Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
The only scene I can recall where you can see Imelda Staunton's height in direct comparison to another character is a confrontation between her and Maggie Smith (Professor McGonagall) and I noticed that Maggie Smith looked to be the same height when she was standing one step lower on the stairs. Elizabeth - Original Message - From: "Abel, Cynthia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" They may have shot her to look tall like, Robbie Contrane's Hagrid as well. Haven't seen the movie either yet, but notice from the way it is shot, in the previews, Imelda looks taller than she is, apparently. For instance, when Harry is before the Ministry of Magic, she seems to be seated as part of a rising stack(stadium seating)of officials, and in other previews appears to be standing when others are sitting. Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
Tie shoes to your knees, then kneel. Like Tim Conway as "Dorf" :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:14 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" It is slightly on topic for the costumes, specifically ms. Umbridge's pink Chanel knockoff. :) What is scary is that at JoAnne's on there clearance shelf in my town, they have that pink blended thick yarn material. But I'm to tall to go to the masquerade at NASCI-FI as Umbridge. :) But I agree that discussion of the new book is OT. De -Original Message- I think that's only fair. But then, I wasn't planning to discuss Harry Potter on this list--I don't think it's on topic. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do." -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
MaggiRos wrote: There's a scene full of maneuvering on a staircase with Prof MacGonagle--who is much taller--that's hysterical. reminded me a bit of the stairway scene from 1776, actually. No spoilers. Just saw it last night and thought it was(since ALEP isn't an actual non-profit, you aren't bound by donating only to official non-profits wonderful. Umbridge's fake Chanel pinkishness was horrible--perfect, but horrible. It did sort of make up for the lack of literal toad-likeness that Rowling emphasis almost to death in the book. in addition to the missing Alice band (with the bow that always looked like a fly), they seemed to forget her usual green cardigan (ewww, on top of those pinks?!) that also emphasized her toad-iness. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
It is slightly on topic for the costumes, specifically ms. Umbridge's pink Chanel knockoff. :) What is scary is that at JoAnne's on there clearance shelf in my town, they have that pink blended thick yarn material. But I'm to tall to go to the masquerade at NASCI-FI as Umbridge. :) But I agree that discussion of the new book is OT. De -Original Message- I think that's only fair. But then, I wasn't planning to discuss Harry Potter on this list--I don't think it's on topic. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do." -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
There's a scene full of maneuvering on a staircase with Prof MacGonagle--who is much taller--that's hysterical. No spoilers. Just saw it last night and thought it was wonderful. Umbridge's fake Chanel pinkishness was horrible--perfect, but horrible. It did sort of make up for the lack of literal toad-likeness that Rowling emphasis almost to death in the book. MaggiRos --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/16/2007 4:47:06 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Of course, I haven't watched the movie yet, I > suppose they may have > put her in heels. > > > > Only very low, fushia heels! I think her sense of > height, which I didn't > notice that much, might come from camera angles, and > the fact that she stands > on a dias to teach while the students are seated, > and such. I'm not sure if > there was a conscious effort to make her look tall > and commanding. > > What I found so interesting is that I, at least, > don't usually associate > pink with a mean character. > > Ann Wass > > > > ** Get a sneak > peak of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
At 11:44 PM 7/16/2007, you wrote: Hi Harry Potter fans! may we come to a concensus here and now about the last book, due to be released in the US July 21? Please, no discussing it on the public list for at least a month! No spoilers, ok? thanks! Arlys, another fan Works for me. I may well avoid the internet altogether till I have had a chance to read the book. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
At 10:22 PM 7/16/2007, you wrote: What I found so interesting is that I, at least, don't usually associate pink with a mean character. I think that and the kittens on the wall and her constant smiling were intended to point up the fact that she was the evil-that-thinks-itself-good. Either that or pink is the new black, lol! Laurie Yes, it was the juxtaposition of the really very little-girly, ultra-feminine (sickeningly sweet) appearance and attitude that makes her evilness even more appalling. She's not supposed to APPEAR commanding or authoritative, so when you find out how cruel she is, the shock makes it that much worse. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
On Monday 16 July 2007, Cynthia J Ley wrote: > Hi Harry Potter fans! > > may we come to a concensus here and now about the last book, due to be > released in the US July 21? Please, no discussing it on the public list > for at least a month! No spoilers, ok? I think that's only fair. But then, I wasn't planning to discuss Harry Potter on this list--I don't think it's on topic. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do." -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" Jackie Kennedy is Historic
