Re: [Hardhats-members] Video Advice - SOON
Hi, I didn't even go that high (3CCD) and have been very pleased with my Panasonic PV-GS14. For me a very important feature of the camera is to have a "top loader". This way you can change tapes without having to take off all of the tripod mounting stuff... which would kill most presentations if you need to do a tape change during the talk. Also, it gives more opportunity to drop the equipment, work connections and connectors loose, etc... So, if you are buying, IMO you need: - Good optical zoom numbers (stay out of digital zoom settings while recording unless you absolutely have not choice) - Line in - Mic in - Top loading (or be able to change recording media withOUT taking off of the tripod/mount) - Video out is nice if you're recording to some other media (e.g. external DVD) Re: Knowing that Nancy is a gadget geek freak... FWIW, I bought mine at BestBuy *WITH* the service... and it has already paid off... but I've recorded many many hours (PyCON 2005, WorldVistA Boston, other lectures, etc... probably 100 or so tapes with quite a bit of transport)... You probably have time to run in and get one on the way there ;-) As Greg recommends, getting a house feed is wonderful... but beware to talk with the sound folks about whether it is a "line" or a "mic" feed. You won't get the recording as you expect if not matched. FWIW, having used Canon, Sony and Panasonic MiniDV... I'm currently *very* strongly pro Panasonic MiniDV cameras! Cheers, --ldl On 2/3/06, Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is extremely important that you get the best resolution you can afford, > because the quality of the master greatly impacts the quality of movies > compressed to a web streaming format. Also, if you can get the audio from > the instructor's microphone as a feed to the camera, that would make a big > difference. Less of the classroom noise to mask the instructor's words. > > Panasonic makes a very good MiniDV that has a true 3CCD system for > capturing vivid colors. It gets good reviews. Unfortunately, you don't > have time to get the great prices from the web from the likes of BuyDigitial > or BeachCamera (under $500 and no tax). > > http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Panasonic_PV_GS150_MiniDV_Digital_Camcorder,__7368169e: > > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Video Advice - SOON
Nancy, Hi8 beats the pants off of VHS. Unless you decide to buy a new camera (then MiniDV is a good format, I think), as long as you get the material off of the Hi8 tape onto a hard disk, etc... then the content can be morphed as needed. One format to have for sure is standard 'DVD' format. Cheers, --ldl On 2/3/06, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some of the GMU classes will be filmed and there is a definite willingness to > allow others to see this video, but believe it or not, they are going to be > filmed on VHS TAPE! I need advice on the best thing for me to use if I get a > consumer retail type camera that can be used to film these and then have that > posted for download and use by others on the web or by CD and cross-platform. > > I have a Hi8 camera. Would that be OK. > > The first class to be filmed is at 4:30 today, So I need advice quickly. > Can someone who knows their stuff about video formats, etc., please email me > and I will call them. > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?
Hi, Sounds like an opportunity for an SSVN to me. What is the "vox populi" on the notion of SSVNs anyway? Cheers, --ldl On 1/14/06, Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bhaskar wrote: > >Code specific to each MUMPS implementation should belong in the kernel, > >isolated from the applications. > > > >GT.M doesn't provide a function to stat a file. The two approaches > >would be to use ZSYstem to call a program like ls, stat or file, or to > >call a standard C library function to get the answer. > > This reminds me of what I think might be THE most elegant way to extend MUMPS > to a more > complete computing paradigm. Allow direct mapping of a global to a directory > of files such > that from the MUMPS side, a file could be treated simply as a global > variable, and from > the OS side, MUMPS data (some, not necessarily all) could be made directly > accessible to > other applications. > > When I was (prior to GT.M/Linux) actively seeking a way forward for MUMPS > development that > could avoid lock-in to proprietary databases and trying to find a way to have > the benefits > of MUMPS globals in other programming languages, it occurred to me that the > closest thing > to MUMPS globals outside of MUMPS is the file system provided by each OS. > > Both provide an ordered hierarchical collection of persistent shared named > values. MUMPS > globals are generally optimized more for speed of access to a larger tree of > data with > generally smaller data values, but the similarities seem amazingly close to > me. > > The primary differences are that > 1) files are essentially unlimited in size where MUMPS data values > generally have been constrained to a size of hundreds or perhaps > thousands of bytes. GT.M now allows local values up to one megabyte > but limits global values to blocks of 1KB up to 32KB (last I checked). > 2) Every file generally has individual access permissions but an individual > global reference generally does not. Some MUMPS implementations allow > individual globals to map to separate files while others allow ranges of > subscripts within a given global to be mapped to different files. > > Providing an optional globals model that simply maps a global to a directory > of a file > system would make the exchange of data with other applications simpler and > more uniform, A > MUMPS data file that could be mounted as a file system for some purposes > could provide a > potentially faster file system. > > --- > Jim Self > Systems Architect, Lead Developer > VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis > (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Using an external editor (e.g., vi) in Cache
Here is a quick hack that I used to "get off the ground" back in 2003. It was hacked to for Cache, so it needs tweaking (in the routine load part). Cheers, --ldl On 11/17/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if anyone has written code to invoke vi as routine editor in Cache > (over Unix rather than Windows, of course). A comparable problem for VMS > would be using %EDT/TPU. > > Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis zvi.ro Description: Binary data
Re: [Hardhats-members] Environment / directory structure for VistA/GT.M
Bhaskar, Good start. How about dubbing this "The VSB" for (VistA Standard Base) ala LSB (Linux Standard Base). Note: Don't know/care if we document the Cache stuff at this time, but I'd be happy to provide you with the specifics if you'd like. Your call. New section - part of 1.2 (or before 1.3.2) Re: Release Directories I would find it helpful to have a "top level picture" like: /opt/ cache-X.X.XX..X/ gtm_VX.X-/ mumpsv1_X_X_X/ (other infrastructure stuff, m2web?, apache?, etc) Family_Release_version/ (add standard template of directories here) Re: GT.M Release Directories Detail out the lower level items of what is under a GT.M release: /opt/ gtm_VX_X-/ ... Re: Cache Release Directories Detail out the lower level items of what is under a Cache release: /opt/ cache-X.X.XX..X/ X.X.XX..X_checksum.txt bom.txt cinstall cplatname dist/ kitlist prenotes.htm relnotes.htm rr_moved/ Re: VistA Release Directories You have something wrong with the markup in the fifth bullet. Have the VSB "picture": /opt/ FOIAVistA_20050825/ ... FOIAVistA_20051021/ ... LeonardoDaVistA_0.45/ ... with the necessary directories below it (g, o, r, etc.) If there is going to be coverage of Cache in this document, then having sections named "GT.M/VistA" and "Cache/VistA" would make sense as there are significant differences (although the same "pattern" should be used... one would be GT.M-ish the other Cache-ish). Re: GT.M/VistA routine path I think that more or less having a "full picture" of two/three "areas" would be very helpful. E.g. show how dev1 -> Integration -> ReleaseA for routine searches)... Given that , I see an opportinuty for a tool that does some comparison of which routines come from which environment (ala which(1), and also a "smart copy" routine that can use the same logic to create you a fully populated routine directory (with a log of which routine came from which source directory)... and can "migrate" changes "upward" from the development to the integration to the release area (with logs etc). Likewise a variant would work against Cache "RO" files. (I keep all of my routines, GT.M and Cache, in separately checkpointed files, one file per routine... have an "RO" splitter/combiner so that I can easily dump all in a single "RO" file, or take a collection of routines and make an "RO" file, somthing I don't have to do with GT.M, as all is separated already). Re: Another difference between GT.M and Cache With GT.M I have a single copy of the "release" per version of GT.M. With Cache, the "cinstall" script puts a copy of the "release" into the instance root... So for a Family_Release_version/ using the Cache engine, there is likely going to be a copy of the instance information there... Or alternatively, you could just have Family_Release_version/ setup as a namespace in some single copy instance of Cache. Just a note: I'm not really experienced in having fewer than 50 40GB (or several hundred 16GB, we also have about 1800 globals, recently down from about 3500) chunks to manage... I have little experience with Fileman, more with Epic Chronicles(Epic), both of which use strategies having only a few globals with lots of "partitioning" via "file" subscripts in the global)... so YMMV from my standard thinking. (We have about 1.5TB of M[UMPS] data). Cheers, --ldl On 11/16/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/738jk contains a (draft) specification for what I now > consider to be the best way to lay out environments and directories for > VistA/GT.M. What I did before was simpler, but not suitable for large > scale development by many people, such as the Greenbelt meeting. > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
