Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Extending Wireless Range

2008-11-24 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi,

As someone said you could use cat5 cable at this distance (make sure it is 
"exterior grade" or it won't survive the elements outside)

I recently bought one of these 
http://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/1387 it works well with 
Ubuntu and Windows but FC9's faulty NetworkManager has a problem with it. 

Its performance is pretty good. It also has a removable antenna so you could 
either get an extension cable and put the antenna outside or buy a nice, 
directional, outdoor antenna. A directional antenna mounted on the wall outside 
and correctly aimed should give you much improved results. 

Cheers,
Paul. 


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-Original Message-
From: "Philip Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:30:21 
To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List
Subject: [Hampshire] [OT] Extending Wireless Range


Hi,

My Mother-in-law as asked me to help her get onto the internet. Her
brother has bought her a new laptop and I need to set it up. My
Sister-in-law lives just nearby, and visitors to the Mother-in-law
have been able to connect to the wireless router in the
sister-in-law's house.

Unfortunately, the Mother-in-law's laptop struggles to pick up the
signal. I have found that if I move it to a window in direct line of
site of the house with the router, it will pick up the signal, but is
right on the limit of usefulness.

The router is a speedtouch 585v6. It is on a desk by a window in site
of the Mother-in-law's house. The laptop is on a desk by a window in
site of the window that the router is behind. The distance between the
windows is (according to google maps) about 31 meters. There are no
other houses for at least 75 meters.

I am guessing that my options are:-
* Buy a router with higher power output and greater range.
* Buy a repeater that has a better reciever antenna than the laptop
and mount that in the Mother-in-law's house.
* Something else I have yet to learn about (This is where you guys can
help me big time :-) )
* Suggest that the Mother-in-law purchases her own broadband.

I don't really want to suggest the last option, as I know she will
only ever be a light user, and that would seem like a waste. Between
her and my Sister-in-law, they will only ever remain light users.

Any good ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Extending Wireless Range

2008-11-24 Thread Alex Phillips
Philip Stubbs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The router is a speedtouch 585v6. It is on a desk by a window in site
> of the Mother-in-law's house. The laptop is on a desk by a window in
> site of the window that the router is behind. The distance between the
> windows is (according to google maps) about 31 meters. There are no
> other houses for at least 75 meters.
>
> I am guessing that my options are:-
> * Buy a router with higher power output and greater range.
> * Buy a repeater that has a better reciever antenna than the laptop
> and mount that in the Mother-in-law's house.
> * Something else I have yet to learn about (This is where you guys can
> help me big time :-) )
> * Suggest that the Mother-in-law purchases her own broadband.
>
> 
>
> Any good ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>   

Do your sister/mother-in-law own the land between the houses ?

In a similar situation previously, I purchased a 100m roll of cat5 and 
ran a cable between two office buildings. The router has LAN ports, so 
you just need an AP at the M-in-L´s end...

Just a thought.

Alex.

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Re: [Hampshire] Hex dump

2008-11-24 Thread Rob Malpass

- Original Message - 
From: "john lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Hex dump


> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:52:28 -
> "Rob Malpass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Hugo Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Hampshire LUG Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Hex dump
>>
>>
>> >  $ hd foo.img
>
> fwiw mc can display a file in hex (F3 + f4)
>
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>

Well - you live and learn - and I've certainly learned something here - 
thanks to all for you replies.

Cheers
Rob 


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Re: [Hampshire] digital cameras

2008-11-24 Thread Peter Alefounder

"Gordon Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> FWIW, I'm a huge fan of Olympus. They're great cameras, mount as USB 
> mass storage and have always been very reliable.

I was looking at some Olympus cameras on Saturday. The one with a
proper zoom lens was certainly better than the compact. I have to
decide whether I would make enough use of such a thing to justify
the extra cost. However, I was not convinced that the compact gave
any better results than a cheaper Fugifilm compact.

> Depth of field should not be a problem given half-decent lighting. I've 
> been known to use a cheap (about a tenner)  halogen floodlight 

It is safe to assume that extra lighting of any kind would not be 
allowed in a record office.

> As I understand it, Peter (or Peter's wife) has a specific need, and 
> it's not 'just' for an A3 print. I understand that the need is for 
> detailed study on the texts and other marking on old documents, "some of 
> which are larger than A3" and he/she or other studiers are likely to be 
> looking at these documents at significan magnification. I believe his 
> reasoning for 10M is because that's the resolution he needs to resolve 
> the detail.

No wife, unfortunately! It is not so much detailed study on markings
as being able to cope with sizes from a few square inches (with
small writing) up to larger than A3 (usually with reasonably sized
writing, unless something's been inserted between the lines). So,
the need is for a macro mode for the small documents and good
resolution even for the large ones. I would prefer to avoid having
to join sections together later, but that would be a matter of
judgement at the time as to how clear the writing is on any given
item.

