Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Pharmacy
Unit Dose - ATCLook at the ATC MNEMONIC field (212.2) of the DRUG file (50) for those drugs that the pick list wants to send to the ATC. If there's data, try deleting it (for one or a few at first). On Jul 17, 2006, at 12:51 PM, ashfaq wrote: I have a few questions regarding pharmacy. Here is what I have done A Pharmacy Location has been set up which has to be linked to IV Room (option in the PBM). This pharmacy location is linked to a 'primary inventory point' whose special primary type attribute is set to 'D' for drugs. Inventory items are created manually in the primary inventory point and linked to a drug item in the local drug file#50. Link between the primary inventory point item and local drug file entry is established properly. All the items in the local drug file # 50 have their 'current inventory' imported with the files (which are independent of local inventory items and there is no check for verification). When a drug is released to the outpatient the inventory in the local drug file #50 is updated automatically (it doesn't ask for a corresponding inventory item neither updates it). As far as Inpatient Medications is concerned there are 2 cases (1) Unit Dose Medications: When unit dose medications are ordered and verified they are sent to the Pick List (which has to be updated for the current orders) and BCMA Virtual Due List (VDL). After they are updated pick list shows all the orders verified and the quantities ordered and gives the option to dispense drugs against the order. When drugs are dispensed now this pick list (corresponding to a ward group) needs to be sent to the ATC (most probably linked with a real ward). But as there is no ATC so system just shows the message 'No ATC Machine Found' and also there is no update corresponding to the drugs entered in the local drug file or pharmacy inventory. (2) IV Additives/Solutions: In case of IV Additives there is no 'current inventory' in the local drug file, though the additive can be linked to a pharmacy inventory item. IV Orders are just sent to BCMA after verification and again there is no corresponding update of the inventory. · Inpatient Medications can also provide Medications to Outpatients which are being treated in a clinic which has facility to entertain outpatients but its only for IV Additives/Solutions (most probably because IV additives/solutions aren't easy to be made outside the hospitals. my questions are There seems to be ambiguities in the link between Pharmacy and Inventory. Inventory item is associated with Drug but is never used for item keeping. Is there any other way of delivering Inpatient Medication and is there a way to bypass ATC The link between outpatient pharmacy and inventory is also not clear Drug administration within a ward is not clear Regards Ashfaq Uddin Project Lead Kabot International-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Hardhats-members mailing listHardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] sshd and mumps process hung
Nancy, On Jul 9, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:I tried playing with it:GTMS MYIO="home/nancy/testIO.txt" I'm curious - (if you get time) would it make a difference if you started this file reference with a slash, as in "/home/nancy/testIO.txt"?GTMO MYIO W $T%SYSTEM-E-ENO13, Permission deniedGTMS MYIO="/tmp/TestIO.txt" I'm curious because this file reference does start with the slash. I know 'tmp' is a top-level folder; not sure if 'home' is.GTMO MYIO W $T1GTMC MYIOGTMH[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /tmp/TestIO.txt/tmp/TestIO.txt[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /tmp/TestIO.txtSo, what is $T ?In case any of this is what you're asking:1. The setting of $T[EST] is a side effect of the OPEN command.2. If you want to write $T to the file, you need to USE MYIO after opening it.Apologies if not.Thanks,ChuckOn Sunday 09 July 2006 23:25, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:On Jul 9, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Ismet Kursunoglu wrote: Thank you. Now I am getting somewhere - now it is complaining aboutthe device being busy.. That's good news because it almost certainly means the file couldn'tbe opened. Why is that good news? Well, it sounds kind ofparadoxical, but is means we have most likely gotten past the VistAlayer and are now dealing with a MUMPS or Linux issue. Try this(substitute the actual file name for /tmp/file.txt):S MYIO="/tmp/file.txt"O MYIO W $TC MYIOGregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Judge a man by his questions nothis answers." --Voltaire-- Nancy Anthracite-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Hardhats-members mailing listHardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman lookup question: Aliases in PATIENT file
For future reference then: FM has an option to reindex a file which allows you to pick a specific index. Also, there are calls to DIK to do likewise. I believe the call for a single index is IX^DIK. On Jul 8, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Thanks Greg and Chris. I fixed it with this code: Kevin ReIndex ;Purpose: To recreate the B index for the PATIENT file, adding the entries for aliases. new index set index=$ORDER(^DPT(0)) if index0 for do quit:(+index'0) . if $data(^DPT(index,.01,0)) do . . new alias,IEN2 . . set IEN2=$order(^DPT(index,.01,0)) . . if +IEN20 for do quit:(+IEN2'0) . . . set alias=$piece($get(^DPT(index,.01,IEN2,0)),^,1) . . . if alias'= set ^DPT(B,alias,index)=1 . . . set IEN2=$order(^DPT(index,.01,IEN2)) . set index=$ORDER(^DPT(index)) quit On 7/8/06, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 8, 2006, at 6:11 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Anyway, does anyone have any ideas how to get the B index recreated properly? If I just reindex the file in fileman, I don't think that the aliases will be added. And come to think of it, maybe this is what I did at some point to break it in the first place. I am able to write code to do this manually, but I wonder if there is another way that this should be done. There may be a utility to rebuild this index documented in the technical manuals. Unfortunately, PIMS internals are pretty much outside my area of expertise. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman lookup question: Aliases in PATIENT file
On Jul 8, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Steven McPhelan wrote: Chuck, does Fileman reindex always kill of the index for all Regular indexes? Or does it only do this for B indexes? I thought that non-B regular indexes where reindexed using this logic: execute KILL logic and then execute SET logic for each entry. I have used Fileman reindex to try to clean up phantom index values to no avail. I had to manual kill the index then reindex when the index is regular index and not a B index. I believe it's all Regular indexes. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] AMD chips and VistA
Peter, the AMD Sempron is akin to the Intel Celeron. I would avoid both. You won't go wrong with AMD's Athlon line, though. Also, a PC/laptop's graphics is becoming more and more important. Try to avoid shared memory - where some of the system's RAM is for for video RAM. Chuck On Jun 11, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Peter Bodtke wrote: Are there any known Vista installation issues associated with hardware? I am shopping for a laptop and the AMD processor machines are significantly lower in price. Celeron chip machines are reasonably priced, but I have always found the performance to be wanting. Is the performance of AMD Sempron chips similar? Peter Bodtke ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why you should disable the Autorun in your Windows PC
"I would have loved to be on the inside of the building watching as people started plugging the USB drives in, scouring through the planted image files, then unknowingly running our piece of software."I suspect it wasn't autorun, this time, based on the last part of that sentence from the article's author.If autorun was used, then the malware probably, *probably*, would started immediately and there wouldn't be a need for the victims to "then unknowingly". Also, the following is from Microsoft's Web site. I wonder how many people are going to go through the trouble. Chuck From: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/usbfaq.mspx The Autorun capabilities are restricted to CD-ROM drives and fixed disk drives. If you need to make a USB storage device perform Autorun, the device must not be marked as a removable media device and the device must contain an Autorun.inf file and a startup application.The removable media device setting is a flag contained within the SCSI Inquiry Data response to the SCSI Inquiry command. Bit 7 of byte 1 (indexed from 0) is the Removable Media Bit (RMB). A RMB set to zero indicates that the device is not a removable media device. A RMB of one indicates that the device is a removable media device. Drivers obtain this information by using the StorageDeviceProperty request. On Jun 9, 2006, at 4:48 PM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=95556Autorun has to be how the Trojan got in.-- Bhaskar___Hardhats-members mailing listHardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why you should disable the Autorun in your Windows PC
On Jun 9, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:On Jun 9, 2006, at 5:54 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:Just to be paranoid, Bhaskar, that link is to an " .asp" document. Why does it need to be asp? Is this a website with ill intent? Pardon me for being dense, but what makes .asp a security threat? It indicates the web site is database driven, but so is the WorldVistA site..asp indicates to the Web server that the document has code to be executed, usually _vbscript_. No database is implied or need be involved at all. Much of the Web malware has been code known to cause memory overflows in IE or IIS, giving the hackers an "in".___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Cache Studio
FWIW, it might help to also pose your query to the Cache newsgroup: news://news.intersystems.com/intersystems.public.cache On Jun 1, 2006, at 3:21 PM, James Gray wrote: I ran into something a little bit ago. I was editing a Mumps routine in Studio. I lost my VPN connection and Studio started to crash. It told me it would prompt me to allow me to save the routine locally before closing. When it did prompt me to save the routine, I picked a different location to save the file, but just used the other default values for the name of the file. The routine was saved as XYZSCX.MAC. Then Studio shut down. Right away I was able to reconnect to the VPN and open Studio. I could not find a way to open or reload the saved routine file into Studio. How should I get the saved routine back into Studio? The only way I could find to to do it was to open the routine in Notepad and then paste the whole routine into Studio. Jim Gray___Hardhats-members mailing listHardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Trying to port GT.M to OS X?
