Re: [Hardhats-members] Volume Sets

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Self
GT.M is MUMPS. The biggest difference from other MUMPS in my view is that it 
attempts to
fit in more natively with its host operating system and doesn't try to pretend 
that it is
a complete programming environment of itself, as MUMPS generally was 20-30 
years ago.

After configuration, you could use GT.M almost exclusively in a familiar
MUMPS-is-everything kind of mode, but why would you? That would ignore most of 
the power
and capabilities of a modern operating system like Linux - and all of the 
wonderful tools
developed for and in other languages.


Greg Kreis wrote:
>Thanks for the run down.  I am creating the acculturation CD that
>bhaskar recommended.  Sounds like quite a different culture to adopt.
>Must have been fun to map the Kernel to this platform  ;-) ;-)
>
>Jim Self wrote:
>
>>Greg Kreis wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I can understand that the Volume concept is handled by the idea of a
>>>path in Linux, right?]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>It's been more than 20 years since I worked on DSM, so their concept of UCI 
>>(User Class
>>Identifier) and volume sets is not very fresh in my mind. Still, I am pretty 
>>sure the
>>answer is no.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hmm... Are the globals just Linux files?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No, again. Globals are stored in special data files with .dat extention. The 
>>default
>>installations put all globals into a single mumps.dat file but in production 
>>systems you
>>would generally break out large globals into separate files, like 
>>patients.dat and
>>mail.dat, or groups several related medium sized globals together in one 
>>file. The
>>different .dat files can have different ownership and permissions settings 
>>and different
>>settings for journalling as well so some could be configured read only for 
>>most users or
>>optimized for use as temporary scratch space, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>>If so,
>>>wouldn't the directory take the place of the UCI?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>A globals directory is actually a special file (mumps.gld, by default) that 
>>describes a
>>set of .dat files and how globals will be mapped to them.
>>
>>
>>
>>>But I guess the next
>>>question is how is this exposed inside GT.M?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The current global directory is held in the variable $zgbldir and the current 
>>routine
>>mapping is in $zroutines. You can NEW these variables and SET them to 
>>different values to
>>temporarily reference a different mapping of globals and/or routines. They 
>>are initialized
>>with the environment variables gtmgbldir and gtmroutines.
>>
>>I think I recall that you can also reference a global directory explicitly 
>>via extended
>>global syntax (i.e. ^[gbldir]gloname), but I haven't had occasion to use that 
>>in a very
>>long time.

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[Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Usha



Hi
 
While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, 
I came across VistA Web, which can be used by providers to access their 
patient's record from the Internet. 
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is 
required.  Where I can get it from?
 
Usha
 


[Hardhats-members] Re: Linux question: Setting up DVD for backup

2005-03-24 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Title: Re: Linux question: Setting up DVD for backup






Mark very reasonably threw up all over my posting of the use of "xhost +".  Thank you, because I deserved it, especially for not including a security admonition.

When I use xhost +, it is always on a computer that is behind at least two firewalls, one of which is running on the local computer, and both of which block all ports except a handful.  X is always blocked - I never permit direct remote X, and always require ssh with X forwarding for remote X access.

The analogy is like a War Room - there are all kinds of barriers to getting in, but once inside, people can converse freely.

So, to anyone who finds k3b runs only as root - please set file permissions so that you don't need to.  And don't follow my example of using xhost + unless you know you are in a well-secured environment.

-- Bhaskar





[Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread Joseph Puthooran
At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
could promote its relevance to these organizations.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It seems I heard some scuttlebutt a while back that some of the Hardhats were 
either working on  a project or wanting to work on a project in Africa that 
would use VistA to serve as a repository for data collected on the treatment 
and test results of AIDS patients being taken care of in outlying areas where 
there were little resouces.  Perhaps someone can enlighten us about that. .

On Thursday 24 March 2005 08:41 am, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
> At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
> of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
> from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
> Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
> useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
> could promote its relevance to these organizations.
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[Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.

>From my less technical vantage point I sense that the "root driver" for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major "objections" that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.

Joseph

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, "Ed de Moel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
> a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
> that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
> 
> To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
> the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
> 
> Here's what this message is about:
> 
> Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
> current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
> a suggestion to "revive" the committee.
> 
> The current status of the committee is:
>  - it still exists
>  - the most recent meeting was in September 1999
>(during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
>  - the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
>of any techinical issues was in September 1998
>  - depending on the criteria to determine membership,
>current membership is any number of institutions
>(not individuals) between 6 and 23.
> 
> My personal opinion about the MDC is:
>  - The committee "as we know it" has served its purpose
>and currently has no purpose anymore.
>  - If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
>that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
>to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
>its own mission and its own bylaws.
>  - Converting the MDC into a new organization without
>violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
>impossible.
> 
> Further background:
> 
> There are many models on which a Standards Developing
> Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
> of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models used by IEEE, w3c
> and DICOM. However, there is one aspect that is common to all
> standards and models of operation: there is a group of
> implementors who are committed (either voluntarily as in ANSI and
> ISO, or by contract as in DICOM and some subgroups of IEEE) to
> implement any changes to the standard within a certain amount of
> time after the publication of a new standard.
> 
> The MDC published its last official standard in 1995. This
> standard has been implemented fully in only one implementation
> (DSM), which is currently no longer supported. All
> implementations that are currently on the market did not
> implement one or more details from this standard. Since the
> commercial success of all of these implementations is sufficient
> for the needs of their users and implementors, there are are not
> even plans to implement the remaining details.
> 
> As fas as the other MUMPS related standards is concerned
> (OMI, GKS Binding, X-Window binding, MWAPI): OMI is still
> supported by some vendors, but I am not aware that any of the
> other standards is still actively supported by any vendor.
> 
> After the 1995 MDC standard became official, well over 100
> modifications to that standard were approved by the MDC, and
> almost none of these have been implemented by any implementor.
> Clearly, there is no group of implementors who are committed to
> implementing any of the MDC's standards, and therefore it is my
> opinion that the MDC as a committee has outlived its usefulness
> and ought to be formally dissolved.
> 
> Note that, whether or not an MDC exists, the ISO standards will
> continue to exist, until ISO votes them out of existence. In the
> fall of 2005, ISO will review the status of the MDC documents,
> and, as far as I know, the recommendations from the various
> member countries are to re-affirm the documents (Language Standard,
> OMI and MWAPI) with the intent to stabilize them, in other words,
> it looks like ISO will retain the standards for the forseeable
> future. Also, as long as these documents are ISO standards,
> the copyrights for the documents will remain at ISO.
> 
> Of course, if the MDC decides to dissolve itself, appropriate
> notice should be given to ISO, and a decision should be made
> as to who would become (or remain) responsible for the maintance
> the new documents. The current MDC liaison and project editor
> is Kate Schell.
> 
> Aside note: the current document editor for the draft MDC Standards
> is Ed de Moel.
> 
> 
> Respectfully submitted,
> Ed de Moel
> Secretary of the MDC.
> 
> -- 
> ***

Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Good points Joseph!
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.
From my less technical vantage point I sense that the "root driver" for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major "objections" that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.
Joseph
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, "Ed de Moel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
 

I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
Here's what this message is about:
Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
a suggestion to "revive" the committee.
The current status of the committee is:
- it still exists
- the most recent meeting was in September 1999
  (during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
- the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
  of any techinical issues was in September 1998
- depending on the criteria to determine membership,
  current membership is any number of institutions
  (not individuals) between 6 and 23.
My personal opinion about the MDC is:
- The committee "as we know it" has served its purpose
  and currently has no purpose anymore.
- If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
  that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
  to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
  its own mission and its own bylaws.
- Converting the MDC into a new organization without
  violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
  impossible.
Further background:
There are many models on which a Standards Developing
Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models used by IEEE, w3c
and DICOM. However, there is one aspect that is common to all
standards and models of operation: there is a group of
implementors who are committed (either voluntarily as in ANSI and
ISO, or by contract as in DICOM and some subgroups of IEEE) to
implement any changes to the standard within a certain amount of
time after the publication of a new standard.
The MDC published its last official standard in 1995. This
standard has been implemented fully in only one implementation
(DSM), which is currently no longer supported. All
implementations that are currently on the market did not
implement one or more details from this standard. Since the
commercial success of all of these implementations is sufficient
for the needs of their users and implementors, there are are not
even plans to implement the remaining details.
As fas as the other MUMPS related standards is concerned
(OMI, GKS Binding, X-Window binding, MWAPI): OMI is still
supported by some vendors, but I am not aware that any of the
other standards is still actively supported by any vendor.
After the 1995 MDC standard became official, well over 100
modifications to that standard were approved by the MDC, and
almost none of these have been implemented by any implementor.
Clearly, there is no group of implementors who are committed to
implementing any of the MDC's standards, and therefore it is my
opinion that the MDC as a committee has outlived its usefulness
and ought to be formally dissolved.
Note that, whether or not an MDC exists, the ISO standards will
continue to exist, until ISO votes them out of existence. In the
fall of 2005, ISO will review the status of the MDC documents,
and, as far as I know, the recommendations from the various
member countries are to re-affirm the documents (Language Standard,
OMI and MWAPI) with the intent to stabilize them, in other words,
it looks like ISO will retain the standards for the forseeable
future. Also, as long as these documents are ISO standards,
the copyrights for the documents will remain at ISO.
Of course, if the MDC decides to dissolve itself, appropriate
notice should be given to ISO, and a decision should be made
as to who would become (or remain) responsible for the maintance
the new documents. The current MDC liaison and project editor
is Kate Schell.
Aside note: the current document editor for the draft MDC Standards
is Ed de Moel.
Respectfully submitted,
Ed de Moel
Secretary of the MDC.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.  

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> providers to access their patient's record from the
> Internet. 
> To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> required.  Where I can get it from?
> 
> Usha
> 
> 




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Re: [Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread A. Forrey
The key to utilization of VistA in non-VA environemnts is first to 
understand the conceptual framework of the target environment and what is 
needed for cognitive support of the practitioners who will be using a 
reconfigured VistA. We hardhats get to focused on the technologic issues. 
The concepts of John Zachman on the Framework for Information architecture 
are a general resource. We have passed on to Nancy documents that will 
help provide that framework and help guide what will be needed in your 
target environemnt and, hopefully, she will be able to bring them to the 
meeting. In short they realte to "Enterprise View, Life Cycle Principles". 
These are concepts that can be actively applied to the MUMPS datamangement 
environment and the underlying technologic platfiorms; they are an 
integral part of the MDC and are parts that were just beginning to be 
addressed when the MDC had its last meetings. Rick Marshall clearly 
understands these issues and what the new MDC must do beyond the aspects 
that Ed Demoel commented on yesterday but which will illuminate how the 
MUMPS standards are a step beyond what practices are prevalent world wide 
that need application of the Zachman Framework. That should help you seek 
out in Boston key individuals that should help you get started and tie you 
into a powerful network of individuals who can help your Indian 
participants adapt VistA to the emerging international framework for 
healthcare information architectures. The MUMPS community has had (and 
still does) the collaborative synergistic attitude that Octo Barnett 
seeded 45 years ago. If anything, that is the key ingredient to the 
application of information science and technology to healthacre and you 
will be at the Center of it All for the few days you will be in Boston. 
Capture all the seeds so you can followup subsequently to answer your 
question.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
could promote its relevance to these organizations.
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[Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  <-** Notice dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)


re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.

   tjh

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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  <-** Notice dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread A. Forrey
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Greg Kreis wrote:
Good points Joseph!
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.
Joseph:
You are right in that the issue of the MDC must exist in a broader context 
that already exists but we must get the MUMPS community actively 
discussing MUMPS' role in thsi context. Think first of ISO TC-215 on 
Health INformatics, then think next of the ANSI Health Informatics 
Standards Board in the US and the other worldwide national standards 
bodies. The MUMPS language as Ed DeMoel commented yesterday exists in both 
of these contexts. I disagree with him that the MDC is irrelevant; for the 
end beneficiary it is a key building block in an ediface that brings 
benefits to healthcare professional disciplines by being the technologic 
vehicle by which the information and knowledge of recent science and 
technology is brought to the point of application by an idividual 
practitoner to an individual patient. MUMPS does not exist in a vaccum and 
it did not originate in Boston in a vacuum; nor did it progress to yield 
VistA in avacuum. It is a key component of "Enterprise View, Life Cycle 
Principles"; thus the importance of the MDC needs to be seen in terms of 
its long term and current context role. If you can understand the 
activities of ONCHIT here in the US and similar activities in UK, the CEN 
TC-251 and the activities in India, then cocnetrate on the comments of 
Greg Kries about the different context of thinking about MUMPS compared to 
20 yrs ago. Nevertheless, the MUMPS community was 20 yrs ago thinking of 
the kind of environment in which we now exist and its associated 
challenges; we just need to rise to that vision and articulate exactly 
the strategic plan  you are demanding.

