Re: [H] IP stuff?
You're welcome for the link. There's not just an IP involved here, but also a port. Something else likely is using a port that homer needs to use. You run into this when you try to run more that one of the same kind of client or server software the needs a specific port on a machine. A simple "netstat -a -b -n" at the command prompt should tell you what ports are occupied on your machine and what Process & ID's (PID) is responsible. Not using FF yet? What are you waiting for, an engraved invitation? Need IE for a few sites? Stop running the Iexplore EXE and use FireFox extension "IETab" to toggle what you are rendering through in FF. I use it all the time to deal with M$ incessant need to "validate" me using an activeX control when I want to download something. There is no true way to make IE safe for general browsing, no matter what you add on. DHSinclair wrote: > j_maccraw - Thank you for the link to a newer version of tcpview. That > did show me some very interesting stuff that just generates more > questions, but does not show what I seek 4now. Thank you for the newer > version. It is much better that the old version I had been using. > Interestingly, I see nothing connected to "127.0.0.1" specifically. I > do see lots of internal windows/? stuff connected to "0.0.0.0:" > ports doing their thing. From what I can see, all looks very normal and > placid. Yes, I do see legitimate calls/connections to all my LAN > clients (10.0.0.x) from eset's remote admin console and remote admin > service. I expect these and they do come and go as I expect them to. > > Brian Weeden - Brian I do know that the ip addy of 127.0.0.1 is both > non-routable and can not be resolved across my home LAN. This is not > what I was asking. I am trying to find out "who/what" is "attached > to/listening" to this internal ip addy in my server that keeps a proggy > I am trying to use from working. The proggy is "homer" from > FunkyToad.com. Maybe this proggy is lame. :) > > Thane - You reply really has me scratching my head. I do not have a > router in play (yet). I know that the ip addy is my internal machine > loop-back address. But, whenever I try to run the "homer" proggy, it > fails saying "someone else is camped out listening to this address." > Well, Duh, yea, I would only hope my server (proper) is listening to > its' loop-back addy (127.0.0.1). As B4, maybe this "homer" proggy is > truly lame.. :) > > So, at this point, I may need to query FunkyToad about this and the > "homer" proggy. I will admit that the instructions are sketchy at best, > but I am up for a challenge. I only chose this route because this > proggy is rated highly via the mvps.org site. And, I am playing with > their latest "hosts" file. I am testing this "hosts" file as an added > bit of protection for IE6. > > No, I am not ready to dump IE and goto FireFox! FireFox will not allow > me to do my banking biz. And, I am not ready for multiple browsers. > Besides, this may be a future topic for me as I read about the good/bad > from other List Members using FireFox! > Best, > Duncan > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
AMS makes junk, avoid! was Re: [H] Dead hdd--freezer!
All I know is it was in a laptop on my desk running 24/7 and one day I found it dead. It's less of a loss than the drive I just lost due to over voltage from a design flaw in the AMS Venus Dock laptop cooler. I had just started using a spare laptop drive in it as near-line storage to work on some data that could not fit internal laptop drive and was not backed up elsewhere. The stupid morons at AMS choose to use a coax power connector size spec'd for >10Vdc as the dock's power connector while the dock is only 5V. Well of course with their Venus DS3 external HDD case on my desk which uses same size connector (as do all 12V external cases and I have several), I plugged in it's 12V adapter to the dock by accident & fried my spare laptop drive and I think the dock. When contacted with the "design flaw" they put it off on me even though it should have been a much smaller plug given the low voltage or at least the dock should have shunted or regulated the overage. Now I am stuck with 2 of their devices, one dead, and a dead out-of-warranty drive for about $150 lost overall not to mention my data. Still arguing with a woman who barely speaks English trying to get my $50 dock replaced, after they change the connector size or add regulation, & some compensation for replacing the lost drive. AVOID AMS LIKE THE PLAGUE THEY ARE Tim "The Beave" Lider wrote: > Chirping means the spindle motor is damaged or the Heads had landed on the > platter and have been Affixed to the media surface. I don't think Freezing > it will work. Freezing only works if there is an issue with heat and > Thermal Recalibration. > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:22 AM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: [H] Dead hdd--freezer! > > hmm, I have a lappy drive that died mysteriously & > only chirps without spinning. > Will have to try this! > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
Re: [H] OT: Mobile Phone Tools
Eh, depending on the acquisition cost it does the job for moving pics/sounds & syncing. The heavy lifting software to tweak the phone is all free though! Upped my RAZR's firmware (cingular had no facility to do so), loaded a custom skin & ringtones, enabled engineering menu, disabled the non-remappable internet hot button (assholes), and then backed it all up for a rainy day for free. Of course the Verizon version can't do most of this which is why switched from them. Not happy with current Motorola offers, but also not excited by other brands. The RAZR^2 looks like Motorola might finally be getting serious again. Ben Ruset wrote: > My phone came with MPT and it's the biggest piece of crap out there. > > The best software I have ever seen for phones is Float's Mobile Agent, > which is freeware for Sony Ericsson phones. > > j maccraw wrote: >> There are also free P2K tools if have a usb cable want >> to do more than transfer pics & ringtones. >> >> google for p2kcommander or motox. >> >> On the other hand if you want to sync with outlook & >> backup your phone book you really need to buy MPT. >> >> FORC5 wrote: >>> FWIW I bought a USB Bluetooth adapter and access the >> phone this way for pics and ringtones. >>> fp >>> >>> At 01:56 PM 7/23/2007, Chris Shaw Poked the stick >> with: I have a Motorola Razr & would like to access the >> phone. Does anyone know where I can get the Motorola Mobile Phone Tools free or at a low cost? Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[H] Fwd: Help!
