RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Veech
What motherboard would you recommend for OCing the 3800+ X2?  I would need
PCI-express slot for the video card.

And would an overcolocked 3800+ x2 significantly outperform the 4000?

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:11 PM
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Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Both the video card and the processor will make a huge difference.  You may
find yourself better off, though with a 3800+ X2.  Incredibly, Incredibly
overclockable.  I haven't overclocked spit since the Celeron 300A, but the
3800X2 overclocks as a virtual guarantee in every configuration I've ever
tried with no heat difference.





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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:45 PM
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Subject: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Got FEAR today at Circuit City...  odd because it isn't supposed to be out
until Tuesday.

I'm having the same problems as I did with the demo.  I want to play this
game smoothly, but it stutters at times, especially when entering a new
area, as if it's bogging down while drawing the next envioronment.  I always
know when a baddie is going to pop up because the game stutters.

Here are the specs:

Min reqssuggested   my system
planned upgrade
P4 1.7G P4 3.0 GP4 3.0G Athlon64 4000
512MB RAM   1GB RAM 512MB RAM   1GB RAM (or
more?)
Radeon 9000 vid 256MB 9800Pro   128MB 9800Pro Geforce 7800GTX
256MB


Yeah, I'm going to shoot the moon on the video card.

Is the video card upgrade going to make the biggest difference, or is
bumping the RAM the first thing to try to solve this stuttering?

The game itself, based on the demo, is going to be more cinematic than any
other game I've ever played.  My system is 2 yrs old, and it's forcing me to
upgrade.

thanks for any suggestions..

Veech



RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Veech
Thanks JW, any recs on RAM mfgs?  I may try the 2G of slower RAM to start,
since it's the one upgrade I can carry forward into my new system.

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Hello Veech,

Upgrade the RAM first. Even older titles like Far Cry, UT2004, Doom 3 and
HL2
would only run smoothly for me once I had 1GB (and IIRC even 768MB). You
probably know this, but keep in mind that more of slower RAM (ie. not the
fancy
Redline / Ballistix / ??? stuff) is always better than less of faster RAM
:)
IIRC, BF2 really needs 1.5 - 2GB (blame that on EA).

The 9800 Pro is still a great card (did you OC it?) but is definitely
getting long in the
tooth (think 1024x768 at mid-level details for (IMHO) playable frame
rates). A decent
purchase would be a X800GTO^2 (emphasis on the ^2) which can be unlocked
to
a full 16-pipelines (since it was built from a surplus shipment of R480
cores) and OC'ed
to X850XT PE speeds (~$200), though you might want to consider a 7800GT
(~$290 after rebates).

The A64 4000+ is definitely nice - you'll get plenty of envy from me ;)
I'm only gunning for a Sempron 3400+ S754 PCI-E platform...

HTH

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JW




RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Chris Reeves
Why do that, though?  Seriously, you can get Sempron64 bit procs now, and
Sempron 939 procs are finally starting to be available for us to put out. 





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin-Wei Tioh
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:59 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

At 12:10 AM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
Both the video card and the processor will make a huge difference.  You 
may find yourself better off, though with a 3800+ X2.  Incredibly, 
Incredibly overclockable.  I haven't overclocked spit since the Celeron 
300A, but the
3800X2 overclocks as a virtual guarantee in every configuration I've 
ever tried with no heat difference.

Hello Chris,

That's true, but don't discount the 90nm Semprons :) Of course, a S-754
PCI-E Sempron budget setup is for people like me, lol...

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RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Chris Reeves
Well, depends on the app.  The 3800 X2 easily overclocks to 2.5Ghz, and
OC'ing to about 2.3-2.4Ghz is a snap.  So you get the same speed + dual
core.  Do the math ;)

I'm using an Asus SLI board which overclocked it just fine.  

CW

 





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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

What motherboard would you recommend for OCing the 3800+ X2?  I would need
PCI-express slot for the video card.

And would an overcolocked 3800+ x2 significantly outperform the 4000?

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:11 PM
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Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Both the video card and the processor will make a huge difference.  You may
find yourself better off, though with a 3800+ X2.  Incredibly, Incredibly
overclockable.  I haven't overclocked spit since the Celeron 300A, but the
3800X2 overclocks as a virtual guarantee in every configuration I've ever
tried with no heat difference.