I can tell you that healthcare has passed in the 1990s through the 
"Decade of Denial" into the current "Decade of Refusal" to do just that 
and, like the bunch of bums setting at the sewer outfall "Waiting For 
Godot" to save them.. It will suffer the same fate until it addresses that 
it will be saved when it gets off its butt and does the needed work in the 
smae way the MUMPS proceeded in the 1960s when Octo got moving. Th MUMPS 
community has that heritage and it can energize the implementors in the 
way that Ed DeMOel noted must be done, as well as all the rest of the 
community whose contribution is everybit as essential. The key players are 
in Boston. JOhn Glaser was a key officer onthe MTA and has written the 
ONLY book on Stratgeic Planning for IT in Healthcare. You need to, however 
needed, get him to a key forum to speak on this subject during this "Week 
in Boston". And get some of the press folks there to propagate the 
message. Death to "MUMPS is Dead"!. Let me know how to help.

From my less technical vantage point I sense that the "root driver" for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major "objections" that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.
Joseph
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, "Ed de Moel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
Here's what this message is about:
Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
a suggestion to "revive" the committee.
The current status of the committee is:
- it still exists
- the most recent meeting was in September 1999
  (during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
- the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
  of any techinical issues was in September 1998
- depending on the criteria to determine membership,
  current membership is any number of institutions
  (not individuals) between 6 and 23.
My personal opinion about the MDC is:
- The committee "as we know it" has served its purpose
  and currently has no purpose anymore.
- If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
  that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
  to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
  its own mission and its own bylaws.
- Converting the MDC into a new organization without
  violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
  impossible.
Further background:
There are many models on which a Standards Developing
Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models u

RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole meaning
of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
DIS("SCR") and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU or
are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
from the whole line.

   tjh 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:26 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
(DIS1.m)



re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.

   tjh

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  <-** Notice dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Looks like you have two spaces after the IF command. 

I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.
So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.
I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
 -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
 -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

 -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
 <-** Notice dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
   X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?
Thanks, Kevin
p.s. Here is the variable table:
GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"

I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
Kevin
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[Hardhats-members] (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Dan
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"Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Woodhouse
An unadorned IF statement does have the effect of setting $T and is
perfectly legal. Not knowing what this code ios meant to accomplish, I
can't say whether or not that is the intended effect.


>I 0

>I  W !,"HELLO"

>

--- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
> resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole
> meaning
> of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
> DIS("SCR") and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU
> or
> are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
> something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
> from the whole line.
> 
>tjh 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:26 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
> (DIS1.m)
> 
> 
> 
> re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
> X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
> 
> There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.
> 
>tjh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
> To: Hardhats Sourceforge
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
> (DIS1.m)
> 
> I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
> up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
> but it would be better if I could learn the source of
> the error.
> 
> So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
> tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
> getting.
> 
> I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
> suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
> 
> 
> OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
> 
>   -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
>   -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
>   -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
> kst  PHYSICIAN
> 
>   -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
> 
> IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
> 
> STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
> 
> SORT BY: NUMBER//
> START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
> FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
> THEN PRINT FIELD:
> Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
> DEVICE: home  TELNET
>   <-** Notice dropout
> GTM>w $ECODE
> ,Z150372458,
> GTM>w $ZSTATUS
> 150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
> not found
> GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
> X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
> 
> GTM>W DIS(0)
> X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
> GTM>W DIS("SCR")
> S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
> GTM>
> 
> What would be causing the dropout?
> 
> Thanks, Kevin
> 
> p.s. Here is the variable table:
> 
> GTM>zwrite
> %="SEARCH"
> A=1
> C=","
> D0=3
> DC=","
> DCC="^TIU(8925,"
> DD=1
> DE=0
> DHT=0
> DI=0
> DIJ=0
> DILCT=0
> DIO=0
> DIO("SCR")=1
> DIOSL=24
> DIPCRIT=0
> DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
> $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
> DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
> TIUFPRIV=1"
> DIS0=1
> DISEARCH=1
> DISTP=0
> DISUPNO=0
> DISYS=19
> DIWL=0
> DJ=0
> DJK=1
> DN=1
> DP=8925
> DQI=4
> DT=3050324
> DTIME=3600
> DUZ=73
> DUZ(0)="@"
> DUZ(1)=""
> DUZ(2)=69
> DUZ("AG")="O"
> DUZ("AUTO")=1
> DUZ("BUF")=1
> DUZ("LANG")=1
> DX=2
> DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
> DXS="Y"
> DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
> DN=0,D0=-1"
> DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
> I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
> IO="/dev/pts/2"
> IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
> IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
> IO("ERROR")=""
> IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
> IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
> IOBS="$C(8)"
> IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
> IOHG=""
> IOM=80
> ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
> IOPAR=""
> IOS=38
> IOSL=24
> IOST="C-VT100"
> IOST(0)=9
> IOT="VTRM"
> IOUPAR=""
> IOX=0
> IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
> IOY=0
> J(0)=8925
> L=1
> P=""
> U="^"
> X=1
> XMDUZ=73
> XQCH="SEAR"
> XQDIC=1337
> XQJMP=0
> XQPSM="P10025"
> XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
> Filename^^M^n^1^^"
> XQT="A"
> XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
> XQVOL="VOL"
> XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
> XQY=1330
> XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
>  
> I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
> be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Right.  I answered too soon as well..  ;-)
The question is how did the DIS(0) code get generated that way...  The 
mod George sent is in the routine that generates DIS array members, so 
we are in the right neck of the woods...  ;-)  Now, Kevin, how many 
patches are in the routine that you modified and what is the last 
number?  (See the second line of the routine.)  The one that Jim worked 
on was at 113.

Holloway, Thomas (EDS) wrote:
Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole meaning
of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
DIS("SCR") and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU or
are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
from the whole line.
  tjh 

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(DIS1.m)

re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.
  tjh
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.
So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.
I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
 -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
 -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

 -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
 <-** Notice dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
   X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?
Thanks, Kevin
p.s. Here is the variable table:
GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"

I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
Kevin
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

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Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.  

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> providers to access their patient's record from the
> Internet. 
> To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> required.  Where I can get it from?
> 
> Usha
> 
> 




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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo (sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> Usha,
>
> This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
> understanding is that it is not yet
> available/ready/completed.
>
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> > came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> > providers to access their patient's record from the
> > Internet.
> > To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> > required.  Where I can get it from?
> >
> > Usha
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> Usha,
>
> This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
> understanding is that it is not yet
> available/ready/completed.
>
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> > came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> > providers to access their patient's record from the
> > Internet.
> > To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> > required.  Where I can get it from?
> >
> > Usha
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
VistAWeb has been formally released.  I'll be posting the source shortly.

