[Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Usha




Hi
 
While 
listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following is 
displayed
 
   747.5    
CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined: 
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
    
At M source location WR+32^DDSU
 
Can 
anyone help?
 
Regards
Usha


Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.  Am I on the 
right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?

 This is what I did so far:

I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the line with 
the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line wraps 
above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is probably 
line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?

 W DDH(A0,A4)
 I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
 . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
 . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
 . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
 . N DDH
 . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
 . S Y=A4
 . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
 . X DDSID
 Q


IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value, so I 
assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I 
started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct?

GTM>W IOSL
24

 I asked for that section in the global, I think. 

GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"

Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:

**
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
Select OPTION: ^
GTM>D Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
 START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST// Certification   
Go to field:
DEVICE:   TELNET
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
   MAY 25,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE 
1
STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI: VAH,ROU (VERSION 
8.0)

DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
---

200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475

  DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties in
which the practitioner is Board Certified.

200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN UNDEFINED FILE **
   (Multiply asked)
 LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
  practitioner is Board Certified.
DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties 
in
  which the practitioner is Board Certified.
CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
$E(X,1,30),DA)="
"
2)= K ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X,1,30),DA)


200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE

INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER1,^%DT S X=Y K:Y<1 X
NOTES:  --CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER







  

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 05:15 am, Usha wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> While listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following is
> displayed
>
>
>
>747.5CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined:
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
>
> At M source location WR+32^DDSU
>
>
>
> Can anyone help?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Usha

-- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse

Yes, you're on the right track.

IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can  
read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen length",  
and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based on the  
DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.


Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too  
closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to  
dereference it.


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 of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein


On May 25, 2005, at 4:30 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:

I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.   
Am I on the

right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?

 This is what I did so far:

I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the  
line with
the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no  
line wraps
above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is  
probably

line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?

 W DDH(A0,A4)
 I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
 . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
 . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
 . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
 . N DDH
 . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
 . S Y=A4
 . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
 . X DDSID
 Q


IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a  
value, so I
assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately  
after I
started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables,  
correct?


GTM>W IOSL
24

 I asked for that section in the global, I think.

GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"

Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:

**
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
Select OPTION: ^
GTM>D Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
 START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST// Certification
Go to field:
DEVICE:   TELNET
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
   MAY  
25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE

1
STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI:  
VAH,ROU (VERSION

8.0)

DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
-- 
-


200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple  
#200.07475


  DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter  
specialties in
which the practitioner is Board  
Certified.


200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN  
UNDEFINED FILE **

   (Multiply asked)
 LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
  practitioner is Board Certified.
DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter  
specialties

in
  which the practitioner is Board  
Certified.

CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
$E(X,1,30),DA)="
"
2)= K ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X, 
1,30),DA)



200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE

INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER1,^%DT S X=Y  
K:Y<1 X
NOTES:  --CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY  
PROGRAMMER










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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Chris Richardson
Nancy;

   The IO* symbols are setup by the ^%ZIS routines.   The values are
determined by the device selected.

  Sorry, but I have to run right now.   Best wishes;   Chris

- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error


> I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.  Am I on
the
> right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
>
>  This is what I did so far:
>
> I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the line
with
> the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line
wraps
> above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is
probably
> line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
>
>  W DDH(A0,A4)
>  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
>  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
>  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
>  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
>  . N DDH
>  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
>  . S Y=A4
>  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
>  . X DDSID
>  Q
>
>
> IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value,
so I
> assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I
> started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct?
>
> GTM>W IOSL
> 24
>
>  I asked for that section in the global, I think.
>
> GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
>
> Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
>
> **
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> Select OPTION: ^
> GTM>D Q^DI
> VA FileMan 22.0
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
>  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   Select SUB-FILE:
> Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> Go to field:
> DEVICE:   TELNET
> STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
>MAY 25,[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:04:05
PAGE
> 1
> STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI: VAH,ROU
(VERSION
> 8.0)
>
> DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> --
-
>
> 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475
>
>   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties
in
> which the practitioner is Board Certified.
>
> 200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN UNDEFINED FILE
**
>(Multiply asked)
>  LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
> HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
>   practitioner is Board Certified.
> DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
specialties
> in
>   which the practitioner is Board
Certified.
> CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
> 1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
> $E(X,1,30),DA)="
> "
> 2)= K
^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X,1,30),DA)
>
>
> 200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE
>
> INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER1,^%DT S X=Y K:Y<1 X
> NOTES:  --CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY
PROGRAMMER
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 05:15 am, Usha wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >
> > While listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following
is
> > displayed
> >
> >
> >
> >747.5CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined:
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> >
> > At M source location WR+32^DDSU
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Usha
>
> --
> Nancy Anthracite
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but  
pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.


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forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli




On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:


Yes, you're on the right track.

IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can  
read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen  
length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based  
on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.


Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too  
closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to  
dereference it.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement
 of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein






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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Chris Richardson



Usha;
 
   What you see there is an error message 
that there was an attempt to access the data dictionary, at a subfile of file 
200, the first field of this subfile, but it seems to be missing.  The 
error has occurred in routine, DDSU (Data Dictionary Setup, I would guess 
without actually looking), at line, WR+32.  It looks like not all of your 
data dictionary (^DD) is present.
 
  Try this and see if there is anything 
there;
>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,*)
 
   Best wishes;  Chris

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Usha 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:15 
  AM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM 
  error
  
  
  Hi
   
  While 
  listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following is 
  displayed
   
     747.5    
  CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined: 
  ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
      
  At M source location WR+32^DDSU
   
  Can 
  anyone help?
   
  Regards
  Usha


Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread whitten
> 
> I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.  Am I on 
> the 
> right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
> 
>  This is what I did so far:
> 
> I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the line with 
> the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line wraps 
> above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is probably 
> line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?

Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR. (WR counts as WR+0)
to see the line directly, you can just type:
MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
 . X DDSID

which explains the headache, since it is an Xecute command on the local
variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).   As you can see in your
code fragment below, the variable IOSL (Input-Output-Screen-Length) is
only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable DDS is defined, either with
sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or 11 (Self, SubnodesOnly,
Self+Subnodes)

This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it depends on the late-bound
value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to find out the problem is to
use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after you see the error.

> 
>  W DDH(A0,A4)
>  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
>  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
>  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
>  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
>  . N DDH
>  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
>  . S Y=A4
>  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
>  . X DDSID
>  Q
> 
> 
> IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value, so I 
> assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I 
> started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct?
> 
> GTM>W IOSL
> 24
> 
>  I asked for that section in the global, I think. 
> 
> GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> 
> Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> 
> **
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> Select OPTION: ^
> GTM>D Q^DI
> VA FileMan 22.0
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
>  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   Select SUB-FILE:
> Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> Start with field: FIRST// Certification   
> Go to field:
> DEVICE:   TELNET
> STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
>MAY 25,[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE 
> 1
> STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI: VAH,ROU 
> (VERSION 
> 8.0)
> 
> DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> ---
> 
> 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475
> 
>   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties in
> which the practitioner is Board Certified.
> 
> 200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN UNDEFINED FILE **
>(Multiply asked)
>  LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
> HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
>   practitioner is Board Certified.
> DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties 
> in
>   which the practitioner is Board Certified.
> CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
> 1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
> $E(X,1,30),DA)="
> "
> 2)= K ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X,1,30),DA)
> 
> 
> 200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE
> 
> INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER1,^%DT S X=Y K:Y<1 X
> NOTES:  --CAN'T BE ALTERED EXCEPT BY PROGRAMMER
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 05:15 am, Usha wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >
> > While listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following is
> > displayed
> >
> >
> >
> >747.5CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined:
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> >
> > At M source location WR+32^DDSU
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Usha
> 
> -- 
> Nancy Anthracite
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of picking up on the
relevant details. It might be useful to think of it this way: Kernel
keeps track of session specific state (such as characteristics of the
current output device) using various standard variables in the process
symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables include DUZ (who's signed
in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue with IOSL was
secondary (having to do with checking to see if the error message will
fit on the current screen/page). A good technique (if the error is
logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack dump, so that you can
trace your way back to the ultimate source of the trouble.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > 
> > I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference. 
> Am I on the 
> > right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
> > 
> >  This is what I did so far:
> > 
> > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the
> line with 
> > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no
> line wraps 
> > above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is
> probably 
> > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
> 
> Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR. (WR counts as WR+0)
> to see the line directly, you can just type:
> MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
>  . X DDSID
> 
> which explains the headache, since it is an Xecute command on the
> local
> variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).   As you can see in
> your
> code fragment below, the variable IOSL (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> is
> only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable DDS is defined, either
> with
> sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or 11 (Self,
> SubnodesOnly,
> Self+Subnodes)
> 
> This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it depends on the
> late-bound
> value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to find out the problem
> is to
> use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after you see the error.
> 
> > 
> >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> >  . N DDH
> >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
> >  . S Y=A4
> >  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> >  . X DDSID
> >  Q
> > 
> > 
> > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a
> value, so I 
> > assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately
> after I 
> > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables,
> correct?
> > 
> > GTM>W IOSL
> > 24
> > 
> >  I asked for that section in the global, I think. 
> > 
> > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> > 
> > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > 
> > **
> > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > Select OPTION: ^
> > GTM>D Q^DI
> > VA FileMan 22.0
> > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
> >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > Start with field: FIRST// Certification   
> > Go to field:
> > DEVICE:   TELNET
> > STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
> >MAY
> 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE 
> > 1
> > STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI:
> VAH,ROU (VERSION 
> > 8.0)
> > 
> > DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> > ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> >
>
---
> > 
> > 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple
> #200.07475
> > 
> >   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
> specialties in
> > which the practitioner is Board
> Certified.
> > 
> > 200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN
> UNDEFINED FILE **
> >(Multiply asked)
> >  LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
> > HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which
> the
> >   practitioner is Board Certified.
> > DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
> specialties 
> > in
> >   which the practitioner is Board
> Certified.
> > CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
> > 1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
> > $E(X,1,30),DA)="
> > "
> > 2)= K
> ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X,1,30),DA)
> > 
> > 
> > 200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE
> > 
> > INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER1,^%DT S X=Y
> K:Y<1 X
> >  

[Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Alberto Odor
Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
lot of stuff yesterday like:

1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso

I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing.
(Linux is not my strong point)
I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use.

If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please elaborate
as much as you want to ;)

Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA
files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).

Thanks,

Alberto Odor, MD
Mexico City






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[Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread vista

Hi,
 
I'm a 
new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a hospital 
on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from uif it is 
possible.I've installed and configured 
OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz on a redhat linux PC by following 
steps in WorldvistaForum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but 
when I runCPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window 
disapeers after a fewmoments and I can't make the connection. I think there 
is a problem inRPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find 
it.Best Regards

Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread James Gray
I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the main problem that there 
is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if developers create well 
designed public entry points/API's for a package, it is always possible for 
a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for using the entry points 
for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to Mumps, not VistA.

Jim Gray

- Original Message - 
From: "Gregory Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database


You're absolutely right. There are many serious problems with VistA  as it 
exists today, of which this is but one. What I find incredibly 
frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in the name of advancing 
VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types of issues, or even  deny 
that they are real problems. I can understand not wanting to see  it 
abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not the right way  to 
advance the technology. I believe we would be much better off  developing 
new modules that build on what we've learned from VistA  (and that's a 
LOT) and which interoperate with the existing product  to the extent that 
is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach  that tends to be 
dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a  euphemistic way of 
speaking of wholesale abandonment of the technology.


===
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right question."  --  
S. Barry Cooper



On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:


I hear you.  My point, though, is not that tedious
work is necessary.  But rather that one has a fragile
system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause havok.
 When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM object,
there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that will
harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens within its
boundries/domain/module.

VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
Once someone has programmer access, they can do
ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.

I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
programming with other structured languages was like
holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
social.  While M was like having sex with your best
friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle.  i.e.
wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.

LOL!

Kevin





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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question because it is revealing of more 
than just my ignorance.

How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your refer to is the one seen in 
D ^XTER?

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:23 am, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of picking up on the
> relevant details. It might be useful to think of it this way: Kernel
> keeps track of session specific state (such as characteristics of the
> current output device) using various standard variables in the process
> symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables include DUZ (who's signed
> in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue with IOSL was
> secondary (having to do with checking to see if the error message will
> fit on the current screen/page). A good technique (if the error is
> logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack dump, so that you can
> trace your way back to the ultimate source of the trouble.
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.
> >
> > Am I on the
> >
> > > right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
> > >
> > >  This is what I did so far:
> > >
> > > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the
> >
> > line with
> >
> > > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no
> >
> > line wraps
> >
> > > above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is
> >
> > probably
> >
> > > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
> >
> > Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR. (WR counts as WR+0)
> > to see the line directly, you can just type:
> > MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
> >  . X DDSID
> >
> > which explains the headache, since it is an Xecute command on the
> > local
> > variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).   As you can see in
> > your
> > code fragment below, the variable IOSL (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> > is
> > only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable DDS is defined, either
> > with
> > sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or 11 (Self,
> > SubnodesOnly,
> > Self+Subnodes)
> >
> > This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it depends on the
> > late-bound
> > value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to find out the problem
> > is to
> > use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after you see the error.
> >
> > >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> > >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> > >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> > >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> > >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> > >  . N DDH
> > >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
> > >  . S Y=A4
> > >  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> > >  . X DDSID
> > >  Q
> > >
> > >
> > > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a
> >
> > value, so I
> >
> > > assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately
> >
> > after I
> >
> > > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables,
> >
> > correct?
> >
> > > GTM>W IOSL
> > > 24
> > >
> > >  I asked for that section in the global, I think.
> > >
> > > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> > > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> > >
> > > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > >
> > > **
> > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > > Select OPTION: ^
> > > GTM>D Q^DI
> > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
> > >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > > Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> > > Go to field:
> > > DEVICE:   TELNET
> > > STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
> > >MAY
> >
> > 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE
> >
> > > 1
> > > STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI:
> >
> > VAH,ROU (VERSION
> >
> > > 8.0)
> > >
> > > DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> > > ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
>
> ---
>
>
> > > 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple
> >
> > #200.07475
> >
> > >   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
> >
> > specialties in
> >
> > > which the practitioner is Board
> >
> > Certified.
> >
> > > 200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN
> >
> > UNDEFINED FILE **
> >
> > >(Multiply asked)
> > >  LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
> > > HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which
> >
> > the
> >
> > >   practitioner is Board Certified.
> > > DESCRIPTION:  This field

Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine?  If 
no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux version.

Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It have been thinking that might 
be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a 
practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it will 
have support guaranteed to be available. 

Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a 
"bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name 
beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.) 

Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you 
can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version. 

Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available to 
a large enterprise for the other distros.

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote:
> Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
> lot of stuff yesterday like:
>
> 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
>
> I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing.
> (Linux is not my strong point)
> I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use.
>
> If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please
> elaborate as much as you want to ;)
>
> Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA
> files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alberto Odor, MD
> Mexico City
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I am not sure that it matters, but add CCOW=DISABLED in front of the s= 

CPSChart.exe CCOW=DISABLED s=192.168.1.225 p=9200  

Tell us about your firewall situation as well. With an IP of 192.168.1.225, 
you might not be in a place with wide open ports between machines and there 
is a problem if your ports are restricted.

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 11:05 am, vista wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a
> hospital on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u if it is
> possible.
>
> I've installed and configured OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz
>  on a redhat linux PC by following steps in Worldvista
> Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but when I run
> CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window disapeers after a few
> moments and I can't make the connection. I think there is a problem in
> RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find it.
>
> Best Regards

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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Street
No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux.  The Fedora Core 2 
distribution is still supported and there is nothing wrong with it.  I run 
GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466 Celeron with 512 RAM.

I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without a hitch.  I haven't lost 
much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't the place for distro wars.  
If you are running a machine with a recent version of the Linux kernel on it, 
chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't matter which distribution 
of Linux you are running.

Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works of Nancy, Kevin 
Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M on Linux going.  After 
getting everything installed you will have some different questions.

Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never ends. now where is my 
Mumps reference book... 

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:53, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine? 
> If no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux
> version.
>
> Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It have been thinking that
> might be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a
> practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it
> will have support guaranteed to be available.
>
> Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a
> "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name
> beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.)
>
> Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you
> can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version.
>
> Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available
> to a large enterprise for the other distros.
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote:
> > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
> > lot of stuff yesterday like:
> >
> > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
> >
> > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for
> > testing. (Linux is not my strong point)
> > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can
> > use.
> >
> > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please
> > elaborate as much as you want to ;)
> >
> > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the
> > VA files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alberto Odor, MD
> > Mexico City
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
They can and they do (and they shouldn't).

It seems to me that there has been a strong cultural bias against
encapsulation (or structured code in general). The irony is that even
the Pentium chip supports protection rings (and MUMPS is supposed to be
a high level language)!


--- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the main problem that
> there 
> is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if developers create
> well 
> designed public entry points/API's for a package, it is always
> possible for 
> a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for using the entry
> points 
> for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to Mumps, not VistA.
> Jim Gray
> 


A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. 
--Benjamin Disraeli

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
While such rogue actions are possible in M, there are other constraints
besides those imposed by the language environment.  In VHA before code is
released it is examined using tools such as XINDEX (as well as direct code
inspection) by individuals other than the original programmer.  The code is
also open for all to see.  And the original programmers (are at least
supposed to) have security clearances and are expected to act honorably and
follow policies and standard operating procedures.  Of course, human error
can and does happen and using good programming practices can help keep those
to a minimum.

Bypassing the "public" entry points/API's is sometimes permitted when such
things as performance or timeliness of being able to respond with new code
become issues.

I've heard no one express the belief that "developing new modules that build
on what we've learned from VistA ... which interoperate with the existing
product to the extent that is possible [is] dismissed out of hand as being
nothing more than a euphemistic way of speaking of wholesale abandonment of
the technology."  But I HAVE heard others say that developing in such a
manner should not be undertaken because it "will just let developers keep
doing what they've always been doing."  Which always struck me as being
absolutely false (and in fact rather arrogant ... the one speaking is
willing to change but other developers are not).  I believe most developers
embrace things that are more efficient and more secure.

And by the way, only when coding "by the rules" are OLE/COM objects (or any
other components) inviolate.  Code with enough authority at run time can do
anything to such objects.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
Gray
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:32 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the main problem that there 
is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if developers create well 
designed public entry points/API's for a package, it is always possible for 
a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for using the entry points 
for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to Mumps, not VistA.
Jim Gray

- Original Message - 
From: "Gregory Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database


> You're absolutely right. There are many serious problems with VistA  as it

> exists today, of which this is but one. What I find incredibly 
> frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in the name of advancing 
> VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types of issues, or even  deny

> that they are real problems. I can understand not wanting to see  it 
> abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not the right way  to 
> advance the technology. I believe we would be much better off  developing 
> new modules that build on what we've learned from VistA  (and that's a 
> LOT) and which interoperate with the existing product  to the extent that 
> is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach  that tends to be 
> dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a  euphemistic way of 
> speaking of wholesale abandonment of the technology.
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right question."  --  
> S. Barry Cooper
>
>
> On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
>
>> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that tedious
>> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a fragile
>> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause havok.
>>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM object,
>> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that will
>> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens within its
>> boundries/domain/module.
>>
>> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
>> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
>> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
>> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
>>
>> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
>> programming with other structured languages was like
>> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
>> social.  While M was like having sex with your best
>> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle.  i.e.
>> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Yes, I'm referring to ^XTER. Just type ^L to get a list of variables,
and you will see (among other things) a stack trace.

--- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question because it is revealing
> of more 
> than just my ignorance.
> 
> How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your refer to is the
> one seen in 
> D ^XTER?
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:23 am, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> > FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of picking up on
> the
> > relevant details. It might be useful to think of it this way:
> Kernel
> > keeps track of session specific state (such as characteristics of
> the
> > current output device) using various standard variables in the
> process
> > symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables include DUZ (who's
> signed
> > in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue with IOSL was
> > secondary (having to do with checking to see if the error message
> will
> > fit on the current screen/page). A good technique (if the error is
> > logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack dump, so that you
> can
> > trace your way back to the ultimate source of the trouble.
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I would like to know how to chase this down for future
> reference.
> > >
> > > Am I on the
> > >
> > > > right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
> > > >
> > > >  This is what I did so far:
> > > >
> > > > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.  
> the
> > >
> > > line with
> > >
> > > > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were
> no
> > >
> > > line wraps
> > >
> > > > above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32
> is
> > >
> > > probably
> > >
> > > > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
> > >
> > > Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR. (WR counts as
> WR+0)
> > > to see the line directly, you can just type:
> > > MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
> > >  . X DDSID
> > >
> > > which explains the headache, since it is an Xecute command on the
> > > local
> > > variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).   As you can see
> in
> > > your
> > > code fragment below, the variable IOSL
> (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> > > is
> > > only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable DDS is defined,
> either
> > > with
> > > sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or 11 (Self,
> > > SubnodesOnly,
> > > Self+Subnodes)
> > >
> > > This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it depends on the
> > > late-bound
> > > value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to find out the
> problem
> > > is to
> > > use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after you see the error.
> > >
> > > >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> > > >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> > > >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> > > >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> > > >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> > > >  . N DDH
> > > >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
> > > >  . S Y=A4
> > > >  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> > > >  . X DDSID
> > > >  Q
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me
> a
> > >
> > > value, so I
> > >
> > > > assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately
> > >
> > > after I
> > >
> > > > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local
> variables,
> > >
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > > GTM>W IOSL
> > > > 24
> > > >
> > > >  I asked for that section in the global, I think.
> > > >
> > > > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> > > > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> > > >
> > > > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > > > Select OPTION: ^
> > > > GTM>D Q^DI
> > > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
> > > >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > > > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > > > Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> > > > Go to field:
> > > > DEVICE:   TELNET
> > > > STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
> > > >MAY
> > >
> > > 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE
> > >
> > > > 1
> > > > STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI:
> > >
> > > VAH,ROU (VERSION
> > >
> > > > 8.0)
> > > >
> > > > DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> > > > ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> >
> >
>
---
> >
> >
> > > > 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple
> > >
> > > #200.07475
> > >
> > > >   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
> > >
> > > specialties in
> > >

RE: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Of course. But I hope people aren't logging in as root as a matter of
course!

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And by the way, only when coding "by the rules" are OLE/COM objects
> (or any
> other components) inviolate.  Code with enough authority at run time
> can do
> anything to such objects.


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported here.
Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.

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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but  
pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.

===
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forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli



On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:

> Yes, you're on the right track.
>
> IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can  
> read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen  
> length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based  
> on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
>
> Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too  
> closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to  
> dereference it.
>
> ===
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I am running Debian, and I am very happy with it and loath to change, being 
comfortable with it, but since he is just starting out and looking at 
supporting 40,000,000, maybe something with an Enterprise version would be a 
good thing for him to look at.  

If I were from RedHat or Novell and happened to be reading this list, I would 
be writing him a nice email offering him a free eval copy of the Enterprise 
version right now!

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 11:53 am, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine? 
> If no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux
> version.
>
> Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It have been thinking that
> might be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a
> practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it
> will have support guaranteed to be available.
>
> Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a
> "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name
> beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.)
>
> Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you
> can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version.
>
> Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available
> to a large enterprise for the other distros.
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote:
> > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
> > lot of stuff yesterday like:
> >
> > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
> >
> > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for
> > testing. (Linux is not my strong point)
> > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can
> > use.
> >
> > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please
> > elaborate as much as you want to ;)
> >
> > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the
> > VA files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alberto Odor, MD
> > Mexico City
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Yeah...I've heard that, too. But it strikes me as quite a pessimistic
assessment of VistA and what we've learned developing it. It also
places the focus in the wrong place. Instead of focusing on
implementation details, I believe we'd be much better off looking at
the *stucture* of the medical record and the patterns of interaction
between different modules. The implementation technology is important,
too, but secondary.

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I've heard no one express the belief that "developing new modules
> that build
> on what we've learned from VistA ... which interoperate with the
> existing
> product to the extent that is possible [is] dismissed out of hand as
> being
> nothing more than a euphemistic way of speaking of wholesale
> abandonment of
> the technology."  

> But I HAVE heard others say that developing in such
> a
> manner should not be undertaken because it "will just let developers
> keep
> doing what they've always been doing."  Which always struck me as
> being
> absolutely false (and in fact rather arrogant ... the one speaking is
> willing to change but other developers are not).  I believe most
> developers
> embrace things that are more efficient and more secure.
> 
> And by the way, only when coding "by the rules" are OLE/COM objects
> (or any
> other components) inviolate.  Code with enough authority at run time
> can do
> anything to such objects.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> James
> Gray
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:32 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database
> 
> I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the main problem that
> there 
> is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if developers create
> well 
> designed public entry points/API's for a package, it is always
> possible for 
> a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for using the entry
> points 
> for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to Mumps, not VistA.
> Jim Gray
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gregory Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database
> 
> 
> > You're absolutely right. There are many serious problems with VistA
>  as it
> 
> > exists today, of which this is but one. What I find incredibly 
> > frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in the name of
> advancing 
> > VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types of issues, or
> even  deny
> 
> > that they are real problems. I can understand not wanting to see 
> it 
> > abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not the right way 
> to 
> > advance the technology. I believe we would be much better off 
> developing 
> > new modules that build on what we've learned from VistA  (and
> that's a 
> > LOT) and which interoperate with the existing product  to the
> extent that 
> > is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach  that tends to be 
> > dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a  euphemistic way
> of 
> > speaking of wholesale abandonment of the technology.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right
> question."  --  
> > S. Barry Cooper
> >
> >
> > On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> >
> >> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that tedious
> >> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a fragile
> >> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause havok.
> >>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM object,
> >> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that will
> >> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens within its
> >> boundries/domain/module.
> >>
> >> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
> >> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
> >> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
> >> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
> >>
> >> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
> >> programming with other structured languages was like
> >> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
> >> social.  While M was like having sex with your best
> >> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle.  i.e.
> >> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Of course you're right.

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported
> here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but
> not at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> 
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but  
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> 
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his  
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can
>  
> > read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen  
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based 
> 
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too  
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to  
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement
> >  of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
So does this tell me that in my installation I have nothing?

GTM>D ^%G

Output device: :

List ^DD(200.0745,.01,*)

List ^


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:31 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
>
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can
> > read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Nothing at that node, but I think the node in question was at:
^DD(200.07475,

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Anthracite
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

So does this tell me that in my installation I have nothing?

GTM>D ^%G

Output device: :

List ^DD(200.0745,.01,*)

List ^


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:31 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not
at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
>
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can
> > read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement
> >  of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein
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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Alberto Odor

Thanks Mark,
I have all documents of the wiki printed and ready to follow.
Thank you also for the "young man", but chances are that I'm older than you.

Greetings

Alberto

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Mark
Street
Enviado el: Miércoles, 25 de Mayo de 2005 10:20 a.m.
Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux.  The Fedora Core 2

distribution is still supported and there is nothing wrong with it.  I run 
GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466 Celeron with 512 RAM.

I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without a hitch.  I haven't lost

much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't the place for distro
wars.  
If you are running a machine with a recent version of the Linux kernel on
it, 
chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't matter which
distribution 
of Linux you are running.

Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works of Nancy, Kevin 
Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M on Linux going.  After 
getting everything installed you will have some different questions.

Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never ends. now where is my

Mumps reference book... 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread chuck5566
Could it be that you Linux firewall is not allowing access to port 9200?


Have you looked at http://www.hardhats.org/projects/VistA_Install/CPRSStart12.html ?


Chuck



On May 25, 2005, at 10:05 AM, vista wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a hospital on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u
if it is possible.

I've installed and configured OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz
 on a redhat linux PC by following steps in Worldvista
Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but when I run
CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window disapeers after a few
moments and I can't make the connection. I think there is a problem in
RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find it.

Best Regards


Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Hi,

  I am about to tackle getting CPRS talking as well...