I've not had much luck in trying to port GT.M to OS X (Intel). (I hadn't realized that the Continental Shelf was so close to shore.) FWIW, I've started a thread on the forum for GT.M at SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=34584 if anyone is interested. Seemed a more appropriate place for such a discussion. Chuck --- All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Moving the hardhats list to Google groups
Why not change the Google group name? 'WorldVistA', maybe? On May 17, 2006, at 10:15 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Discussions of our VistA will always be dwarfed by discussions of Microsoft VistA. We're a mouse in the elephant exhibit, and the fact that we were there first doesn't change the fact that the elephant is more visible. We have to get used to this new world order. In any case, considering the miniscule volume of posts in that group, it's hardly surprising - there's virtually nothing for Google to search and index. But once our discussions take place there, I believe that searches on VistA CPRS for example, will take seekers to the right place. It's also possible to search within a specific group, and that's what I meant when I said that it would be easier to search using Google search. Being on Hardhats Mailman doesn't make us more visible to the world at large. -- Bhaskar Mike Schrom wrote: If you search Google groups for 'vista', the proper link doesn't come up in the first 75 pages! (I ran out of patience). You get plenty of 'windows vista', and links for a gps device from Garmin, as well as words in spanish and italian. Mike --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Moving the hardhats list to Google groups
Goodness gwacious me! - Elmer Fudd I guess I should have explained myself. Bhaskar's original post suggesting a move to Google seemed to me to imply a name change in the process: from Hardhat-members (at Sourceforge) to vista (at Google). My suggestion to change the group name even further was merely in response to Mike's noting of his concern after trying a search on vista. (A suggestion, I realize, that might only help if people actually used worldvista as their search term.) That was the only reason. I meant no connotation whatsoever. In fact, I believe most people aren't going to care what you call it. Chuck Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. - Freud On May 17, 2006, at 11:28 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: My attempt to post to both lists - Source Forge and Google - failed. Anyay, below is my reply to Chuck. Regards -- Bhaskar K.S. Bhaskar wrote: That would be appropriate if it were a WorldVistA thing. It's not. Indeed, in proposing such a move, I am speaking only as K.S. Bhaskar, individual, and not for Fidelity, WorldVistA, or VistA Software Alliance (since I wear all three hats). Perhaps a better name for a new VistA group at Yahoogroups might be hardhats, although I fear that as the popularity of VistA grows, the connection between the names hardhats and vista will become more tenuous. How about calling the group dhcp? 8-] -- Bhaskar chuck5566 wrote: Why not change the Google group name? 'WorldVistA', maybe? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] DINUM-ish question
I beg to differ. On May 16, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that it does not matter what value I put into the .01 field, and that it will be overwritten such that it stores the newly added records' IEN? Kevin I don't believe so. There is no need for the .01 field to be overwritten. If the value used for the .01 is accepted by the input transform, that value is also used to create the IEN. In fact, it's just the opposite. As long as you have the E in the first parameter in your UPDATE^DIE (your call does), the value that comes out the input transform will be the new record's IEN. If you seed the IEN array before the call (to try to specify the new record's IEN), it's ignored. For example, if you set: TMGFDA(50.67,+1,,.01)= TMGIEN(1)=600 when you make that call (successfully), TNGIEN(1) will come back as . Yes, except that I'm not sure that DINUM applies to DBS calls. An input transform works by setting X to the value that should be used (or killing it to reject the value entirely). However, you need to be careful and not supply input as an internal value, because then the input transform will not be applied. I've been kind of busy (working on a Java project) so I haven't had time to check the documentation for a more elegant solution, but you can also use a a dummy value and then make a second call to set it to the IEN. But you shouldn't need to do that, === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metaphors be with you. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question
You say it's a new(er) machine, and knowing that Debian doesn't release all that often... I'd guess that your controller/drive is SATA and that that version of Debian doesn't do SATA. On May 8, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Well, at your advice, I just tried to install Debian 3.1r2 (sarge I believe). And I was not impressed. The install interface is chui, which seems unnecessary, but I could overlook that. But when it failed to detect that I have a hard disk in the computer, I had didn't know how to overcome that. Fedora did fine with it. After it faild to find the disk, debian takes me to a list of the installation process. I backed up one step to detect hardware. It first loads up floppy modules, but then complains about missing modules that look like they should be for my hard disk. Anyway, I had heard that debian was essentially the same as knoppix, which typically can get almost anything up and running. This is a relatively new Dell desktop: model DCSM. I'm not sure how to tell what my Fedora is doing successfully that Debian isn't. I'm open to ideas, but I think I may stay with this working Fedora 5. Kevin On 5/8/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son also had me abandon Fedora for Debian. He thought there were too many problems with it being too bleeding edge for a critical server. Also, the updating was not as nice predictable as for a Debian based distribution. On Monday 08 May 2006 14:31, Mike Schrom wrote: rpm stands for Redhat Package Manager. SUSE uses the same format and a right click offers an install option. I abandoned Fedora 4 because of a lot of problems, mostly hardware, and have found Kubuntu to be more user friendly. Same KDE gui, but uses the debian package manager, apt seems happier to find dependencies and download them with 1 prompt. Mike Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I am setting up a new server and have gone with Fedora core 5. I really like it so far -- of course that means I think that the KDE GUI is shiny--LOL :-) I downloaded a .rpm and then clicked on it in konqueror. The icon for the .rpm file looks like an installer box, but when I click on it, it asks me what program I want to use to open the file. Is there a rpm installer program? I ended up going to the command line, switching to superuser mode, and typing rpm -i filename. But I thought KDE was supposed to insulate us a bit from that. How do I set up automatic installation when I click on the installer file? Any ideas? Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server
Re: [Hardhats-members] Gone in 30 minutes
OS X is Unix under the covers, which I don't think is any less secure, or more secure, than Linux. I suspect Maury is just trying to devil us. ;-) And I have never had pleasant dreams. Lately, I'm running through a corn field, being stalked by an older gentleman with a bald head, wire glasses, a sneer on his face that looks like a really bad Elvis invitation, whiskey on his breath and one bad-ass shotgun. And yes, I'm naked. On Apr 13, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I heard this discussed on a podcast. Apparently this was where users were given generic (non-root) accounts, and someone was able to get administrator privilages in 30 minutes. A follow-up test was where a mac was put on the net and hackers were invited to try to hack it (without being given accounts.) No on succeeded. But the test was apparently done at a university, and when the powers-that-be found out about it, then shut it down. They didn't want their university network hacked/crashed. So after about 3 hours the test was called off and called a success because the mac wasn't hacked in that time. Kevin On 4/13/06, Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just came across this article from last month. Mac OS X hacked in under 30 minutes www.securityteam.us/article.php/200603061443505 Pleasant dreams. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?
There is no need need to wait or even go to the Apple Developer site. The tools are on the install disc. And if you bought an Intel Mini, then the Intel/Universal Binary tools are included. You can make a wreave bet on it. On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:Yes, it is the non-disclosure agreement. My son advised me against agreeing to it as he said the wording is too subject to interpretation. However, if there is no way around it, then I will have to ignore my lawyer's advice. Well, you can wait for Leopard. I'm not sure, but I think the developer tools for 10.4 (Tiger) on the Intel platform are considered a developer preview. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?
I believe you will find Xcode and other development tools on the install disk, as a separate install. You only need to register with ADC (for free) to obtain the updates. The Intel Macs should be pretty up-to-date. After you do install the tools, you will also have make available to you, which you might try instead of gmake to compile GT.M. On Apr 10, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:On Apr 9, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:Well GT.M doesn't run out of the box. No surprise. Now to try compiling it. I think you may need to register with the Apple Developer Connection (ADC) to download Xcode (the developer tools for OS X). It includes, among other things, appropriate versions of gcc 4.0 and 3.1. The trick here is that even with the BSD subsystem, OS X is still a different operating system and so code needs to be recompiled to run. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?
I don't see how else to get the compilers. The Dev Tools install should be rather innocuous and the folder only takes up about 1 GB of disk space. You maybe also want to look at: Fink - http://fink.sourceforge.net/ or DarwinPorts - http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ Both seem to be rather involved. And both start with First install the OS X Developer Tools. . . On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Is there some other way to do this than with the developers tools? On Monday 10 April 2006 09:30, chuck5566 wrote: I believe you will find Xcode and other development tools on the install disk, as a separate install. You only need to register with ADC (for free) to obtain the updates. The Intel Macs should be pretty up-to-date. After you do install the tools, you will also have make available to you, which you might try instead of gmake to compile GT.M. On Apr 10, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Apr 9, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Well GT.M doesn't run out of the box. No surprise. Now to try compiling it. I think you may need to register with the Apple Developer Connection (ADC) to download Xcode (the developer tools for OS X). It includes, among other things, appropriate versions of gcc 4.0 and 3.1. The trick here is that even with the BSD subsystem, OS X is still a different operating system and so code needs to be recompiled to run. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who are enamored of practice without theory are like a pilot who goes into a ship without rudder or compass. --Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?