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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> Usha,
>
> This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
> understanding is that it is not yet
> available/ready/completed.
>
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> > came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> > providers to access their patient's record from the
> > Internet.
> > To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> > required.  Where I can get it from?
> >
> > Usha
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> Usha,
>
> This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
> understanding is that it is not yet
> available/ready/completed.
>
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
> > came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> > providers to access their patient's record from the
> > Internet.
> > To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> > required.  Where I can get it from?
> >
> > Usha
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[Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Crawford Rainwater
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
> 
> 
> "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, 
> has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours, 
> according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji 
> Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC. "  (more)
> 



Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!

Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
avenues recently...

EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...

Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...

EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)


FWIW.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
Agreed, FUD pure and simple.  Does this stuff belong on the Hard Hat's list?

On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:42, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
> results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!
>
> Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
> avenues recently...
> EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
> Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
> EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis




This sounds like it might be using CCOW.  Is that the case?

Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote:

  OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
  
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

Usha
  

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[Hardhats-members] Feedback on manual Vista FOIA GOLD install document.

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
I am going to place this in the Wiki eventually, I will add more basic command 
detail and other details later after I go back through my notes and .history 
file.  Feedback appreciated.

Manual Installation of Vista FOIA GOLD source on Linux.

1. Create a vista user
2. Edit vista users environment
3. Obtain Vista FOIA GOLD archive
4. Place Vista archive contents onto filesystem
5. Begin Configuration of Vista
--
1.  Create a vista user

useradd vista
or
adduser vista

2.  Edit vista user's environment - We have to add the paths to Vista's 
routines and gtm.  Here is an example of a .bash_profile file for the vista 
user.  It assumes you are installing Vista into the user vista's home 
directory /home/vista and your are installing gtm into /usr/local/gtm.

You can either add the portions to your vista user's existing .bash_profile or 
replace it with this example
##  BEGIN 
# .bash_profile

# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
. ~/.bashrc
fi

# User specific environment and startup programs

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

unset USERNAME

## OpenVistA specific environment ##
export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/home/vista/log

export gtmgbldir=/home/vista/g/mumps.gld
export gtm_vista=/home/vista/
export vista_home=/home/vista
export gtmroutines="$vista_home/o($vista_home/r) $gtm_dist"

alias GTM="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
alias gtm="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
alias mupip="$gtm_dist/mupip"
alias gde="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE"
alias lke="$gtm_dist/lke"
alias dse="$gtm_dist/dse"
alias rundown="$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \"*\""

export PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
#  END 

3.  Obtain and unpack the Vista FOIA GOLD archive from sourceforge.

4.  Place Vista routines and gtm on the filesystem.

After you unarchive the Vista archive referenced above you will have two 
directories, gtm and OpenVistA.  First we need to make sure the ownership of 
all files in gtm and OpenVistA are owned by their proper users.

From the directory in which you UNarchived the files run;

chown -R root.root gtm
then change the file and dir ownership on the Vista routines to the vista 
user.
chown -R vista.vista OpenVistA

Now, move the files to their proper locations on the filesytem

mv gtm /usr/local/

Change your current working directory into the OpenVista directory and copy 
all the Vista files to the vista user's home dir /home/vista.

cd OpenVistA

mv * /home/vista/ 

5.  Begin Configuration of Vista

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[Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer

2005-03-24 Thread chuck5566
I have nothing to do with this company, other than being a customer.  I 
just thought this might interest somebody.

Check out: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/vb6/
It's an offer for the Standard version of their Visual Basic-like 
development software.  It's free 'til the end of this month.

They have Windows and OS X versions of their software, and the free 
version is for Windows.  THE REASON I bring this to your attention is 
that the Professional version lets you compile to a Linux binary, from 
either Windows or OS X.

Just a thought.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Well, I wasn't going to post this link, but since it is similar, I changed my 
mind.
*
Linux riskier than Windows?

Companies face greater risks if they run their Web
sites on Linux rather than Windows, a Microsoft-funded
study has concluded.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5630822.html?tag=nl.e589

On Thursday 24 March 2005 01:42 pm, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
> >
> >
> > "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
> > has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
> > according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS,
> > Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC. "  (more)
>
> 
>
> Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
> results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!
>
> Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
> avenues recently...
>
> EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
>
> Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
>
> EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
> 
>
> FWIW.
>
> --- Crawford

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO



Sorry, 
I don't know.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Greg 
  KreisSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 AMTo: 
  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: 
  [Hardhats-members] VistA WebThis sounds like it might be 
  using CCOW.  Is that the case?Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote: 
  OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

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Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
THANK YOU!  

On Thursday 24 March 2005 02:40 pm, chuck5566 wrote:
> I have nothing to do with this company, other than being a customer.  I
> just thought this might interest somebody.
>
> Check out: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/vb6/
>
> It's an offer for the Standard version of their Visual Basic-like
> development software.  It's free 'til the end of this month.
>
> They have Windows and OS X versions of their software, and the free
> version is for Windows.  THE REASON I bring this to your attention is
> that the Professional version lets you compile to a Linux binary, from
> either Windows or OS X.
>
> Just a thought.
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Sowinski, Richard J.



Point 
of correction.
 
VistaWeb was not developed by Cairo.
 
The 
product was developed at Ann Arbor VA, by a single developer, who is not a 
member of the Cairo team.
 
He has 
worked on the product, for a long time.
 
Richard J Sowinski
Director of Cairo, and Chief of Application 
Development
Roudebush VAMC, Indianapolis Indiana

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  Gilbert, Francis S. WCOSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:50 
  PMTo: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'Subject: 
  RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
  Sorry, I don't know.
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
Greg KreisSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 
AMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: 
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA WebThis sounds like it 
might be using CCOW.  Is that the case?Gilbert, Francis S. WCO 
wrote: 
OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
  It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

Usha
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, that seems obvious enough not that you point it
out... :-)

Now I have to see where that erroneous line comes
from... I can't find that line in DIS1.m

I'll have to wait until I'm at my office and I can use
the graphic 'find' function that comes with KDE.  I
can't ever seem to get to grep to work for me to work
as a find.

Thanks for finding that for me.