  Question: Is the RPC broker setup to handle some simple "ASCII"
  requests over say a telnet session?  That way,  one can confirm that
  the RPC broker is up and running. or not.  Using the example below:
$ telnet 192.168.1.255 9200
  would make the connection... then if there was some item that could
  be entered by hand and give results... that would be good to know.

  TIA for the advice.

Cheers,
  --ldl
On 5/25/05, vista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Hi, 
>   
> I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a hospital
> on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u
> if it is possible.
> 
> I've installed and configured
> OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz
>  on a redhat linux PC by following steps in Worldvista
> Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but when I run
> CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window disapeers after a few
> moments and I can't make the connection. I think there is a problem in
> RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find it.
> 
> Best Regards 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Hi,

  Re: Linux Distributions
  IMO, due to the refocussing of business and acquisition, etc, we are
  still somewhat in a state of flux. I think main questions that you (Alberto)
  need to answer is:
- Do I want to have OS support 24x7, e-mail, telephone, volunteers?
- What is the likelihood that I am going to have a software failure
  for which a vendor's assistance is vital?

  My recommendations would be: (alhpabetic ordering)
- If you need to have vendor support: Novell or Red Hat
- If you are willing to rely on email, etc: Debian, Fedora
- Others: Gentoo, Knoppix, etc, etc, etc

  I hope that we (WorldVistA/Hardhats) settle on a few distributions so that
  there can be expertise in the adminstration of these systems.  They all
  have unique things, so it is confusing (from a giving advice perspective)
  to have different distributions. Generally one needs to know which
  distribution is being asked about -- even if they are all running the same
  identical Linux kernel.  The difference is NOT Linux, it is the stuff that the
  distribution has integrated.

  Over the past 4-5 years there has been quite a number of distributions
  (flavors) of   GNU Linux that people have been using. Issues can arise
  because of these, so it can be unnecessarily confusing.
 
  For myself, I intend to be able to advise people running: SuSE 9.3+,
  Fedora Core 3+ and Red Hat (version TBD).  Other varieties may be
  supported in the future. There are enough administrative differences
  (SuSE uses YAST, etc) that giving advice can be tricky. (Note: I can
  advise on the older version of some of these, but have stated support
  for the current (now) and future versions, from now.

Cheers,
  --ldl

On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine?  If
> no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux version.
> 
> Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It have been thinking that might
> be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a
> practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it will
> have support guaranteed to be available.
> 
> Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a
> "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name
> beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.)
> 
> Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you
> can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version.
> 
> Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available to
> a large enterprise for the other distros.
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote:
> > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
> > lot of stuff yesterday like:
> >
> > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
> >
> > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing.
> > (Linux is not my strong point)
> > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use.
> >
> > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please
> > elaborate as much as you want to ;)
> >
> > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA
> > files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alberto Odor, MD
> > Mexico City
> >
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[Hardhats-members] Wiki Woes - Spam Protection Filter

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Street
I logged into the Wiki today and tried to make some edits to some of the docs 
and I was greeted with a friendly spam protection filter error message.

Spam protection filter
From OpenVistA Wiki

The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably 
caused by a link to an external site.

You might want to check the following regular expression for patterns that are 
currently blocked:

.22. 

Help, I can't save my changes! and no I am not linking to an external 
site.

It is tripping up on the following line in my content.

VA FileMan V.22.0

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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I think a better way of testing the RPC broker would
be to use the RPC broker testing program.  This is
outlined in Nancy's HardHats site instructions.

When you launch the RPC broker server via
STRT^XWBTCP(port), I think it checks to ensure that it
is running.  If the Broker tester doesn't work after
that, I would look for a firewall blocking the ports
etc.

I am not aware of being able to telnet into the RPC
broker server.

Kevin

--- "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I am about to tackle getting CPRS talking as
> well...
> 
>   Question: Is the RPC broker setup to handle some
> simple "ASCII"
>   requests over say a telnet session?  That way, 
> one can confirm that
>   the RPC broker is up and running. or not.  Using
> the example below:
> $ telnet 192.168.1.255 9200
>   would make the connection... then if there was
> some item that could
>   be entered by hand and give results... that would
> be good to know.
> 
>   TIA for the advice.
> 
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
> On 5/25/05, vista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> > Hi, 
> >   
> > I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for
> implementing it in a hospital
> > on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u
> > if it is possible.
> > 
> > I've installed and configured
> > OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz
> >  on a redhat linux PC by following steps in
> Worldvista
> > Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat
> (OR_30_195), but when I run
> > CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window
> disapeers after a few
> > moments and I can't make the connection. I think
> there is a problem in
> > RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I
> didn't find it.
> > 
> > Best Regards 
> 
> 
> -- 
> LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of
> Minneapolis
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki Woes - Spam Protection Filter

2005-05-25 Thread whitten

I'm sorry my anti-spam measures affected your work.
Please try to save now that I've changed the regex to not be so "tight".

David



> 
> I logged into the Wiki today and tried to make some edits to some of the do=
> cs=20
> and I was greeted with a friendly spam protection filter error message.
> 
> Spam protection filter
> =46rom OpenVistA Wiki
> 
> The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probabl=
> y=20
> caused by a link to an external site.
> 
> You might want to check the following regular expression for patterns that =
> are=20
> currently blocked:
> 
> =2E22.=20
> 
> Help, I can't save my changes! and no I am not linking to an external=20
> site.
> 
> It is tripping up on the following line in my content.
> 
> VA FileMan V.22.0
> 
> =2D-=20
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I agree.  But this is not to say that wonderful things
can't be made with M.  One just has to work harder to
be careful.

Kevin


--- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the
> main problem that there 
> is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if
> developers create well 
> designed public entry points/API's for a package, it
> is always possible for 
> a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for
> using the entry points 
> for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to
> Mumps, not VistA.
> Jim Gray
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gregory Woodhouse"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating
> the database
> 
> 
> > You're absolutely right. There are many serious
> problems with VistA  as it 
> > exists today, of which this is but one. What I
> find incredibly 
> > frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in
> the name of advancing 
> > VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types
> of issues, or even  deny 
> > that they are real problems. I can understand not
> wanting to see  it 
> > abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not
> the right way  to 
> > advance the technology. I believe we would be much
> better off  developing 
> > new modules that build on what we've learned from
> VistA  (and that's a 
> > LOT) and which interoperate with the existing
> product  to the extent that 
> > is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach 
> that tends to be 
> > dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a
>  euphemistic way of 
> > speaking of wholesale abandonment of the
> technology.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask
> the right question."  --  
> > S. Barry Cooper
> >
> >
> > On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg
> wrote:
> >
> >> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that
> tedious
> >> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a
> fragile
> >> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause
> havok.
> >>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM
> object,
> >> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that
> will
> >> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens
> within its
> >> boundries/domain/module.
> >>
> >> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
> >> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
> >> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
> >> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
> >>
> >> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
> >> programming with other structured languages was
> like
> >> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
> >> social.  While M was like having sex with your
> best
> >> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle. 
> i.e.
> >> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Nancy,

Take a look, also, at a quick summary of debugging
commands I compiled for GTM here:

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M

It doesn't answer your qestion about dumping the stack
(I can't remember how to do that either right now),
but it gives other helpful tips.

Kevin

--- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question
> because it is revealing of more 
> than just my ignorance.
> 
> How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your
> refer to is the one seen in 
> D ^XTER?
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:23 am, Greg Woodhouse
> wrote:
> > FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of
> picking up on the
> > relevant details. It might be useful to think of
> it this way: Kernel
> > keeps track of session specific state (such as
> characteristics of the
> > current output device) using various standard
> variables in the process
> > symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables
> include DUZ (who's signed
> > in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue
> with IOSL was
> > secondary (having to do with checking to see if
> the error message will
> > fit on the current screen/page). A good technique
> (if the error is
> > logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack
> dump, so that you can
> > trace your way back to the ultimate source of the
> trouble.
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I would like to know how to chase this down
> for future reference.
> > >
> > > Am I on the
> > >
> > > > right track and now what?  How do I find out
> more about IOSL?
> > > >
> > > >  This is what I did so far:
> > > >
> > > > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the
> routine DDSU.m.   the
> > >
> > > line with
> > >
> > > > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are
> 149-159 and there were no
> > >
> > > line wraps
> > >
> > > > above to screw things up that I could see.  It
> seems that WR+32 is
> > >
> > > probably
> > >
> > > > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR
> as 1, correct?
> > >
> > > Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR.
> (WR counts as WR+0)
> > > to see the line directly, you can just type:
> > > MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
> > >  . X DDSID
> > >
> > > which explains the headache, since it is an
> Xecute command on the
> > > local
> > > variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).
>   As you can see in
> > > your
> > > code fragment below, the variable IOSL
> (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> > > is
> > > only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable
> DDS is defined, either
> > > with
> > > sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or
> 11 (Self,
> > > SubnodesOnly,
> > > Self+Subnodes)
> > >
> > > This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it
> depends on the
> > > late-bound
> > > value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to
> find out the problem
> > > is to
> > > use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after
> you see the error.
> > >
> > > >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> > > >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> > > >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> > > >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> > > >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> > > >  . N DDH
> > > >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K
> DDSID(1)
> > > >  . S Y=A4
> > > >  . S:$D(DDS)
> DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> > > >  . X DDSID
> > > >  Q
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the
> routine,and gives me a
> > >
> > > value, so I
> > >
> > > > assume it is the undefined global variable.
> This is immediately
> > >
> > > after I
> > >
> > > > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes
> the local variables,
> > >
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > > GTM>W IOSL
> > > > 24
> > > >
> > > >  I asked for that section in the global, I
> think.
> > > >
> > > > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> > > >
>
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> > > >
> > > > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > > > Select OPTION: ^
> > > > GTM>D Q^DI
> > > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST
> FILE ATTRIBUTES
> > > >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > > > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > > > Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> > > > Go to field:
> > > > DEVICE:   TELNET
> > > > STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON
> FILE
> > > >   
> MAY
> > >
> > > 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE
> > >
> > > > 1
> > > > STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE:
> CAMP MASTER   UCI:
> > >
> > > VAH,ROU (VERSION
> > >
> > > > 8.0)
> > > >
> > > > DATA  NAME  GLOBAL
>DATA
> > > > ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  
>TYPE
> >
> >
>
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[Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client Incompatiblity

2005-05-25 Thread Ewaen Okao
Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
 
Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no longer appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the install document.
 
However when I log in there is a message that appears. it is as follows
 
This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
The server is running version 1.0.25.28
it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to this version.
 
How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
 
When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another error message appears, this error is as follows:
 
CPRS - Patient Chart
List index out of bounds (0)
 
Any advice anyone.
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I am running RH 9.  I thought it would be a good,
stable version of Linux for my server.  And it has
served me well.  The only problem was when I wanted to
add a DVD burner, it wasn't as slick as I would want. 
I ended up not being able to use it.  I'm sure Mark
could have fixed it, but I found another solution.

So the only reason that I can see to use the latest
distros is if you have hardware support issues, or if
you want commercial support.

And that is the advice of a Linux newbie+6 months, so
take it for what it is worth.

Kevin

--- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is
> Linux.  The Fedora Core 2 
> distribution is still supported and there is nothing
> wrong with it.  I run 
> GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466
> Celeron with 512 RAM.
> 
> I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without
> a hitch.  I haven't lost 
> much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't
> the place for distro wars.  
> If you are running a machine with a recent version
> of the Linux kernel on it, 
> chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't
> matter which distribution 
> of Linux you are running.
> 
> Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works
> of Nancy, Kevin 
> Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M
> on Linux going.  After 
> getting everything installed you will have some
> different questions.
> 
> Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never
> ends. now where is my 
> Mumps reference book... 
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:53, Nancy Anthracite
> wrote:
> > First, do you have anything you are in love with
> on your Fedora 2 machine? 
> > If no, why not start by getting yourself an up to
> date version of Linux
> > version.
> >
> > Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It
> have been thinking that
> > might be nice to my feet wet with one of those
> that a hospital or perhaps a
> > practice installing VistA-Office might like to use
> for that reason as it
> > will have support guaranteed to be available.
> >
> > Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as
> you know, and tends to be a
> > "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have
> said. (One with a name
> > beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as
> well.)
> >
> > Then there is Suse, and I would like to have
> someone comment on Suse as you
> > can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise
> version.
> >
> > Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth
> of the support available
> > to a large enterprise for the other distros.
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor
> wrote:
> > > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time
> as I can. I downloaded a
> > > lot of stuff yesterday like:
> > >
> > > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> > > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> > > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
> > >
> > > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as
> I only use it for
> > > testing. (Linux is not my strong point)
> > > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs
> with WindowsXP I can
> > > use.
> > >
> > > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would
> you start? Please
> > > elaborate as much as you want to ;)
> > >
> > > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make
> an installation from the
> > > VA files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk
> - one user version).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alberto Odor, MD
> > > Mexico City
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
My question, looking at this, is how to go about
fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away
somehow.  Would it have to be manually reconstructed?

Kevin

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the
> problem reported here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> 
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential
> errors, but  
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> 
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors
> of his  
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel
> variables that you can  
> > read about in the online documentation. This one
> is "screen  
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the
> device handler based  
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem
> here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and
> without looking too  
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an
> attempt to  
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "The whole of science is nothing more than a
> refinement
> >  of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I think the "young man" was ment in a friendly way. 
Just like being new to something makes one a newbie.

We like newbies here.  So feel free to jump right in
to the work of installation and let us know how we can
help.

Kevin

--- Alberto Odor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Thanks Mark,
> I have all documents of the wiki printed and ready
> to follow.
> Thank you also for the "young man", but chances are
> that I'm older than you.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Alberto
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> En nombre de Mark
> Street
> Enviado el: Miércoles, 25 de Mayo de 2005 10:20 a.m.
> Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
> 
> No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is
> Linux.  The Fedora Core 2
> 
> distribution is still supported and there is nothing
> wrong with it.  I run 
> GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466
> Celeron with 512 RAM.
> 
> I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without
> a hitch.  I haven't lost
> 
> much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't
> the place for distro
> wars.  
> If you are running a machine with a recent version
> of the Linux kernel on
> it, 
> chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't
> matter which
> distribution 
> of Linux you are running.
> 
> Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works
> of Nancy, Kevin 
> Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M
> on Linux going.  After 
> getting everything installed you will have some
> different questions.
> 
> Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never
> ends. now where is my
> 
> Mumps reference book... 
> 
> sts.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Jim Self
Mark Street wrote:
>Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never ends. now where is my
>Mumps reference book...