FWIW: 1. OS X shares file with Windows and Linux using Samba. 2. http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/publicbeta.html Boot Camp will allow to install Windows on that Intel Mac. It creates a second partition on your drive and you cannot run both at the same time. Hold on - the point of mentioning this that it looks like you may also be able to use Boot Camp to install Linux. 3. OS X comes with Xcode, Apple's software development suite, on the install disk. C, Objective C, C++, Java... 4. Don't dismiss AppleScript. High level, powerful, extendable, easy, readable. I won't be able to, but with all these new Mac people I'd love to come to Pittsburgh and show what it can do. 5. When you come back from Pittsburgh with all those digital photos, have a look at iDVD and how easy it is to create a slideshow DVD. 6. http://www.neooffice.org/ Open source office suite for OS X. :-) On Apr 9, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Well, mayb that will take care of the CPRS part of the puzzle for the Mac. Sounds like you have some Mac geeks around there, Jon. Maybe some of them would like to take a crack at this. I'll be back in about 90 minutes. Any geeks out there that are interested, send me and email and I will get you set up to get in. BTW, in case you didn't guess, I think being called a geek is a compliment, but perhaps I should say guru instead. ;-) On Sunday 09 April 2006 11:19, Jon Parshall wrote: CodeWeavers will also be releasing a Mac version of our CrossOver product in the not too distant future that will allow Windows programs to run on OS/X Intel Macs natively. In beta any day now. Cheers, -jon parshall- COO CodeWeavers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:17 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)? You must be reading my mind. I am just about to go out the door to buy one and get some of you geeks to ssh in and get GTM and VistA running on it. I want to see Osirix working with VistA, and considering this new chip, this seems like an ideal time to try it. I also suspect that the movement of Osirix to Linux will be facilitated by the Mac switiching to this new chip. That said, are you planning to set up a Mini RAID or what? It does not seem like the best choice to me. On Sunday 09 April 2006 10:30, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Does anyone know of any reason that GT.M would not run on the new intel CPU based macs running OS-X, which is based on BSD unix? I may need to buy a new server, and I wonder if one of the new intel-based Mac mini's would work for a small office. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Description of field Type in OPTION file #19
Imran, The VA has its VistA manuals posted at http://www.va.gov/vdl (VistA Document Library). You'll want to select 'Kernel' in the 'Infrastructure' section and choose the 'Programmer Manual' from the listed Kernel docs. Chuck On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Imran Shafiq wrote: Hi All, Options file (19) in fileman contains option entries for all packages in vista. Help (??) on the type field shows that the type field can have one of the following entries: 'A' FOR action; 'E' FOR edit; 'I' FOR inquire; 'M' FOR menu; 'P' FOR print; 'R' FOR run routine; 'O' FOR protocol; 'Q' FOR protocol menu; 'X' FOR extended action; 'S' FOR server; 'L' FOR limited; 'C' FOR ScreenMan; 'W' FOR Window; 'Z' FOR Window Suite; 'B' FOR Broker (Client/Server); I want to know what exactly is the meaning of each of the above types. - menu: represents the menu hierarchy - broker: means the option is allowed access via RPC broker - run toutine: the option entry is associated with a mumps routine but whats the difference between action and run routine? (action doesnt have an associated mumps routine) in short i want a description of all these available types. Regards, Imran Shafiq. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] More Mindless Podcasting
FWIW: I wanted to podcast the 3/24 WV conference call since it was about the next meeting but got a little carried away and added the other March calls that I could get a hold of. http://www.4vista.net/podcast/podcast.xml --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Silent Fileman calls not silent
On Feb 2, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: When I try to do updates to SS Numbers with Fileman silent DB API calls, I occasionally still get messages written to the screen, such as: Note: This is a RR Retirement SSN or The SSN must not begin with 9 Kevin, Try setting ZTQUEUED (to anything) right before making the DB call. Yeah, a kludge - but it might stop some of the messages. It looks like the messages are coming from routines being called from input transforms. If so, it may be an indication that your SSN update was not accepted. If that's true, then simply quieting the message(s) will not change that. Is this a bug? To all, Semantics aside, to me the question is what to (formally) do about this. Wasn't WorldVista talking with the VA about a formal process to report bugs? If so, anybody know what happened to that? (Just a query.) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Please Consider Splitting the Hardhats List
[I place this out in front of everyone so that everyone knows where it came from.] I would like to formally request of the powers that be to please consider splitting this list into two lists: Hardhats-Discussion and Hardhats-Support. Hopefully the two new lists could both be seeded with the members of the original Hardhats-members list. In this way, no one would miss a message. And members could then opt out of either list as they see fit. I'm not looking to deter any discussion and I do not believe splitting the list would do so. Straight up, though, I would like to be able to divert the messages from the new lists to separate folders, and I would be checking one of those folders far more than the other. Thanks, Chuck --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] New Developers, MUMPS language syntax, etal....
On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:12 -0600, Chris Richardson wrote: Greg, have you ever read anything you haven't had something negative to say about it? [KSB] Chris, without commenting on the rest of your message, may I respectfully request that you withdraw this part of it. In order to avoid flame wars that have engulfed other groups, we would like to keep the discussion impersonal and objective, while remaining passionate about our beliefs. Thank you very much. Regards -- Bhaskar Bhaskar, with all due respect to yourself, I was wondering the same as Chris, especially when it comes to VistA. In fact, I thought Greg's response to Chris was a bit smart-ass. Just an impersonal observation, of course. Your tactful chastising of Chris reminded me of an adage in American sports: it's always the guy who throws the second punch that gets penalized. Moderator's an awesome, mostly thankless responsibility, even more so when one takes it upon themselves . . . I do hope we can meet again and discuss this and more over dinner. And I'm still running as root. ;-) Chuck --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] MENU NAMES
Maybe it has something to do with how you're handling the MENU TEST field of the Options file, which looks to be a mandatory identifier. On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:56 PM, James Gray wrote:I am trying to enter a new menu name using menu manager. It will not take AZDC-EAGLESOFTEDPR or a lot of variations that are similar. I cannot figure out why this seems to fail the input transform on file 19. Does anyone know what the problem is? Jim Gray
Re: [Hardhats-members] MENU NAMES
It is something in menu manager. I tried it in Fileman and was able to put it in. Jim Gray In that case it might have been a variable left over from something else that was biting you on your sit-upon. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Steve Jobs: new Intel based laptops to start shipping next month
What's noticeably missing from all those new speed claims is one word: Rosetta. That translation layer that will have to run to be able use all those current great OS X apps, developed for the PowerPC CPU. I'll be interested in some 3rd-part benchmarks. I'll REALLY be interested in somebody hacking OS X to run on AMD CPUs. On Jan 10, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: See http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/10/ MNG3LGL6QO3.DTLtype=tech Apparently, these are dual core processors, and they are claimed to be up to (whatever that might mean) three times faster than the PowerPC. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Lisp, he has any language he pleases. --Guy L. Steele, Jr. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] VPE? VPE?
Thought I'd try VPE, since the Cache Portal does not have a routine editor. When I'm in VPE, using the console (VT100), everything I type echoes back twice, and I usually have to type anything twice so I see it four times. I've mucked with various terminal settings, to no avail. Anyone happen to know what I'm missing? Also, did I not see a posting of the data for a Terminal Type entry for something like C-ANSI? If so, would you be kind enough to report? TIA --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VPE? VPE?
On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Greg Woodhouse says X ^%ZOSF(EOFF) That stopped the echo. Thanks to you both. I still have to type everything twice, though. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] [OT] Appropriate?
My apologies to most everyone but this list seems the best best way to reach a certain set of cohorts. For those who every partook in the MDC's SC16, please consider: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/7666/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Two site database synchronization
Kevin, Apologies if I mentioned this before, but have you looked over the docs for VistA's Master Patient Index (MPI)? (http://www.va.gov/vdl/Infrastructure.asp?appID=16) The MPI is similar to what it looks like you are trying to accomplish - it might you give ideas/insight. I believe the MPI deals only with patient demographics, but it does synchronization of databases and does use it's own patient identifier, they call an ICN. A new patient is given a local ICN, used until the site updates the MPI when the site is given a national ICN for the patient(s). On Dec 28, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I have written about about synchronizing two databases on and off over the last 6 months or so. I have some new thoughts that I would like comment on. First, some context. We have two offices linked by a slow vpn with high latency times (high round-trip time for pings) which makes using CPRS at the remote site a chore. The idea of synchronization was to allow the user to add the data to the local database, but then to have the changes propigated to the remote database. The fundamental problem, as I see it, it a problem of record numbers, or IEN. For example if the two databases are identical at the beginning, and Dr. X's note it put into database A, and Dr. Y's note is put into database B, then these could potentially have the same (conflicting) IEN in the file. Then, with synchronization, one note would clobber the other. But it seems that this problem should be easy to overcome. Each database could simply hold a translation table of IEN's. For example, imaging the following synchronization process. I'll use the terms dbA and dbB to refer to database's A B 1. dbA says to dbB, lets synchronize 2. dbB says, I have a record in file 8925, IEN=1234 3. dbA uses translation lookup table for 8925 and finds no record of IEN=1234, so says, send it to me. 4. dbB sends the record, and dbA adds it to file 8925, with a different IEN, 6789 5. dbA puts in lookup table: dbB-1234=dbA-6789 6. Furthermore, as dbA is adding record 1234, it notes that the record contains pointers to other files, so it looks up each reference and translates the IEN to the local IEN number. And if the record is missing, it requests it from the server (repeating this process). Does this process seem reasonable? The fundamental principle here is that the database entries are the final repository for all of VistA's information. This could possibly be incorrect. For example, some packages are designed so that data can only put into the database through their code. This is achieved, I believe, through secretly defined variables and input screens etc. Also, I have run into problems in the past with adding records, when field Y fails unless field X has already been added. (I think I can overcome this problem with repeated calls to the filing process, because each failed attempt seems to be partly successful, and puts in a little bit more into the record) Any thoughts? Kevin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA- platforms - name change
http://www.intersystems.com/support/cflash/2003announce.html About half way down the page. . . On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Thurman Pedigo wrote: We've used McAfee and Cache for five years without a problem. I would point out we have a hardware firewall and don't use McAfee firewall - also use a licensed version of Cache. Cache has been used under both NT Server, and W2K3 Server (with McAfee) without signs of any problem. thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:05 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA- platforms - name change I am the one who had trouble with McAfee not allowing Cache to work, and just turning it off was not enough. McAfee had to be completely uninstalled, but I heard that the McAfee issue had been resolved. Unfortunatly, I am not sure where I heard it, but I am sure technical support can confirm or deny that. I agree that especially considering I was using the free single user download of Cache, the technical support was both unexpected and excellent. If I recall correctly, this happened the first time I installed Cache. This was before I met Jim Pietila and some of the others at Intersystems who I now pester fairly regularly! When we were in Boston at the WorldVistA meeting hosted by Intersystems, the support was truly unbelievable. Folks shagged out of bed on Sunday to come get things working for us, and that was only a small part of the help we were given. On Sunday 25 December 2005 05:42 pm, James Gray wrote: I hope I am on the right wavelength and right message. I am not aware of problems between McAfee and Cache. What I have mentioned on this list before is that Zone Alarm breaks Cache. To be more precise installing or upgrading Cache with Zone Alarm running will cause things to get screwed up in the install that cannot be fixed with a reinstall. I truly never understood the details. I also had problems with an upgrade of Zone Alarm. I will add that I think that Intersystems technical support for users of their free developers version of Cache is outstanding. That is much more than I can say for Zone Labs tech support. I do not know what if any problems there are with McAfee and Cache. Please do not confuse my complaint about Zone Alarm with McAfee. Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Ronald Ponto To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA- platforms - name change I wish they would log the answer so I wouldn't have to wait for them to answer the phone; I hate talking to Tech support. ---Original Message--- From: Nancy Anthracite Date: 12/24/05 07:26:30 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA- platforms - name change Also, call Intersystems Tech Support because I was told the problem with McAfee had been resolved. On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:16 am, Ronald Ponto wrote: I tried to setup VISTA but had a communication error (I am using Mcafee-which can cause a problem). I don't want to work without a firewall or virus screen so i went the other route. I downloaded the GT-M version and it downloaded pretty fast (I have a 100M connection). After downloading it I tried to write it to CD but my Easy CD Creator wouldn't work with the ISO file and I don't have any other way to read the ISO file. So I have put it on the back-burner till after Christmas- I am working the Christmas weekend including the government holiday which itself is a mess with Monday as the legal holiday. Time to get off my soapbox. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Ron ---Original Message--- From: Thurman Pedigo Date: 12/23/05 10:35:46 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VISTA- platforms - name change Though I don't want to turn this into a Cache/GT.M shootout, I find a resonance in Greg's comments that deserves support. This comment should in no way be taken as criticism of the dedicated members of this list who are quick to lend a helping hand, regardless of platform, to the newbie or people like me with experience in FileMan, though week in coding and plumbing the depths of VistA. I don't mention names to avoid overlooking important contributors - everyone here knows them. In respect to Greg's comment - I find myself winnowing the VistA specifics from the Linux/GT.M posts of this list. I had a go at Linux GT.M and decided that my time may best be spent getting a grip on VistA in a relatively familiar environment. I chose this
Re: [Hardhats-members] What is pharmacy term CMOP?