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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:45 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Got FEAR today at Circuit City...  odd because it isn't supposed to be out
until Tuesday.

I'm having the same problems as I did with the demo.  I want to play this
game smoothly, but it stutters at times, especially when entering a new
area, as if it's bogging down while drawing the next envioronment.  I always
know when a baddie is going to pop up because the game stutters.

Here are the specs:

Min reqssuggested   my system
planned upgrade
P4 1.7G P4 3.0 GP4 3.0G Athlon64 4000
512MB RAM   1GB RAM 512MB RAM   1GB RAM (or
more?)
Radeon 9000 vid 256MB 9800Pro   128MB 9800Pro Geforce 7800GTX
256MB


Yeah, I'm going to shoot the moon on the video card.

Is the video card upgrade going to make the biggest difference, or is
bumping the RAM the first thing to try to solve this stuttering?

The game itself, based on the demo, is going to be more cinematic than any
other game I've ever played.  My system is 2 yrs old, and it's forcing me to
upgrade.

thanks for any suggestions..

Veech



Re: [H] Net slow today?

2005-10-17 Thread chuck


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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Net slow today?



get rid of AOL, will stop 99%


What I am about to say required people sticking together. Will not happen.

Best way to trash AOL would be for over 90% of the non AOL people to cut off 
any email communications to and from email addresses with the @aol.com 
domain.


Chuck 



RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns... Now which SLI

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Dodge
 Which do you feel is the best SLI board for the money? I have been looking
at the Epox 9NPA but every one seems to be going to the ASUS A8N Deluxe or
the Abit AN8. Has anyone seen any advantages on one over another? They are
all around the same price. A 3800 X2 is a little rich for me, what is the
best single core for around 200?


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:59 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

Well, depends on the app.  The 3800 X2 easily overclocks to 2.5Ghz, and
OC'ing to about 2.3-2.4Ghz is a snap.  So you get the same speed + dual
core.  Do the math ;)

I'm using an Asus SLI board which overclocked it just fine.  

CW

 





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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:14 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

What motherboard would you recommend for OCing the 3800+ X2?  I would need
PCI-express slot for the video card.

And would an overcolocked 3800+ x2 significantly outperform the 4000?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:11 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Both the video card and the processor will make a huge difference.  You may
find yourself better off, though with a 3800+ X2.  Incredibly, Incredibly
overclockable.  I haven't overclocked spit since the Celeron 300A, but the
3800X2 overclocks as a virtual guarantee in every configuration I've ever
tried with no heat difference.





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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:45 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns


Got FEAR today at Circuit City...  odd because it isn't supposed to be out
until Tuesday.

I'm having the same problems as I did with the demo.  I want to play this
game smoothly, but it stutters at times, especially when entering a new
area, as if it's bogging down while drawing the next envioronment.  I always
know when a baddie is going to pop up because the game stutters.

Here are the specs:

Min reqssuggested   my system
planned upgrade
P4 1.7G P4 3.0 GP4 3.0G Athlon64 4000
512MB RAM   1GB RAM 512MB RAM   1GB RAM (or
more?)
Radeon 9000 vid 256MB 9800Pro   128MB 9800Pro Geforce 7800GTX
256MB


Yeah, I'm going to shoot the moon on the video card.

Is the video card upgrade going to make the biggest difference, or is
bumping the RAM the first thing to try to solve this stuttering?

The game itself, based on the demo, is going to be more cinematic than any
other game I've ever played.  My system is 2 yrs old, and it's forcing me to
upgrade.

thanks for any suggestions..

Veech



RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Chris Reeves
I think that's about to change.  I think you'll start seeing 939 Semprons in
the hands of small (mom/pop) OEMs fairly quickly.

CW 





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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:35 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

At 01:54 AM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
Why do that, though?  Seriously, you can get Sempron64 bit procs now, 
and Sempron 939 procs are finally starting to be available for us to put
out.

Hello Chris,

I'll give you that, though aren't Sempron 939s only available to OEMs right
now?
AMD already cracked down pretty hard on OEM CPUs getting in to the hands of
CPU purchasers earlier this year.