Chris, Is there a standard place where these end up? TIA! Cheers, --ldl On 10/24/05, Chris Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, it hppened and it is recorded, but not uploaded yet. > > Will try to get to it tomorow evening. > > - Original Message - > From: "Maury Pepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call > > > Yes and I don't know. Check with Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: "chuck5566" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call > > > > Maury, > > Did the call happen? Is there a wav available? > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Maury Pepper wrote: > > > >> VistA Community Call Friday at NOON EDT. > >> > >> TOPICS: General VistA topics - your choice > >> > >> DATE: Friday, October 21 > >> TIME: 12:00 Noon EDT > >> DURATION: 1 hour. > >> > >> CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS > >>USA 866-483-4159 > >>Outside USA 706-634-0093 > >> > >> Conference ID Number: 5361311 > >> > >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >> Thanks to Hewlett-Packard and Sharon Mobley > >> for providing the teleconferencing facilities. > >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > >> Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > >> discussions, > >> and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > >> ___ > >> Hardhats-members mailing list > >> Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > >> > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M for Alpha/AXP available at Source Forge
Bhaskar, Congratulations! and a hearty THANK YOU to you and Fidelity! Cheers, --ldl On 10/21/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the first release of GT.M for Alpha/AXP at Source Forge > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm) under the GNU General > Public License (GPL - see > http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt). Fidelity plans to > follow up with the source code within the next few months. As was the > case with the release of GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux under GPL, we had to > develop procedures to convert from Fidelity's internal directory > structures to those more suited to Source Forge. This work will be > scheduled into the normal workflow of the developers and the source code > will be released when that is completed. Meanwhile, the binaries are > available for use. > > The GT.M Programmers Guide, Administration and Operations Guide, and > Messages and Recovery Procedures manual are available at the GT.M user > documentation site > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/user_doc.htm). > > Each package consists of two files, one is the main GT.M distribution. > The other is needed only for migrating databases to V5.0-000 from > earlier releases. Refer to the GT.M Database Migration technical > bulletin > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Database_Migration.html) > for details. > > We hope you find GT.M on Alpha/AXP to be useful. Please consider > funding GT.M work by purchasing support if you put it into production. > > -- Bhaskar > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] The VA ftp site is back up
Nancy, Good... I thought it was me... Now for some more "last minute packing" before I leave on the cruise!!! Chees, --ldl On 10/5/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, since I haven't tried connecting, it is not possible for me to > have had trouble connecting. Does it follow that (for me) it is still > down? > > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For those of you who may have had trouble connecting, it is up again. > > -- > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > === > Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > "Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries > would not have been made." > > -- Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Imaging Disk requirements?
> > That's four 250 gig hard drives at about $50 each (on sale). If the EHR/EMR means so little as this approach is seriously considered... why bother? I am unnerved by these discussions since, I thought, that these EHR/EMR things were supposed to be important. Just because one no longer needs to spend a bizillion mega-bucks for a few megabytes doesn't mean that such skimpy levels of technology should be touted as valid approaches. Maybe everyone else knows you are not serious, but I fear (because of the level of people I tend to work with) that there are readers that are thinking that this whole VistA thing can be done on little for nothing delivering everything. We have done so much with so little for so long that NOW WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WITH NOTHING! (There's only One that I know of that can do that, be even He had to speak it...) -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Document formats, licenses and copyrights
Gregory, GIF uses the patented (by Unisys) LZW compression algorithm (the Lempel-Ziv is not patented, but the Welch part is). Patented "format"s are the crux of the problem. Cheers, --ldl On 9/22/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, maybe I'm opening a can of worms here, but it's not entirely > clear to me that if I write an application to display or otherwise > process Word documents, I can legally distribute it? I note that the > GNU project carefully avoids the use of GIF images (and they even talk > about it on their web site). I am aware that the compression algorithm > is a special consideration here, but unless a format is explicitly > "open", is it even legal to develop and distribute software that uses > that format? > > > === > Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How about TeX/LaTeX?
Greg, If you have a Linux box, you likely have all you need. You may want to look at the lyx (lick) editor also as it is more or less a WYSIWYG that works in LaTeX (generally, I use raw LaTeX, or the SGML to LaTeX tools. If you get stuck send me private email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, check with the recipient as they may take DocBook XML (unless you're doing "hardcore" math, then LaTeX is likely the ticket). Cheers, --ldl On 9/22/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) and American > Mathematical Society (AMS) prefer (require?) that papers be submitted > in LaTeX format. I am especially interested in typesetting equations > (particularly logical symbols) and diagrams of automata, trees, graphs, > and the like. > > > === > Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > "Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries > would not have been made." > > -- Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES
Mike, Not only that, but you will have a true sense of the value you get should you choose to purchase the work or assistance later. One thing to keep in mind is that in some cases, "if you think it expensive to have a professional do the job, just try it with amateurs". What this can mean is that if you do decide to "roll your own", and then "get into trouble" or decide that you can't support yourself because it is distracting you from doing your job (e.g. patients are queueing up and the system is down)... you may have a higher price to pay because of the way you set things up. Then again, maybe not. Remember, have a "pilot", which is not "Production In Lieu Of Test". Cheers, --ldl On 9/22/05, Mike Schrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly! A more eloquent statement of my point. I like the neighbor > analogy, since this list serves that purpose admirably. So, I'm off to > configure Vista. > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES
Hi, It is my understanding that individuals cannot put something into the public domain themselves... the law is such that one cannot give up the rights to the rights... so, time has to be the worker of the magic (to points 1 and 2 below). If I were to try, I am merely "littering". A simple summary is that the GNU GPL specifically prohibits making anything GNU GPL licensed being made proprietary (e.g. secret), whereas the BSD license (and most others) allows such action. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html and http://copylaw.com/new_articles/PublicDomain.html I believe that the only way VOE additions can become public domain is if they are received by the VA, go through the VA acceptance/qa process, and are integrated into the VA FOIA by the VA, and then are released through the FOIA... Otherwise they remain "Class 3" software. It does not appear that CMS intends to be the source for VOE, as in their announcement, the have funded an alternative... see http://www.cms.hhs.gov/media/press/release.asp?Counter=1563 > > In addition, offices will generally need vendor support for installation, > configuration, and maintenance, similar to support with any other > electronic health record. To address this need, CMS has funded a > Vista-Office Vendor Support Organization, WorldVistA, to provide > training for vendors. The evaluation of these vendor services is an > important objective of the initial VOE release. > > During this initial evaluation period, the software will be available from > qualified vendors. Physicians and clinics that are interested in > participating in the program as an evaluation site, should visit > www.vista-office.org to learn more about this opportunity. More > information about the vendor training and a list of qualified vendors > can be found at www.worldvista.org. > Cheers, --ldl On 9/22/05, Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Definition: A public domain work is a creative work that is not protected by > copyright and which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that the > work is not protected include: > (1) the term of copyright for the work has expired; > (2) the author failed to satisfy statutory formalities to perfect the > copyright or > (3) the work is a work of the U.S. Government. > > (from: http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm) > > My understand of VOE (which could be very wrong) is that CMS is > developing it with the help of outside contributors. Because there are > outside contributors involved, it could be considered software that is > not a 'work of the U.S. Government' and not required to be under the > public domain. This last bit I am not clear on, but it does seem like > the intent is to release it into the public domain. > > --Todd > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
AIX On 8/31/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What else is commonly run on the PowerPC? > > === > Gregory Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Nothing is as powerful than an idea > whose time has come." > -- Victor Hugo > > > On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Roy Gaber wrote: > > > We must keep in mind that the installed base of non x86 systems > > will be > > supported for quite a while, so the port may still be practical. > > > > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] The new OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050825