Central Mail Out Pharmacy or Central Mail-out Outpatient Pharmacy On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I keep seeing the pharmacy term CMOP. I can't see that it is defined anywhere when it is used. Just lots of questions like: Transmit to CMOP? Can someone enlighten me? Thanks Kevin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Gospel of the VA's Electronic Medical Record System
What a canned ham!! ;-) On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Peer To Peer IT Evangelist Spreads the Gospel of the VA's Electronic Medical Record System (Starring Rick Marshall) http://pubsrv.texterity.com/cgi-bin/healthitstrategist? d=healthitstrategist. texterity.comu=/healthitstrategist/200512e=745016 -- Nancy Anthracite --- -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628alloc_id=16845op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628alloc_id=16845op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] C-- : a portable assembly language
Greg, if you look a little deeper, you'll come to Objective Caml. Looks like the Quick C-- compiler is written in Objective Caml. AND, there are Objective Caml binary and source for OS X. (That the original IO module was first named Spitting Caml is pure late-night whimsey on my part.) On Nov 19, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:This is interesting (and, I should think, useful):C--, developed at Microsoft Research in Cambridge, England looks interesting. It's a portable assembly language targeting a number of architectures, including IA-32 (aka x86) and Alpha, but unfortunately, not the PowerPC. I see that libraries are available for Linux, along with front-ends for a number of high level languages. Te web site ishttp://www.cminusminus.org ===Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Before one gets the right answer, one must ask the right question." -- S. Barry Cooper
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
Will there be an audio recording of the call available any time soon? (If so, when?) I'm of course interested in that third topic. Thanks. On Nov 11, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Maury Pepper wrote: *** VistA Community Call -- Friday at NOON EST *** TOPICS: - MSC FileMan - WorldVistA Software Development - VistA on the Mac OS X DATE: Friday, November 11 TIME: 12:00 Noon EDT DURATION: 1 hour. CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS USA 866-483-4159 (toll free) Outside USA 706-634-0093 Conference ID Number: 5361314 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Thanks to Hewlett-Packard and Sharon Mobley for providing the teleconferencing facilities. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] X11 on Macintosh
One of the better places to find 3rd-part software for OS X is Apple itself: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ Even a version of emacs for OS X: http://www.apple.com/downloads/ macosx/development_tools/emacsforosx.html On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: Now that I'm home, I can check and, indeed, the X11 implementation I am using came bundled with OS X. I do remember seeing an implementation available through open source that could be installed separately. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having implemented something does not necessarily indicate that you understand it. --Brian Cantwell Smith (paraphrased) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] HISP and VistA
The short answer is yes. VistA has a specific set of API's through which the various other components can interact with the "database system" and/or the underlying OS. Part of the VistA installation is informing VistA which "database system" is being used so that VistA can then set up the appropriate API's.A little more accurately, VistA relies on M, a programming environment, mostly used as a database system. Cache is but one implementation of M. InterSystems does have a free, single-user, version of Cache available for download (http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html). Another implementation of M - GT.M - is available as open-source at http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm. You can also obtain a live cd of VistA running on GT.M/Linux at http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista/. Hope this little bit of droning helps. On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Simon Andresen wrote:Hello.We are two master students working on a project tied to an open source health information system (HISP) at the University of Oslo (http://hisp.org ), Norway. The aim of our project is to "explore and test free and open source software programmes for use in the health sector, specifically for use in hospitals and medical institutions." And we are trying to evaluate the possibility of integrating parts of VistA. And therefore we have some questions we were hoping the community could help us answer: - As we understand it VistA relies on the use of the Caché database system. And Caché is licensed. Is it at all possible to alter VistA or parts of VistA for use with an altogether different no licensed DBMS? Thanks in advance. Kind Regards, Simon Andresen and Jean C. Wadja
Re: [Hardhats-members] DEBUGGING IN CACHE
Have you tried the up-arrow/down-arrow keys? I know that at the Cache command prompt those keys give the command history but I don't if that functionality is available to the debugger. If so, might help a little. On Oct 31, 2005, at 6:17 PM, James Gray wrote: Unfortunately I can find no evidence that my Dell keyboard has that capability. Jim - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] DEBUGGING IN CACHE Some keyboards have programmable keys that would help. You could just press a key, and out would come the magic S+ Kevin On 10/31/05, James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone figured out how to make dubugging using the Cache debugger go faster. You can single step very fast by pressing G rtn but it slows the flow when you have to keep going back to either B S+ or B S- Maybe it just me, but I cannot type those strings quickly. Jim Gray --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
Maury, Did the call happen? Is there a wav available? Thanks, Chuck On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Maury Pepper wrote: VistA Community Call Friday at NOON EDT. TOPICS: General VistA topics - your choice DATE: Friday, October 21 TIME: 12:00 Noon EDT DURATION: 1 hour. CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS USA 866-483-4159 Outside USA 706-634-0093 Conference ID Number: 5361311 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Thanks to Hewlett-Packard and Sharon Mobley for providing the teleconferencing facilities. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M for Alpha/AXP available at Source Forge
On Oct 21, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tell me, Greg, are you FINALLY going to be able to run VistA on that laptop of yours? ;-) 'Bout time. Not quite...it's just a G4 (different architecture). Which runs an open-source Unix. . . === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Einstein was a giant. He had his head in the clouds and his feet on the ground. -- Richard P. Feynman --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] No globals allowed
It's not C, or a derivative thereof? On Oct 14, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: If you are not allowed to user persistent data structures (i.e., globals) what is the most convincing case you can make for the utility of MUMPS vs. other programming languages? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. --Niels Bohr --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Podcast Proof [WAS: VistA Community Conference Call]
I thought I'd celebrate the holiday/day off with a little mindless droning. I've created a podcast of the latest VC community call, mainly as a proof of concept. The subscribing URL is www.4vista.net/podcast/WVCCC.xml. You can also browse to www.4vista.net for a link to the podcast. It's not perfect - an earlier (today) version of the xml with a wrong link is cached somewhere. It's not refined - as I've said, a proof of concept. And, yes, it's an MP3 file, 7MB's worth. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types
FWIW, so would I. Any general idea, Rick, what it would take? Would Michael be willing to help with this? I'd be concerned about parallel but separate paths, as discussed before, but VA sites are starting to complain that can't even get adequate support for the current system, let alone any new development. On Oct 8, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Frederick D. S. Marshall wrote: Dear Michael, FileMan version 22 was originally suppsed to include extensible data types, including typing of functions, which would have taken us halfway to real methods. There was discussion of sub- and super-types, but we were going to wait to decide whether to include it in 22 or wait for 23 depending on how quickly the extensible data types work proceeded. Michael Ogi demoed his code to us, and it was beautiful, even including multi-field datatypes like blood pressure. Unfortunately, VA management at the time (1994? 5?) pulled the plug because we would be leaving FileMan within the next year or two, something none of the technical folks believed was possible. Time has proven the management of that time wrong, and the technical folks correct. With Rob Kolodner and other pro-VistA managers at the helm now, VA may support us in resurrecting this work; we could take Michael Ogi's work back off the shelf, update it for the current version of FileMan, and release it. In the meantime, FileMan will let you do sub-typing and super- typing manually, by coding all the logic to support it in MUMPS and weaving it into FileMan through programming hooks. Also, mechanisms such as that Greg has described, along with certain package-specific features, can be leveraged to speed things up for you. Yours truly, Rick I, for one, would love to have that work see the light of day. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing is as powerful than an idea whose time has come. -- Victor Hugo --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Language extensions in GT.M - a possibility? a necessity? a bad idea?