I went in Costume to the book party but didn't get my book with the crowd at the stroke of midnight! Big Mistake! My book didn't come until after 3pm and my housemate's until the next day! I have to have that book read by about 11am because I'm helping my son move his fiancee. She just suffered an ectopic pregnancy that burst and nearly killed her so she is to be duct taped to a chair and allowed to offer nothing but advice as we crate her stuff prior to her new house! Regina (saw the movie at the Seattle IMAX with the fight scene in 3D - WoW!) > I was going to see the movie this coming weekend as I hate dealing with > large crowds, but the last Harry Potter book will be hitting my mailbox > sometime Saturday, so I will have to read the last book first!! > > Cindy Abel > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
Hi Harry Potter fans! may we come to a concensus here and now about the last book, due to be released in the US July 21? Please, no discussing it on the public list for at least a month! No spoilers, ok? thanks! Arlys, another fan On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:22:52 -0700 "zelda crusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > >Only very low, fushia heels! I think her sense of height, which I > didn't > >notice that much, might come from camera angles, and the fact that > she > >stands > >on a dias to teach while the students are seated, and such. I'm > not sure > >if > >there was a conscious effort to make her look tall and commanding. > > I didn't think she looked tall at all in the movie. > > > >What I found so interesting is that I, at least, don't usually > associate > >pink with a mean character. > > > I think that and the kittens on the wall and her constant smiling > were > intended to point up the fact that she was the > evil-that-thinks-itself-good. > Either that or pink is the new black, lol! > > Laurie > > > > > > > >** Get a sneak peak of the > all-new AOL > >at > >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >___ > >h-costume mailing list > >h-costume@mail.indra.com > >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _ > http://newlivehotmail.com > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
Only very low, fushia heels! I think her sense of height, which I didn't notice that much, might come from camera angles, and the fact that she stands on a dias to teach while the students are seated, and such. I'm not sure if there was a conscious effort to make her look tall and commanding. I didn't think she looked tall at all in the movie. What I found so interesting is that I, at least, don't usually associate pink with a mean character. I think that and the kittens on the wall and her constant smiling were intended to point up the fact that she was the evil-that-thinks-itself-good. Either that or pink is the new black, lol! Laurie ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ http://newlivehotmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
On Monday 16 July 2007, Abel, Cynthia wrote: > They may have shot her to look tall like, Robbie Contrane's Hagrid as > well. Haven't seen the movie either yet, but notice from the way it is > shot, in the previews, Imelda looks taller than she is, apparently. For > instance, when Harry is before the Ministry of Magic, she seems to be > seated as part of a rising stack(stadium seating)of officials, and in > other previews appears to be standing when others are sitting. I think it's purely psychological. She plays the role standing *very* straight, which can give an impression of height. But I didn't get the impression that she was any taller than average--and apparently she's shorter than that. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do." -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
In a message dated 7/16/2007 4:47:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, I haven't watched the movie yet, I suppose they may have put her in heels. Only very low, fushia heels! I think her sense of height, which I didn't notice that much, might come from camera angles, and the fact that she stands on a dias to teach while the students are seated, and such. I'm not sure if there was a conscious effort to make her look tall and commanding. What I found so interesting is that I, at least, don't usually associate pink with a mean character. Ann Wass ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
They may have shot her to look tall like, Robbie Contrane's Hagrid as well. Haven't seen the movie either yet, but notice from the way it is shot, in the previews, Imelda looks taller than she is, apparently. For instance, when Harry is before the Ministry of Magic, she seems to be seated as part of a rising stack(stadium seating)of officials, and in other previews appears to be standing when others are sitting. Cindy Abel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew T Trembley Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 3:46 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" On Jul 16, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Abel, Cynthia wrote: > So putting the movie Umbridge in bad Chanel knockoffs 60's suits was > not such a bad idea, I think. Also as a Ministry of Magic official, > she would be more intimidating to the students and the audience by > being tall--we associate height with authority. It's Imelda Staunton. I've seen her in a lot of stuff; she often works with Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie. She's not at all a tall woman. Positively tiny standing next to Fry and Laurie. 5' even according to the bio information I was able to find. Of course, I haven't watched the movie yet, I suppose they may have put her in heels. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
Hopefully someday they will do the Harry Potter books PBS style, with each book getting multiple 2 hour "moviettes". Like what A&E did with "Pride and Prejudice". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" In a message dated 7/15/2007 11:12:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may get banned for saying this, but I was so irritated at the liberties they took with Umbridge that she grated on me the entire movie. She is so particularly described as "frog-like" and wearing an Alice Band (a hair band for those US types that never saw the Tennille drawings for Alice in Wonderland!). You are right about that--but it was so long since I had read the book that I had forgotten all about the description of her. I have to admit, she wasn't what I would have chosen, but I thought it was an interesting interpretation all the same. And at 138 minutes, the movie was quite long enough. You can't do a 700 page book as one movie without cutting something. And if each book was made into 3 movies, well, that is 21 films, in all, isn't it? Ann Wass ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