Kevin

--- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
> X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
> 
> There should only be one space between the IF and
> the $PIECE.
> 
>tjh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
> To: Hardhats Sourceforge
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging
> Fileman Search (DIS1.m)
> 
> I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman
> put
> up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
> but it would be better if I could learn the source
> of
> the error.
> 
> So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
> tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
> getting.
> 
> I wonder if someone could look at this screen log
> and
> suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
> 
> 
> OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
> 
>   -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
>   -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
>   -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
> kst  PHYSICIAN
> 
>   -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
> 
> IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN
> S)
> 
> STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
> 
> SORT BY: NUMBER//
> START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
> FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
> THEN PRINT FIELD:
> Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
> DEVICE: home  TELNET
>   <-** Notice
> dropout
> GTM>w $ECODE
> ,Z150372458,
> GTM>w $ZSTATUS
> 150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected
> but
> not found
> GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
> X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
> 
> GTM>W DIS(0)
> X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
> GTM>W DIS("SCR")
> S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
> GTM>
> 
> What would be causing the dropout?
> 
> Thanks, Kevin
> 
> p.s. Here is the variable table:
> 
> GTM>zwrite
> %="SEARCH"
> A=1
> C=","
> D0=3
> DC=","
> DCC="^TIU(8925,"
> DD=1
> DE=0
> DHT=0
> DI=0
> DIJ=0
> DILCT=0
> DIO=0
> DIO("SCR")=1
> DIOSL=24
> DIPCRIT=0
> DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
> $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
> DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
> TIUFPRIV=1"
> DIS0=1
> DISEARCH=1
> DISTP=0
> DISUPNO=0
> DISYS=19
> DIWL=0
> DJ=0
> DJK=1
> DN=1
> DP=8925
> DQI=4
> DT=3050324
> DTIME=3600
> DUZ=73
> DUZ(0)="@"
> DUZ(1)=""
> DUZ(2)=69
> DUZ("AG")="O"
> DUZ("AUTO")=1
> DUZ("BUF")=1
> DUZ("LANG")=1
> DX=2
> DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
> DXS="Y"
> DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
> DN=0,D0=-1"
> DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
> I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
> IO="/dev/pts/2"
> IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
> IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
> IO("ERROR")=""
> IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
> IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
> IOBS="$C(8)"
> IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
> IOHG=""
> IOM=80
> ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
> IOPAR=""
> IOS=38
> IOSL=24
> IOST="C-VT100"
> IOST(0)=9
> IOT="VTRM"
> IOUPAR=""
> IOX=0
> IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
> IOY=0
> J(0)=8925
> L=1
> P=""
> U="^"
> X=1
> XMDUZ=73
> XQCH="SEAR"
> XQDIC=1337
> XQJMP=0
> XQPSM="P10025"
> XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
> Filename^^M^n^1^^"
> XQT="A"
> XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
> XQVOL="VOL"
> XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
> XQY=1330
> XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File
> Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
>  
> I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it
> would
> be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Hey all.  Couple of points

1. Here is the version info:
DIS1;SFISC/GFT-BUILD DIS-ARRAY ;09:04 AM  21 Aug
2002
;;22.0;VA FileMan;**6,77,97,113**;Mar 30, 1999

2. That error has disappeared.  And all I did, as far
as I can remember, was to take out a commented version
of the original line.  And while I would love to
figure out how that caused this bug, I'm not going to
persue it.

3. The search still doesn't seem to work.  Here is a
screen log:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE:   TELNET
TIU DOCUMENT SEARCHMAR
24,2005  15:58PAGE 1
DOCUMENT TYPE





 0 MATCHES FOUND.
 
But the method of using INTERNAL(ENTERED BY) EQUALS 73
does work.  Here is a screen log:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: INTERNAL(ENTERED
BY)
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS: 73

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// INTERNAL(ENTERED BY) EQUALS "73"

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE:   TELNET
TIU DOCUMENT SEARCHMAR
24,2005  16:22PAGE 1
DOCUMENT TYPE


NUMBER: 6453
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6466
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6470
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6488
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6489
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6490
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6492
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6495
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6501
Addendum  



Someone asked for the data dictionary info, with
output transform, on the field ENTERED BY, so here it
is:



  FIELD NAME:   ENTERED BY

  FLD NUMBER:   1302FLD TITLE:
  NODE;PIECE:   13;2   HELP FRAME:

  ACCESS:   RD:DEL:WR:

   DATA TYPE:   Pointer,LAYGO to 'pointed to' file
not allowed
Has output transform

  POINTS TO:NEW PERSON file  -  ^VA(200,

  INPUT TRANSFORM:  Q

  OUTPUT TRANSFORM: S Y(0)=Y S
Y=$S(+$G(TIUINI):$$LOWER^TIULS($P($G(^VA(200,+Y(
   
0),0)),U,2)),1:$P($G(^VA(200,+Y(0),0)),U,2))

  PROMPT MESSAGE:   This is the person who entered the
document into the
computer. 

 OLD-STYLE INDEXES

  INDEX: TC
 Type: REGULAR
 Node: 1S ^TIU(8925,"TC",$E(X,1,30),DA)=""
 Node: 2K ^TIU(8925,"TC",$E(X,1,30),DA)

 Index Desc:
This REGULAR, FileMan type
cross-reference is used for
sorting by the person who entered
the original document.
 Node: DT   2940207

  INDEX: ATC
 Type: MUMPS
 Node: 1I
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U),
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U,5) S
^TIU(8925,"ATC",+X,+$P($G(^
   
TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P(^TIU(8925,+DA,0),U,5),(999-$P($
G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U)),DA)=""   
Node: 2I
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U),
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U,5) K
^TIU(8925,"ATC",+X,+$P($G(^
   
TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P(^TIU(8925,+DA,0),U,5),(999-$P($
G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U)),DA)

 Index Desc:This MUMPS-type, multi-field
cross-reference is used for
searching by entry person,
document type, status, and date
range.
 Node: DT   2940323

  INDEX: ACLAU103
 Type: MUMPS
 Node: 1D SACLAU1^TIUDD0(1302,X)
 Node: 2D KACLAU1^TIUDD01(1302,X)

 Index Desc:This multi-field, MUMPS-type
cross-reference on CLASS,
AUTHOR (or ENTERED BY), PATIENT,
INVERSE REFERENCE
DATE/TIME, and RECORD # is
designed to facilitate rapid
access to the current users
unsigned notes about a patient. 
   Node: DT   2970617
 

Thanks for your help everyone.

Kevin



--- Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Right.  I answered too soon as well..  ;-)
> 
> The question is how did the DIS(0) code get
> generated that way...  The 
> mod George sent is in the routine that generates DIS
> array members, so 
> we are in the right neck of the woods...  ;-)  Now,
> Kevin, how m

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
What does it do?