Hi, Another "anomoly" that I noticed but didn't resolve was that when I went into Fileman: $ gtm GTM> S DUZ=1 GTM> D ^DI none of my typing was echoed. Cheers, --ldl On 8/31/05, Mark Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry and I were playing with this version of Vista/GT.M > OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050825.tgz > > It appears it used a default $home_vista, eventhough one was not setup > but it pointed to the GT.M directory versus the OpenVistA directory. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/openvista/gtm> /usr/local/gtm_V5.0-000/mumps -direct > > GTM>d ^%G > > Output device: : > > List ^?D > > Global Directory > > Global ^ > > start+1^%GSEL,%GTM-E-ZGBLDIRACC, Cannot access global > directory /home/mwd/openvista/gtm_V5.0-000/mump > s.gld. Cannot continue.,%SYSTEM-E-ENO2, No such file or directory > > List ^ > > > So we changed the gtmprofile from: > gtm_dist="/usr/local/gtm_V5.0-000"; export gtm_dist > gtmgbldir="mumps.gld"; export gtmgbldir > EDITOR="/bin/vi"; export EDITOR > gtmroutines=". $gtm_dist"; export gtmroutines > gtm="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct"; export gtm > mupip="$gtm_dist/mupip"; export mupip > lke="$gtm_dist/lke"; export lke > gde="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE"; export gde > dse="$gtm_dist/dse"; export dse > PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist > > > To: > gtm_dist="/usr/local/gtm_V5.0-000"; export gtm_dist > gtmgbldir="/usr/local/OpenVistA/g/mumps.gld"; export > gtmgbldir > gtm_vista="/usr/local/OpenVistA" ; export gtm_vista > EDITOR="/bin/vi"; export EDITOR > gtmroutines=". $gtm_dist"; export gtmroutines > alias gtm="$gtm_dist/mumps -direct" > alias gde="$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE" > PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist > > > We did this to: > 1. Setup a 'gtm_vista' and changed the global data directory to use > this > to be consistant with other names. (or we could setup a variable for > 'home_vista' as is in the global data directory.) > ** But the home_vista should probably get setup in the gtmprofile > and >the gtmcshrc. > 2. We setup aliases so we could use 'gtm' versus '$gtm' and removed > some > of the variables since they are the real names and in your path: >mupip, lke, dse > 3. We could also setup some wrapper scripts for gde and gtm to just > run mumps with the appropriate options (versus a alias). > We did manage to figure out how to change the global directory, below. > > But what would you recommend as the correct solution? Just changing > $home_vista. > > GDE> change -segment DEFAULT > GDE> show -segment DEFAULT > > *** SEGMENTS *** > Segment File (def ext: .dat)Acc > Typ Block Alloc Exten Options > > --- > DEFAULT $vista_home/g/mumps.dat > BG > DYN 4096 6 5000 GLOB=1024 > > LOCK= 40 > > RES = 0 > > GDE> change -segment DEFAULT -F=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.dat > GDE> show -segment DEFAULT > > *** SEGMENTS *** > Segment File (def ext: .dat)Acc > Typ Block Alloc Exten Options > > --- > DEFAULT $gtm_vista/g/mumps.dat > BG > DYN 4096 6 5000 GLOB=1024 > > LOCK= 40 > > RES = 0 > > Mark > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Accessing GT.M documentation at Source Forge
Bhaskar, So a "complete" set is: GTM_UNIX-Prog-Manual-4.4 GT.M V5.0-000 Release Notes GTM Database Migration GTM Long Names GTM Null Subscripts GTM Update Helper Processes GTM V5.0-000 Supplementary Information Cheers, --ldl On 6/9/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not in the near future, so I regret that said tree must die for V4.4. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > Bhaskar. > > > > Before killing a tree on 4.4... is there an expectation of releasing > > 5.0 documentation integrating the supplemental documentation? > > > > Cheers, > > --ldl > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Accessing GT.M documentation at Source Forge
Bhaskar. Before killing a tree on 4.4... is there an expectation of releasing 5.0 documentation integrating the supplemental documentation? Cheers, --ldl On 6/8/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GT.M V5.0-000 was released with six technical bulletins, as itemized > below. They were made available at the GT.M project page at Source > Forge (http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=11026 or go to > http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm and click on Docs) as well > as at the new GT.M documentation page > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/user_doc.htm). The > technical bulletins have hyperlinks between them, static, relative links > based on the file names. > > It appears that Source Forge renames files (actually assigns them > numbers) and therefore all inter-document hyperlinks are broken there. > Furthermore, it is not really possible to have linked documents since > the new name of a document's file is not known until after it is > uploaded. So, these hyperlinks between technical bulletins don't work > at Source Forge and cannot be made to work. However, they do work at > the GT.M documentation page. So, do please use the GT.M documentation > page, and as a bonus, the GT.M user manuals are also there and usable. > > Note that all technical bulletins are available at Source Forge, but you > will have to get to them from the Docs page - you can't follow links > from one document to another. Also, user manuals are also available > there, but must be downloaded to your computer. > > The technical bulletins are: > > GT.M V5.0-000 Release Notes > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_V5.0-000_Release_Notes.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28785&group_id=11026) > > GTM Database Migration > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Database_Migration.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28790&group_id=11026) > > GTM Long Names > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Long_Names.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28786&group_id=11026) > > GTM Null Subscripts > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Null_Subscripts.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28787&group_id=11026) > > GTM Update Helper Processes > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Update_Helper_Processes.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28788&group_id=11026) > > GTM V5.0-000 Supplementary Information > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_V5.0-000_Supplementary_Information.html > and > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28789&group_id=11026) > > Please allow me to emphasize that a database upgrade is required to > migrate a database from V4 to V5. It's simple and painless, and most of > the work can be done while applications run normally. But you need to > upgrade the database, and you need to read the GT.M Database Migration > technical bulletin to understand how. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available
Hi, Given the fact that the Cache, DSM and now GT.m have this functionality (and I hope that all of the implementations are functionally identical), this would be a good addition to the new edition of the M[UMPS] standard. Since it is done, there's not much need for much discussion, IMO. On 6/7/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>3. A new intrinsic function, $INCREMENT(glvn[,expr]), is provided to > >>atomically increment a global variable by a numeric value. -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available
THANKS BHaskar! Guess I won't diddle with FT02 tonight (as I was planning) ;-) Cheers, --ldl On 6/6/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GT.M V5.0-000 is now available. V5.0-000 is a major release of GT.M. The > fact that it has a new top level version number - V5 vs. V4 - means that > it has a new database format. There is significant new functionality as > well, as described in the V5.0-000 Release Notes > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_V5.0-000_Release_Notes.html). > > Even though a database format change affects every index and data block > in the database, GT.M V5.0-000 comes with an upgrade procedure that > operates mostly in parallel with normal application operation. Stand > alone access is required typically only for a few seconds. Note that > for applications deployed in a logical dual site configuration, the > upgrade can be accomplished with continuous application availability. > > The most significant enhancements in this release are as follows: > > 1. Transaction counts are increased from 32 bits to 64 bits. > > 2. M names can be up to 31 characters long. > > 3. A new intrinsic function, $INCREMENT(glvn[,expr]), is provided to > atomically increment a global variable by a numeric value. > > 4. Network services can now be written in GT.M and deployed under > inetd/xinetd. > > 5. On the secondary of an application deployed in a logical dual site > configuration, helper processes can now be used to speed the rate at > which updates can be committed to disk. > > 6. There is now an option for a database file to allow existing global > variable nodes with null subscripts but to prohibit setting/updating > global variables with null subscripts. > > 7. On OpenVMS, upper and lower case labels in M routines can be the > target of a call from an external C routine to an M routine. > > 8. GT.M traditionally collated a null subscript between numeric > subscripts and string subscripts. The M standard specifies that null > subscripts be collated before numeric subscripts. When a database file > is created, it can now be created to use either traditional GT.M > collation or M standard collation for null subscripts. > > Please see the announcement of the release > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/news/news_060605.htm). > > GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux used under the GNU General Public License (GPL) > can be downloaded from Source Forge > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm). Software for customers > who have purchased support can be downloaded from the GT.M FTP site. > > Please also visit the new documentation area in the GT.M project page > (http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/user_doc.htm). > Henceforth, we intend to make all documentation available there. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] HHS buys Novell