The best reference is Ed de Moel's "MUMPS by Example" - online version is at
http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/
 and I just found a link to a new version that I don't recall seeing before
http://207.192.157.194/Demo/AnnoStd

It says I am visitor #752 and powered by GT.M and update 12-Mar-2005.
Good job Ed. :)

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki Woes - Spam Protection Filter

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I'm guessing it thinks .22 is part on an IP address. 
Could you change your text to ". 22" and still have it
readable?

Dave W. turned on all the protections after someone
trashed the wikki page.

Kevin

--- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I logged into the Wiki today and tried to make some
> edits to some of the docs 
> and I was greeted with a friendly spam protection
> filter error message.
> 
> Spam protection filter
> From OpenVistA Wiki
> 
> The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam
> filter. This is probably 
> caused by a link to an external site.
> 
> You might want to check the following regular
> expression for patterns that are 
> currently blocked:
> 
> .22. 
> 
> Help, I can't save my changes! and no I am not
> linking to an external 
> site.
> 
> It is tripping up on the following line in my
> content.
> 
> VA FileMan V.22.0
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Oh...I completely agree that wonderful things can be made in M (or in
Java, or in Python, or ...) Really, I think M is quite a remarkable
language. My point was not to disparage it at all.

BTW,

Normal setup for a VistA system is to have a single (Linux) user that
everyone uses when the sign on. In principle, if everyone signed in as
themselves, then finer grained access control at the OS level should be
a possibility.

--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree.  But this is not to say that wonderful things
> can't be made with M.  One just has to work harder to
> be careful.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the
> > main problem that there 
> > is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if
> > developers create well 
> > designed public entry points/API's for a package, it
> > is always possible for 
> > a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for
> > using the entry points 
> > for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to
> > Mumps, not VistA.
> > Jim Gray
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Gregory Woodhouse"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating
> > the database
> > 
> > 
> > > You're absolutely right. There are many serious
> > problems with VistA  as it 
> > > exists today, of which this is but one. What I
> > find incredibly 
> > > frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in
> > the name of advancing 
> > > VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types
> > of issues, or even  deny 
> > > that they are real problems. I can understand not
> > wanting to see  it 
> > > abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not
> > the right way  to 
> > > advance the technology. I believe we would be much
> > better off  developing 
> > > new modules that build on what we've learned from
> > VistA  (and that's a 
> > > LOT) and which interoperate with the existing
> > product  to the extent that 
> > > is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach 
> > that tends to be 
> > > dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a
> >  euphemistic way of 
> > > speaking of wholesale abandonment of the
> > technology.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Gregory Woodhouse
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask
> > the right question."  --  
> > > S. Barry Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that
> > tedious
> > >> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a
> > fragile
> > >> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause
> > havok.
> > >>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM
> > object,
> > >> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that
> > will
> > >> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens
> > within its
> > >> boundries/domain/module.
> > >>
> > >> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
> > >> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
> > >> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
> > >> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
> > >>
> > >> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
> > >> programming with other structured languages was
> > like
> > >> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
> > >> social.  While M was like having sex with your
> > best
> > >> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle. 
> > i.e.
> > >> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
> > >>
> > >> LOL!
> > >>
> > >> Kevin
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client Incompatiblity

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS to
run.  Look here:

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation

Kevin

--- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
>  
> Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server
> and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no longer
> appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> install document.
>  
> However when I log in there is a message that
> appears. it is as follows
>  
> This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to this
> version.
>  
> How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
>  
> When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another
> error message appears, this error is as follows:
>  
> CPRS - Patient Chart
> List index out of bounds (0)
>  
> Any advice anyone.
>  
> Ewaen Okao
> 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
One can manually reconstruct things, but it's usually safer (and less labor
if a lot is missing) to create a KIDS build from a reliable account for just
the components involved then import it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

My question, looking at this, is how to go about
fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away
somehow.  Would it have to be manually reconstructed?

Kevin

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the
> problem reported here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> 
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential
> errors, but  
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> 
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors
> of his  
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel
> variables that you can  
> > read about in the online documentation. This one
> is "screen  
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the
> device handler based  
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem
> here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and
> without looking too  
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an
> attempt to  
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Have you also read through Nancy's installation guide.
 It is designed for Cache' Mumps, but much of it can
be extrapolated to GTM.  It is on the hardhats site,
or I have a copy of it here too:
http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/
Then select "Installing on Cache' Mumps"

Let us know how things go.

Kevin

--- vista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for
> implementing it in a hospital on Morocco (North
> Africa), and I need help from u
> if it is possible.
> 
> I've installed and configured
> OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz
>  on a redhat linux PC by following steps in
> Worldvista
> Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195),
> but when I run
> CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window
> disapeers after a few
> moments and I can't make the connection. I think
> there is a problem in
> RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I
> didn't find it.
> 
> Best Regards
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[Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Martinelli, Richard
Title: Trouble with mupip





I had Vista up and running and had been working with CPRS, finely getting the PC to communicate with the Vista server last Friday.  Over the weekend the server lost power and now each time I try to work within GTM I get the message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on cluster node Vista At M source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"

  
I have searched the list and found a very similar question from Michael Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned, entering the command: mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and I get a response from mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword encountered.  In the past I have also tried to run the mupip command when I was finished running MUMPS as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never executed successfully, always issuing the same error of INVCMD.

Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm doing wrong with this command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can anyone help another newbie trying to establish a Vista system.


Richard Martinelli
CDVA
(916) 653-2395





Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
The biggest problem I had when I was getting this
running, was to get all the environmental variables
correct.  Here is my setup.  I have a shell script
named "rundown".  Here it is:

. /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
#-
echo "Running down database..."
/usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -reg "*"


And here is the file that sets my variables:

#12-14-2004 --moved exports into runvista script
#4-12-05 Trying to make a unified environmental setup
script

#-
export m2web="/usr/local/m2web"

export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista

export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
$gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
$m2web/o($m2web/w)"  #//kt
# export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
$gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"

export EDITOR="vim"
PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist

#-
echo " "
echo " "
echo "-"
echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
echo
echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
echo "vista_home="vista_home
echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
echo " "
#-


Hope that helps.
Kevin




--- "Martinelli, Richard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had Vista up and running and had been working with
> CPRS, finely getting
> the PC to communicate with the Vista server last
> Friday.  Over the weekend
> the server lost power and now each time I try to
> work within GTM I get the
> message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing
> database
> /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on
> cluster node Vista At M
> source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"
>   
> I have searched the list and found a very similar
> question from Michael
> Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned,
> entering the command:
> mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and
> I get a response from
> mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword
> encountered.  In the past
> I have also tried to run the mupip command when I
> was finished running MUMPS
> as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never
> executed successfully, always
> issuing the same error of INVCMD.
> 
> Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm
> doing wrong with this
> command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can
> anyone help another
> newbie trying to establish a Vista system.
> 
> 
> Richard Martinelli
> CDVA
> (916) 653-2395
> 




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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Street
Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!!  I noticed the powered 
by GT.M also. ; )

I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s).

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 13:38, Jim Self wrote:
> Mark Street wrote:
> >Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never ends. now where is
> > my Mumps reference book...
>
> The best reference is Ed de Moel's "MUMPS by Example" - online version is
> at http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/
>  and I just found a link to a new version that I don't recall seeing before
> http://207.192.157.194/Demo/AnnoStd
>
> It says I am visitor #752 and powered by GT.M and update 12-Mar-2005.
> Good job Ed. :)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread James Gray
I agree that wonderful things can be written in M.  I am certainly a fan of 
M.  Afterall I have been making my living at for 20 years.

Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database



I agree.  But this is not to say that wonderful things
can't be made with M.  One just has to work harder to
be careful.

Kevin


--- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the
main problem that there
is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if
developers create well
designed public entry points/API's for a package, it
is always possible for
a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for
using the entry points
for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to
Mumps, not VistA.
Jim Gray

- Original Message - 
From: "Gregory Woodhouse"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating
the database


> You're absolutely right. There are many serious
problems with VistA  as it
> exists today, of which this is but one. What I
find incredibly
> frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in
the name of advancing
> VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types
of issues, or even  deny
> that they are real problems. I can understand not
wanting to see  it
> abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not
the right way  to
> advance the technology. I believe we would be much
better off  developing
> new modules that build on what we've learned from
VistA  (and that's a
> LOT) and which interoperate with the existing
product  to the extent that
> is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach
that tends to be
> dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a
 euphemistic way of
> speaking of wholesale abandonment of the
technology.
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask
the right question."  --
> S. Barry Cooper
>
>
> On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg
wrote:
>
>> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that
tedious
>> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a
fragile
>> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause
havok.
>>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM
object,
>> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that
will
>> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens
within its
>> boundries/domain/module.
>>
>> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
>> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
>> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
>> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
>>
>> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
>> programming with other structured languages was
like
>> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
>> social.  While M was like having sex with your
best
>> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle.
i.e.
>> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

OK, here it is again.  

GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,*)
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,0)="^.1"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,0)="200.07475^B"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,1)="S ^VA(200,DA(1),""QAR2"",""B"",$E(X,1,30),DA)="
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,2)="K ^VA(200,DA(1),""QAR2"",""B"",$E(X,1,30),DA)"
^DD(200.07475,.01,3)="Enter the specialties in which the practitioner is 
BoardCertified."
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,0)="^^4^4^2910410^^"
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,1,0)="This field allows you to enter specialties in which 
the practitioner is"
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,2,0)="Board Certified."
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,3,0)=" "
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,4,0)=" "
^DD(200.07475,.01,"DT")=2910201

After having seen the data dictionary and all, I thought I would like to see 
what it looked like when I tried to enter something here.   It was just dumb 
luck there was something wrong here as well.  This is from the VA Demo.

Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES

INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// CertIFICATION(multiple)
   EDIT WHICH CERTIFICATION SUB-FIELD: ALL//
THEN EDIT FIELD:

Select NEW PERSON NAME: `138  MANAGER,SYSTEM   SM RCR
Select CERTIFICATION: Internal Medicine ??
Select CERTIFICATION: ??
You may enter a new CERTIFICATION, if you wish
This field allows you to enter specialties in which the practitioner 
is  Board Certified.

  Pointed-to File does not exist!
Select CERTIFICATION:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01:03 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> Nothing at that node, but I think the node in question was at:
> ^DD(200.07475,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Anthracite
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>
> So does this tell me that in my installation I have nothing?
>
> GTM>D ^%G
>
> Output device: :
>
> List ^DD(200.0745,.01,*)
>
> List ^
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:31 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported
> > here. Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn
> > but not
>
> at
>
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> >
> > Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but
> > pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> >
> > On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> > > Yes, you're on the right track.
> > >
> > > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can
> > > read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen
> > > length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based
> > > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
> > >
> > > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too
> > > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to
> > > dereference it.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Gregory Woodhouse
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] linux distributions [WAS: How...]

2005-05-25 Thread Adrian Midgley
Debian is a distribution well worth keeping in the list,  I suspect that
supporting Debian would also ensure Ubuntu was supported, as well as
Knoppix.

I can see that building a support ecology may look easier with SuSE
(which I like and use) or Red Hat particularly for very big
organisations, but in the UK an Open Source Consortium of small to
medium IT forms has got itself together in a serious fashion aiming to
provide that ecology, and I suppose other areas will do the same.

I think that is well-suited to Debian and its derivatives.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Alberto Odor
Thanks Kevin.
I'll Start with Fedora 2 in a test server and move to RH Enterprise for
production

Alberto

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Kevin
Toppenberg
Enviado el: Miércoles, 25 de Mayo de 2005 02:29 p.m.
Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

I am running RH 9.  I thought it would be a good,
stable version of Linux for my server.  And it has
served me well.  The only problem was when I wanted to
add a DVD burner, it wasn't as slick as I would want. 
I ended up not being able to use it.  I'm sure Mark
could have fixed it, but I found another solution.

So the only reason that I can see to use the latest
distros is if you have hardware support issues, or if
you want commercial support.

And that is the advice of a Linux newbie+6 months, so
take it for what it is worth.

Kevin

--- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is
> Linux.  The Fedora Core 2 
> distribution is still supported and there is nothing
> wrong with it.  I run 
> GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466
> Celeron with 512 RAM.
> 
> I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without
> a hitch.  I haven't lost 
> much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't
> the place for distro wars.  
> If you are running a machine with a recent version
> of the Linux kernel on it, 
> chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't
> matter which distribution 
> of Linux you are running.
> 
> Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works
> of Nancy, Kevin 
> Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M
> on Linux going.  After 
> getting everything installed you will have some
> different questions.
> 
> Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never
> ends. now where is my 
> Mumps reference book... 
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:53, Nancy Anthracite
> wrote:
> > First, do you have anything you are in love with
> on your Fedora 2 machine? 
> > If no, why not start by getting yourself an up to
> date version of Linux
> > version.
> >
> > Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It
> have been thinking that
> > might be nice to my feet wet with one of those
> that a hospital or perhaps a
> > practice installing VistA-Office might like to use
> for that reason as it
> > will have support guaranteed to be available.
> >
> > Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as
> you know, and tends to be a
> > "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have
> said. (One with a name
> > beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as
> well.)
> >
> > Then there is Suse, and I would like to have
> someone comment on Suse as you
> > can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise
> version.
> >
> > Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth
> of the support available
> > to a large enterprise for the other distros.
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor
> wrote:
> > > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time
> as I can. I downloaded a
> > > lot of stuff yesterday like:
> > >
> > > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> > > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> > > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
> > >
> > > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as
> I only use it for
> > > testing. (Linux is not my strong point)
> > > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs
> with WindowsXP I can
> > > use.
> > >
> > > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would
> you start? Please
> > > elaborate as much as you want to ;)
> > >
> > > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make
> an installation from the
> > > VA files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk
> - one user version).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alberto Odor, MD
> > > Mexico City
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
That's how FM is supposed to work!  It doesn't throw you into the error
trap, just gives you a gentle notice that a file is missing.  I've logged a
request to have the fields removed in the NEW PERSON file that are pointing
to old files that have been removed.  (When those files were removed, the
developers responsible should have arranged for the cleanup in file 200,
too.  The system is just so forgiving though!)  A patch will be forthcoming
in a month or two.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:06 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

OK, here it is again.  

GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,*)
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,0)="^.1"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,0)="200.07475^B"
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,1)="S
^VA(200,DA(1),""QAR2"",""B"",$E(X,1,30),DA)="
^DD(200.07475,.01,1,1,2)="K ^VA(200,DA(1),""QAR2"",""B"",$E(X,1,30),DA)"
^DD(200.07475,.01,3)="Enter the specialties in which the practitioner is 
BoardCertified."
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,0)="^^4^4^2910410^^"
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,1,0)="This field allows you to enter specialties in
which 
the practitioner is"
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,2,0)="Board Certified."
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,3,0)=" "
^DD(200.07475,.01,21,4,0)=" "
^DD(200.07475,.01,"DT")=2910201

After having seen the data dictionary and all, I thought I would like to see

what it looked like when I tried to enter something here.   It was just dumb

luck there was something wrong here as well.  This is from the VA Demo.

Select OPTION: 1  ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES

INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// CertIFICATION(multiple)
   EDIT WHICH CERTIFICATION SUB-FIELD: ALL//
THEN EDIT FIELD:

Select NEW PERSON NAME: `138  MANAGER,SYSTEM   SM
RCR
Select CERTIFICATION: Internal Medicine ??
Select CERTIFICATION: ??
You may enter a new CERTIFICATION, if you wish
This field allows you to enter specialties in which the practitioner

is  Board Certified.

  Pointed-to File does not exist!
Select CERTIFICATION:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 01:03 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> Nothing at that node, but I think the node in question was at:
> ^DD(200.07475,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Anthracite
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>
> So does this tell me that in my installation I have nothing?
>
> GTM>D ^%G
>
> Output device: :
>
> List ^DD(200.0745,.01,*)
>
> List ^
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:31 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> > Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported
> > here. Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn
> > but not
>
> at
>
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> >
> > Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but
> > pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> >
> > On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> > > Yes, you're on the right track.
> > >
> > > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can
> > > read about in the online documentation. This one is "screen
> > > length", and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based
> > > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here.
> > >
> > > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too
> > > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to
> > > dereference it.
> > >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Is there a special folder to place a KIDS build/transport? I am having
problems getting VistA to find a KIDS upgrade. The system is VistA running
on Cache with Win2K server. 

Thanks,

thurman
 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:46 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> 
> One can manually reconstruct things, but it's usually safer (and less
> labor
> if a lot is missing) to create a KIDS build from a reliable account for
> just
> the components involved then import it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> 
> My question, looking at this, is how to go about
> fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away
> somehow.  Would it have to be manually reconstructed?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the
> > problem reported here.
> > Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Gregory
> > Woodhouse
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
> >
> > Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential
> > errors, but
> > pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors
> > of his
> > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you're on the right track.
> > >
> > > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel
> > variables that you can
> > > read about in the online documentation. This one
> > is "screen
> > > length", and is ultimately a value set by the
> > device handler based
> > > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem
> > here.
> > >
> > > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and
> > without looking too
> > > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an
> > attempt to
> > > dereference it.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Gregory Woodhouse
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
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> > >  of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Martinelli, Richard
Title: RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip





Thanks Kevin.


I place the changes you suggested (making the necessary directory changes) in the /home/vista/.bash_profile file, but still have the same error messages appear when trying to execute mupip.  I also placed the changes in the root bash_profile. Is there another area that I should place these environmental variables?

As you probably guessed, I have not worked with Linux before so I'm limping along. 


Richard Martinelli
CDVA
(916) 653-2395



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:04 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip



The biggest problem I had when I was getting this
running, was to get all the environmental variables
correct.  Here is my setup.  I have a shell script
named "rundown".  Here it is:


. /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
#-
echo "Running down database..."
/usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -reg "*"



And here is the file that sets my variables:


#12-14-2004 --moved exports into runvista script
#4-12-05 Trying to make a unified environmental setup
script


#-
export m2web="/usr/local/m2web"


export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista


export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
$gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
$m2web/o($m2web/w)"  #//kt
# export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
$gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"


export EDITOR="vim"
PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist


#-
echo " "
echo " "
echo "-"
echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
echo
echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
echo "vista_home="vista_home
echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
echo " "
#-



Hope that helps.
Kevin





--- "Martinelli, Richard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I had Vista up and running and had been working with
> CPRS, finely getting
> the PC to communicate with the Vista server last
> Friday.  Over the weekend
> the server lost power and now each time I try to
> work within GTM I get the
> message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing
> database
> /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on
> cluster node Vista At M
> source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"
>   
> I have searched the list and found a very similar
> question from Michael
> Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned,
> entering the command:
> mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and
> I get a response from
> mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword
> encountered.  In the past
> I have also tried to run the mupip command when I
> was finished running MUMPS
> as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never
> executed successfully, always
> issuing the same error of INVCMD.
> 
> Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm
> doing wrong with this
> command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can
> anyone help another
> newbie trying to establish a Vista system.
> 
> 
> Richard Martinelli
> CDVA
> (916) 653-2395
> 




        
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Lloyd Milligan
No, but I think there is a path length limitation.  Try it from a short 
path, if you are not already doing so.


Lloyd

- Original Message - 
From: "Thurman Pedigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error



Is there a special folder to place a KIDS build/transport? I am having
problems getting VistA to find a KIDS upgrade. The system is VistA running
on Cache with Win2K server.

Thanks,

thurman


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:46 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

One can manually reconstruct things, but it's usually safer (and less
labor
if a lot is missing) to create a KIDS build from a reliable account for
just
the components involved then import it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

My question, looking at this, is how to go about
fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away
somehow.  Would it have to be manually reconstructed?

Kevin

--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the
> problem reported here.
> Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gregory
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>
> Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential
> errors, but
> pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors
> of his
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you're on the right track.
> >
> > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel
> variables that you can
> > read about in the online documentation. This one
> is "screen
> > length", and is ultimately a value set by the
> device handler based
> > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem
> here.
> >
> > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and
> without looking too
> > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an
> attempt to
> > dereference it.
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "The whole of science is nothing more than a
> refinement
> >  of everyday thinking."  -- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
>
>
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Bob Beckley
Sorry for jumping in, in the middle, but could someone please help me stop
getting double posts before I have to check into an AA program?  Thanks.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lloyd
Milligan
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:03 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error


No, but I think there is a path length limitation.  Try it from a short
path, if you are not already doing so.

Lloyd

- Original Message -
From: "Thurman Pedigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error


> Is there a special folder to place a KIDS build/transport? I am having
> problems getting VistA to find a KIDS upgrade. The system is VistA running
> on Cache with Win2K server.
>
> Thanks,
>
> thurman
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:46 PM
>> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>>
>> One can manually reconstruct things, but it's usually safer (and less
>> labor
>> if a lot is missing) to create a KIDS build from a reliable account for
>> just
>> the components involved then import it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
>> Toppenberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 PM
>> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>>
>> My question, looking at this, is how to go about
>> fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away
>> somehow.  Would it have to be manually reconstructed?
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the
>> > problem reported here.
>> > Fileman does tolerate that.  Having data at
>> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at
>> > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > On Behalf Of Gregory
>> > Woodhouse
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM
>> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
>> >
>> > Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential
>> > errors, but
>> > pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them.
>> >
>> > ===
>> > Gregory Woodhouse
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors
>> > of his
>> > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yes, you're on the right track.
>> > >
>> > > IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel
>> > variables that you can
>> > > read about in the online documentation. This one
>> > is "screen
>> > > length", and is ultimately a value set by the
>> > device handler based
>> > > on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem
>> > here.
>> > >
>> > > Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and
>> > without looking too
>> > > closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an
>> > attempt to
>> > > dereference it.
>> > >
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[Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Ewaen Okao
Thanks Kevin
Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe and it connected to the servewr with no errors.
Now that I have the VistA installed and the CPRSChart.exe running.
I have no idea what next to do.
will like to have a test enrollement and eligibilty verification setup, can VistA do this ?
Also how do I populate the patient, physcians etc list
Any suggestions on what next to do
Phew this is hard!!
Ewaen
 
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client IncompatiblityTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netReply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netYou upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS torun.  Look here:http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_InstallationKevin--- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Thank Lloyd and Nancy,>  > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server> and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no longer> appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid> particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the> install document.>  > However when I log in there is a message that> appears. it is as follows>  > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe> The server is running version 1.0.25.28> it is strongly
 recommended that you upgrade to this> version.>  > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?>  > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another> error message appears, this error is as follows:>  > CPRS - Patient Chart> List index out of bounds (0)>  > Any advice anyone.>  > Ewaen Okao
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client Incompatiblity

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
The long answer so others can do it, is noting the version you need, you go to 
the WV Wiki and look at the CPRS page which lists the names of the files that 
contain the CPRS that you want,  

WV Wiki URL is http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/  Once you figure out 
what one it is, which in your case, is OR_30_195.zip.

Find the CPRS OR_30_*.zip files at ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/Packages/Order 
Entry-Results Reporting - OR/ 


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 04:27 pm, Ewaen Okao wrote:
> Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
>
> Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server and the error when I run
> D^ZTMB the error no longer appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the install document.
>
> However when I log in there is a message that appears. it is as follows
>
> This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to this version.
>
> How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
>
> When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another error message appears,
> this error is as follows:
>
> CPRS - Patient Chart
> List index out of bounds (0)
>
> Any advice anyone.
>
> Ewaen Okao
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Nice! Thanks.

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 04:24 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> Take a look, also, at a quick summary of debugging
> commands I compiled for GTM here:
>
> http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M
>
> It doesn't answer your qestion about dumping the stack
> (I can't remember how to do that either right now),
> but it gives other helpful tips.
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question
> > because it is revealing of more
> > than just my ignorance.
> >
> > How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your
> > refer to is the one seen in
> > D ^XTER?
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:23 am, Greg Woodhouse
> >
> > wrote:
> > > FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of
> >
> > picking up on the
> >
> > > relevant details. It might be useful to think of
> >
> > it this way: Kernel
> >
> > > keeps track of session specific state (such as
> >
> > characteristics of the
> >
> > > current output device) using various standard
> >
> > variables in the process
> >
> > > symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables
> >
> > include DUZ (who's signed
> >
> > > in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue
> >
> > with IOSL was
> >
> > > secondary (having to do with checking to see if
> >
> > the error message will
> >
> > > fit on the current screen/page). A good technique
> >
> > (if the error is
> >
> > > logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack
> >
> > dump, so that you can
> >
> > > trace your way back to the ultimate source of the
> >
> > trouble.
> >
> > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > I would like to know how to chase this down
> >
> > for future reference.
> >
> > > > Am I on the
> > > >
> > > > > right track and now what?  How do I find out
> >
> > more about IOSL?
> >
> > > > >  This is what I did so far:
> > > > >
> > > > > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the
> >
> > routine DDSU.m.   the
> >
> > > > line with
> > > >
> > > > > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are
> >
> > 149-159 and there were no
> >
> > > > line wraps
> > > >
> > > > > above to screw things up that I could see.  It
> >
> > seems that WR+32 is
> >
> > > > probably
> > > >
> > > > > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR
> >
> > as 1, correct?
> >
> > > > Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR.
> >
> > (WR counts as WR+0)
> >
> > > > to see the line directly, you can just type:
> > > > MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
> > > >  . X DDSID
> > > >
> > > > which explains the headache, since it is an
> >
> > Xecute command on the
> >
> > > > local
> > > > variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).
> >
> >   As you can see in
> >
> > > > your
> > > > code fragment below, the variable IOSL
> >
> > (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> >
> > > > is
> > > > only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable
> >
> > DDS is defined, either
> >
> > > > with
> > > > sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or
> >
> > 11 (Self,
> >
> > > > SubnodesOnly,
> > > > Self+Subnodes)
> > > >
> > > > This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it
> >
> > depends on the
> >
> > > > late-bound
> > > > value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to
> >
> > find out the problem
> >
> > > > is to
> > > > use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after
> >
> > you see the error.
> >
> > > > >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> > > > >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> > > > >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> > > > >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> > > > >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> > > > >  . N DDH
> > > > >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K
> >
> > DDSID(1)
> >
> > > > >  . S Y=A4
> > > > >  . S:$D(DDS)
> >
> > DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> >
> > > > >  . X DDSID
> > > > >  Q
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the
> >
> > routine,and gives me a
> >
> > > > value, so I
> > > >
> > > > > assume it is the undefined global variable.
> >
> > This is immediately
> >
> > > > after I
> > > >
> > > > > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes
> >
> > the local variables,
> >
> > > > correct?
> > > >
> > > > > GTM>W IOSL
> > > > > 24
> > > > >
> > > > >  I asked for that section in the global, I
> >
> > think.
> >
> > > > > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
>
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
>
> > > > > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > > > > Select OPTION: ^
> > > > > GTM>D Q^DI
> > > > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST
> >
> > FILE ATTRIBUTES
> >
> > > > >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > > >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > > >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > > > > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > > > > Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> > > > > Go to field

Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Do you have a path to mupip defined in your environment variables?

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 04:51 pm, Martinelli, Richard wrote:
> I had Vista up and running and had been working with CPRS,  getting
> the PC to communicate with the Vista server last Friday.  Over the weekend
> the server lost power and now each time I try to work within GTM I get the
> message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database
> /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on cluster node Vista At M
> source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"
>
> I have searched the list and found a very similar question from Michael
> Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned, entering the command:
> mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and I get a response from
> mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword encountered.  In the past
> I have also tried to run the mupip command when I was finished running
> MUMPS as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never executed successfully,
> always issuing the same error of INVCMD.
>
> Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm doing wrong with this
> command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can anyone help another
> newbie trying to establish a Vista system.
>
>
> Richard Martinelli
> CDVA
> (916) 653-2395

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It will need to go in the .bashrc which is what is used, at least in some 
distros, when you bring up a terminal window and the .bash_profile is used 
when you ssh in, etc.