>From: "DHSinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Hardware List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Help! >Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:49:53 -0700 > >trying to connect 2 PC's via NICs and RJ45 (TP) cable. The PC's can not >see each other (not surprising with my install abilities and luck!). Do >I need a special "null" wired cable? Or, do I need a hub between the >PC's? Do not have any BNC cable to try; maybe tomorrow.. >Thank you, >Duncan H. Sinclair >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >ICQ#: 10456220 Start Here to Find It Fast! -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.
Wasn't THG originally started by Tom of Toms Hardware Guide? I've been on and off the list since about 97. JMaccraw (aka Warpmedia) was a friend and co-worker and turned me on to it. DHSinclair wrote: Mark, We all get foggy about the past. I do recall that you were one of the first contacts I made on the "old overclockers list" whatever it was called. I do recall the sysdoc.pair.com collapse too. Within months after that I believe Jim did the hardwaregroup when sysdoc decided to close down the server. 4Sure it has been a long time. I think my stick-in-the-ground is ~1996. Best, Duncan At 05:14 07/24/2007 -0400, Mark wrote: It may be, I was going on when I bought my house in Phoenix, which was 94. I thought that it was then. I was beta testing Win95 at the same time I think. I had a 486DX50 at the time. I may be thinking of a different OC list, or BB that was then tho... Mark This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] IP stuff?
On Jul 24, 2007, at 6:06 PM, DHSinclair wrote: Christopher, Thank you. I do have and have been using TCPView. Yes, you have correctly got it! Now. I have run TCPView on my server. I see nobody camped out on "127.0.0.1." I do see many internal windows components camped out on "0.0.0.0:". So I suppose my next question is: Does 127.0.0.1 equal 0.0.0.0 ? I will go check the 2d link you gave. Have already been to the 1st link. :) I so apologize for being this dense. I did use to think I had a grasp of this. Perhaps not. The new server is forcing new schooling. Thanks again. Best, Duncan Ok, so 127.0.0.1 is JUST your local computer, accesible only to you-- nobody else can get to that. 0.0.0.0 typically means ANY local address for your computer. So your computer at the same time has multiple addresses: 1) localhost -- 127.0.0.1 2) network -- 192.168.1.20 (or whatever your other IP address is) so if a program is listening on 0.0.0.0:25 (port 25), that would mean it would be listening on 127.0.0.1:25 and 192.168.1.20:25 Looking at the homer program, it tries to listen on port 80--that is the "www" / HTTP port. The port that you talk to other computers at when you request webpages. My guess would be that you're already running something that listens on port 80, ie, a web server. This would be a program that you installed or are running. Maybe Apache... Microsoft IIS. Are you running a webserver? Scott
Re: [H] IP stuff?
Christopher, Thank you. I do have and have been using TCPView. Yes, you have correctly got it! Now. I have run TCPView on my server. I see nobody camped out on "127.0.0.1." I do see many internal windows components camped out on "0.0.0.0:". So I suppose my next question is: Does 127.0.0.1 equal 0.0.0.0 ? I will go check the 2d link you gave. Have already been to the 1st link. :) I so apologize for being this dense. I did use to think I had a grasp of this. Perhaps not. The new server is forcing new schooling. Thanks again. Best, Duncan At 16:49 07/24/2007 -0400, you wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, DHSinclair wrote: Is there any way for me to query a given machine to find out "who" is camped out "listening to" 127.0.0.1? To be more specific, in any IPv4 TCP/IP stack, the whole class-A subnet 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 is your PC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost So, in this instance, you have a program running locally that is binding itself to the same port that homer wants to bind to. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Networking/TcpView.mspx The above program will help you track down what program is listening on the port you're trying to use for homer. Hope that helps! Christopher Fisk This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] IP stuff?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, DHSinclair wrote: Is there any way for me to query a given machine to find out "who" is camped out "listening to" 127.0.0.1? To be more specific, in any IPv4 TCP/IP stack, the whole class-A subnet 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 is your PC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost So, in this instance, you have a program running locally that is binding itself to the same port that homer wants to bind to. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Networking/TcpView.mspx The above program will help you track down what program is listening on the port you're trying to use for homer. Hope that helps! Christopher Fisk -- Marge: You don't have to join a freak show just because the opportunity came along. Homer: You know, Marge, in some ways you and I are very different people. Homerpalooza
RE: [H] Looking for advice on new system.