Of course, we know you could always hook us up :)

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Re: [H] Replacing Ghost

2005-10-17 Thread Rob Finger HWG
Can you boot off a usb drive with this product.  I have looked at this 
for Ghost but can't seen to do this (Corp Version).  It would be handy 
for our techs this way.


I have them using BartPE for now because it offers Ghost plus other 
things as you all know.  I am assuming that can boot of a USB Drive am I 
correct?


Rob

CW wrote:

The ability to make a complete image while not mirroring the temporary  swap 
files into your image is a giant space/time saver.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:57:36 -0500
To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Replacing Ghost



I guess you'd have to look at the features in ghost 10 and ATI 9 and see if
there is something there that you'd like to have.

Bobby

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Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:53 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Replacing Ghost

I still use the last version of Drive Image and it works great. Why 
would I need to switch?










RE: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh

At 08:41 AM 10/17/2005, you wrote:

I think that's about to change.  I think you'll start seeing 939 Semprons in
the hands of small (mom/pop) OEMs fairly quickly.

CW


Do those have 128KB or 256KB of L2 cache? I guess that they'll support
AMD64, CnQ, etc. off the bat? Also, what speed grades are they coming in?

Curious mind wants to know :)

Many TIA.

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Re: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread JRS
Ditto.  I went to 1 gig and stuttering stopped for many games as well.  I
guess they need to pre-cache lots and lots of pics and textures these
days.  :)


Hello Veech,

Upgrade the RAM first. Even older titles like Far Cry, UT2004, Doom 3 and HL2
would only run smoothly for me once I had 1GB (and IIRC even 768MB). You
probably know this, but keep in mind that more of slower RAM (ie. not the 
fancy
Redline / Ballistix / ??? stuff) is always better than less of faster RAM :)
IIRC, BF2 really needs 1.5 - 2GB (blame that on EA).
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Re: [H] F.E.A.R. -- slowdowns

2005-10-17 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh

At 09:15 AM 10/17/2005, you wrote:

Ditto.  I went to 1 gig and stuttering stopped for many games as well.  I
guess they need to pre-cache lots and lots of pics and textures these
days.  :)


Been true since about last summer. Now you have sloppily coded games
like Battlefield 2 gobbling up 2GB! :Q

I really, really, really hope that Elder Scrolls IV does not turn out the same
way - as well as FEAR, SS2, DODS, etc.

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Re: [H] Net slow today?

2005-10-17 Thread Harry McGregor
Even with non-text emails, the bandwidth usage of email really is not
that big on the grand scheme of things.

With transit prices as low as they are (as long as you are buying real
bandwidth, comercial stuff, in large pipes), in the $10-50/mbit, it
really is not that bad.

I have seen a lot of people at U of A whenever network cost gets brought
up saying that we should Limit our internet traffic and such.  U of A
has 70 Mbit and 135Mbit for I1, and 155Mbit for I2 (soon to go to
2.5gbit).  The cost for the I1 connections really is not that high
considering you have over 40,000 students behind it.  The real cost is
running the U of A network itself, a cost that would not go away even if
you cut the campus from the internet.

Not some simple bogon filtering and junk packet filtering (RFC 1918
source address?) can save a fair amount of bandwidth by itself
(20-30Mbit was the savings for U of A).


Harry

On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 18:09 -0600, Brian Weeden wrote:
 It's not email really but the non-text emails.  All those fancy inline
 images and rich text and audio and crap.  Ban all that and require all
 email to be plain old text and you can send as much email as you want.
 
 --
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[H] Sound Blaster Audigy 2 generating static in center and front channels

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
this has been building up for a while now...today it got worseI 
hoped the PC up, cleaned out the dust, remove the SB and clearned the 
slot connected, then reinserted...static popping still present in front 
and center channels, not in rear.  Popping doesn't seem to match up to 
any activity, other than the PC being on...it did get seemingly worse 
when I connected my iPod to the front firewire port.  but generally it's 
crappy, poppy sound 24/7 now.  If I disconnect from the speakers, no 
sound, so I think it's coming from the SB.  My speakers are the Klipsch 
ProMedia 5.1s.


what to try next?  I'm at the SB site trying to find some knowledge 
there. so far, nothing.