Hi, Although incongruent with the subject, it is still good news, IMO. Cheers, --ldl On 6/3/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, my son did that to me and I had the same reaction, so I couldn't > resist forwarding it! > > On Friday 03 June 2005 09:38 pm, chuck5566 wrote: > > Well hell! Your msg title had me wondering what the heck HHS was and > > why they were buying (out) Novell. > > I think you did that on purpose! > > > > :-) > > > > On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > > > http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163702338 > > > > > > --- > > > > > > -- > > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > > > shotput > > > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office > > > luge track? > > > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > > > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > > shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office > > luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Fwd: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista
Hi, To Bhaskar's point, there are many types of "journaling" that can be going on... usually not duplication of effort. The "journal" filesystems do NOT journal the "user data", but rather the information necessary to ensure that the file systems integrity is retained. That is what ext3 journals do. It is the job of GT.m to journal the data changes, so that if the file system is intact, it (GT.m) can recover the integrity of the database... However, since a "data base" is potentially made up of several globals (or global nodes), it is up to the application to ensure that all of the pieces needed to represent the application state is valid. Cheers, --ldl -- Forwarded message -- From: K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 27, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista To: "Landis, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Larry -- I am traveling and can't post to Hardhats from my Blackberry. Would you please post it for me? Thank you very much. Journaling can occur at multiple levels, and the higher levels build on and require journaling at the lower levels. For example, file systems like ext3 implement journaling in order to be able to recover files after a crash. GT.M journaling requires the file system to be able to recover database and journal files in order to be able to recover the state of the database. I don't know what VistA journaling does, but I imagine that journaling at the application level might be used to restore and activate workflows, and would in turn require journaling at the MUMPS level to recover the state of the database. -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:52:58 To:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista Hi, I can't speak to what journalling VistA does for the application view, but GT.m journalling records the SETs and KILLs of global values. Very likely conceptually different and independent. Cheers, --ldl On 5/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If VistA does journaling, does this mitigate GTM journaling?I need to > learn more about GTM journaling and backup so I'm going through the GTM > docs. I guess I was also looking for other's input on things to consider in > this environment and any suggestions. Though I understand each configuration > will have different requirements or strategies for maintaining integrity. > > John > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista > > > > There are two levels of journaling. First, VistA > > itself offers some "journaling". Then there is GT.M > > journaling. Which are you interested in? > > > > Kevin > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is a document on > > > journaling and backup for > > > OpenVista (either generic issues or specifically for > > > GTM platforms?) > > > > > > Thanks > > > John > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Greg Woodhouse" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux > > > distributions (was Re: How do I > > > start?) > > > > > > > > > > So am I. Wasn't Unix revolutionary, among other > > > things, becausre of the > > > > small size of its kernel? I'm as big a fan as > > > anyone of the "Do one > > > > thing and do it well" concept. > > > > > > > > --- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And I for one am glad they are NOT part of the > > > kernel. Think of the > > > > > whole > > > > > thing as a model of a distant universe with the > > > kernel in the middle. > > > > > It is > > > > > the nature of things. > > > > > > > > > > This is the reason why some in the community > > > refer to Linux as > > > > > GNU/Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A practical man is a man who practices the errors > > > of his &g
Re: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista
Hi, I can't speak to what journalling VistA does for the application view, but GT.m journalling records the SETs and KILLs of global values. Very likely conceptually different and independent. Cheers, --ldl On 5/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If VistA does journaling, does this mitigate GTM journaling?I need to > learn more about GTM journaling and backup so I'm going through the GTM > docs. I guess I was also looking for other's input on things to consider in > this environment and any suggestions. Though I understand each configuration > will have different requirements or strategies for maintaining integrity. > > John > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista > > > > There are two levels of journaling. First, VistA > > itself offers some "journaling". Then there is GT.M > > journaling. Which are you interested in? > > > > Kevin > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is a document on > > > journaling and backup for > > > OpenVista (either generic issues or specifically for > > > GTM platforms?) > > > > > > Thanks > > > John > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Greg Woodhouse" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux > > > distributions (was Re: How do I > > > start?) > > > > > > > > > > So am I. Wasn't Unix revolutionary, among other > > > things, becausre of the > > > > small size of its kernel? I'm as big a fan as > > > anyone of the "Do one > > > > thing and do it well" concept. > > > > > > > > --- Mark Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And I for one am glad they are NOT part of the > > > kernel. Think of the > > > > > whole > > > > > thing as a model of a distant universe with the > > > kernel in the middle. > > > > > It is > > > > > the nature of things. > > > > > > > > > > This is the reason why some in the community > > > refer to Linux as > > > > > GNU/Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A practical man is a man who practices the errors > > > of his > > > forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli > > > > > > > > Greg Woodhouse > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > > > > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - > > > Create apps using Yahoo! > > > > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! > > > directly into your own > > > > Applications - visit > > > > > http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > > > > ___ > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > > > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create > > > apps using Yahoo! > > > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! > > > directly into your own > > > Applications - visit > > > > > http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! > > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own > > Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own > Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis -
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Hi, I'm with Crawford, I'll take whatever you give me as a starting point, and make the many layered cake I am used to. I don't really care what kernel is under the covers... I am finding the OS X layout a but unusual, so will probably go buy the book (OS X for the UNIX user, or whatever it is called). I find even with Linux distributions I have to go to the store for my favorite things (e.g. GT.m is not there, they are usually a release or two behind in Python, etc, etc...). To date the worst I've had is with the HP-UX 10.20 systems here at work... They are almost like being back in 1980 with naked pre-GNU V7... (but even there my scripts work as is no mods.. that's the point of POSIX!) Cheers, --ldl On 5/26/05, Crawford Rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a simple analogy. I will admit, the Linux kernel by itself would > make things "interesting" even from a console point of view (to put it > very mildly). Have to love modular design though, so I want a simple > cake with icing, or shall we go for the quad layer with the works? ;-) > > --- Crawford > -- > The Linux ETC Company > 368 South McCaslin Boulevard > P.M.B. 146 > Louisville, CO 80027 USA > +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) > +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) > +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) > http://www.linux-etc.com > > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 11:33 -0700, Greg Woodhouse > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of > > the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. > > (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are > > all "icing on the cake"? > > > > --- Crawford Rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert > > > another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial > > > enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the > > > kernel is Linux. Distributions are the "icing on top of the cake" in > > > my > > > honest opinion. > > > > > > With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have > > > tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, > > > most > > > will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if > > > you > > > have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation > > > that becomes the question. > > > > > > FWIW. > > > > > > --- Crawford > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own > Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Hi, Re: Linux Not too strong, IMO. Anything, no, *everything* outside of the kernel is "frosting on the cake". What you are talking about is what is necessary for a POSIX environmnet, (e.g. sh, bash, mv, cp, tar, etc). These are not Linux at all. They are (usually) part of a "Linux distribution" as they are part of an "AIX distribution", "OS X distribution", "FreeBSD distribution", etc, etc, and so forth. Linux is "just a kernel". Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat and SuSE, etc are merely software distributions that happen to use the Linux kernel between the hardware and the execution environment. Cheers, --ldl On 5/26/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of > the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. > (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are > all "icing on the cake"? > > --- Crawford Rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert > > another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial > > enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the > > kernel is Linux. Distributions are the "icing on top of the cake" in > > my > > honest opinion. > > > > With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have > > tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, > > most > > will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if > > you > > have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation > > that becomes the question. > > > > FWIW. > > > > --- Crawford > > -- > > The Linux ETC Company > > 368 South McCaslin Boulevard > > P.M.B. 146 > > Louisville, CO 80027 USA > > +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) > > +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) > > +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) > > http://www.linux-etc.com > > > > > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. > --Benjamin Disraeli > > Greg Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own > Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Bhaskar, Great! When I use it, I'll post a note to you for your records. Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry -- > > The Powered by GT.M logo is official. For anyone that has a site powered by > GT.M and wants to display the logo (with a link to > http://www.sanchez-gtm.com), please e-mail me and I'll send you the logo > (that way I can keep track of where it is used). I'll e-mail you one > offline, Larry. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of LD "Gus" Landis > Sent: Thu 5/26/2005 12:28 AM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: > Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start? > Bhaskar, > > Is that "Powered by GT.M" on Ed's nameless box official? or > is that something he just did? > > Please attach the official logo to a reply. I think we'd all like it! > > Cheers, > --ldl > On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo > > with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much. > > Please ask me for a copy of the logo. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street > > Sent: Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Cc: > > Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start? > > Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!! I noticed the > > powered > > by GT.M also. ; ) > > > > I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s). > > > > > > > > > -- > LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)
Nancy, Thanks again! I've gotta bookmark that! For some reason when I ftp there I never "see" the path... Oh well. Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry. It is the same site with all of the OR_30_*.zip files. > > ftp.va.gov/vista/Software > > > On Thursday 26 May 2005 12:36 am, LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and > > VistA (M) FOIA? > > > > Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL? I looked > > under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere. > > > > Cheers, > > --ldl > > > > On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and > > > is posted under VistAWeb. HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in > > > caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip . > > > > > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about > > > > the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code. > > > > > > -- > > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > > > --- > > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to > > > collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high > > > cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you > > > can meet as often as you want. Try it > > > free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] What next?!
Kevin, I'm not sure what wiki is in use... but generally HTML is not allowed (or maybe I should say "honored") in a wiki page.. and the worldvista.org wiki is no exception.. See the following (offered as help for editing by "our" wiki)... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing#Sections.2C_paragraphs.2C_lists_and_lines Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I haven't moved my stuff yet. I am trying to > figure out if I can upload straight html files into > the wikki. If not, there will be a lot of cut-n-paste > with lots of reformatting needed. > > For Ewaen, my other site was www.geocities.com/kdtop3 > I can't remember if you have seen that or not. > > Kevin > > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The part you have done is the easy part because > > there are instructions for > > most of that. Now comes the hard part. > > > > Kevin, has all of the stuff on your pages been moved > > to the wiki as well? IT > > is far from perfect, but it is something! > > > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 08:54 pm, Ewaen Okao wrote: > > > Thanks Kevin > > > Downloaded the correct version of CPRSChart.exe > > and it connected to the > > > servewr with no errors. Now that I have the VistA > > installed and the > > > CPRSChart.exe running. I have no idea what next to > > do. > > > will like to have a test enrollement and > > eligibilty verification setup, can > > > VistA do this ? Also how do I populate the > > patient, physcians etc list > > > Any suggestions on what next to do > > > Phew this is hard!! > > > Ewaen > > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:53 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Server /client > > Incompatiblity > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > You upgrade by getting a different version of CPRS > > to > > > run. Look here: > > > > > > > > > http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- Ewaen Okao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thank Lloyd and Nancy, > > > > > > > > Got the CPRSchart.exe to finally connect to > > server > > > > and the error when I run D^ZTMB the error no > > longer > > > > appears. I went back to D ^ZTMGRSET and paid > > > > particular attention to step 46, 47 48 in the > > > > install document. > > > > > > > > However when I log in there is a message that > > > > appears. it is as follows > > > > > > > > This is version 1.014.11 of CPRSChart.exe > > > > The server is running version 1.0.25.28 > > > > it is strongly recommended that you upgrade to > > this > > > > version. > > > > > > > > How does one upgrade the CPRSChart.exe? > > > > > > > > When I click ok to open the the CPRS chart > > another > > > > error message appears, this error is as follows: > > > > > > > > CPRS - Patient Chart > > > > List index out of bounds (0) > > > > > > > > Any advice anyone. > > > > > > > > Ewaen Okao > > > > > > - > > > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to > > PCcalling worldwide with > > > voicemail > > > > -- > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > --- > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the > > easiest way to collaborate > > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the > > high cost of travel and > > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you > > can meet as often as > > you want. Try it > > > free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > __ > Discover Yahoo! > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click __
Re: [Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)
Hi, What is the coordination between releases of VistAWeb and VistA (M) FOIA? Sorry about being so dense... but do you have a URL? I looked under ftp://ftp.va.gov and didn't get anywhere. Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > VistA-Link is on the ftp site under VistALink. VistAWeb was released and is > posted under VistAWeb. HealtheVet Desktop is in Care Management in > caremanagement1.0.0.FOIA.zip . > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 09:56 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about > > the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code. > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Bhaskar, Is that "Powered by GT.M" on Ed's nameless box official? or is that something he just did? Please attach the official logo to a reply. I think we'd all like it! Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have a web site powered by GT.M, please consider displaying the logo > with a link to http://www.sanchez-gtm.com - and thank you very much. Please > ask me for a copy of the logo. > > -- Bhaskar > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street > Sent: Wed 5/25/2005 5:22 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: > Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start? > Believe it or not I found that site this past weekend!! I noticed the powered > by GT.M also. ; ) > > I'm not gone, just have a case of the Mump(s). > > > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Hi, Adding my $0.02... in the "distro wars". I agree with the other seasoned Linuxers in that it doesn't really matter what distribution you use. Most all of them are good (or better) than others in some way. If you are a newbie PLEASE do not be distressed by those that advocate one distro over another. Except for things like system adminstration level stuff... they all work well (but please use a recent one, as about 6-8 years ago, it was a bit bumpy as we converted to ELF and glibc). Now, a recommendation, if you are new, consider whether or not you might want to purchase support (e.g. some one you can call in the middle of the night because your system stopped working and you have exhausted your knowledge but the system MUST be up!). If you fall into the "it must be up" then I'd encourage you to build into your budget a maintenance plan for your hardware, your OS and your MUMPS environment. If you do decide to use Linux, pick a maintenance vendor that will support whatever distribution you choose (this need not be Red Hat nor SuSE as I am sure that you can find someone willing to support most any distribution for a suitable annual/monthly fee. If DR (Disaster Recovery) is important to your site, consider whether or not you are going to do that "in-house" or with someone like SunGuard. If you go with a commercial DR house, then you need to check out the costs associated with your hardware choice and connectivity needs (to the DR site). Relative to the MUMPS vendor, it is fine to play with GT.m or Cache on a PC-class box. BUT if my business depended on the system being up, I'd talk to Bhaskar or InterSystems about a support contract for my system. When the system *has* to be "up"... you are increasing the risk of failure. One thing nice about the stack that is used by most here (Linux/GT.m/Cache) is that it all moves well to a commercial OS (e.g. AIX) nicely... but this option will cost you money, but it is legitimate and should be considered if the scale of the installation demands it. IMO, high-end x86 boxes are almost as good as the "big" boxes, and, if possible, I'll stick with Linux... but if not, there are good options that are completely compatible (if the scripts are written correctly). For example, my Linux scripts run without modification on Tru64, HP-UX, AIX and Linux... with care, yours can too. Then you don't have to worry about some of these things. As an aside, I'd like to suggest that we (as a community) work on defining a "VSB" VistA Standard Base which can be implemented, even on systems that do not have filesystems (e.g. HP OpenVMS and Microsoft Windows), or atleast follow the same pattern. Right now too many flavors of where things are installed exist, which makes .profile (or .bashrc) settings error prone. (Let's move that topic to another conversation). Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume glibc is simply the C runtime? > > === > Gregory Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right question." > -- S. Barry Cooper > > > On May 25, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: > > > Mark is right. VistA on GT.M will run on just about any > > contemporary release of just about any major Linux distribution. > > The only dependencies are glibc and libncurses. > > > > Distro wars are fun, though. Not unlike a good pillow fight where > > nobody gets hurt and everybody has a grand time! > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] What is FOIA status of "new" code (Java based applications)