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:58 pm, Martinelli, Richard wrote:
> Thanks Kevin.
>
> I place the changes you suggested (making the necessary directory changes)
> in the /home/vista/.bash_profile file, but still have the same error
> messages appear when trying to execute mupip.  I also placed the changes in
> the root bash_profile. Is there another area that I should place these
> environmental variables?
>
> As you probably guessed, I have not worked with Linux before so I'm limping
> along.
>
> Richard Martinelli
> CDVA
> (916) 653-2395
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:04 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip
>
>
> The biggest problem I had when I was getting this
> running, was to get all the environmental variables
> correct.  Here is my setup.  I have a shell script
> named "rundown".  Here it is:
>
> . /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
> #-
> echo "Running down database..."
> /usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -reg "*"
>
>
> And here is the file that sets my variables:
>
> #12-14-2004 --moved exports into runvista script
> #4-12-05 Trying to make a unified environmental setup
> script
>
> #-
> export m2web="/usr/local/m2web"
>
> export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
> export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
> export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
> export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
> export vista_home=$gtm_vista
>
> export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
> $m2web/o($m2web/w)"  #//kt
> # export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"
>
> export EDITOR="vim"
> PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
>
> #-
> echo " "
> echo " "
> echo "-"
> echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
> echo
> echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
> echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
> echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
> echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
> echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
> echo "vista_home="vista_home
> echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
> echo " "
> #-
>
>
> Hope that helps.
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> --- "Martinelli, Richard"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had Vista up and running and had been working with
> > CPRS, finely getting
> > the PC to communicate with the Vista server last
> > Friday.  Over the weekend
> > the server lost power and now each time I try to
> > work within GTM I get the
> > message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing
> > database
> > /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on
> > cluster node Vista At M
> > source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"
> >
> > I have searched the list and found a very similar
> > question from Michael
> > Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned,
> > entering the command:
> > mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and
> > I get a response from
> > mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword
> > encountered.  In the past
> > I have also tried to run the mupip command when I
> > was finished running MUMPS
> > as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never
> > executed successfully, always
> > issuing the same error of INVCMD.
> >
> > Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm
> > doing wrong with this
> > command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can
> > anyone help another
> > newbie trying to establish a Vista system.
> >
> >
> > Richard Martinelli
> > CDVA
> > (916) 653-2395
>
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
The part you have done is the easy part because there are instructions for 
most of that.  Now comes the hard part.

Kevin, has all of the stuff on your pages been moved to the wiki as well?  IT 
is far from perfect, but it is something!

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:54 pm, Ewaen Okao wrote:
> Thanks Kevin
> Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe and it connected to the
> servewr with no errors. Now that I have the VistA installed and the
> CPRSChart.exe running. I have no idea what next to do.
> will like to have a test enrollement and eligibilty verification setup, can
> VistA do this ? Also how do I populate the patient, physcians etc list
> Any suggestions on what next to do
> Phew this is hard!!
> Ewaen
>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client Incompatiblity
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>
> You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS to
> run.  Look here:
>
> http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
>
> Kevin
>
> --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> >
> > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server
> > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no longer
> > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> > install document.
> >
> > However when I log in there is a message that
> > appears. it is as follows
> >
> > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to this
> > version.
> >
> > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> >
> > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another
> > error message appears, this error is as follows:
> >
> > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > List index out of bounds (0)
> >
> > Any advice anyone.
> >
> > Ewaen Okao
>
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[Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Hi,

  I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
  the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
ZSHOW (which defaults to ZSHOW "S" to dump the stack - there are several 
options of things to show).

Regards
-- Bhaskar

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Nancy Anthracite
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question because it is revealing of more 
than just my ignorance.

How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your refer to is the one seen in 
D ^XTER?

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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
I have used SuSE Linux 9.x quite successfully, and liked it.  I still have it 
on a partition on my work laptop.  However, for my use as well as at home, I 
have switched to one or another flavor of Debian GNU/Linux.  The package 
management just beats anything I have used from either Red Hat (I last used 
RH9) and SuSE (I last used SL 9.2).

-- One with a name beginning with B

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Nancy Anthracite
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 11:53 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine?  If 
no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux version.

Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions.  It have been thinking that might 
be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a 
practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it will 
have support guaranteed to be available. 

Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a 
"bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name 
beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.) 

Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you 
can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version. 

Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available to 
a large enterprise for the other distros.

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote:
> Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a
> lot of stuff yesterday like:
>
> 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso
> 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz
> 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso
>
> I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing.
> (Linux is not my strong point)
> I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use.
>
> If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please
> elaborate as much as you want to ;)
>
> Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA
> files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alberto Odor, MD
> Mexico City
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Mark is right.  VistA on GT.M will run on just about any contemporary release 
of just about any major Linux distribution.  The only dependencies are glibc 
and libncurses.

Distro wars are fun, though.  Not unlike a good pillow fight where nobody gets 
hurt and everybody has a grand time!

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 12:19 PM
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
No offense, but Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux.  The Fedora Core 2 
distribution is still supported and there is nothing wrong with it.  I run 
GT.M on my old Red Hat 9 box without a problem 466 Celeron with 512 RAM.

I run "bleeding edge" Fedora Core 3 servers without a hitch.  I haven't lost 
much blood running Red Hat/Fedora.  But this isn't the place for distro wars.  
If you are running a machine with a recent version of the Linux kernel on it, 
chances are you can run GT.M and VistA.  It doesn't matter which distribution 
of Linux you are running.

Go to the Wiki young man, read the wonderful works of Nancy, Kevin 
Toppenberg and my little howto on getting GT.M on Linux going.  After 
getting everything installed you will have some different questions.

Welcome to the incredible journey.. that never ends. now where is my 
Mumps reference book... 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse

I assume glibc is simply the C runtime?

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On May 25, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote:

Mark is right.  VistA on GT.M will run on just about any  
contemporary release of just about any major Linux distribution.   
The only dependencies are glibc and libncurses.


Distro wars are fun, though.  Not unlike a good pillow fight where  
nobody gets hurt and everybody has a grand time!


-- Bhaskar





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RE: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
At least with VistA on GT.M, I am not aware of any reason not to have people 
sign in with their own Linux user ids.

-- Bhaskar

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Greg Woodhouse
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 4:42 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database
Oh...I completely agree that wonderful things can be made in M (or in
Java, or in Python, or ...) Really, I think M is quite a remarkable
language. My point was not to disparage it at all.

BTW,

Normal setup for a VistA system is to have a single (Linux) user that
everyone uses when the sign on. In principle, if everyone signed in as
themselves, then finer grained access control at the OS level should be
a possibility.

--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree.  But this is not to say that wonderful things
> can't be made with M.  One just has to work harder to
> be careful.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I may be misunderstanding something, but isn't the
> > main problem that there 
> > is no way to force encapsulation in Mumps.  Even if
> > developers create well 
> > designed public entry points/API's for a package, it
> > is always possible for 
> > a Mumps programmer to bypass the official method for
> > using the entry points 
> > for a package.  It seems the problem is inherent to
> > Mumps, not VistA.
> > Jim Gray
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Gregory Woodhouse"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating
> > the database
> > 
> > 
> > > You're absolutely right. There are many serious
> > problems with VistA  as it 
> > > exists today, of which this is but one. What I
> > find incredibly 
> > > frustrating (not to mention foolish) is that in
> > the name of advancing 
> > > VistA we so often turn a blind eye to these types
> > of issues, or even  deny 
> > > that they are real problems. I can understand not
> > wanting to see  it 
> > > abandoned, but ignoring issues such as this is not
> > the right way  to 
> > > advance the technology. I believe we would be much
> > better off  developing 
> > > new modules that build on what we've learned from
> > VistA  (and that's a 
> > > LOT) and which interoperate with the existing
> > product  to the extent that 
> > > is possible. Unfortunately, this is an approach 
> > that tends to be 
> > > dismissed out of hand as being nothing more than a
> >  euphemistic way of 
> > > speaking of wholesale abandonment of the
> > technology.
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Gregory Woodhouse
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask
> > the right question."  --  
> > > S. Barry Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 24, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Toppenberg
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I hear you.  My point, though, is not that
> > tedious
> > >> work is necessary.  But rather that one has a
> > fragile
> > >> system indeed if one rouge programmer can cause
> > havok.
> > >>  When I work with the Microsoft Word OLE/COM
> > object,
> > >> there is NOTHING that I can do to that code that
> > will
> > >> harm that code.  *IT* controls what happens
> > within its
> > >> boundries/domain/module.
> > >>
> > >> VistA/M seems to have essentially two levels of
> > >> security.  Programmer level, and then user level.
> > >> Once someone has programmer access, they can do
> > >> ANYTHING.  This can be good and bad.
> > >>
> > >> I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that
> > >> programming with other structured languages was
> > like
> > >> holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday
> > >> social.  While M was like having sex with your
> > best
> > >> friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle. 
> > i.e.
> > >> wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun.
> > >>
> > >> LOL!
> > >>
> > >> Kevin
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
I don't quite understand why it is complaining, e.g., on my laptop:

bhaskark ~/demo 11:55pm 1008: mupip rundown -file mumps.dat
%GTM-I-MUFILRNDWNSUC, File mumps.dat successfully rundown

Might there be an unprintable control character somewhere in your command?

-- Bhaskar

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Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 4:51 PM
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Subject:[Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip
I had Vista up and running and had been working with CPRS, finely
getting the PC to communicate with the Vista server last Friday.  Over
the weekend the server lost power and now each time I try to work within
GTM I get the message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database
/home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on cluster node Vista At M
source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"

  
I have searched the list and found a very similar question from Michael
Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned, entering the command:
mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and I get a response
from mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword encountered.  In
the past I have also tried to run the mupip command when I was finished
running MUMPS as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never executed
successfully, always issuing the same error of INVCMD.

Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm doing wrong with
this command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can anyone help
another newbie trying to establish a Vista system.


Richard Martinelli 
CDVA 
(916) 653-2395 




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RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I did not put them in the .bash_profile on the advice
of some on this list.  I can't remember the exact
reason now.  Instead, the variables are temporarily
setup while running the script.  Then they are dumped
afterwards.  I think it gives one more control.  

I don't know why you are getting your error.  Why
don't you modify my script to your situation by having
it print out the relevent environmental variables and
then have it perform the mupip command.  Make sure all
the paths in my script match the proper paths on your
system.

Then post a screen log of the entire process.  And
maybe we can get our GT.M guru (Bhaskar) to comment.

Kevin

--- "Martinelli, Richard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Kevin.
> 
> I place the changes you suggested (making the
> necessary directory changes)
> in the /home/vista/.bash_profile file, but still
> have the same error
> messages appear when trying to execute mupip.  I
> also placed the changes in
> the root bash_profile. Is there another area that I
> should place these
> environmental variables?
> 
> As you probably guessed, I have not worked with
> Linux before so I'm limping
> along. 
> 
> Richard Martinelli
> CDVA
> (916) 653-2395
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Toppenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:04 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip
> 
> 
> The biggest problem I had when I was getting this
> running, was to get all the environmental variables
> correct.  Here is my setup.  I have a shell script
> named "rundown".  Here it is:
> 
> . /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
> #-
> echo "Running down database..."
> /usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -reg "*"
> 
> 
> And here is the file that sets my variables:
> 
> #12-14-2004 --moved exports into runvista script
> #4-12-05 Trying to make a unified environmental
> setup
> script
> 
> #-
> export m2web="/usr/local/m2web"
> 
> export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
> export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
> export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
> export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
> export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
> export vista_home=$gtm_vista
> 
> export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
> $m2web/o($m2web/w)"  #//kt
> # export gtmroutines="$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r
> $gtm_vista/r $gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()"
> 
> export EDITOR="vim"
> PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
> 
> #-
> echo " "
> echo " "
> echo "-"
> echo "FYI, here are relevant defined variables:"
> echo
> echo "gtm_dist="$gtm_dist
> echo "gtm_log="$gtm_log
> echo "gtm_vista="$gtm_vista
> echo "gtm_vista_prod="$gtm_vista_prod
> echo "gtmgbldir="$gtmgbldir
> echo "vista_home="vista_home
> echo "gtmroutines="$gtmroutines
> echo " "
> #-
> 
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Martinelli, Richard"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I had Vista up and running and had been working
> with
> > CPRS, finely getting
> > the PC to communicate with the Vista server last
> > Friday.  Over the weekend
> > the server lost power and now each time I try to
> > work within GTM I get the
> > message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing
> > database
> > /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on
> > cluster node Vista At M
> > source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"
> >   
> > I have searched the list and found a very similar
> > question from Michael
> > Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned,
> > entering the command:
> > mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat
> and
> > I get a response from
> > mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword
> > encountered.  In the past
> > I have also tried to run the mupip command when I
> > was finished running MUMPS
> > as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never
> > executed successfully, always
> > issuing the same error of INVCMD.
> > 
> > Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what
> I'm
> > doing wrong with this
> > command, it's like it cannot find the command. 
> Can
> > anyone help another
> > newbie trying to establish a Vista system.
> > 
> > 
> > Richard Martinelli
> > CDVA
> > (916) 653-2395
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo 
with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much.  Please 
ask me for a copy of the logo.

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!!  I noticed the powered 
by GT.M also. ; )

I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s).

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Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
No, I haven't moved my stuff yet.  I am trying to
figure out if I can upload straight html files into
the wikki.  If not, there will be a lot of cut-n-paste
with lots of reformatting needed.

For Ewaen, my other site was www.geocities.com/kdtop3
I can't remember if you have seen that or not.

Kevin

--- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The part you have done is the easy part because
> there are instructions for 
> most of that.  Now comes the hard part.
> 
> Kevin, has all of the stuff on your pages been moved
> to the wiki as well?  IT 
> is far from perfect, but it is something!
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:54 pm, Ewaen Okao wrote:
> > Thanks Kevin
> > Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe
> and it connected to the
> > servewr with no errors. Now that I have the VistA
> installed and the
> > CPRSChart.exe running. I have no idea what next to
> do.
> > will like to have a test enrollement and
> eligibilty verification setup, can
> > VistA do this ? Also how do I populate the
> patient, physcians etc list
> > Any suggestions on what next to do
> > Phew this is hard!!
> > Ewaen
> >
> > Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client
> Incompatiblity
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> >
> > You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS
> to
> > run.  Look here:
> >
> >
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> > >
> > > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to
> server
> > > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no
> longer
> > > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> > > install document.
> > >
> > > However when I log in there is a message that
> > > appears. it is as follows
> > >
> > > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to
> this
> > > version.
> > >
> > > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> > >
> > > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart
> another
> > > error message appears, this error is as follows:
> > >
> > > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > > List index out of bounds (0)
> > >
> > > Any advice anyone.
> > >
> > > Ewaen Okao
> >
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RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Yes

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gregory Woodhouse
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 11:33 PM
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
I assume glibc is simply the C runtime?

