Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On 12/09/13 11:04, Artur ?a;dka wrote: On 11/09/13 19:52, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:58:24 +0100, arturla...@gmail.com said: try Ubuntu (or K/X/Lubuntu) - it is Debian based, have very good support and work just out of the box while Debian needs much more configuration. In what way does Debian need much more configuration? (Genuine question) In my opinion and personal experience with novice or less experienced Linux users Ubuntu (or Mint) is easier and better for people who just want working system straight after installation. Of course it all depends on personal preferences and usage, but Ubuntu was made to be more desktop user friendly and it does the job very good, keeping almost all Debian functionality. I would consider Crunchbang as Debian with a bit of hand-holding Owain -- Google Has No Respect for Your Privacy http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/14/google-gmail-users-privacy-email-lawsuit -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Social Enterprise
On Wednesday 11 September 2013 23:48:51 Ally Biggs wrote: has anyone setup a similar venture? Sounds very like Jamie's. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 09:24 +0100, Owain Clarke wrote: Google Has No Respect for Your Privacy IMHO, that's an understatement (no disrespect). Google appears to see our personal information as it's prime target. I've been _very_ confident for a long time now that Google scans and uses gmail content. They've always scanned search and 'click-on' results (of course). They're now using tracking cookies that my Windows virus checker considers trojans. For a couple of years already, I now only use Google in any form as a last resort. Sadly I'm not convinced any other search-oriented companies are actually any better :-( Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
Thank you, Paul and others, for your comments. Paul Stimpson p...@stimpsonfamily.co.uk said: I generally reckon on 3-5 years' life for a PSU. If your PSU is older than 3 years then I would pension it off or, more likely, get a new case so my new toy is shiny too. If your PSU is that age, it may not have SATA power connectors for newer drives either. Has the old PSU got enough watts for the stuff you intend to put into the machine? If the machine has legacy PATA (IDE) drives then they are probably towards the end of their service life too and you would get better performance, and freedom from the worry the drives are going conk out on you, from going to modern SATA drives. I assembled the machine in 2002. There is a 12v connector (assuming wire colours are consistent with respect to the main ATX connector), but of course, it might not fit a modern board. Drives are IDE, there are two unused smaller power connectors, I have no idea what they are for. If I have to replace the PSU, that just leaves me with a case with a slightly sticky power switch. Not worth the trouble. Time for a new machine, I think, and to avoid a lot of hassle, one with Debian already installed. What is your intended use for the machine? I'm into 3D rendered games and handling video. The highest performance CPU I could find that would fit in that board was a dual core. For my usage, I would consider it a little underpowered. I've no great interest in games (the only one I thought was any good was called bz and it ran on a cluster of Silicon Graphics machines - that was years ago) and so far, I have not done any video editing. However, that is something I might do. I am considering getting one of these: https://secure.dnuk.com/systems/configure/d340.php a Deskstar D340, which is where I got the idea of an AMD 75 chipset from. I am not sure what motherboard DNUK are using, but if not the MSI FM2-A75MA-E35, it must be something very similar. There is the option of a quad core processor. How good is standard Linux software at exploiting these? For example, if the GIMP was processing an image, would it split it into 4 parts and process them concurrently? That is something I would find useful. arturla...@gmail.com said: As I wrote in previous thread, there should be no problem with any motherboard, but I will go to Intel platform - all because of AMD graphics card driver. You are going to use integrated GPU and I am sure that Intel HD Graphics will be much less problematic. DNUK are only offering AMD and I suppose must have solved any graphics problems. I have not found any supplier of Intel-based machines with Debian installed. Some years ago when I was using SuSE, I did have graphics problems - the machine would crash sometimes. With Debian, I have not attempted to install any 3D drivers and have had no such problem. I have not found out how to make Debian use all my 1GB of RAM with an AMD processor, but as the minimum RAM DNUK offer is 4GB, they must have solved that problem as well. Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk said: My only personal issue with Ubuntu itself is the Unity desktop I am quite happy with Debian KDE, and intend to stay with that. I have nothing particular against other desktops, it is just what I have got used to. Most stuff just installs and runs. I suspect I will have to re-compile some 32-bit C software, but I have the source code along with make files etc. Peter Alefounder. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:36:04 +0100 Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote: Hello Gordon, I've been _very_ confident for a long time now that Google scans and uses gmail content. They always have. They've never hidden that fact. That's why, like you, I prefer to avoid them. Even if I do need to search using their engines, I do so via https://startpage.com, a site that enables you to search using google anonymously. What I can't believe, because it's simply not possible, is that google 'accidentally' slurped up people's data whilst driving around taking pictures for streetview. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Well I don't want you to think I'm being obscene Fish - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Social Enterprise