Kevin

--- "Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee,
> and I have it up and
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
> 
> 
> Usha,
> 
> This question has been asked may times, many ways. 
> My
> understanding is that it is not yet
> available/ready/completed.  
> 
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules,
> I
> > came across VistA Web, which can be used by
> > providers to access their patient's record from
> the
> > Internet. 
> > To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
> > required.  Where I can get it from?
> > 
> > Usha
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated...

:-)

Kevin

--- Crawford Rainwater
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >
>
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
> > 
> > 
> > "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it
> is not secure enough, 
> > has scalability problems and could fork into many
> different flavours, 
> > according to the Agility Alliance, which includes
> IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji 
> > Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC. " 
> (more)
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study
> that is finding its
> results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly
> biased!?!
> 
> Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving
> towards Open Source
> avenues recently...
> 
> EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
> 
> Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
> 
> EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I
> think. ;-)
> 
> 
> FWIW.
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Feedback on manual Vista FOIA GOLD install document.

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Mark,

Excellent. If you are going to be in Boston, I'd like
to work with you to ease the initial setup of Vista. 
I have a vision of making it much easier than it is
now.  I worked on a configuration scripting process
that I'd like to show you.

Kevin

--- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am going to place this in the Wiki eventually, I
> will add more basic command 
> detail and other details later after I go back
> through my notes and .history 
> file.  Feedback appreciated.
> 
> Manual Installation of Vista FOIA GOLD source on
> Linux.
> 
> 1. Create a vista user
> 2. Edit vista users environment
> 3. Obtain Vista FOIA GOLD archive
> 4. Place Vista archive contents onto filesystem
> 5. Begin Configuration of Vista
> --
> 1.  Create a vista user
> 
> useradd vista
> or
> adduser vista
> 
> 2.  Edit vista user's environment - We have to add
> the paths to Vista's 
> routines and gtm.  Here is an example of a
> .bash_profile file for the vista 
> user.  It assumes you are installing Vista into the
> user vista's home 
> directory /home/vista and your are installing gtm
> into /usr/local/gtm.
> 
> You can either add the portions to your vista user's
> existing .bash_profile or 
> replace it with this example
> ##  BEGIN 
> # .bash_profile
> 
> # Get the aliases and functions
> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
> . ~/.bashrc
> fi
> 
> # User specific environment and startup programs
> 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
> 
> unset USERNAME
> 
> ## OpenVistA specific environment ##
> export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> export gtm_log=/home/vista/log
> 
> export gtmgbldir=/home/vista/g/mumps.gld
> export gtm_vista=/home/vista/
> export vista_home=/home/vista
> export gtmroutines="$vista_home/o($vista_home/r)
> $gtm_dist"
> 
> alias GTM="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
> alias gtm="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"
> alias mupip="$gtm_dist/mupip"
> alias gde="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE"
> alias lke="$gtm_dist/lke"
> alias dse="$gtm_dist/dse"
> alias rundown="$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \"*\""
> 
> export PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
> #  END 
> 
> 3.  Obtain and unpack the Vista FOIA GOLD archive
> from sourceforge.
> 
> 4.  Place Vista routines and gtm on the filesystem.
> 
> After you unarchive the Vista archive referenced
> above you will have two 
> directories, gtm and OpenVistA.  First we need to
> make sure the ownership of 
> all files in gtm and OpenVistA are owned by their
> proper users.
> 
> From the directory in which you UNarchived the files
> run;
> 
> chown -R root.root gtm
> then change the file and dir ownership on the Vista
> routines to the vista 
> user.
> chown -R vista.vista OpenVistA
> 
> Now, move the files to their proper locations on the
> filesytem
> 
> mv gtm /usr/local/
> 
> Change your current working directory into the
> OpenVista directory and copy 
> all the Vista files to the vista user's home dir
> /home/vista.
> 
> cd OpenVistA
> 
> mv * /home/vista/ 
> 
> 5.  Begin Configuration of Vista
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Do you think VistA Web the same thing as the supposed browser based 
replacement for CPRS that I was trying to find out about? That is what I was 
trying to chase down and gave up as it was apparently not ready for a FOIA 
request wherever or whatever it was.  That was about 6-9 months or so ago I 
think. 

To this "single developer", hats off to you and my apologies for spreading the 
false rumor!


On Thursday 24 March 2005 04:06 pm, Sowinski, Richard J. wrote:
> Point of correction.
>
> VistaWeb was not developed by Cairo.
>
> The product was developed at Ann Arbor VA, by a single developer, who is
> not a member of the Cairo team.
>
> He has worked on the product, for a long time.
>
> Richard J Sowinski
> Director of Cairo, and Chief of Application Development
> Roudebush VAMC, Indianapolis Indiana
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gilbert,
> Francis S. WCO
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:50 PM
> To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> Sorry, I don't know.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg
> Kreis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
> This sounds like it might be using CCOW.  Is that the case?
>
> Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote:
>
> OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
>
> from the welcome screen:
>
>
>
> "VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
>
> VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
>
> use the Tools Menu option again.
>
>
>
> Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA
> applications.
>
> If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
>
> selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
>
> is displayed as a patient safety measure.
>
>
>
> This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
>
> national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
>
> available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
>
> may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or
> complaints
>
> are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]On Behalf Of
>
> Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
>
> To: ' hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>  '
>
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
>
>
>
> VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
>
> VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
>
> office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
>
> mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never
> knows.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]On Behalf Of Nancy
>
> Anthracite
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
>
> To:  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
>
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
>
>
>
> What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
>
> (sp?)
>
> folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is
>
> deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.
>
>
>
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
>
>
>
> It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
>
> running on my CPRS toolbar.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ]On Behalf Of Kevin
>
> Toppenberg
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
>
> To:  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
>
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
>
>
>
>
>
> Usha,
>
>
>
> This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
>
> understanding is that it is not yet
>
> available/ready/completed.
>
>
>
> If you find otherwise, please post here!
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> --- Usha    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
>
> came across VistA Web, which can be used by
>
> providers to access their patient's record from the
>
> Internet.
>
> To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
>
> required.  Where I can get it from?
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, I just registered, got a key, downloaded it, and
installed it.  Went very smoothly .

Thanks Chuck!

I haven't seen yet how to make a linux app, but its a
cool this tool.