Stephen Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The main reason for poor quality of images is mainly down to the optical 
> quality of the lens. Many compact Digital Cameras are very challenged 
> optically.

Having now tried a few, I would agree with that!

> Camera memory cards are formatted FAT32 so can easily be read & written 
> by Linux.

Thank you! I thought that might be the case, but was not sure. I
have seen a USB connector for about 10 pounds that will accept 9
types of card. So, I do not have to worry about whether any
particular camera will talk to a Linux system: that had been my main
concern. Also, with every camera I have seen, deleting images is
slow and clumsy. That would be much faster with direct access to the
card.

> For the type of work ( Document Copying), a 6.1Mb DSLR with a decent 
> lens will work fine. 

Too expensive for my purposes, I think. I'm not aiming for Royal
Photographic Society Associateship, or even membership. I just want
images that I can read later rather than spend a lot of time doing
so in the record office. This is not neat typescript: think rather
of a faded, worn, dirty document consisting of lawyer's jargon
written in abbreviated mediaeval Latin with a quill pen by a bored
scribe who just wants to get finished quickly (to be fair, they're
not all as bad as that, and many of the problems I have had in the
past have been from prints from poor quality microfilm). On the
other hand, if I'm getting a camera anyway, it might as well be a
decent one that I can use for other things as well. At the moment,
I'm not sure that I would make much use of it, though.

> cameras then yes, use the CD but the CCD quality on some cameras is not 
> up to the sort of accurate focussing the macro photography demands.

I saw one (expensive) compact with a super macro mode. It could
focus down to 2-3 cm: the result was like having a camera attached
to a low power microscope.

Peter.



  

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Extending Wireless Range

2008-11-24 Thread Bob Dunlop
Hi,

On Mon, Nov 24 at 10:30, Philip Stubbs wrote:
...
> The router is a speedtouch 585v6. It is on a desk by a window in site
> of the Mother-in-law's house. The laptop is on a desk by a window in
> site of the window that the router is behind. The distance between the
> windows is (according to google maps) about 31 meters. There are no
> other houses for at least 75 meters.

Sounds like you need to attach a directional antenna to one end or the
other, preferably at the mother-in-laws end.  Unfortunatly neither end
supports detachable antennas.

I wonder if a passive repeater could be used.  ie. at the mother-in-laws
point a high gain directional antenna at the router in the sister-in-laws
and couple it back-to-back with a semi-directional pointing at the PC.
It's a trick I've seen used to get UHF signals around building, don't
know how well it would work in the GHz range, but might be fun to
experiment with a couple of Pringles cans.
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[Hampshire] [OT] Extending Wireless Range

2008-11-24 Thread Philip Stubbs
Hi,

My Mother-in-law as asked me to help her get onto the internet. Her
brother has bought her a new laptop and I need to set it up. My
Sister-in-law lives just nearby, and visitors to the Mother-in-law
have been able to connect to the wireless router in the
sister-in-law's house.

Unfortunately, the Mother-in-law's laptop struggles to pick up the
signal. I have found that if I move it to a window in direct line of
site of the house with the router, it will pick up the signal, but is
right on the limit of usefulness.

The router is a speedtouch 585v6. It is on a desk by a window in site
of the Mother-in-law's house. The laptop is on a desk by a window in
site of the window that the router is behind. The distance between the
windows is (according to google maps) about 31 meters. There are no
other houses for at least 75 meters.

I am guessing that my options are:-
* Buy a router with higher power output and greater range.
* Buy a repeater that has a better reciever antenna than the laptop
and mount that in the Mother-in-law's house.
* Something else I have yet to learn about (This is where you guys can
help me big time :-) )
* Suggest that the Mother-in-law purchases her own broadband.

I don't really want to suggest the last option, as I know she will
only ever be a light user, and that would seem like a waste. Between
her and my Sister-in-law, they will only ever remain light users.

Any good ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: [Hampshire] EEE pc compatibility

2008-11-24 Thread Stephen Pelc
From: pavithran

> Though its bundled with Xandros . I would like to
> install debian or gnewsense . 

There's a version of Ubuntu for the Eee. It works flawlessly on 
our Eee 701, except that some displays are a smidgen too big for 
the screen.

> And how is the performance ? Can we do simple tasks like
> document processing ( OO is slow and should obviously be
> slower in eee) and probably code some PHP. 

So far it's extremely good for what it is. However, we use it 
mostly for notes and USB testing, so we don't push it hard.

> Finally where do we get them in southampton?

PC World over the road from the station.

Stephen
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Re: [Hampshire] Hex dump

2008-11-24 Thread john lewis
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:52:28 -
"Rob Malpass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Hugo Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hampshire LUG Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Hex dump
> 
> 
> >  $ hd foo.img

fwiw mc can display a file in hex (F3 + f4)

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