It is not quite what you are outlining but you may find some like minded people https://www.codeclub.org.uk and http://nhshackday.com/ Very best of luck with whatever you do and let us know how you progress. Roger On 11/09/13 23:48, Ally Biggs wrote: Good evening everyone I have recently had this idea of setting up a Social Enterprise which would have a heavy emphasis on Open Source technologies and Linux. I want to give something back to the community and have a strong desire to help others. The key ideology of the enterprise is to train volunteers / customers / people from unprivileged backgrounds in Computing. The main income stream of the company would be a focus on refurbishment of IT equipment where it can be put to good use or resold. Prices would be reasonable! ( avenues such as eBay, gumtree) Second main income stream would be repairs, I have about 8 years experience repairing PC's and laptops Third income stream would be focused on administration and deployments for the small business and charity sector we can also throw in support contracts. And use Linux as alternative to Windows. I don't want to take advantage of volunteers who aid the progression, I want to be able to put volunteers through the Compita A+ training. That way as a Social Enterprise we will be giving something back they will become qualified I,T combined with experience which will either open doors or if the Enterprise expands we can take them on full time and explore other avenues such as IT call outs, home visits. There are diverse options for training I have alot of Windows experience. You guys have the Linux knowledge :) Few options for courses Computer hardware how to build PC Introduction to the Internet Desktop publishing Introduction to Windows Linux for beginners BASH Basics BASH scripting 101 Setting up a Home media Server Network Services for beginners Securing your Server I also thought able setting up a training room consisting of raspberry Pi's where users could be taught the basics of programming. I could really use your input I am passionate about Linux and helping others and I am sure alot of you guys are aswell has anyone setup a similar venture? Sent from my iPhone -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 14:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: What I can't believe, because it's simply not possible, is that google 'accidentally' slurped up people's data whilst driving around taking pictures for streetview. I feel sure that's not a silly mistake they're likely to repeat with Google Glass and it's WiFi, Bluetooth (and hence mobile-phone) connections. Oh no, no, no, they wouldn't do that! Nor with Android. Self-driving cars offer numerous possibilities. Climb in. Take me to my aunt Morticia's please Ah yes, she lives in the big dark house on the hill; make yourself comfortable, sir, and we'll be there shortly. You turn on the in-drive TV with both subliminal and blindingly obvious flashing adverts. The car drives off. Ten minutes later, the car announces You have arrived at your destination, sir. and the doors open to reveal that you're outside the very shop where they sell those advertised products. The car helpfully tells you that Your aunt Morticia has been looking for one of those! A shop assistant helpfully puts a 13.5GHz Intel i9 Ultra-Gamer-Xpletive-XIII+ in the car and gives you the receipt already charged to your contactless credit card. OK, that's supposed to be funny. I think Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:38:58 +0100 Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote: Hello Gordon, OK, that's supposed to be funny. I think :-) And with all that you wrote slowly coming true, a truly Orwellian future can't be that far off. :-( -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It couldn't adapt so it couldn't survive The Great British Mistake - The Adverts signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
On Friday 13 Sep 2013 14:30:11 Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:36:04 +0100 Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote: Hello Gordon, I've been _very_ confident for a long time now that Google scans and uses gmail content. They always have. They've never hidden that fact. That's why, like you, I prefer to avoid them. Technically, most ISPs do, even if it's just scanning for SPAM. If it's simply deciding what advert to show to you, that's one thing, and not something I'd consider an invasion of privacy. YMMV. If it's to forward juicy looking conversations to humans so they can have a laugh about your private life, that's something completely different. What I can't believe, because it's simply not possible, is that google 'accidentally' slurped up people's data whilst driving around taking pictures for streetview. What's Google? 'Google' the company doesn't do anything, because it's just a legal entity. The directors of Google make decisions and tell their employees to do things. Those employees do things, but not always in the way expected by those who originally had the idea. Sometimes code put into software by developers is meant to be removed or disabled for production, and sometimes it isn't either by lazyness, incompetence or someone making an ad hoc decision not to. It's perfectly possible for 'Google' to do something that 'Google' hadn't meant to do (whether it was accidental or not, I have no idea, but it *is* possible for it to have been). -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/profiles/samuel.penn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Stuff for sale
I am having a clear out and have the following items for sale. 19 inch Acer P193w TFT widescreen £35 Excellent condition perfect working order. Western Digital 640GB SATA Hard Disk, 16MB Cache. £25 Perfect working condition will need to be formatted has Red Hat Enterprise installed. ( used as Dev box) Upgraded to 2 terabyte and have no longer require. Interested? Please contact me Sent from my iPhone -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