Kevin


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> Check out:
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> 
> It's an offer for the Standard version of their
> Visual Basic-like 
> development software.  It's free 'til the end of
> this month.
> 
> They have Windows and OS X versions of their
> software, and the free 
> version is for Windows.  THE REASON I bring this to
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista FOIA Install

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Alan,

Have you seen the demo run by the VA?

http://www1.va.gov/CPRSdemo/

Kevin

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Sirs,
I can use some help installing the Vista FOIA
software. I followed the
directions to the best of my ability; but when I try
and run CPRSChart.exe
I get the error: rpc broker version 1.0.25.28 running,
but CPRSChart running version 1.023.15 and must be
updated to run; 
   where is a new version of
the file XWB1_1WS.EXE? with a newer version of
CPRSChart(1.0.25.28) and Client Agent in it?
I did not really need to install such a virgin
installation, I would have
preferred a Demo, or Test installation with test data
in it, to learn from.
 
Sincerely,
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Self
Kevin wrote:
>2. That error has disappeared.  And all I did, as far
>as I can remember, was to take out a commented version
>of the original line.  And while I would love to
>figure out how that caused this bug, I'm not going to
>persue it.

Whoa! It seems very likely that your inserted comment broke the whole block of 
code. Did
you notice that the lines in that area of the source code all used the 
dot-syntax for code
blocks. If your comment did not begin with the same number of leading dots 
("."), it would
prevent the subsequent lines from being executed.

>
>3. The search still doesn't seem to work.

Did you see my note where I gave you a link to a version of ^DIS1 where I 
inserted
George's fix? I tested it and the search did appear to work correctly for me.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Comments below:

--- Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> >2. That error has disappeared.  And all I did, as
> far
> >as I can remember, was to take out a commented
> version
> >of the original line.  And while I would love to
> >figure out how that caused this bug, I'm not going
> to
> >persue it.
> 
> Whoa! It seems very likely that your inserted
> comment broke the whole block of code. Did
> you notice that the lines in that area of the source
> code all used the dot-syntax for code
> blocks. If your comment did not begin with the same
> number of leading dots ("."), it would
> prevent the subsequent lines from being executed.

For the first several days I did not notice it.  I
think is was looking at your online version that
finally helped me notice it.

> >3. The search still doesn't seem to work.
> 
> Did you see my note where I gave you a link to a
> version of ^DIS1 where I inserted
> George's fix? I tested it and the search did appear
> to work correctly for me.

Yes I did see your link.  And my code looks just like
yours now.  Here it the line:

GTM>zprint OUTX^DIS1
OUTX.I $D(^(2)),$P(^(0),U,2)'["D",DV'["=" S
M=0,Y="S Y="_Y_" "_$$OVFL(^(2))_" I
 "_$$XFORM("Y") Q

GTM> 

And, with this code in place, I am still getting the
results posted on my last email.

Did you have problems before putting in the fix?

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis




You won't find that specific line.  It is born of logic, deeply buried
in the DIS routines, that builds the line on the fly and puts it in the
DIS array at run time.  So a simple error in applying George's fix, or
possibly having a starting point different than the one George
modified, could be the culprit and would be very tricky to spot.

You are in one of the most abstract parts of the FM forest -- did you
see the Cheshire cat? ;-)  Thankfully you aren't in the scariest
area...  few have come out of the DICOMP* bogs alive.  ;-)

Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

  Well, that seems obvious enough not that you point it
out... :-)

Now I have to see where that erroneous line comes
from... I can't find that line in DIS1.m

I'll have to wait until I'm at my office and I can use
the graphic 'find' function that comes with KDE.  I
can't ever seem to get to grep to work for me to work
as a find.

Thanks for finding that for me.

Kevin

--- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  

re:  GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and
the $PIECE.

   tjh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  
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On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging
Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman
put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source
of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log
and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN
S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  <-** Notice
dropout
GTM>w $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTM>w $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected
but
not found
GTM>ZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTM>W DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTM>W DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM>

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTM>zwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'>0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File
Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it
would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Self
Kevin wrote:
>> Did you see my note where I gave you a link to a
>> version of ^DIS1 where I inserted
>> George's fix? I tested it and the search did appear
>> to work correctly for me.
>
>Yes I did see your link.  And my code looks just like
>yours now.  Here it the line:
>
>GTM>zprint OUTX^DIS1
>OUTX.I $D(^(2)),$P(^(0),U,2)'["D",DV'["=" S
>M=0,Y="S Y="_Y_" "_$$OVFL(^(2))_" I
> "_$$XFORM("Y") Q


Since the vagaries of email make it difficult to read or trust MUMPS source 
code that you
see embedded in it, it might be helpful to do a diff to compare different 
versions of the
routine, specifically, yours, mine, and the original.

You could use diff to prove that two versions are identical or to see how they 
are
different. For instance, if you were to rename one of them to DIS1x.m, then try
diff DIS1.m DIS1x.m

>GTM>
>
>And, with this code in place, I am still getting the
>results posted on my last email.
>
>Did you have problems before putting in the fix?

Yes. The SemiVivA 0.4 database has one TIU document in it with ENTERED_BY = 
nvd. I
conducted a search on that before the fix where it didn't work and after the 
fix where it
did. I had similar results with a database from the 2.51 OpenVistA distribution.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

2005-03-24 Thread Roy Gaber
Sorry for the delay, just now getting to my mail.  The 3 is the century
indicator.  XAK was a visionary. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:28 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

Oh, I read that the output is Y=YYYMMDD.HHMMSS, and
then that "3" in the result threw me off.  What does
that mean?

Thanks
Kevin



--- Roy Gaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes it does.  Simple set X equal to the external
> date and call %DT the
> internal value will be returned in Y.  Like this;
> 
> >S X="10/1/05" D ^%DT
> >ZW  
> %DT=""
> X="10/1/05"
> Y="3051001"
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> On Behalf Of Kevin
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> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:25 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time
> functions...
> 
> Oops, ^%DT does not do external to internal
> conversion.
> 
> So how do I do that??
> 
> Thanks
> Kevin
> 
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Why are two of the date/time functions in Fileman,
> > and
> > the rest in Kernel?  And why is Kernel missing
> > external-to-internal conversion?
> > 
> > Fileman
> > ---
> > ^%DT  -- external to internal conversion
> > DD^%DT -- Internal to external conversion
> > 
> > Kernel
> > --
> > $$FMTE^XLFDT -- Internal to external conversion
> > (and most other needed functions except
> > external-to-internal conversion)
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[Hardhats-members] Taskman problems

2005-03-24 Thread Thurman Pedigo
It appears I am having problems with Taskman and box volume pair. Anyone
know what I am missing or what else I should check, given the data below?

Thanks,

Thurman


D ^ZTMB

D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y
VISTA^VISTA^W2K3^VISTA:CACHEMAW

Checking Taskman.   Current $H=59983,71375  (Mar 24, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:49:35)
  RUN NODE=VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman
site
parameters.  (VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman site parameters.)
Taskman is late by 5182602560 seconds. not running..
Checking the Status List:
  Node  weight  status  time   $J
 The Status List is empty.