Isn't this one of the reasons GT.M was kind enough to release the source code, to allow the _community_ to produce changes/improvements/additions? Except for the very core functions that are not open-source, I believe we have the technology. We can rebuild it. ;-) On Oct 6, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:If GT.M were to implement this, certainly someone would have to fund it. Perhaps a more generalized approach would be good, where GT.M allows "plug-in" modules for language extension? Then again, I think it already has ways to call into and out of external languages, so perhaps it is already there. Kevin On 10/6/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a very general question, but given the level of interestin language extensions, I wonder if extending GT.M beyond the existingANSI standard is a possibility. Of course, updating the standard is the most desirable course, but is that an option?Implementations such as Cache' offer extensions to the language thatare now verboten in VistA, and given the community's interest inrunning VistA on GT.M, I would not want to see changes that were incompatible with GT.M.===Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]"Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries would not have been made." -- Albert Einstein---This SF.Net email is sponsored by:Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl___Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Language extensions in GT.M - a possibility? a necessity? a bad idea?
Bhaskar, I was thinking of hard disk writes - a misinterpretation from talks we've had, for which I gladly apologize. On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Chuck -- I am not sure what core functions are not open source. Every last line of source code for GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux has been released under the GPL. Note that we have chosen not to release the source code for GT.M on other platforms under the GPL (it is available for a price to those who license it, but not under GPL). But given that 100% of GT.M as implemented on x86 GNU/Linux is GPL'd, what core functions were you thinking of that are not open source? Regards -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of chuck5566 Sent:Thu 10/6/2005 1:20 PM To:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Language extensions in GT.M - a possibility? a necessity? a bad idea? Isn't this one of the reasons GT.M was kind enough to release the source code, to allow the _community_ to produce changes/ improvements/additions? Except for the very core functions that are not open-source, I believe we have the technology. We can rebuild it. ;-) On Oct 6, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: If GT.M were to implement this, certainly someone would have to fund it. Perhaps a more generalized approach would be good, where GT.M allows plug-in modules for language extension? Then again, I think it already has ways to call into and out of external languages, so perhaps it is already there. Kevin On 10/6/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a very general question, but given the level of interest in language extensions, I wonder if extending GT.M beyond the existing ANSI standard is a possibility. Of course, updating the standard is the most desirable course, but is that an option? Implementations such as Cache' offer extensions to the language that are now verboten in VistA, and given the community's interest in running VistA on GT.M, I would not want to see changes that were incompatible with GT.M. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries would not have been made. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list mailto:Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members winmail.dat --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Development Study: Haste Makes Waste
One that comes to mind starts something like There's never enough to do right. . .;-) On Oct 3, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: I have I heard this before as an aphorism with a lot fewer word but exactly the same meaning. As I recall, I heard Rick Marshall pass it on as a quote from someone else about what happens when you add more programmers to a project. On Monday 03 October 2005 05:23 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote: From today's ACM Tech News: Development Study: Haste Makes Waste Computerworld (09/23/05); Hayes, Linda A recent study has found that increased funding has little impact on the overall quality of a project. Qualitative Software Management's estimation product, known as SLIM, provides an empirical analysis of a variety of projects addressing IT, real time embedded systems, and engineering. Offering accurate project estimation has been a long-standing but elusive goal of the software industry. In repeating a study it had conducted in 1996, SLIM confirmed that the delivery difference between a large team and a small team was only 12 days; that result came partially because large teams created more than six times the number of errors as small teams. Large teams failed to deliver significant improvements in cost, time, or quality, widely recognized as the three major metrics of software development. The SLIM study confirmed the theory that adding more resources to a project yields diminishing returns. The efficiency of small teams is fostered by an atmosphere of intimate collaboration, and the information produced does not take as much time to sink into each member of a smaller team. The diminishing quality stems from the absence of a holistic view of the project when it is broken down into compartmentalized segments and distributed to each member of a large team; this approach can lead to errors and complications that arise from cobbling together bodies of code written by different authors not in communication with each other. http://www.computerworld.com/developmenttopics/development/story/ 0,10801,104 846,00.html === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries would not have been made. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Data dictionary question
FWIW: I seem to recall that to do this you also have to set DA(0) (or DA(1)) to the file number. On Sep 28, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Yes I did it by hand. And I think I have learned my lesson. I don't think I will do it again :-\ Thanks Kevin On 9/28/05, chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, did you change the global;piece field by hand? I've changed that very same DD field a few times, by using Fileman to edit Fileman, which to me is geeky cool.. (A tip of the hat to George for making it possible, even as he cringes when anything does it.) Goes something like this: S DIE=^DD(2005.2, S DA=22700 S DR=4 D ^DIE I believe that if you make the change this way, FM takes care of the GL node (an x-ref?) for you. Chuck On Sep 27, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: OK, so I felt really stupid for shooting myself in the foot. So I figured out. It is stored in ^DD(2005.2,GL,7,1,22700) When I changed it to ^DD(2005.2,GL,22700,1,22700), then everything because consistent. I used my debugger to trace through the GLOBAL LISTING code and saw what it was doing. Thanks anyway. Kevin On 9/27/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trick/Quick question: Where all is the node;piece stored in the data dictionary? I ask because I think it is stored in two places, and I can only find one of them. I had added a field (#22700--my number space) to file 2005.2 using the screenman form method (mistake!). Turns out that the screenman way doesn't allow one to specify the node to store data on. I then had the option of deleting the field and entering everything back in again. I had written lengthy descriptions so wanted to avoid that if possible. I had not entered any actual data into the field, and had created no cross-references, so I thought that I could change its DD definition OK (you know about assumptions...). I found that $p(^DD(2005.2,22700,0),^,4) = 7;1 I didn't want my data stored in note 7, so changed this to 22700;1 Now, when I use VPE data dictionary browser, it looks fine (shows 22700;1). And when I go to enter data in with Fileman, it is fine--the file goes in, and when I come back to edit it again it is still there.. But when I do I do an INQUIRE of the data I added, it doesn't show. And when I do the LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES, and in GLOBAL MAP listing format, it still shows the old 7;1 So apparently the node;piece is stored in more than one location. Any idea where the other location is? Thanks Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Inpatients???
Do you have an option named PSJ OE? (I ask rather than see for myself because I've done the classic totally screw my system by upgrading bit.) On Sep 26, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Samuel Fontanez wrote: Hi chuck: Well first i populate the 101.43 medicine file but then i don't know what to do to assign that medicine to my inpatients. --- chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you trying to do it? What problem are you having? Thanks, Chuck On Sep 23, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Samuel Fontanez wrote: If anybody know how to add a medicine for an inpatient? A patient that had a bed and a ward assign. Thanks, Samuel __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Data dictionary question
Kevin, did you change the global;piece field by hand? I've changed that very same DD field a few times, by using Fileman to edit Fileman, which to me is geeky cool.. (A tip of the hat to George for making it possible, even as he cringes when anything does it.) Goes something like this: S DIE=^DD(2005.2, S DA=22700 S DR=4 D ^DIE I believe that if you make the change this way, FM takes care of the GL node (an x-ref?) for you. Chuck On Sep 27, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: OK, so I felt really stupid for shooting myself in the foot. So I figured out. It is stored in ^DD(2005.2,GL,7,1,22700) When I changed it to ^DD(2005.2,GL,22700,1,22700), then everything because consistent. I used my debugger to trace through the GLOBAL LISTING code and saw what it was doing. Thanks anyway. Kevin On 9/27/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trick/Quick question: Where all is the node;piece stored in the data dictionary? I ask because I think it is stored in two places, and I can only find one of them. I had added a field (#22700--my number space) to file 2005.2 using the screenman form method (mistake!). Turns out that the screenman way doesn't allow one to specify the node to store data on. I then had the option of deleting the field and entering everything back in again. I had written lengthy descriptions so wanted to avoid that if possible. I had not entered any actual data into the field, and had created no cross-references, so I thought that I could change its DD definition OK (you know about assumptions...). I found that $p(^DD(2005.2,22700,0),^,4) = 7;1 I didn't want my data stored in note 7, so changed this to 22700;1 Now, when I use VPE data dictionary browser, it looks fine (shows 22700;1). And when I go to enter data in with Fileman, it is fine--the file goes in, and when I come back to edit it again it is still there.. But when I do I do an INQUIRE of the data I added, it doesn't show. And when I do the LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES, and in GLOBAL MAP listing format, it still shows the old 7;1 So apparently the node;piece is stored in more than one location. Any idea where the other location is? Thanks Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Inpatients???