Re: [H] Sound Blaster Audigy 2 generating static in center and front channels

2005-10-17 Thread Winterlight


what to try next?  I'm at the SB site trying to find some knowledge 
there. so far, nothing.


Over the years I have had a static problem with my SB cards on many 
occasions. This is why I like onboard sound ... never have a problem. Right 
now I have my SB Live in a old Tyan Tiger with a ATI All in Wonder 7500 and 
every time I record something there is the static... you barely hear it, 
but it is there. This occurs in both 2K and XP so I know it is a hardware 
issue.


Past experience has shown me that this is caused by some kind of or IRQ or 
Memory address conflict. The only way I have solved it is by moving things 
around in their slots, or just start pulling cards out one at a time, and 
then see if it gets better. It is a painful and tedious process but it is 
the only way I have ever been able to deal with it.


I haven't done this on my own problem yet because it is just too much of a 
hassle.





Re: [H] Sound Blaster Audigy 2 generating static in center and front channels

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Winterlight wrote:



what to try next?  I'm at the SB site trying to find some knowledge 
there. so far, nothing.



Over the years I have had a static problem with my SB cards on many 
occasions. This is why I like onboard sound ... never have a problem. 
Right now I have my SB Live in a old Tyan Tiger with a ATI All in 
Wonder 7500 and every time I record something there is the static... 
you barely hear it, but it is there. This occurs in both 2K and XP so 
I know it is a hardware issue.


Past experience has shown me that this is caused by some kind of or 
IRQ or Memory address conflict. The only way I have solved it is by 
moving things around in their slots, or just start pulling cards out 
one at a time, and then see if it gets better. It is a painful and 
tedious process but it is the only way I have ever been able to deal 
with it.


I haven't done this on my own problem yet because it is just too much 
of a hassle.



Interesting.  I seem to have memories like that too.  This system has 
been fine until I started plugging things into the front drive-bay 
unit.  I have an Delphi Roadie 2 that I like to listen to while 
working...so I'd plug it into the front break out box from 
time-to-timeseems like that's when I started noticing these 
problems.  Most times, I'd just get a pop now and then...but lately, 
it's so bad that I have to turn by speakers off. Muting the sound 
doesn't help, either.


Seems like it's always somethingmust be getting time to upgrade...


[H] Watch out for MS udpates

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

I walked right into this one just this morning:

http://ct.zdnet.com.com/clicks?c=581154-7256505brand=zdnetds=5fs=0

Dammit, MS.


[H] Nero - Dual burner question

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Heid
Hey,

I have two burners in my system.  I know (well, I think I know) that Nero
can burn the same files to multiple burners at the same time.  But is it
possible to burn different files to different burners at the same time?  If
so, how?

Thanks,
Bobby



Re: [H] Nero - Dual burner question

2005-10-17 Thread Brian Weeden
On 10/17/05, Bobby Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,

 I have two burners in my system.  I know (well, I think I know) that Nero
 can burn the same files to multiple burners at the same time.  But is it
 possible to burn different files to different burners at the same time?  If
 so, how?


I would say with IDE, not unless you have them on different channels. 
Otherwise it is my understanding that only one device at a time on an
IDE channel can use that channel.  For example you have a DVD drive as
IDE 0 and a HD as IDE 1 on the same ribbon (master and slave).  You
cannot transfer data to both from another device at the exact same
time.  Now, whether those millisecond gaps that this causes will screw
up your burns, dunno.

I think with SCSI and SATA this becomes a non-issue from a bus access
standpoint.

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Re: [H] Nero - Dual burner question

2005-10-17 Thread FORC5
never tried tried it but maybe open nero and do 2 windows.
fp

At 12:34 PM 10/17/2005, Bobby Heid Poked the stick with:
Hey,

I have two burners in my system.  I know (well, I think I know) that Nero
can burn the same files to multiple burners at the same time.  But is it
possible to burn different files to different burners at the same time?  If
so, how?

Thanks,
Bobby

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RE: [H] Nero - Dual burner question

2005-10-17 Thread rls
I have done it plenty with 2 Plextors (IDE). Open up two Nero Burning
Windows. Select the one burner in the one window, and the other burner in
the second widows and go from there.