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On May 25, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote:

> Mark is right.  VistA on GT.M will run on just about any  
> contemporary release of just about any major Linux distribution.   
> The only dependencies are glibc and libncurses.
>
> Distro wars are fun, though.  Not unlike a good pillow fight where  
> nobody gets hurt and everybody has a grand time!
>
> -- Bhaskar
>



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
I meant that I don't quite understand why it is complaining on your PC - it 
works on my laptop.


-Original Message-
From:   Bhaskar, KS on behalf of Bhaskar, KS
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 11:57 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:RE: [Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip
I don't quite understand why it is complaining, e.g., on my laptop:

bhaskark ~/demo 11:55pm 1008: mupip rundown -file mumps.dat
%GTM-I-MUFILRNDWNSUC, File mumps.dat successfully rundown

Might there be an unprintable control character somewhere in your command?

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Martinelli, Richard
Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 4:51 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:[Hardhats-members] Trouble with mupip
I had Vista up and running and had been working with CPRS, finely
getting the PC to communicate with the Vista server last Friday.  Over
the weekend the server lost power and now each time I try to work within
GTM I get the message: "%GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database
/home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat. Must be rundown on cluster node Vista At M
source location GROUP+2^ZTMKU"

  
I have searched the list and found a very similar question from Michael
Quattlebaum. I followed the procedures mentioned, entering the command:
mupip rundown -file /home/vista/2.5/g/mumps.dat and I get a response
from mupip of: "%GTM-E-INVCMD, Invalid command keyword encountered.  In
the past I have also tried to run the mupip command when I was finished
running MUMPS as mupip rundown -r "*", however, it has never executed
successfully, always issuing the same error of INVCMD.

Where is this command issued?  I cannot see what I'm doing wrong with
this command, it's like it cannot find the command.  Can anyone help
another newbie trying to establish a Vista system.


Richard Martinelli 
CDVA 
(916) 653-2395 





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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Hi,

  Adding my $0.02... in the "distro wars".

  I agree with the other seasoned Linuxers in that it doesn't
  really matter what distribution you use. Most all of them are
  good (or better) than others in some way.

  If you are a newbie PLEASE do not be distressed by those
  that advocate one distro over another.  Except for things like
  system adminstration level stuff... they all work well (but please
  use a recent one, as about 6-8 years ago, it was a bit bumpy as
  we converted to ELF and glibc).

  Now, a recommendation, if you are new, consider whether or not
  you might want to purchase support (e.g. some one you can call
  in the middle of the night because your system stopped working
  and you have exhausted your knowledge but the system MUST
  be up!).

  If you fall into the "it must be up" then I'd encourage you to build
  into your budget a maintenance plan for your hardware, your OS
  and your MUMPS environment.

  If you do decide to use Linux, pick a maintenance vendor that will
  support whatever distribution you choose (this need not be Red Hat
  nor SuSE as I am sure that you can find someone willing to support
  most any distribution for a suitable annual/monthly fee. If DR (Disaster
  Recovery) is important to your site, consider whether or not you are
  going to do that "in-house" or with someone like SunGuard.  If you
  go with a commercial DR house, then you need to check out the
  costs associated with your hardware choice and connectivity needs
  (to the DR site).

  Relative to the MUMPS vendor, it is fine to play with GT.m or Cache
  on a PC-class box.  BUT if my business depended on the system 
  being up, I'd talk to Bhaskar or InterSystems about a support contract
  for my system.  When the system *has* to be "up"... you are increasing
  the risk of failure.

  One thing nice about the stack that is used by most here (Linux/GT.m/Cache)
  is that it all moves well to a commercial OS (e.g. AIX) nicely... but this
  option will cost you money, but it is legitimate and should be considered
  if the scale of the installation demands it.

  IMO, high-end x86 boxes are almost as good as the "big" boxes, and, if
  possible, I'll stick with Linux... but if not, there are good options that are
  completely compatible (if the scripts are written correctly).  For example,
  my Linux scripts run without modification on Tru64, HP-UX, AIX and Linux...
  with care, yours can too.  Then you don't have to worry about some of
  these things.

  As an aside, I'd like to suggest that we (as a community) work on defining
  a "VSB" VistA Standard Base which can be implemented, even on systems
  that do not have filesystems (e.g. HP OpenVMS and Microsoft Windows),
  or atleast follow the same pattern. Right now too many flavors of where 
  things are installed exist, which makes .profile (or .bashrc) settings error
  prone.  (Let's move that topic to another conversation).

Cheers,
  --ldl
On 5/25/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I assume glibc is simply the C runtime?
> 
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right question."
> -- S. Barry Cooper
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote:
> 
> > Mark is right.  VistA on GT.M will run on just about any
> > contemporary release of just about any major Linux distribution.
> > The only dependencies are glibc and libncurses.
> >
> > Distro wars are fun, though.  Not unlike a good pillow fight where
> > nobody gets hurt and everybody has a grand time!
> >
> > -- Bhaskar
> >
> 


-- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Usha
When I look at my DATA DICTIONARY entry, this is what I get

GTM>d Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
 START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST// CERTIFICATION
Go to field:
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
   MAY 26,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:54:31
PAGE 1
STORED IN ^VA(200,  (150 ENTRIES)   SITE: HUIVISTA3   UCI: ROU,ROU (VERSION
8.0)


DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE

---

200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475

  DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties
in
which the practitioner is Board Certified.






200,747.6 BOARD ELIGIBLE QAR4;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07476
 (Add New Entry without Asking)

  DESCRIPTION:  If this applicant is eligible to complete
specialty board exams, enter the area of
specialty.


200.07476,2 VERIFICATION   0;3 SET

  '1' FOR LETTER FROM TRAINING DIRECTOR;
  '2' FOR LETTER FROM SPECIALTY BOARD;
...

Is it that my global is corrupted? How can I rectify it?

Regards
Usha
- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error


> I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.  Am I on
the
> right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
>
>  This is what I did so far:
>
> I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the line
with
> the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line
wraps
> above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is
probably
> line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
>
>  W DDH(A0,A4)
>  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
>  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
>  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
>  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
>  . N DDH
>  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
>  . S Y=A4
>  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
>  . X DDSID
>  Q
>
>
> IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value,
so I
> assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I
> started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct?
>
> GTM>W IOSL
> 24
>
>  I asked for that section in the global, I think.
>
> GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
>
> Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
>
> **
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> Select OPTION: ^
> GTM>D Q^DI
> VA FileMan 22.0
> Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
>  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
>   Select SUB-FILE:
> Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> Go to field:
> DEVICE:   TELNET
> STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
>MAY 25,[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]:04:05
PAGE
> 1
> STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI: VAH,ROU
(VERSION
> 8.0)
>
> DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> --
-
>
> 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475
>
>   DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter specialties
in
> which the practitioner is Board Certified.
>
> 200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN UNDEFINED FILE
**
>(Multiply asked)
>  LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
> HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
>   practitioner is Board Certified.
> DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter
specialties
> in
>   which the practitioner is Board
Certified.
> CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
> 1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",
> $E(X,1,30),DA)="
> "
> 2)= K
^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","B",$E(X,1,30),DA)
>
>
> 200.07475,1 DATE 0;2 DATE
>
> INPUT TRANSFORM:S %DT="E" D IN^QARVER

Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki Woes - Spam Protection Filter

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Wiki woes persist.  I just made a new account and tried to edit a page and got 
the Spam Filter.  Maybe that is because I guess I couldn't remember my user 
name and password - bad me - and I tried to go right back in.? 

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 04:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm sorry my anti-spam measures affected your work.
> Please try to save now that I've changed the regex to not be so "tight".
>
> David
>
> > I logged into the Wiki today and tried to make some edits to some of the
> > do= cs=20
> > and I was greeted with a friendly spam protection filter error message.
> >
> > Spam protection filter
> > =46rom OpenVistA Wiki
> >
> > The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is
> > probabl= y=20
> > caused by a link to an external site.
> >
> > You might want to check the following regular expression for patterns
> > that = are=20
> > currently blocked:
> >
> > =2E22.=20
> >
> > Help, I can't save my changes! and no I am not linking to an
> > external=20 site.
> >
> > It is tripping up on the following line in my content.
> >
> > VA FileMan V.22.0
> >
> > =2D-=20
> > Mark Street, RHCE
> > http://www.oswizards.com
> > =2D-
> > Key fingerprint =3D 3949 39E4 6317 7C3C 023E  2B1F 6FB3 06E7 D109 56C0
> > GPG key http://www.oswizards.com/pubkey.asc
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and is 
posted under VistAWeb.  HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in 
caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip .

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
>   the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.

-- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Bhaskar,

  Is that "Powered by GT.M" on Ed's nameless box official? or
  is that something he just did?

  Please attach the official logo to a reply.  I think we'd all like it!

Cheers,
  --ldl
On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo 
> with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much.  Please 
> ask me for a copy of the logo.
> 
> -- Bhaskar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street
> Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
> Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!!  I noticed the powered
> by GT.M also. ; )
> 
> I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s).
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Cameron's suggestion of re-installing the file from a KIDS build is  
probably your safest course.

===
Gregory Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his  
forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli




On May 25, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Usha wrote:


When I look at my DATA DICTIONARY entry, this is what I get

GTM>d Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
 START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST// CERTIFICATION
Go to field:
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
   MAY  
26,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:54:31

PAGE 1
STORED IN ^VA(200,  (150 ENTRIES)   SITE: HUIVISTA3   UCI: ROU,ROU  
(VERSION

8.0)


DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
-- 
--

---

200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple  
#200.07475


  DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter  
specialties

in
which the practitioner is Board  
Certified.







200,747.6 BOARD ELIGIBLE QAR4;0 POINTER Multiple  
#200.07476

 (Add New Entry without Asking)

  DESCRIPTION:  If this applicant is eligible to  
complete
specialty board exams, enter the  
area of

specialty.


200.07476,2 VERIFICATION   0;3 SET

  '1' FOR LETTER FROM TRAINING  
DIRECTOR;

  '2' FOR LETTER FROM SPECIALTY BOARD;
...

Is it that my global is corrupted? How can I rectify it?

Regards
Usha
- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error



I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.   
Am I on



the


right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?

 This is what I did so far:

I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.
the line



with

the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no  
line



wraps


above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is


probably


line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?

 W DDH(A0,A4)
 I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
 . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
 . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
 . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
 . N DDH
 . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
 . S Y=A4
 . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
 . X DDSID
 Q


IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a  
value,



so I

assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately  
after I
started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables,  
correct?


GTM>W IOSL
24

 I asked for that section in the global, I think.

GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"

Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:

**
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
Select OPTION: ^
GTM>D Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
 START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
  Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST// Certification
Go to field:
DEVICE:   TELNET
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
   MAY  
25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05



PAGE


1
STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI: VAH,ROU


(VERSION


8.0)

DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
- 
-



-



200,747.5 CERTIFICATION  QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple  
#200.07475


  DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter  
specialties



in

which the practitioner is Board  
Certified.


200.07475,.01   CERTIFICATION  0;1 POINTER ** TO AN  
UNDEFINED FILE



**


   (Multiply asked)
 LAST EDITED:  FEB 01, 1991
HELP-PROMPT:  Enter the specialties in which the
  practitioner is Board Certified.
DESCRIPTION:  This field allows you to enter


specialties


in
  which the practitioner is Board


Certified.


CROSS-REFERENCE:  200.07475^B
1)= S ^VA(200,DA(1),"QAR2","

Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Hi,

  What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and
  VistA (M) FOIA?

  Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL?  I looked
  under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere.

Cheers,
  --ldl

On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and is
> posted under VistAWeb.  HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in
> caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip .
> 
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >   I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
> >   the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.
> 
> --
> Nancy Anthracite
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Usha



The command shows no output
 
GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,*)
 
GTM>
Usha
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris 
  Richardson 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another 
  GTM error
  
  Usha;
   
     What you see there is an error 
  message that there was an attempt to access the data dictionary, at a subfile 
  of file 200, the first field of this subfile, but it seems to be 
  missing.  The error has occurred in routine, DDSU (Data Dictionary Setup, 
  I would guess without actually looking), at line, WR+32.  It looks like 
  not all of your data dictionary (^DD) is present.
   
    Try this and see if there is anything 
  there;
  >ZWR ^DD(200.07475,*)
   
     Best wishes;  
Chris
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Usha 
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:15 
AM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM 
error


Hi
 
While 
listing the fields of NEW PERSON file from FileMan, the following is 
displayed
 
   747.5    
CERTIFICATION%GTM-E-GVUNDEF, Global variable undefined: 
^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
    
At M source location WR+32^DDSU
 
Can 
anyone help?
 
Regards
Usha


RE: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Larry --

The Powered by GT.M logo is official.  For anyone that has a site powered by 
GT.M and wants to display the logo (with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com), 
please e-mail me and I'll send you the logo (that way I can keep track of where 
it is used).  I'll e-mail you one offline, Larry.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of LD "Gus" Landis
Sent:   Thu 5/26/2005 12:28 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Bhaskar,

  Is that "Powered by GT.M" on Ed's nameless box official? or
  is that something he just did?

  Please attach the official logo to a reply.  I think we'd all like it!