How are you trying to do it? What problem are you having? Thanks, Chuck On Sep 23, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Samuel Fontanez wrote: If anybody know how to add a medicine for an inpatient? A patient that had a bed and a ward assign. Thanks, Samuel __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
Bhaskar, The September LinuxFormat has a very favorable, but very short review of the Slax mini-distro: http://slax.linux-live.org There is also a MySlax Creator, which lets you add modules to a Live CD or install it to a USB drive: http://myslax.rabidhutch.co.uk Chuck On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:28 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: I have been waiting for a couple of months for the Knoppix light CD that is due out any day now. My left hand has a private bet with my right hand as to whether it will come out before VistA Office EHR. Yes, I could build on 3.9 for now. -- Bhaskar On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 09:06 -0500, Mike Lieman wrote: On 8/30/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Effective V4, Knoppix has expanded to over 3GB. Creating OpenVistA VivA releases based on Knoppix V4 would mean releases of over 3.5GB - they What about the Knoppix Light CD sized version? It's not out JUST YET, but they say REAL SOON, NOW... Couldn't you do it today on 3.9, and have it ready for the 4.01 light? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/ bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: OS X? [WAS] [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
I did have VistA running on Cache under Panther. I used a Cache.dat from Hardhats. I was also able to run CPRS and the Cache Cube on the same Powerbook running WinXP via Microsoft's Virtual PC 7. I haven't looked at it though, since I installed Tiger. (Widgets are all the rage now.) Point is that it can be done. On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Jason Essington wrote: This is a little OT for this thread, but has anyone been successful getting OpenVistA running on OS X? I would be interested on hosting the server side components on OS X server, but GT.M doesn't appear to have an OS X version, and my first attempt at installing Cache on OS X (10.4) wasn't successful (but I didn't really try that hard to figure out what went wrong). An OS X pkg would be really nice, but I suppose it is a niche market and the effort to create such a package may not be warranted. -jason On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:29 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network effect message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier to get user buy in if the users feel they can use their favorite Linux distribution (or, while we're at it: What about Solaris, HP/UX, OS X, (Free|Open|Net)BSD, OpenDarwin, OpenVMS, or even Windows)? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/ bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Good Mac Programming Book
A recommendation to the other three Mac people on this list: Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (2nd)' by Aaron Hillegass (Apple includes its complete set of development tools and apps with the OS.) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions
I certainly intend to stay with OS X as long as it's practical to do so, and I know that there is a contingent of clinicians out there that would very much prefer to not give up their Macs. I'd like to request a separately mailing list for us Mac fanatics so that we don't bore the snot out of the rest of you. I had started to looking at porting the RPC client code to OS X, but now I've been enchanted by the Siren Song of the Widget. :-) On Aug 22, 2005, at 6:58 PM, David Sommers wrote: I believe the issue was related to compiler specific optimizations in the C implementation of the M compiler. Bhaskar's been quiet lately but we've discussed this on the list before. I was interested because I simply love my MAC. Even though I'm about to paste in part of the discussion to port, I think we should just wait. Apple will switch to x86 next year and they will more than likely follow in the footsteps of Sun - by providing a run-time library that can execute linux compiled code natively. On top of that, FreeBSD so closely matches that Apple documents the differences easily enough to scope the port: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/ KernelProgram ming/BSD/chapter_11_section_3.html Here's a piece of our previous discussion... -- On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 01:46 -0500, chuck5566 wrote: Agree wholeheartedly, Chris. I would suggest: 1st - Determining that level of interest, and where it's at. Are people really interested in a GT.M for OS X, or would clients on OS X that could converse with GT.M and the RPC broker (on a Linux box elsewhere) be enough? Or both? Might be time for a Hardhats-OSX list. [KSB] Since there is a GT.M (non open source; non free) for IBM eServer pSeries (nee RS/6000) AIX, a port to Mac OS X from this would be straightforward, but would need to be performed by Fidelity. A port to Mac OS X from GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux (open source free) would require retargeting the M compiler (the database would just go over, since it vanilla UNIX for the most part). So, creating a client would be almost as much work as porting GT.M. 2nd - If the interest for GT.M on OS X is sufficient, I'd first straighten out the legalities before starting any work or even looking for funding. Chuck GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux is released under the GNU General Public License (GPL). If it is used to port GT.M to Mac OS X by anyone other than Fidelity, then the resulting work would be covered by the GPL, and is best released under the GPL. -- Bhaskar -- David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:15 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions No, the issue is that it's necessary to compile MUMPS (not C). In principle, there's no reason why it can't be done. --- Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike GT.M, it does not generate machine language in compiling MUMPS source routines so I would expect no special surprizes due to the shift from X86 on FreeBSD to PPC on OS/X. Why can't the complier generate the correct machine code for the RISK ? Is binary outputs embedded into the source code of GM.T? Ruben --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development
Re: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)
I say it's time for the return of the Pirates of the MDC. I say we tie the scurvy dog to the yardarm, with hee's own USB and PS2 cables. A! On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Actually yesundortunately I don't have the list admin password. The list admin can temporarily disable responses from this email address and send the person and email saying they will be reinstated when they return to the office. Greg Kreis is traveling from what I know so may not be enjoying this like we are. Joseph Ruben Safir wrote: Can we do somethingabout ths? On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:43:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office from Monday 8/1 through Friday 8/5. If you need immediate assistance please contact your Quatrex client representative. Thank you. Bill Soler Quatrex Technical Support 800.446.3393 ext. 87 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
I can't help wondering about the future, if the VA does re-engineer VistA. I can't help wondering about the irony if, by that time, the rest of the world has adopted VistA/VistA-Office as the standard. On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: The VistA demo server seemed to be down earlier, and the speculation is that it was from being swamped with business since the NY Times article. If that is true, wait until VO is released. On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:46 pm, chuck5566 wrote: I believe Joseph was mentioned in there somewhere also. Goodness gwacious me! All these celebrities - I'm going to have to bring an autograph book to the next meeting!:-) On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Greg, give me a call at the office: 205-943-2311 On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: Yes. Now all I have to do is figure out how to install a new cache.dat and set up the mappings without the benefit of the Cache cube. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The policy of being too cautious is the greatest risk of all. --Jawaharlal Nehru On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:27 PM, chuck5566 wrote: Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download from InterSystems. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
I believe Joseph was mentioned in there somewhere also. Goodness gwacious me! All these celebrities - I'm going to have to bring an autograph book to the next meeting!:-) On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download from InterSystems. On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
Richard, If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're sticking with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows. http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful. On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote: I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said: Learn M and FM v21 for free Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details. I chose the download and the readme says: The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that the three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the following path. C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\ It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the > of things... Thanks ~ Ric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt Are you using Cache or GT.M? Jim Gray x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerCarroll, Richard (EDS)/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerhardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt/x-tad-bigger I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt? Thanks, Ric
Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
Geez, just try and complement some people. . . On Jun 21, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Actually, this is an anything you want to run VistA group as this is the Hardhats mailing list. It happens to have a big, noisy contingency of WorldVistA/GT.M users, but M is M whether or not Intersytems mentions it on their web page and you can practice M in Cache just fine. On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:02 pm, chuck5566 wrote: Richard, If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're sticking with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows. http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful. On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote: I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said: Learn M and FM v21 for free Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details. I chose the download and the readme says: The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that the three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the following path. C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\ It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the of things... Thanks ~ Ric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt Are you using Cache or GT.M? Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Carroll, Richard (EDS) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt? Thanks, Ric -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Wireless in the enterprise?
FWIW: My GP has been using a wireless PDA for over a year now. He uses it to order my meds/refills and Lord knows what else. He's very happy using it. His office still uses paper records - he tells me they're going electronic soon. On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: This article from Queue may be of interest http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=301 I cannot help but wonder what benefits wireless PDAs have to offer in terms of the usability (and acceptance) of an EHR system. The most profound technologies are those that disappear. --Mark Weiser Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Links in Unix/Linux
I thought it was: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: Files in Linux don't actually have names. Instead directories are a special kind of file (but not a special file!) containing a list of names, and for each name, what is called the inode for that file. You can think of it as a list (i.e., a directory) of name/inode pairs. Anyway, every time a directory contains an entry like this, it is called a hard link. You can have as many links as you want to a file (you create them with ln), but you should have to be root to link to directories because of the danger of creating loops. There is another kind of link, called a symbolic (or soft) link, that is actually a file containing the name of the file it is a link to. In this sense, a link of this type is very much like a shortcut or .lnk file in Windows (though the file itself is hidden from you). You create these links with ln -S. The most profound technologies are those that disappear. --Mark Weiser Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] REALbasic for Linux
[ This is meant simply as information, not as an ad. I have no involvement with REAL Software other than as a customer. ] http://www.realsoftware.com/news/pr/2005/2005r1/lnx/ REAL Software has announced a beta release of the Linux version of their REALbasic 2005 development software. It's available for download now. They claim the Standard version for Linux will be free. Here's a snapshot of their Linux IDE: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic2005/lin_ide.jpg Call me goofy, lazy, even late for supper - I just really prefer an IDE when I can get it. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to get the MailMan client
Is this what you're looking for? http://www.hardhats.org/projects/GUIMail/index.html (Downloads near bottom of page.) On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 AM, Usha wrote: Is the MailMan client available for downloading? If yes, then where? Or else can anybody tell us when the MailMan client be available? Regards Usha
Re: [Hardhats-members] HHS buys Novell
Well hell! Your msg title had me wondering what the heck HHS was and why they were buying (out) Novell. I think you did that on purpose! :-) On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163702338 --- -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Connection Problem
Could it be that you Linux firewall is not allowing access to port 9200? Have you looked at http://www.hardhats.org/projects/VistA_Install/CPRSStart12.html ? Chuck On May 25, 2005, at 10:05 AM, vista wrote: Hi, I'm a new user of Vista and I'm interested for implementing it in a hospital on Morocco (North Africa), and I need help from u if it is possible. I've installed and configured OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050212.tgz on a redhat linux PC by following steps in Worldvista Forum, and I've downloaded the CPRSchat (OR_30_195), but when I run CPRSchart.exe s=192.168.1.225 p=9200 its window disapeers after a few moments and I can't make the connection. I think there is a problem in RPC broker or in Linux TCP/IP configuration but I didn't find it. Best Regards
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to create a java client for openvista
You might check out Web-FixIT, at: http://www.uku.fi/tike/fixit/english.html On May 18, 2005, at 4:29 AM, srikanth wrote: Hello, I am trying to create a simple java to openvista. I couldn't get much information about the OpenVista Architecture and necessary components to interact with OpenVista. Kindly, let me know these details. Regards, Srikanth --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Open-source Graphics ( was VistA licensing.)
David, I was just adding information. I apologize if it came across as anything else. Chuck On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:37 PM, David Sommers wrote: The point wasn't the graphics application itself but the licensing around the Paint.NET open source project. I, personally, come from publishing so I keep my Photoshop up-to-date. On my *nix boxes, I do use Gimp but I recommend Paint.NET to anyone with Windows. A ton easier to setup and use (no package manager for Windows, didn't realize how many clicks it took to download and install). Check out the comparison screenshots. My 4-year old son uses Paint.NET and it makes sense to him (although he prefers Tux Paint over that but it's because of the colorful fill-in cartoon templates, eh - he's 4). http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/ http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/screenshots.htm Don't knock it till you try it. /David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566 Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Open-source Graphics ( was VistA licensing.) JIC anyone didn't know, if you're looking for a open-source Photoshop alternative, check out: http://www.gimp.org Runs on Windows, Linux and OS X. Outside of Linux distros, one of the more awesome open-source efforts. On Apr 30, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I just got around to searching for Paint.NET I can't find it. Can you post a URL? Thanks Kevin --- David Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that the most flexible license is one that doesn't exist - such as Public Domain. One of my favorite little programs is a Photoshop like replacement for Windows called Paint.NET. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Open-source Graphics ( was VistA licensing.)
