costume and so specified - and made a
> critique as if it was an historical one. I do hope that this will not
> happen on your new version.
>
> Suzi
>
I will do what I can to stop image theft but I don't have the resources to
search the internet every time somebody submits a picture so, I'm going to
work on a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. However I will keep
a record of the name of the person who submits a photo and if somebody
brings it to my attention I will ban any image thief from submitting more
photos.
Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/

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RE: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello everyone,
many of you may remember the original Am I Period or Not website run by
Kirrily Roberts, well now myself and a team of assistants are reviving the
idea at http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/
If you aren't familiar with the concept here's a brief summary: People send
in photos of the historical costumes they've made, the photos are loaded
onto a website where people can view them, vote on how period accurate they
are and leave comments. This new Am I Period Or Not website covers the
fashions of any era you like, from the first civilisations to the day before
yesterday. Right now the website is in it's infancy there are 5 16th century
outfits but we're happy to expand (right now there are a lot of empty
albums). So if you're interested in seeing other people's work or you want
to see your own work critiqued (though be warned, not everyone on the
internet is polite so if you're sensitive about your work you might want to
re-think sending it in) come along and have a look. Fell free to pass this
message on, but be warned geocities doesn't deal well with floods of people
viewing the site all at once, and you may get an error message if a lot of
people all turn up at once.
enjoy,


I wish you luck with your new venture.

However, the original website took a picture from my personal website
without my permission - a fantasy costume and so specified - and made a
critique as if it was an historical one. I do hope that this will not
happen on your new version. 

Suzi


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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-26 Thread Karinne Taylor
Thanks for the compliments :) There is a section for post 16th
century, and one of "not-so-period" but most of our membership is
focussed on pre-16th century clothing. So it doesn't get much traffic.

That can of course change. we are always welcome to new members, it's
a samll but active community.

Cheers, Karinne
16thC Moderator for MedCos site

On 7/27/05, Dawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you're looking for a fairly serious feedback site, try here:
> 
> http://slumberland.org/moodle/course/view.php?id=5
> 
> Looks like it's only medieval and renaissance, but the folks there seem
> to be pretty mature about the comments thing, and since the site
> requires registration there's little or no abuse.

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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-26 Thread Dawn

Cynthia Virtue wrote:


Is it going to be a serious website, or a joke website, with lots of 
joke submissions, like the former version?




If you're looking for a fairly serious feedback site, try here:

http://slumberland.org/moodle/course/view.php?id=5

Looks like it's only medieval and renaissance, but the folks there seem 
to be pretty mature about the comments thing, and since the site 
requires registration there's little or no abuse.




Dawn


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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Walpole

- Original Message - 
From: "Cynthia Virtue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross
post)


> Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
> > If you aren't familiar with the concept here's a brief summary: People
send
> > in photos of the historical costumes they've made, the photos are loaded
> > onto a website where people can view them, vote on how period accurate
they
> > are and leave comments.
>
> Is it going to be a serious website, or a joke website, with lots of
> joke submissions, like the former version?
> -- 
> Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent

Well I've created a category for fantasy creations with a tenuous link to
history and I'm going to cut out much of the fetish wear (as the terms of
use for the site that's hosting the photos says anything they define as
pornography will get the account cancelled and all the photos deleted so I'm
going to err on the side of caution). I haven't  decided yet what to do if I
think somebody has requested the wrong category, hopefully this will be
predominantly serious attempts and the jokes will be confined to the 'other'
category
Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/

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Re: [h-cost] launching a new Am I Period or Not website (cross post)

2005-07-26 Thread Cynthia Virtue

Elizabeth Walpole wrote:

If you aren't familiar with the concept here's a brief summary: People send
in photos of the historical costumes they've made, the photos are loaded
onto a website where people can view them, vote on how period accurate they
are and leave comments.


Is it going to be a serious website, or a joke website, with lots of 
joke submissions, like the former version?


--
Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent

  "Such virtue hath my pen"  -Shakespeare, Sonnet 81
   "I knew this wasn't _my_ pen!"  --Cynthia Virtue
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