I have them both on the same channel the 716a as the main and the 712a is on
as the secondary. I HAVE YET TO BURN 1 coaster doing this. I have burned
atleast 50 DVD's with data this way. At one point I had a 3rd DVD on a
different channel and actually did 3 at once, but I pulled that DVD out and
put it in another computer - it was an NEC.

I have 2 Xeon's 2.8 with 2gb of mem so they don't starve for resources
either

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:35 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] Nero - Dual burner question

Hey,

I have two burners in my system.  I know (well, I think I know) that Nero
can burn the same files to multiple burners at the same time.  But is it
possible to burn different files to different burners at the same time?  If
so, how?

Thanks,
Bobby



Re: [H] Firefox 1.0.7 questions

2005-10-17 Thread Rob Finger HWG
I listen to TWIT (This Week In Tech) with the old Screen Savers crew 
from TechTV.  They were saying that every time someone searches Google 
with the built in search box in MozillaGoogle pays Mozilla.  I think 
the number was about 14 million last year.  So keep on using it I say!!!


Rob

Brian Weeden wrote:

On 10/14/05, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In Opera every tab has a X, so to close it I only have to click the X, just
like a window. But in Firefox I have to use the right click context menu to
close a tab... is there a faster way?



Try tabbrowser preferences extension.



In Opera I can just drag tabs to the position I want them, but in Firefox
the tabs are fixed?



The version of Firefox in beta has this feature (Deer Park  Beta 2).



In Opera, I really miss this, I can right click on a page and using the
context menu set a reload time period...defaults start at 15 seconds up to
30 minutes but I can also setup whatever time I want ... or even tell it to
reload if the server requests it. Is there a way to do this with Firefox?



I don't know if you can set a specific time to refresh but I think the
Live Bookmarks feature might work.



Any special extensions I should consider installing?



What I have currently installed:

ForecastFox
Adblock
Adblock Filterset Updater
Flashblock
Flashgot
NoScript
Googlebar
gTranslate
MediaPlayerConnectivity
Tabbrowser Preferences
Download Statusbar
Dictionary Tooltip
All-In-One Sidebar

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Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates

2005-10-17 Thread jeff.lane

Did you have some of the problems in the article?

Jeff


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To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: [H] Watch out for MS udpates



I walked right into this one just this morning:

http://ct.zdnet.com.com/clicks?c=581154-7256505brand=zdnetds=5fs=0

Dammit, MS.




Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

jeff.lane wrote:


Did you have some of the problems in the article?

Jeff



Yes. Firewall crapped out, trendmicro went funky, windows installer 
diedall of which happened right after I installed the updates this 
morningluckily, that happened on my second PC and not my main work 
machine (where the sound card is popping to my speakers like 
crazy)...else I'd have gotten nothing done today.





- Original Message - From: Anthony Q. Martin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: [H] Watch out for MS udpates



I walked right into this one just this morning:

http://ct.zdnet.com.com/clicks?c=581154-7256505brand=zdnetds=5fs=0

Dammit, MS.





Re: [H] Firefox 1.0.7 questions

2005-10-17 Thread Brian Weeden
On 10/17/05, Rob Finger HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I listen to TWIT (This Week In Tech) with the old Screen Savers crew
 from TechTV.  They were saying that every time someone searches Google
 with the built in search box in MozillaGoogle pays Mozilla.  I think
 the number was about 14 million last year.  So keep on using it I say!!!


I love that podcast.  I look forward to the drive every Tuesday
morning when I listen to that week's episode.

--
Brian



Re: [H] Sound Blaster Audigy 2 generating static in center and front

2005-10-17 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh
Didja plug anything new into the PC recently? For some reason, plugging in a 
new Crucial Gizmo flash drive introduces all sorts of funky noises in my 
Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA ;(




Re: [H] Sound Blaster Audigy 2 generating static in center and front

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I'm always plugging in my various USB flash drives...but right this 
moment, I have nothing beyond my scanner, printer, and firewire backup 
HD plugged inand nothing new at thatof course, this has been 
building up for a while...but today it has taken a new turn in that it 
much more consistent and load.  Right now, it's going like crazy if I 
turn the sound up.  In all channels even. Shit.  I wonder if my speakers 
are going badif I unplug, then the sound go away...that made me 
think the problem was in the sound card...hmmm...these promedias take 
the sound signel into a big black box whhich holds the sub




Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:

Didja plug anything new into the PC recently? For some reason, plugging in a 
new Crucial Gizmo flash drive introduces all sorts of funky noises in my 
Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA ;(



 



Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates

2005-10-17 Thread joeuser

Sounds like fun!