JIC anyone didn't know, if you're looking for a open-source Photoshop alternative, check out: http://www.gimp.org Runs on Windows, Linux and OS X. Outside of Linux distros, one of the more awesome open-source efforts. On Apr 30, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I just got around to searching for Paint.NET I can't find it. Can you post a URL? Thanks Kevin --- David Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that the most flexible license is one that doesn't exist - such as Public Domain. One of my favorite little programs is a Photoshop like replacement for Windows called Paint.NET. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman cross-reference questions
I know that you can fire off x-refs by making calls to various linetags in ^DIK. Maybe what you're looking for is there? On Apr 25, 2005, at 11:43 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: OK, but where is the code stored? Thanks Kevin --- Greg Kreis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM automatically executes the 'set' and 'kill' logic at the appropriate times, when the cross-referenced field is edited.This means the cross-reference can be thought of as a field event. Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Hey all, I've come to that time in my life where someone needs to sit me down and tell me all about well... fileman cross-references. And I specifically want to know how to fill them with the data I want. Let me set up my situation first. I am trying to understand the linkages between files etc. that make up the pharmacy package. Currently, with Dave Whitten's help, I have one drug that shows up when I try to add a new drug in CPRS. Here is an overview of the steps that go behind getting information about the drug to show up in CPRS. 1. CPRS is given a list of available drugs. This list is stored in File 101.44 (ORDER QUICK VIEW). In my example, diltiazem is stored as an option like this: 44^DILTIAZEM. This 44 is the IEN of the Rx in file 101.43 (ORDERABLE ITEM). 2. During lookup, it uses record/entry# 44 from 101.43, and gets the ID field (field 2). This is supposed to have a format like this: 'package code;99XXX' where XXX indicates the package table originating this item (i.e. RAP,LRT,etc.). In my example, the code was 1. 3. This package code is then used to access a cross reference in file #50 (DRUG file, ^PSDRUG). It accesses it like this: $order(^PSDRUG(ASP,1,0)), where 1 is the package code from above. Because I have only one drug installed, there is only one item in this cross-reference. This is 3819. Thus ^PSDRUG(ASP,1,3819)=. 4. This 3819 from above is the IEN of the drug in the DRUG file. From this entry, the available dosages etc. are available. 5. So to make drugs available in CPRS, file #50 (DRUG file) must not only have the drug defined, but there must also be entries entries in the ASP cross reference. -- OK, that's the setting. Now, what I have been able to figure out 1. When I lookup information about the ASP cross-reference in VPE, I see only this info about the index: IndexFile Fields *ASP 50 PHARMACY ORDERABLE ITEM (#2.1) So I look it up in the Fileman data dictionary utilities and get this information: ASPREGULAR Field: PHARMACY ORDERABLE ITEM (50,2.1) Description: Cross-reference to PHARMACY ORDERABLE ITEM file #50.7. 1)= S ^PSDRUG(ASP,$E(X,1,30),DA)= 2)= K ^PSDRUG(ASP,$E(X,1,30),DA) 3)= Do not delete - So here are my questions: 1. Apparently there is some M code associated with each cross-reference. When is this code executed? 2. Where is this code stored? When I look in ^DD, I find only ^DD(50,0,IX,ASP,50,2.1)= and ^DD(50,IX,2.1)= 3. From above, it looks like there is separate 'setting' code and 'killing' code. Is this true? 4. How is the cross-reference filled? -- I think I just figured out the answer on this one. It occurs when a value is put into field 2.1 in one of the file #50 records. I think I have more questions, but that's enough for now.. Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
[Hardhats-members] Selling OpenVistA
Not a big deal, but please consider: Whenever I come in contact with health care professionals outside of the VA, and it's seems appropriate, I bring up and explain a little about OpenVistA. I'll give them the URLs for WorldVistA, Hardhats or both. Thing is, it's always on some scrap of paper that I'm sure gets lost. What I was thinking that it might be nice to print out some OpenVistA business cards. They wouldn't have my name on them, just maybe a logo, OpenVistA displayed prominently and the WorldVista and Hardhats URLs. This would seem to me to be much better than scraps of paper to spread the word. If there is interest in this, I would prefer to use an official, standard, design. What I'd really is be able to include some sort of catch phrase, something like Very affordable, very comprehensive healthcare IT. (I feel I need to point out that I wouldn't include open-source in this phrase, it just seems to muddy the waters at first.) And if I was WorldVistA, I'd copyright the phrase. MORE IMPORTANTLY Thinking about that catch phrase got me believing that WorldVistA should produce http://openvista.worldvista.org - a site with the primary purpose of selling OpenVistA. A site that would be designed to grab visitors and pique their interest about the product itself. Something with a screenshot of CPRS prominently displayed. This is the URL I'd like to put on the business cards. And I'm not trying to take away from the WorldVistA and Hardhats Web sites. They of course have plenty of great information on VistA, but you have to go fishing for it. Thanks, Chuck --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Hospital Cost analysis
A little tidbit: MDE originated in the VA a while back, as 'Interoceter''. It was dismissed by VHS IT at that time, and now sites are PAYING for it as MDE. I'm not surprised anymore, though. I put an ad in the paper for an old but working printer for $25 - no takers. So I give that same printer to a computer consignment store and it sells right away for $50. On Apr 16, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: This is what I found from this web-site. http://www.virec.research.med.va.gov/DataSourcesName/VISTA/ VISTAaccess.htm#SQL SQL http://www.virec.research.med.va.gov/DataSourcesName/VISTA/ VISTAaccess.htm#Top Investigators planning to construct a relational database of VistA data will find that few sites offer direct access to VistA data using SQL (Structured Query Language). Instead, data are most often exported from VistA with an M or MUMPS ( Massachusetts General Hospital Utility Multi-Programming System) program and then mapped to a relational database . Commercially available software applications like MUMPS Data Extractor (MDE) and KB SQL allow direct SQL access to MUMPS data. Another M-based SQL mapping system is built into VistA's Cache. A few sites have the necessary software for direct M-to-SQL access but several more tried and abandoned it. They found it was too expensive and/or put too much strain on the operation of the local VistA system. The VA FileMan application SQL Interface (SQLI) was an attempt to provide the data dictionary information needed to map VA FileMan files to a relational database. SQLI is not able to provide access to VA FileMan data on its own. Instead, it provides information about VA FileMan's internal data dictionary to an M-to-SQL application like KB SQL or MDE. Since the available M-to-SQL products can map VA FileMan data without help from SQLI, SQLI has not been heavily used. Molly Cameron Schlehuber wrote: VistA uses the Data Extracts package to collect and pass out data specifically for the purposes of management decisions support for budget analysis, projection, business changes for better use of resources etc. The tool used for the analysis is a COTS product ($). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eriam Schaffter Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:21 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Hospital Cost analysis Hello all this is Eriam Schaffter I'm in europe and i'm working on a cost analysis software for hospitals. Is there such a module in OpenVista ? If not i would investigate the need for integration of OpenVista with the software i'm working on, could you tell me if there would be an interest for such a solution (a light business intelligence tool) in the world of OpenVista. For integration techniques i'll have to go into the code but is there any way to fetch datas from Openvista with sql queries ? Thanks Eriam Schaffter --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396opÌk ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up.
Agree wholeheartedly, Chris. I would suggest: 1st - Determining that level of interest, and where it's at. Are people really interested in a GT.M for OS X, or would clients on OS X that could converse with GT.M and the RPC broker (on a Linux box elsewhere) be enough? Or both? Might be time for a Hardhats-OSX list. 2nd - If the interest for GT.M on OS X is sufficient, I'd first straighten out the legalities before starting any work or even looking for funding. Chuck On Apr 12, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Chris Richardson wrote: Chuck; I spoke with one of the folks who did the port of GT.M to MAC OS X two years ago and they said if there was enough interest and the status of such a port could be clarified, that they could do it again. We would love to set up a project on this and will need at least two separate organizations to be involved, one doing the port and one doing the testing. So if there are enough folks out there who would need to see this, they need to get their interest known. This is a project which can be accomplished, but we have some things to get straight; 1) Level of interest? 2) Level of involvement (actual participation, monetary, review, testing, documentation, platforms, etc)? 3) Legal status of the resulting product? Still Open Source? under what license? If we can get enough folks involved and committed, this could happen in a short time frame. - Original Message - From: chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up. Well hell . . . On Apr 11, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Thanks for the clarification, Maury. Yes, Fidelity will be offering Oracle (and perhaps DB2 someday) as an alternative database for our Profile banking application. We are not replacing GT.M or dropping support for GT.M, or moving GT.M to Oracle. Indeed, it is my opinion that the majority of Profile customers will choose GT.M when they make choices about configuring Profile, but ultimately it is all about the customer's choice rather than our choice. Since database configuration is managed at the level of the Profile application code layered on top of GT.M, the topic is completely irrelevant to VistA on GT.M. I don't recollect anything from the VistA Community Meeting about GT.M being ported to Mac OS X by anyone in the user community. Except for running it on Linux in an emulated PC, porting to Mac OS X from the open source port to x86 GNU/Linux would be a non-trivial effort. -- Bhaskar On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 10:59 -0500, Maury Pepper wrote: Two items got blurred together. There is a possibility that GT.M will be ported to MAC OS X. On the recent GT.M survey, it was one of the items one could vote for as a future enhancement. Also, Brian Lord and Jeff Abbott did this port about two years ago but the work was lost when the laptop used for development was redeployed for other uses. He says they can do it again when time allows. The other item is that Bhaskar mentioned that Fidelity's banking product would be available in the future with an optional Oracle backend database along with the current GT.M version. Institutions will have a choice which version they want based on their needs and the performance specs. - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Ignacio Valdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up. Ignacio, I think it will be ported to the MAC, not Oracle. At the meeting I heard two programmers had done it a few years ago and no longer have their code, so the hope is to do it again. On Sunday 10 April 2005 07:54 pm, Jim Self wrote: Ignacio, In the article you wrote: announcement that GT.M will be ported to Oracle. Is that an error? If not, what does it mean? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists
Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up.