Hi, I've been reading the "VistA Monograph" and am wondering about the availablity (through FOIA) of the Java "new" code. -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start?
Hi, Re: Linux Distributions IMO, due to the refocussing of business and acquisition, etc, we are still somewhat in a state of flux. I think main questions that you (Alberto) need to answer is: - Do I want to have OS support 24x7, e-mail, telephone, volunteers? - What is the likelihood that I am going to have a software failure for which a vendor's assistance is vital? My recommendations would be: (alhpabetic ordering) - If you need to have vendor support: Novell or Red Hat - If you are willing to rely on email, etc: Debian, Fedora - Others: Gentoo, Knoppix, etc, etc, etc I hope that we (WorldVistA/Hardhats) settle on a few distributions so that there can be expertise in the adminstration of these systems. They all have unique things, so it is confusing (from a giving advice perspective) to have different distributions. Generally one needs to know which distribution is being asked about -- even if they are all running the same identical Linux kernel. The difference is NOT Linux, it is the stuff that the distribution has integrated. Over the past 4-5 years there has been quite a number of distributions (flavors) of GNU Linux that people have been using. Issues can arise because of these, so it can be unnecessarily confusing. For myself, I intend to be able to advise people running: SuSE 9.3+, Fedora Core 3+ and Red Hat (version TBD). Other varieties may be supported in the future. There are enough administrative differences (SuSE uses YAST, etc) that giving advice can be tricky. (Note: I can advise on the older version of some of these, but have stated support for the current (now) and future versions, from now. Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine? If > no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux version. > > Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions. It have been thinking that might > be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a > practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it will > have support guaranteed to be available. > > Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a > "bit bleeding edge" as others more than me have said. (One with a name > beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.) > > Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you > can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version. > > Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available to > a large enterprise for the other distros. > > On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote: > > Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a > > lot of stuff yesterday like: > > > > 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso > > 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz > > 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso > > > > I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing. > > (Linux is not my strong point) > > I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use. > > > > If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please > > elaborate as much as you want to ;) > > > > Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA > > files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alberto Odor, MD > > Mexico City > > > > --- > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem
Hi, I am about to tackle getting CPRS talking as well... Question: Is the RPC broker setup to handle some simple "ASCII" requests over say a telnet session? That way, one can confirm that the RPC broker is up and running. or not. Using the example below: $ telnet 192.168.1.255 9200 would make the connection... then if there was some item that could be entered by hand and give results... that would be good to know. TIA for the advice. Cheers, --ldl On 5/25/05, vista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a hospital > on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u > if it is possible. > > I've installed and configured > OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz > on a redhat linux PC by following steps in Worldvista > Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but when I run > CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window disapeers after a few > moments and I can't make the connection. I think there is a problem in > RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find it. > > Best Regards -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database
Kevin, My recollection was that it was "his" girlfriend on "his" motorcycle... which was also followed up by the comment of a leader (his boss?) at NIST saying (after a presentation about MUMPS) that that was exactly what the NIST was trying to prevent (systems like those built in MUMPS). Personally, "dangerous" things are not bad... just gotta be careful! Cheers, --ldl On 5/24/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just had a flashback to Marty quoting that > programming with other structured languages was like > holding hands with your girlfriend at the Sunday > social. While M was like having sex with your best > friend's girlfirend on the back of a motorcycle. i.e. > wild, dangerous, and perhaps a lot of fun. > > LOL! > > Kevin > > > --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Kevin, you're absolutely right! It is tedious! But > > not documenting things > > that are necessary for the interactions between > > packages (aka services) > > would surely lead to errors and chaos if programmers > > just went ahead and did > > whatever they wanted. (And that's indeed how Class > > III code sometimes is > > done!) > > > > When time, programmer resources and functionality > > demands are tight we do go > > to the extent of documenting such relationships. > > Also, in the VistA/M > > environment there are system-wide variables that can > > be most useful and are > > also documented as being "Supported" (that means any > > app can use them as > > documented in the IA). As you have already learned, > > applications such as VA > > FileMan, Kernel, Toolkit, Mailman, etc. have a > > rather significant list of > > such "function objects" (of various kinds) each of > > them are formally > > recorded in Integration Agreements so that everyone > > can know their status. > > > > Several decades ago it WAS a free-for-all. > > Developers like Bob Lushene felt > > it was their privilege to poke around in any > > application's data regardless > > of whether they had approval to do so, lot alone > > whether they were even > > doing it "right". Even the tedious stuff gets > > formally documented ... or > > else it's "off limits". Better to document what's > > needed than to let > > programmers pick up whatever they find lying around > > and expect to have to > > support it! Documenting even the most trivial > > interface detail establishes > > responsibilities for the short and long term. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Kevin > > Toppenberg > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:56 PM > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating > > the database > > > > Sigh... I know that much has been done with M in > > vista, but this system of setting down written > > agreements of which programs can access this or that > > global variable seems tedius and error prone. > > > > I am used to being able to create an function object > > that encapsulates its private details, and then > > exposes an interface that anyone in the world is > > welcome to use. > > > > But we work with what we have. > > > > Kevin > > > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Of course you're right. This doesn't give OE/RR > > the > > > right to do this > > > anywhee they want, just in one particular > > situation. > > > I misspoke. > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I expect that the USAGE: Private, means no other > > > > subroutines and process may use this component. > > > > > > > > The Protocol Menu may be talking about an entry > > in > > > the > > > > PROTOCOL file with a TYPE="M" (MENU) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A practical man is a man who practices the errors > > of > > > his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli > > > > > > Greg Woodhouse > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > > > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - > > Create > > > apps using Yahoo! > > > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! > > > directly into your own > > > Applications - visit > > > > > > http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. > > Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create > > apps using Yahoo! > > Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! > > directly int
Re: [Hardhats-members] Question on updating the database
Kevin, Quick adopter! Good for you! ROTFL! Cheers, --ldl On 5/24/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TIA ;-) > > Kevin -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Kevin,
TIA in this case is "Thanks In Advance".