Cheers,
  --ldl
On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo 
> with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much.  Please 
> ask me for a copy of the logo.
> 
> -- Bhaskar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street
> Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
> Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!!  I noticed the powered
> by GT.M also. ; )
> 
> I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s).
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
On Thursday 26 May 2005 12:36 am, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and
>   VistA (M) FOIA?
>
>   Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL?  I looked
>   under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere.
>
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
>
> On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and
> > is posted under VistAWeb.  HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in
> > caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip .
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
> > >   the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.
> >
> > --
> > Nancy Anthracite
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Sorry. It is the same site with all of the OR_30_*.zip files.

ftp.va.gov/vista/Software


On Thursday 26 May 2005 12:36 am, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and
>   VistA (M) FOIA?
>
>   Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL?  I looked
>   under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere.
>
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
>
> On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and
> > is posted under VistAWeb.  HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in
> > caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip .
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
> > >   the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.
> >
> > --
> > Nancy Anthracite
> >
> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error

2005-05-25 Thread Usha
GTM>D ^XTER


In response to the DATE prompt you can enter:
 'S' to specify text to be matched in error or routine name


No error logged on 5/26/2005

Which date? > t-1
1 error logged on 5/25/2005
  1)  <(UNDEF)>PLBS+3^IMRUTST 10:14:31  ROU,ROU 5106  0

No screened error


Usha


- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error


> Frankly, I am very glad I asked this question because it is revealing of
more
> than just my ignorance.
>
> How do you dump the stack? And the error trap your refer to is the one
seen in
> D ^XTER?
>
> On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:23 am, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> > FWIW, I think you (Nancy) did a pretty good job of picking up on the
> > relevant details. It might be useful to think of it this way: Kernel
> > keeps track of session specific state (such as characteristics of the
> > current output device) using various standard variables in the process
> > symbol table. Particularly "famous" variables include DUZ (who's signed
> > in) and the IO* variables. In this case, the issue with IOSL was
> > secondary (having to do with checking to see if the error message will
> > fit on the current screen/page). A good technique (if the error is
> > logged in the error trap) is to look at the stack dump, so that you can
> > trace your way back to the ultimate source of the trouble.
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference.
> > >
> > > Am I on the
> > >
> > > > right track and now what?  How do I find out more about IOSL?
> > > >
> > > >  This is what I did so far:
> > > >
> > > > I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m.   the
> > >
> > > line with
> > >
> > > > the WR tag is 126.  The lines below are 149-159 and there were no
> > >
> > > line wraps
> > >
> > > > above to screw things up that I could see.  It seems that WR+32 is
> > >
> > > probably
> > >
> > > > line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct?
> > >
> > > Nancy, WR+32 is the line 32 lines later than WR. (WR counts as WR+0)
> > > to see the line directly, you can just type:
> > > MUMPS> WRITE $TEXT(WR+32^DDSU),!
> > >  . X DDSID
> > >
> > > which explains the headache, since it is an Xecute command on the
> > > local
> > > variable DDSID (which gets changed at run-time).   As you can see in
> > > your
> > > code fragment below, the variable IOSL (Input-Output-Screen-Length)
> > > is
> > > only referenced on line WR+31 if the variable DDS is defined, either
> > > with
> > > sub-nodes, or a value itself. $D(DDS)= 1 , 10 or 11 (Self,
> > > SubnodesOnly,
> > > Self+Subnodes)
> > >
> > > This kind of problem is hard to debug, since it depends on the
> > > late-bound
> > > value of a variable.  Usually, the only way to find out the problem
> > > is to
> > > use the ZWRITE DDSID command immediately after you see the error.
> > >
> > > >  W DDH(A0,A4)
> > > >  I $D(DDH("ID")) D  S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U
> > > >  . N DDD,DIY,DDSID
> > > >  . S DDSID=DDH("ID")
> > > >  . S:$D(DDH("ID",1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH("ID",1)
> > > >  . N DDH
> > > >  . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH("ID",1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1)
> > > >  . S Y=A4
> > > >  . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY>(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X
> > > >  . X DDSID
> > > >  Q
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a
> > >
> > > value, so I
> > >
> > > > assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately
> > >
> > > after I
> > >
> > > > started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables,
> > >
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > > GTM>W IOSL
> > > > 24
> > > >
> > > >  I asked for that section in the global, I think.
> > > >
> > > > GTM>ZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)
> > > > ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)="CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q"
> > > >
> > > > Then   I looked in the Data Dictionary:
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^
> > > > Select OPTION: ^
> > > > GTM>D Q^DI
> > > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > > > Select OPTION: 8  DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
> > > > Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1  LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
> > > >  START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON//
> > > >   Select SUB-FILE:
> > > > Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
> > > > Start with field: FIRST// Certification
> > > > Go to field:
> > > > DEVICE:   TELNET
> > > > STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE
> > > >MAY
> > >
> > > 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05  PAGE
> > >
> > > > 1
> > > > STORED IN ^VA(200,  (1154 ENTRIES)   SITE: CAMP MASTER   UCI:
> > >
> > > VAH,ROU (VERSION
> > >
> > > > 8.0)
> > > >
> > > > DATA  NAME  GLOBALDATA
> > > > ELEMENT   TITLE LOCATION  TYPE
> >
>
> --

Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Kevin,

  I'm not sure what wiki is in use... but generally HTML is
  not allowed (or maybe I should say "honored") in a wiki page..
  and the worldvista.org wiki is no exception.. See the following
  (offered as help for editing by "our" wiki)...

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing#Sections.2C_paragraphs.2C_lists_and_lines

Cheers,
  --ldl
On 5/25/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, I haven't moved my stuff yet.  I am trying to
> figure out if I can upload straight html files into
> the wikki.  If not, there will be a lot of cut-n-paste
> with lots of reformatting needed.
> 
> For Ewaen, my other site was www.geocities.com/kdtop3
> I can't remember if you have seen that or not.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The part you have done is the easy part because
> > there are instructions for
> > most of that.  Now comes the hard part.
> >
> > Kevin, has all of the stuff on your pages been moved
> > to the wiki as well?  IT
> > is far from perfect, but it is something!
> >
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:54 pm, Ewaen Okao wrote:
> > > Thanks Kevin
> > > Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe
> > and it connected to the
> > > servewr with no errors. Now that I have the VistA
> > installed and the
> > > CPRSChart.exe running. I have no idea what next to
> > do.
> > > will like to have a test enrollement and
> > eligibilty verification setup, can
> > > VistA do this ? Also how do I populate the
> > patient, physcians etc list
> > > Any suggestions on what next to do
> > > Phew this is hard!!
> > > Ewaen
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client
> > Incompatiblity
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS
> > to
> > > run.  Look here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> > > >
> > > > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to
> > server
> > > > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no
> > longer
> > > > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > > > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> > > > install document.
> > > >
> > > > However when I log in there is a message that
> > > > appears. it is as follows
> > > >
> > > > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > > > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > > > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to
> > this
> > > > version.
> > > >
> > > > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> > > >
> > > > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart
> > another
> > > > error message appears, this error is as follows:
> > > >
> > > > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > > > List index out of bounds (0)
> > > >
> > > > Any advice anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Ewaen Okao
> > >
> > > -
> > > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to
> > PCcalling worldwide with
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> >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Nancy,

  Thanks again!  I've gotta bookmark that!  For some reason
  when I ftp there I never "see" the path... Oh well.

Cheers,
  --ldl

On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry. It is the same site with all of the OR_30_*.zip files.
> 
> ftp.va.gov/vista/Software
> 
> 
> On Thursday 26 May 2005 12:36 am, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >   What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and
> >   VistA (M) FOIA?
> >
> >   Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL?  I looked
> >   under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   --ldl
> >
> > On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and
> > > is posted under VistAWeb.  HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in
> > > caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip .
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >   I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about
> > > >   the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nancy Anthracite
> > >
> > >
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> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
We are using the same wikki as your site is.  I was
worried about it not displaying HTML code.

Someday I'll work on it.

Kevin

--- "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
>   I'm not sure what wiki is in use... but generally
> HTML is
>   not allowed (or maybe I should say "honored") in a
> wiki page..
>   and the worldvista.org wiki is no exception.. See
> the following
>   (offered as help for editing by "our" wiki)...
> 
>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing#Sections.2C_paragraphs.2C_lists_and_lines
> 
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
> On 5/25/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > No, I haven't moved my stuff yet.  I am trying to
> > figure out if I can upload straight html files
> into
> > the wikki.  If not, there will be a lot of
> cut-n-paste
> > with lots of reformatting needed.
> > 
> > For Ewaen, my other site was
> www.geocities.com/kdtop3
> > I can't remember if you have seen that or not.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > The part you have done is the easy part because
> > > there are instructions for
> > > most of that.  Now comes the hard part.
> > >
> > > Kevin, has all of the stuff on your pages been
> moved
> > > to the wiki as well?  IT
> > > is far from perfect, but it is something!
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:54 pm, Ewaen Okao
> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Kevin
> > > > Downloaded the correct version of
> CPRSChart.exe
> > > and it connected to the
> > > > servewr with no errors. Now that I have the
> VistA
> > > installed and the
> > > > CPRSChart.exe running. I have no idea what
> next to
> > > do.
> > > > will like to have a test enrollement and
> > > eligibilty verification setup, can
> > > > VistA do this ? Also how do I populate the
> > > patient, physcians etc list
> > > > Any suggestions on what next to do
> > > > Phew this is hard!!
> > > > Ewaen
> > > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server
> /client
> > > Incompatiblity
> > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Reply-To:
> hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > >
> > > > You upgrade by getting a different version of
> CPRS
> > > to
> > > > run.  Look here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to
> > > server
> > > > > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no
> > > longer
> > > > > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > > > > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in
> the
> > > > > install document.
> > > > >
> > > > > However when I log in there is a message
> that
> > > > > appears. it is as follows
> > > > >
> > > > > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > > > > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > > > > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade
> to
> > > this
> > > > > version.
> > > > >
> > > > > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart
> > > another
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> > > > >
> > > > > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > > > > List index out of bounds (0)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?

2005-05-25 Thread LD \"Gus\" Landis
Bhaskar,

  Great!  When I use it, I'll post a note to you for your records.

Cheers,
  --ldl

On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry --
> 
> The Powered by GT.M logo is official.  For anyone that has a site powered by 
> GT.M and wants to display the logo (with a link to 
> http://www.sanchez-gtm.com), please e-mail me and I'll send you the logo 
> (that way I can keep track of where it is used).  I'll e-mail you one 
> offline, Larry.
> 
> Regards
> -- Bhaskar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of LD "Gus" Landis
> Sent:   Thu 5/26/2005 12:28 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc:
> Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
> Bhaskar,
> 
>   Is that "Powered by GT.M" on Ed's nameless box official? or
>   is that something he just did?
> 
>   Please attach the official logo to a reply.  I think we'd all like it!
> 
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
> On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo 
> > with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much.  
> > Please ask me for a copy of the logo.
> >
> > -- Bhaskar
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street
> > Sent:   Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Cc:
> > Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
> > Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!!  I noticed the 
> > powered
> > by GT.M also. ; )
> >
> > I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s).
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well it is hard.  But it took me at least 2 wks (and I
think longer) to get to your point.  So you are ahead
of schedule.

I think you need to now learn a little bit about
fileman, which is the database manager for VistA. 
This means working with VistA via a terminal for
awhile.  CPRS is really targeted for
clinician/providers.  Everything else needs a terminal
interface.

I would recommend getting starting by:
"do ^XUP"  (leave off quotes)
Enter your access code.  If you don't have one, follow
Nancy's instructions for creating a system manager.
When it asks for OPTION? enter "EVE" (again, no
quotes).
Then enter USER-->ADD
It will then ask for the name of the user to add etc.

You will need to learn about keys etc.

But play with this and see if you can add some users
to the system.

Kevin





--- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Kevin
> Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe and
> it connected to the servewr with no errors.
> Now that I have the VistA installed and the
> CPRSChart.exe running.
> I have no idea what next to do.
> will like to have a test enrollement and eligibilty
> verification setup, can VistA do this ?
> Also how do I populate the patient, physcians etc
> list
> Any suggestions on what next to do
> Phew this is hard!!
> Ewaen
>  
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client
> Incompatiblity
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS
> to
> run.  Look here:
> 
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> >  
> > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server
> > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no
> longer
> > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> > install document.
> >  
> > However when I log in there is a message that
> > appears. it is as follows
> >  
> > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to
> this
> > version.
> >  
> > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> >  
> > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another
> > error message appears, this error is as follows:
> >  
> > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > List index out of bounds (0)
> >  
> > Any advice anyone.
> >  
> > Ewaen Okao
> 
> 
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[Hardhats-members] What next?!

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well it is hard.  But it took me at least 2 wks (and I
think longer) to get to your point.  You seems to have
done it in just a few days. So you are ahead of
schedule!

I think you need to now learn a little bit about
fileman, which is the database manager for VistA. 
This means working with VistA via a terminal for
awhile.  CPRS is really targeted for
clinician/providers.  Everything else needs a terminal
interface.

Also, learning about the menu/option system in
invaluable.  I would recommend getting starting by:
"do ^XUP"  (leave off quotes)
Enter your access code.  If you don't have one, follow
Nancy's instructions for creating a system manager.
When it asks for OPTION? enter "EVE" (again, no
quotes).
Then enter USER, then ADD
It will then ask for the name of the user to add etc.

You will need to learn about keys etc.

But play with this and see if you can add some users
to the system.

Kevin

--- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Kevin
> Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe and
> it connected to the servewr with no errors.
> Now that I have the VistA installed and the
> CPRSChart.exe running.
> I have no idea what next to do.
> will like to have a test enrollement and eligibilty
> verification setup, can VistA do this ?
> Also how do I populate the patient, physcians etc
> list
> Any suggestions on what next to do
> Phew this is hard!!
> Ewaen
>  
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client
> Incompatiblity
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS
> to
> run.  Look here:
> 
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thank Lloyd and Nancy,
> >  
> > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to server
> > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no
> longer
> > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid
> > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the
> > install document.
> >  
> > However when I log in there is a message that
> > appears. it is as follows
> >  
> > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe
> > The server is running version 1.0.25.28
> > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to
> this
> > version.
> >  
> > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe?
> >  
> > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart another
> > error message appears, this error is as follows:
> >  
> > CPRS - Patient Chart
> > List index out of bounds (0)
> >  
> > Any advice anyone.
> >  
> > Ewaen Okao
> 
> 
>   
> -
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> worldwide with voicemail





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