Well, those of you who know me know that I'M happier than a pig in poop to read this!:-) A little tidbit: Not too long ago, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUIC) replaced their 208-node Linux-based system with a 640-node Apple Xserve system. UIUC is where the graphic Web browser was born. On Apr 10, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Ignacio, I think it will be ported to the MAC, not Oracle. At the meeting I heard two programmers had done it a few years ago and no longer have their code, so the hope is to do it again. On Sunday 10 April 2005 07:54 pm, Jim Self wrote: Ignacio, In the article you wrote: announcement that GT.M will be ported to Oracle. Is that an error? If not, what does it mean? Ignacio wrote: Hello all, With the gracious help of Nancy Anthracite and without benefit of actually attending the Boston meeting, I have created this summary of the meeting: http://www.linuxmednews.com/linuxmednews/1113172411/index_html If there are major announcements and discussions that I did not include, please feel free to reply to the article and add it or e-mail me with a description and I will be happy to add it. I will be going for wide dissemination of this report which means thousands of 'foreign' visitors. -- IV --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up.
Well hell . . . On Apr 11, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Thanks for the clarification, Maury. Yes, Fidelity will be offering Oracle (and perhaps DB2 someday) as an alternative database for our Profile banking application. We are not replacing GT.M or dropping support for GT.M, or moving GT.M to Oracle. Indeed, it is my opinion that the majority of Profile customers will choose GT.M when they make choices about configuring Profile, but ultimately it is all about the customer's choice rather than our choice. Since database configuration is managed at the level of the Profile application code layered on top of GT.M, the topic is completely irrelevant to VistA on GT.M. I don't recollect anything from the VistA Community Meeting about GT.M being ported to Mac OS X by anyone in the user community. Except for running it on Linux in an emulated PC, porting to Mac OS X from the open source port to x86 GNU/Linux would be a non-trivial effort. -- Bhaskar On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 10:59 -0500, Maury Pepper wrote: Two items got blurred together. There is a possibility that GT.M will be ported to MAC OS X. On the recent GT.M survey, it was one of the items one could vote for as a future enhancement. Also, Brian Lord and Jeff Abbott did this port about two years ago but the work was lost when the laptop used for development was redeployed for other uses. He says they can do it again when time allows. The other item is that Bhaskar mentioned that Fidelity's banking product would be available in the future with an optional Oracle backend database along with the current GT.M version. Institutions will have a choice which version they want based on their needs and the performance specs. - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Ignacio Valdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Boston wrap-up. Ignacio, I think it will be ported to the MAC, not Oracle. At the meeting I heard two programmers had done it a few years ago and no longer have their code, so the hope is to do it again. On Sunday 10 April 2005 07:54 pm, Jim Self wrote: Ignacio, In the article you wrote: announcement that GT.M will be ported to Oracle. Is that an error? If not, what does it mean? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer
I have nothing to do with this company, other than being a customer. I just thought this might interest somebody. Check out: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/vb6/ It's an offer for the Standard version of their Visual Basic-like development software. It's free 'til the end of this month. They have Windows and OS X versions of their software, and the free version is for Windows. THE REASON I bring this to your attention is that the Professional version lets you compile to a Linux binary, from either Windows or OS X. Just a thought. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer - More
On Mar 24, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I haven't seen yet how to make a linux app, but its a cool this tool. I'm afraid you have to pay for the Professional version for that feature. I just thought the (free) Standard version was an excellent way to find out if it's worth it to anyone, plus I don't think it expires. I like that you can use the exact same codebase to compile to Windows, OS X, AND Linux. I don't mean to sound like an ad - I'm just looking to make life easier. I like that I can write apps for Linux from my Mac. I came across something else today: http://gambas.sourceforge.net - a visual basic IDE to run on Linux. It's open source, but not as polished. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] House VA Committee is recommending a $400 million cut
So, not only is the VA's effort to replace their own, WORKING, home-grown software with COTS (Commercial, Off The Shelf, software), not working, it's going to cost them. . . The VA is not in the software business. (VHA IT's mantra a few years back.) On Mar 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Committee calls for VA tech cut The House Veterans Affairs Committee is recommending a $400 million cut in the VA's proposed IT budget for 2006. http://www.fcw.com/article88249 -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] BAPI32 files?
I've downloaded and installed several of the BDK files and not found what I was looking for. I got BAPI32.DLL when I installed the Workstation files - it's automatically placed in C:\Windows\system. Chuck On Mar 10, 2005, at 9:43 AM, David Sommers wrote: They are RPC Broker related files. You'll probably find them in the BDK set of files. Part of the BDK is the DLL Headers (.H for C, .BAS for VB6, etc). But the BAPI32.DLL itself is not the latest version out there. I found that out the hard way. The BAPI / RPC Delphi library (include) is the latest. /David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:51 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] BAPI32 files? Chuck, Are these CPRS files? Kevin --- chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking for the BAPI32.* files (.H, .BAS, etc.) like a blindfolded child whacking at a pinata. Uncle. Please, which file are they buried in. Thanks In Advance, Chuck (Chris, Dave, I know I owe you calls.) --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Another oddity - scope of NEW in DSM
FWIW, I've got to concur about DSM. I've been brought in several times to deal with the vendor(s) when the implementations have been found to work differently. In each case, I've found that was DSM that has followed the standard. Chuck On Mar 10, 2005, at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...why is the oddity in DSM? In the past I have discovered instances in which DSM was the only implementation of M in which the standard was correctly implemented. The 'oddity' was in all the other systems. Go figure ??? Not having a standard document at hand, I am wondering where in the standard is the 'programmer mode' mentioned at all. Regards, Richard. From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/10 Thu PM 04:36:15 GMT To: Hardhats hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Another oddity - scope of NEW in DSM A co-worker just pointed out the following oddity that occurs in DSM, but not in Cache: N A S A=100 W A 100 N A S A=100 W A %DSM-E-UNDEF, undefined variable A -DSM-I-ECODE, MUMPS error code: M6 Reviewing sections 7.1.2.2 and 8.2.14 of the standard, it's not clear to me that the scoping rules in programmer mode are clearly defined. A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival
Not a thing, just for you, big boy!;-) Do I really need to write a proposal to NOT change something? Couldn't I just wait and address any proposals for change? On Mar 4, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Chris Richardson wrote: Geez, Chuck; You don't call, you don't write, and then you come out of left field with a difference of opinion That is OK. Write up the proposal for the specification as you see it and float it as an RFC. You might get a following for your opinion. This is the wonderful thing about community, there is so much opportunity for difference of opinion. It would be boreing if everyone thought the same way. By the way, what are you wearing?? Chris - Original Message - From: chuck5566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival I'm afraid that I still couldn't disagree more. (I know, like THAT really matters.) I LIKE writing in M. One of things I appreciate about M is it's simple left-to-right order of precedence (OoP). I know M's OoP swims against almost every other language, as does my opinion. Maybe it's because I've used M's OoP long enough to appreciate and make use of it, or maybe I'm just too simple minded. ;-) Serious, maybe order of precedence could be an M system parameter in future versions. Cheers, Chuck On Mar 4, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Chris Richardson wrote: I could not agree with you more, Kevin. Grouping the equations is the most rational idea. Depending upon precidence is a great way to build in an obscure bug. I haven't trusted a precident since Nixon. ;^) Have a great weekend. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival Greg, I agree that the M way of calculating this is different from other languages. But you couldn't change this without breaking old code. I would say, for good coding practice, that the line be written like this: (2+3)*4 or 2+(3*4) depending which you were really wanting. In other words, just make the extra effort to be clear. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, that's easy: MUMPS is hard to learn because 2+3*4 = 20. :-) Can you think of even one other language (using infix notation, that is) where this is true? (Okay, okay, I don't know MIIS, but it might be an exception.) --- Sowinski, Richard J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did everyone get so dumb ? You learned M. I learned M. When did it all of a sudden get so difficult to learn it ? Are you saying we were smarter than the upcoming generation ? I don't think so. The real problem with Vista right now is not the language. It is the shear size of it, and the rat's nest of poorly documented code under the hood, which is the result of years of patching already patched code. I liken it to a huge wad of gum. A redesign in M is as valid as a redesign in any other language. In fact, it would be much simpler. VA already has the installed base, and the in-house expertise. We'll find out 10 years from now (maybe) when the current redesign is finished, how well it works , and how many people it takes to support it. Oh yeah, by the way, outsourcing has worked really well. CoreFLS was a grand success. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of steven mcphelan Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:06 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival I believe Cameron's statement about the VA management not being able to back off of migrating to a newer platform is probably very close to the truth. However, I am sure that there were some real business management decisions made (or at least I hope so). I saw an article recently that estimated that 40-50% of the current VA IT staff will be retiring in the next 5 years. If I was a manager of VA IT I would be very concerned about that. I would seriously consider moving my technology to a platform that enables me to recruit competent IT staff without having to rely on in-house training for the next generation of VA IT support. I would even consider technology that is inferior to my current technology as long as the new technology meets my needs and gives me greater flexibilty in personnel matters or provide me the opportunity to competitively outsource some IT functions. = A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members