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Yes. Firewall crapped out, trendmicro went funky, windows installer 
diedall of which happened right after I installed the updates this 
morningluckily, that happened on my second PC and not my main work 
machine (where the sound card is popping to my speakers like 
crazy)...else I'd have gotten nothing done today.



--
Cheers,
joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)


Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
A microsoft auto update broke this, they ought to be requried to fix 
it.  I don't even understand how to follow their instructions to fix it, 
either.


joeuser wrote:


Sounds like fun!


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Yes. Firewall crapped out, trendmicro went funky, windows installer 
diedall of which happened right after I installed the updates 
this morningluckily, that happened on my second PC and not my 
main work machine (where the sound card is popping to my speakers 
like crazy)...else I'd have gotten nothing done today.






Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
turns out the fix was pretty easy...instructions weren't so great, 
though.  Just two lines to type in and run from a command prompt...



Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

A microsoft auto update broke this, they ought to be requried to fix 
it.  I don't even understand how to follow their instructions to fix 
it, either.


joeuser wrote:


Sounds like fun!


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Yes. Firewall crapped out, trendmicro went funky, windows installer 
diedall of which happened right after I installed the updates 
this morningluckily, that happened on my second PC and not my 
main work machine (where the sound card is popping to my speakers 
like crazy)...else I'd have gotten nothing done today.









Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed

2005-10-17 Thread Al

Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 turns out the fix was pretty easy...instructions weren't so great, 
 though.  Just two lines to type in and run from a command prompt...
 
 

Cool, so tell the lines  :)


Al


Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed

2005-10-17 Thread jeff.lane
I wonder if that update only affects PCs that have had their default 
permissions changed at some time. Mine were at the default and none of my 
.clb files had been altered for some time.


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed


turns out the fix was pretty easy...instructions weren't so great, though. 
Just two lines to type in and run from a command prompt...



Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

A microsoft auto update broke this, they ought to be requried to fix it. 
I don't even understand how to follow their instructions to fix it, 
either.


joeuser wrote:


Sounds like fun!


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Yes. Firewall crapped out, trendmicro went funky, windows installer 
diedall of which happened right after I installed the updates this 
morningluckily, that happened on my second PC and not my main work 
machine (where the sound card is popping to my speakers like 
crazy)...else I'd have gotten nothing done today.




Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Al wrote:


Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

turns out the fix was pretty easy...instructions weren't so great, 
though.  Just two lines to type in and run from a command prompt...



   



Cool, so tell the lines  :)


Al

 


echo y| cacls %windir%\registration /G everyone:R system:F administrators:F
echo y| cacls %windir%\registration\*.clb /G everyone:R system:F 
administrators:F



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909444


Re: [H] Watch out for MS udpates -fixed

2005-10-17 Thread Al

Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Al wrote:

 
 Cool, so tell the lines  :)
 
 Al
 
 
 echo y| cacls %windir%\registration /G everyone:R system:F administrators:F
 echo y| cacls %windir%\registration\*.clb /G everyone:R system:F 
 administrators:F
 
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909444



Thx  :)

Al


[H] UPS battery ?

2005-10-17 Thread FORC5
red light on my tripplite is saying bad battery

batteries are $25 ea ( need 2 ) plus shipping 

seems like it would  be better to buy a new unit for $99

opinions ?
is APC better ?
thanks


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Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
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A big enough hammer can usually fix anything.
If it jams, force it, if it breaks it needed fixing anyway.




RE: [H] UPS battery ?

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Dodge
Batteries can be had for around 6 to 8 bucks local, I'll dig up the co. 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:31 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] UPS battery ?

red light on my tripplite is saying bad battery

batteries are $25 ea ( need 2 ) plus shipping 

seems like it would  be better to buy a new unit for $99

opinions ?
is APC better ?
thanks


--
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
A big enough hammer can usually fix anything.
If it jams, force it, if it breaks it needed fixing anyway.