Checking the Schedule List:
 Taskman has 134 tasks scheduled.
 All of them are overdue.  First task is 24513941 seconds late.

Checking the IO Lists:
 There are no tasks waiting for devices.

Checking the Job List:
 There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
 For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks.
 For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks.

Checking the Task List:
  There are no tasks currently running.
 On node VISTA:CACHEMAW there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Run



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Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer - More

2005-03-24 Thread chuck5566
On Mar 24, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:


I haven't seen yet how to make a linux app, but its a
cool this tool.
I'm afraid you have to pay for the Professional version for that 
feature.  I just thought the (free) Standard version was an excellent 
way to find out if it's worth it to anyone, plus I don't think it 
expires.  I like that you can use the exact same codebase to compile to 
Windows, OS X, AND Linux.

I don't mean to sound like an ad - I'm just looking to make life 
easier.  I like that I can write apps for Linux from my Mac.

I came across something else today: http://gambas.sourceforge.net - a 
visual basic IDE to run on Linux.  It's open source, but not as 
polished.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

2005-03-24 Thread Richard G. DAVIS
Roy, do you mean to acknowledge George Timson?  XAK assumed responsibility
for FileMan after George, the principal developer of FileMan, departed from
the DVA.

Regards,

Richard.

> From: "Roy Gaber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:24:11 -0500
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...
> 
> Sorry for the delay, just now getting to my mail.  The 3 is the century
> indicator.  XAK was a visionary.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...
> 
> Oh, I read that the output is Y=YYYMMDD.HHMMSS, and
> then that "3" in the result threw me off.  What does
> that mean?
> 
> Thanks
> Kevin
...

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Taskman problems

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I think I know what your problem is.  Your parameter in the Taskman site 
parameters file for "Mode of Taskman" should be general.  See if that fixes 
it.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:05 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> It appears I am having problems with Taskman and box volume pair. Anyone
> know what I am missing or what else I should check, given the data below?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thurman
>
>
> D ^ZTMB
>
> D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y
> VISTA^VISTA^W2K3^VISTA:CACHEMAW
>
> Checking Taskman.   Current $H=59983,71375  (Mar 24, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:49:35)
>   RUN NODE=VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman
> site
> parameters.  (VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman site parameters.)
> Taskman is late by 5182602560 seconds. not running..
> Checking the Status List:
>   Node  weight  status  time   $J
>  The Status List is empty.
>
> Checking the Schedule List:
>  Taskman has 134 tasks scheduled.
>  All of them are overdue.  First task is 24513941 seconds late.
>
> Checking the IO Lists:
>  There are no tasks waiting for devices.
>
> Checking the Job List:
>  There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
>  For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks.
>  For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks.
>
> Checking the Task List:
>   There are no tasks currently running.
>  On node VISTA:CACHEMAW there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Run
>
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Taskman problems

2005-03-24 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Nancy, That fixed it!

Thanks,

thurman

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:35 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Taskman problems
> 
> I think I know what your problem is.  Your parameter in the Taskman site
> parameters file for "Mode of Taskman" should be general.  See if that
> fixes
> it.
> 
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:05 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> > It appears I am having problems with Taskman and box volume pair. Anyone
> > know what I am missing or what else I should check, given the data
> below?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Thurman
> >
> >
> > D ^ZTMB
> >
> > D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y
> > VISTA^VISTA^W2K3^VISTA:CACHEMAW
> >
> > Checking Taskman.   Current $H=59983,71375  (Mar 24, [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]:49:35)
> >   RUN NODE=VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in
> taskman
> > site
> > parameters.  (VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman site
> parameters.)
> > Taskman is late by 5182602560 seconds. not running..
> > Checking the Status List:
> >   Node  weight  status  time   $J
> >  The Status List is empty.
> >
> > Checking the Schedule List:
> >  Taskman has 134 tasks scheduled.
> >  All of them are overdue.  First task is 24513941 seconds late.
> >
> > Checking the IO Lists:
> >  There are no tasks waiting for devices.
> >
> > Checking the Job List:
> >  There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
> >  For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks.
> >  For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks.
> >
> > Checking the Task List:
> >   There are no tasks currently running.
> >  On node VISTA:CACHEMAW there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status:
> Run
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Bhaskar, KS
At least someone at EDS would appear to believe to the contrary?  See 
http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/eds_instant.aspx

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Nancy Anthracite
Sent:   Thu 3/24/2005 3:59 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, 
unscalable
Well, I wasn't going to post this link, but since it is similar, I changed my 
mind.
*
Linux riskier than Windows?

Companies face greater risks if they run their Web
sites on Linux rather than Windows, a Microsoft-funded
study has concluded.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5630822.html?tag=nl.e589

On Thursday 24 March 2005 01:42 pm, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
> >
> >
> > "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
> > has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
> > according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS,
> > Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC. "  (more)
>
> 
>
> Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
> results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!
>
> Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
> avenues recently...
>
> EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
>
> Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
>
> EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
> 
>
> FWIW.
>
> --- Crawford

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Re: [Hardhats-members] (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
Oooops  Open mouth, insert foot.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39185839,00.htm

EDS: Linux 'strategically important'
24 March 2005

Outsourcing specialist EDS said it was "proactively engineering" Linux into 
its product portfolio, backtracking on previous statements that the 
open-source software was insecure and unscalable.

Resistance is futile

On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:40, Dan wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
>
> "Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
> has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
> according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji
> Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC. "  (more)

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[Hardhats-members] Manual Installation of OpenVista SemiVivA FOIA Gold

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
I placed my installation HowTo on the wiki under Installation Guides, 
Installation How To VistA GT.M Linux.

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/

Vista Infrastructure configuration documentation seems a bit thin on the Wiki.  
Would it be possible to merge some of the old "Installation and Configuration 
Manual" and material from the hardhats.org 'projects' section to the wiki.  
Specifically - Kernel, Fileman, Taskman, Mailman, RPC Broker, CPRS.  Any 
other portions I am leaving out?  Is the OpenVista on GT.M on Linux - 
Installation and Configuration Manual a dead document, circa 2003 or does it 
still have some life in it?

As I scratch through yet another install and configuration cycle I would like 
to tie each of these together so beginners can get a Vista system installed 
and basic configuration on Linux in a minimal amount of time and minimal 
amount of agony and hair loss  Although some, including myself realize 
there is a lot more agony to come...

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