TTFN, CUL8R, and ROTFL!
Cheers,
--ldl
On 5/23/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gus,
>
> I've been sitting here trying to figure out what TIA
> means. As a physician, I use this term for Transient
> Ischemic Attach (a mini stroke.) I doubt you mean
> that.
>
> So then, as the father of small children, I wonder if
> its related to TTFN ("Ta Ta For Now") LOL
>
> :-)
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> --- "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am also looking for the "demo" database. I've
> > heard "Nancy has it"
> > from some... Nancy, is that right? Where can I
> > get it? TIA!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --ldl
> > On 5/23/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > It is written in Delphi and you can see what it
> > looks like by downloading the
> > > demo from www.va.gov/vista and hooking up to the
> > VA Server. The CPRS you
> > > download is 1.0.23.15 with some added goodies.
> > >
> > > On Monday 23 May 2005 11:25 am, Alberto Odor
> > wrote:
> > > > Is this package written in Delphi? Is there a
> > graphical interface program
> > > > to view these files?
> > > >
> > > > Alberto Odor, MD
> > > > Mexico City
> > > >
> > > > -Mensaje original-
> > > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > En nombre de Nancy
> > > > Anthracite
> > > > Enviado el: Viernes, 20 de Mayo de 2005 02:30
> > p.m.
> > > > Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one
> > get the source code for CPRS?
> > > >
> > > > ftp.va.gov/vista then Software, Packages,
> > Order-entry Results Reporting or
> > > > something close to that. The files that contain
> > the various versions,
> > > > except
> > > >
> > > > the latest, are listed on the wiki at
> > > >
> >
> http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 20 May 2005 03:52 pm, LD "Gus" Landis
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can someone please pass me a ponter to the
> > source code
> > > > > (Delphi/etc) to CPRS? TIA!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > --ldl
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nancy Anthracite
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Hi, I am also looking for the "demo" database. I've heard "Nancy has it" from some... Nancy, is that right? Where can I get it? TIA! Cheers, --ldl On 5/23/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is written in Delphi and you can see what it looks like by downloading the > demo from www.va.gov/vista and hooking up to the VA Server. The CPRS you > download is 1.0.23.15 with some added goodies. > > On Monday 23 May 2005 11:25 am, Alberto Odor wrote: > > Is this package written in Delphi? Is there a graphical interface program > > to view these files? > > > > Alberto Odor, MD > > Mexico City > > > > -Mensaje original- > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Nancy > > Anthracite > > Enviado el: Viernes, 20 de Mayo de 2005 02:30 p.m. > > Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS? > > > > ftp.va.gov/vista then Software, Packages, Order-entry Results Reporting or > > something close to that. The files that contain the various versions, > > except > > > > the latest, are listed on the wiki at > > http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation > > > > On Friday 20 May 2005 03:52 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Can someone please pass me a ponter to the source code > > > (Delphi/etc) to CPRS? TIA! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > --ldl > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12&alloc_id344&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Nancy,
I can't look at them until tonight, so "soon enough"! Thanks!
Cheers,
--ldl
On 5/23/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can pull together the ones I listed on the wiki, but not until tonight.
>
> On Monday 23 May 2005 03:52 am, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe this is silly, but I am trying to put together somewhat of
> > a complete (or as complete as I can) history of CPRS in the source
> > code repository. FWIW, the dates on the files mostly square with
> > the release dates Nancy set.
> >
> > Various version info in the releases that I have, which are:
> >
> > ReleaseFile Dates Version From
> > - - -
> > -- Hep_c 2004/10/14 ?
> > {No idea what this is yet} OR_30_155_SRC 2002/03/12-2002/08/16 1.0.19.16
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof OR_30_187_SRC 2003/05/21-2004/02/04 1.0.23.15
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof OR_30_190_SRC 2004/06/21 1.0.24.26
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof OR_30_195_SRC 2005/01/19 1.0.25.28
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof OR_30_206_SRC 2003/09/08-2003/10/23 1.0.22.16
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof OR_30_222SRC 2004/10/28 1.0.12.0
> > App/GroupNotes.dof OR_30_224_SRC 2004/08/02 1.0.24.27
> > {Nancy's list says so} OR_30_231_SRC 2005/04/19 1.0.25.40
> > CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
> >
> > LDL
> > Missing Version File ~Date Comment
> > --- - - ---
> > - * 1.0.18.2 OR_30_125.ZIP about 12/01
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 1.0.19.7 OR_30_132.ZIP about 5/02 *Nancy
> > has it
> > * 1.0.20.21 OR_30_148.ZIP about 11/02 *Nancy has it
> >1.0.22.16 OR_30_206.ZIP about 1/04 *Nancy has it
> >1.0.23.15 OR_30_187.ZIP about 2/04 *Nancy & Sourceforge
> > WorldVistA 1.0.24.26 OR_30_190.ZIP Aug 2, 2004
> >1.0.24.27 OR_30_224.ZIP Sep 3, 2004
> >1.0.25.28 OR_30_195.zip Feb 9, 2005
> >
> > Nancy, would you please send me pointers to the versions that I am
> > missing? Let me know if you can put them somewhere I can ftp them from.
> > Worst case, we could use 1.0.22.16 as a "starting point", although I'd
> > like to go back to the beginning if that is possible. (It is sometimes
> > useful to do diffs between various versions to see where things came
> > from or came about).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --ldl
> >
> > On 5/21/05, Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Patches in the form OR_30_nnn are for Order Entry/Results Reporting
> > > version 3.0 and the patch number "nnn" is whatever next number is
> > > available as an ID for the patch. During development the patches are to
> > > have build numbers also on the patch in the form OR*30*nnnTnn but the Tnn
> > > gets stripped off when released. A few of us argued strongly that the
> > > revision numbers on the patches not be stripped when the patch got
> > > released, and that has in fact been adopted for the CPRS GUI code which
> > > usually requires several M-side patches for several packages. Those are
> > > in the form major version.minor version.build. The major version for
> > > CPRS is 1.0 and the minor versions are the 23, 24 & 25 with the build
> > > number being the 4th period piece.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> > > Anthracite
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:51 PM
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for
> > > CPRS?
> > >
> > > My guess is that they are numbered by what project number they were when
> > > the
> > >
> > > got started rather than when they were finished. Cameron will reveal all,
> > > right Cameron?