On Jul 16, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Abel, Cynthia wrote: So putting the movie Umbridge in bad Chanel knockoffs 60's suits was not such a bad idea, I think. Also as a Ministry of Magic official, she would be more intimidating to the students and the audience by being tall--we associate height with authority. It's Imelda Staunton. I've seen her in a lot of stuff; she often works with Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie. She's not at all a tall woman. Positively tiny standing next to Fry and Laurie. 5' even according to the bio information I was able to find. Of course, I haven't watched the movie yet, I suppose they may have put her in heels. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
I was going to see the movie this coming weekend as I hate dealing with large crowds, but the last Harry Potter book will be hitting my mailbox sometime Saturday, so I will have to read the last book first!! Cindy Abel I went to see it yesterday afternoon, and was pleased to find it not terribly crowded at all. Of course, that could be because they had it showing in three theaters, at staggered times, but whatever the reason I was rather glad. No one kicked my seat, I didn't hear anyone talking, and no one's cell phone rang through the whole thing! Oh, and I enjoyed the movie. And wished I could go see it again, when I stepped out into the parking lot where the temp was well over 90 degrees. bleccch. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
Well, the movies are different from the books. In the books, I think that the students only wear robes over everyday attire; in the movie they wear uniforms to class and usually robes. Robes aren't worn all the time. Also, this year and part of last when the movie was shooting, a headband(or Alice)band was definitely a fashion must, especially for the age group worshiping Paris Hilton et.al as fashion icons. So putting the movie Umbridge in bad Chanel knockoffs 60's suits was not such a bad idea, I think. Also as a Ministry of Magic official, she would be more intimidating to the students and the audience by being tall--we associate height with authority. I do agree that this one book is worth 2 or 3 movies in length--perhaps in the future a literal miniseries of all the books might get done as in two-plus hours it isn't possible to be totally faithful to each book. I was going to see the movie this coming weekend as I hate dealing with large crowds, but the last Harry Potter book will be hitting my mailbox sometime Saturday, so I will have to read the last book first!! Cindy Abel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wanda Pease Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:15 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" I may get banned for saying this, but I was so irritated at the liberties they took with Umbridge that she grated on me the entire movie. She is so particularly described as "frog-like" and wearing an Alice Band (a hair band for those US types that never saw the Tennille drawings for Alice in Wonderland!). This woman did the syrupy sweet b*(h, but was too tall, and too together to suit my vision. I missed Peeves too! I suppose that to do it justice this book needs someone to do it in 3 movies (the fight scene alone would make an entire movie!) like Lord of the Rings! Man did I recognize that Pink clothing from the Jackie Kennedy days! Thank God I wasn't wearing it, but I do recognize it! Wanda > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" > > > Went to see this movie yesterday. Of special interest to me was the > wardrobe of Dolores Umbridge. I think they cornered the market on > pink boucle. One great outfit after another, all in shades of > pink/fushia/soft red, and great cat jewelry. > > Ann Wass > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
In a message dated 7/15/2007 11:12:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may get banned for saying this, but I was so irritated at the liberties they took with Umbridge that she grated on me the entire movie. She is so particularly described as "frog-like" and wearing an Alice Band (a hair band for those US types that never saw the Tennille drawings for Alice in Wonderland!). You are right about that--but it was so long since I had read the book that I had forgotten all about the description of her. I have to admit, she wasn't what I would have chosen, but I thought it was an interesting interpretation all the same. And at 138 minutes, the movie was quite long enough. You can't do a 700 page book as one movie without cutting something. And if each book was made into 3 movies, well, that is 21 films, in all, isn't it? Ann Wass ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix"
I may get banned for saying this, but I was so irritated at the liberties they took with Umbridge that she grated on me the entire movie. She is so particularly described as "frog-like" and wearing an Alice Band (a hair band for those US types that never saw the Tennille drawings for Alice in Wonderland!). This woman did the syrupy sweet b*(h, but was too tall, and too together to suit my vision. I missed Peeves too! I suppose that to do it justice this book needs someone to do it in 3 movies (the fight scene alone would make an entire movie!) like Lord of the Rings! Man did I recognize that Pink clothing from the Jackie Kennedy days! Thank God I wasn't wearing it, but I do recognize it! Wanda > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [h-cost] "Order of the Phoenix" > > > Went to see this movie yesterday. Of special interest to me was the > wardrobe of Dolores Umbridge. I think they cornered the market > on pink boucle. One > great outfit after another, all in shades of pink/fushia/soft > red, and great > cat jewelry. > > Ann Wass > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