> > >
> > > Larry, I also neglected to mention that the source code is in similarly
> > > numbered files with *SRC.zip at the end in the Programs subdirectory of
> > > Order
> > > Entry Results Reporting.
> > >
> > > On Friday 20 May 2005 04:39 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Madhavi & Nancy..
> > > >
> > >
Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Hi,
Maybe this is silly, but I am trying to put together somewhat of
a complete (or as complete as I can) history of CPRS in the source
code repository. FWIW, the dates on the files mostly square with
the release dates Nancy set.
Various version info in the releases that I have, which are:
ReleaseFile Dates Version From
- - - --
Hep_c 2004/10/14 ? {No idea what this is yet}
OR_30_155_SRC 2002/03/12-2002/08/16 1.0.19.16 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
OR_30_187_SRC 2003/05/21-2004/02/04 1.0.23.15 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
OR_30_190_SRC 2004/06/21 1.0.24.26 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
OR_30_195_SRC 2005/01/19 1.0.25.28 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
OR_30_206_SRC 2003/09/08-2003/10/23 1.0.22.16 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
OR_30_222SRC 2004/10/28 1.0.12.0 App/GroupNotes.dof
OR_30_224_SRC 2004/08/02 1.0.24.27 {Nancy's list says so}
OR_30_231_SRC 2005/04/19 1.0.25.40 CPRS-Chart/CPRSChart.dof
LDL
Missing Version File ~Date Comment
--- - - --- -
* 1.0.18.2 OR_30_125.ZIP about 12/01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* 1.0.19.7 OR_30_132.ZIP about 5/02 *Nancy has it
* 1.0.20.21 OR_30_148.ZIP about 11/02 *Nancy has it
1.0.22.16 OR_30_206.ZIP about 1/04 *Nancy has it
1.0.23.15 OR_30_187.ZIP about 2/04 *Nancy & Sourceforge WorldVistA
1.0.24.26 OR_30_190.ZIP Aug 2, 2004
1.0.24.27 OR_30_224.ZIP Sep 3, 2004
1.0.25.28 OR_30_195.zip Feb 9, 2005
Nancy, would you please send me pointers to the versions that I am
missing? Let me know if you can put them somewhere I can ftp them from.
Worst case, we could use 1.0.22.16 as a "starting point", although I'd
like to go back to the beginning if that is possible. (It is sometimes
useful to do diffs between various versions to see where things came
from or came about).
Cheers,
--ldl
On 5/21/05, Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patches in the form OR_30_nnn are for Order Entry/Results Reporting version
> 3.0 and the patch number "nnn" is whatever next number is available as an ID
> for the patch. During development the patches are to have build numbers
> also on the patch in the form OR*30*nnnTnn but the Tnn gets stripped off
> when released. A few of us argued strongly that the revision numbers on the
> patches not be stripped when the patch got released, and that has in fact
> been adopted for the CPRS GUI code which usually requires several M-side
> patches for several packages. Those are in the form major version.minor
> version.build. The major version for CPRS is 1.0 and the minor versions are
> the 23, 24 & 25 with the build number being the 4th period piece.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Anthracite
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:51 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
>
> My guess is that they are numbered by what project number they were when the
>
> got started rather than when they were finished. Cameron will reveal all,
> right Cameron?
>
> Larry, I also neglected to mention that the source code is in similarly
> numbered files with *SRC.zip at the end in the Programs subdirectory of
> Order
> Entry Results Reporting.
>
> On Friday 20 May 2005 04:39 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks Madhavi & Nancy..
> >
> > Interesting numbering scheme... what am I missing?? :-|
> >
> > version 1.0.18.2 ---> in the OR_30_125.ZIP(dated about
> > 12/01)*Nancy has it nanthracite at verizon dot net
> > version 1.0.19.7 ---> in the OR_30_132.ZIP(dated about 5/02)*Nancy
> > has it version 1.0.20.21 ---> in the OR_30_148.ZIP(dated about
> > 11/02)*Nancy has it version 1.0.22.16 ---> in the OR_30_206.ZIP(dated
> > about 1/04)*Nancy has it version 1.0.23.15 ---> in the OR_30_187.ZIP
> > (dated about
> > 2/04)*Nancy and Sourceforge WorldVistA have this one
> > version 1.0.24.26 ---> in the OR_30_190.ZIP(dated Aug 2, 2004
> > version 1.0.24.27 ---> in the OR_30_224.ZIP(dated Sep 3, 2004)
> > version 1.0.25.28 ---> in the OR_30_195.zip(dated Feb 9, 2005)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --ldl
> >
> > On 5/20/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ftp.va.gov/vista then Software, Packages, Order-entry Results Reporting
> > > or some
Re: [Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Hi, Thanks Madhavi & Nancy.. Interesting numbering scheme... what am I missing?? :-| version 1.0.18.2 ---> in the OR_30_125.ZIP(dated about 12/01)*Nancy has it nanthracite at verizon dot net version 1.0.19.7 ---> in the OR_30_132.ZIP(dated about 5/02)*Nancy has it version 1.0.20.21 ---> in the OR_30_148.ZIP(dated about 11/02)*Nancy has it version 1.0.22.16 ---> in the OR_30_206.ZIP(dated about 1/04)*Nancy has it version 1.0.23.15 ---> in the OR_30_187.ZIP(dated about 2/04)*Nancy and Sourceforge WorldVistA have this one version 1.0.24.26 ---> in the OR_30_190.ZIP(dated Aug 2, 2004 version 1.0.24.27 ---> in the OR_30_224.ZIP(dated Sep 3, 2004) version 1.0.25.28 ---> in the OR_30_195.zip(dated Feb 9, 2005) Cheers, --ldl On 5/20/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ftp.va.gov/vista then Software, Packages, Order-entry Results Reporting or > something close to that. The files that contain the various versions, except > the latest, are listed on the wiki at > http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=CPRS_Installation > > On Friday 20 May 2005 03:52 pm, LD "Gus" Landis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can someone please pass me a ponter to the source code > > (Delphi/etc) to CPRS? TIA! > > > > Cheers, > > --ldl > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12&alloc_id344&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Where does one get the source code for CPRS?
Hi, Can someone please pass me a ponter to the source code (Delphi/etc) to CPRS? TIA! Cheers, --ldl -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12&alloc_id344&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Revised (again) /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script
Dear Gran'pa Z, Where's the wiki you mentioned? How'd your "Des Moines surprise" go? Grandchildren sure are fun! My 2+ year-old granddaughter has been seeing more of us lately, and it is pleasant to have her "warming up" to me! The grandson is going through an intensely "mama's boy only" phase. Cheers, --ldl On 5/13/05, John Leo Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, Kevin > You gave me the start I needed. > I just finished adding the script to the Wiki. > > More to come, I hope. > My next target is your VistA configuration script > > regards, > jlz > > > Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > >>If you want code formatted, just make sure that each > >>line has 1-2 spaces at the beginning, > >> > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12&alloc_id344&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Hi, Unless you are using the Cache Object stuff... You should think of Cache as being mostly 1995 Standard M[UMPS]. So to kill off a global name MYGBL, you: K ^MYGBL or KILL ^MYGBL just as you would in ANSI Standard M[UMPS]. Cheers, --ldl On 4/26/05, Doctor Bones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can tell you right now... it isn't Greek > I think it is sanscrit. > > Manolis > > On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 22:21 -0700, Butch Jones wrote: > > Cameron, > > You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how > > this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this > > translates into Greek. > > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! > Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net > Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey > Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id5hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