Mark, We all get foggy about the past. I do recall that you were one of the first contacts I made on the "old overclockers list" whatever it was called. I do recall the sysdoc.pair.com collapse too. Within months after that I believe Jim did the hardwaregroup when sysdoc decided to close down the server. 4Sure it has been a long time. I think my stick-in-the-ground is ~1996. Best, Duncan At 05:14 07/24/2007 -0400, Mark wrote: It may be, I was going on when I bought my house in Phoenix, which was 94. I thought that it was then. I was beta testing Win95 at the same time I think. I had a 486DX50 at the time. I may be thinking of a different OC list, or BB that was then tho... Mark This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] IP stuff?
OK. let me answer all of you collectively, sort of. I suspect I asked a shotgun question. What I have gotten back are laser beams. I am still confused. Hopefully, some of my answers will let you all know where I am. I freely admit that there is much about a server and the www that I do not yet understand. Have books, will read! Rick - Went to Karen'sTools and checked. "WhoIs" to me is an outbound looking app. I am looking internal to a single LAN client. Nothing I see there is what I am looking for, but I will go back and recheck again. j_maccraw - Thank you for the link to a newer version of tcpview. That did show me some very interesting stuff that just generates more questions, but does not show what I seek 4now. Thank you for the newer version. It is much better that the old version I had been using. Interestingly, I see nothing connected to "127.0.0.1" specifically. I do see lots of internal windows/? stuff connected to "0.0.0.0:" ports doing their thing. From what I can see, all looks very normal and placid. Yes, I do see legitimate calls/connections to all my LAN clients (10.0.0.x) from eset's remote admin console and remote admin service. I expect these and they do come and go as I expect them to. Brian Weeden - Brian I do know that the ip addy of 127.0.0.1 is both non-routable and can not be resolved across my home LAN. This is not what I was asking. I am trying to find out "who/what" is "attached to/listening" to this internal ip addy in my server that keeps a proggy I am trying to use from working. The proggy is "homer" from FunkyToad.com. Maybe this proggy is lame. :) Thane - You reply really has me scratching my head. I do not have a router in play (yet). I know that the ip addy is my internal machine loop-back address. But, whenever I try to run the "homer" proggy, it fails saying "someone else is camped out listening to this address." Well, Duh, yea, I would only hope my server (proper) is listening to its' loop-back addy (127.0.0.1). As B4, maybe this "homer" proggy is truly lame.. :) So, at this point, I may need to query FunkyToad about this and the "homer" proggy. I will admit that the instructions are sketchy at best, but I am up for a challenge. I only chose this route because this proggy is rated highly via the mvps.org site. And, I am playing with their latest "hosts" file. I am testing this "hosts" file as an added bit of protection for IE6. No, I am not ready to dump IE and goto FireFox! FireFox will not allow me to do my banking biz. And, I am not ready for multiple browsers. Besides, this may be a future topic for me as I read about the good/bad from other List Members using FireFox! Best, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
RE: [H] Dead hdd--freezer!
Chirping means the spindle motor is damaged or the Heads had landed on the platter and have been Affixed to the media surface. I don't think Freezing it will work. Freezing only works if there is an issue with heat and Thermal Recalibration. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:22 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Dead hdd--freezer! hmm, I have a lappy drive that died mysteriously & only chirps without spinning. Will have to try this!
Re: [H] OT: Mobile Phone Tools
My phone came with MPT and it's the biggest piece of crap out there. The best software I have ever seen for phones is Float's Mobile Agent, which is freeware for Sony Ericsson phones. j maccraw wrote: There are also free P2K tools if have a usb cable want to do more than transfer pics & ringtones. google for p2kcommander or motox. On the other hand if you want to sync with outlook & backup your phone book you really need to buy MPT. FORC5 wrote: FWIW I bought a USB Bluetooth adapter and access the phone this way for pics and ringtones. fp At 01:56 PM 7/23/2007, Chris Shaw Poked the stick with: I have a Motorola Razr & would like to access the phone. Does anyone know where I can get the Motorola Mobile Phone Tools free or at a low cost? Thanks! -- C L Shaw <>< <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today is a moment for you to clip yet another strand from the rope of earth, so that when he returns you won't be tied up. Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
RE: [H] Dead hdd--freezer!
I have done this with a desk top hdd, Someone on the list here told me about it. I coudn;t read the drive and there was data I had to have. I put the drive in the freezer for about 4 hours. Popped it in the computer and could read the drive for about 10 minutes. When it stopped reading put back in the freezer for 4 more hours and repeat.Got all my critical information though it took several days.Give it a try, all it can do is not work. :)Harveyhbest> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:22:10 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [H] Dead hdd--freezer!> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > hmm, I have a lappy drive that died mysteriously &> only chirps without spinning. > Will have to try this!> > > Scott Sipe wrote:> > So I posted awhile ago that I had had a new Seagate> drive die (not > > recognized by computer, made a weird "chirping"> noise). I finally got > > around to trying something I had always wanted to> try--putting it in the > > freezer.> > > > So I put two layers of ziploc bag around the diskd> and plopped it into > > the freezer for about 9-10 hours.> > > > I then took it out of the bags and hooked it up> immediately to my > > computer. I propped it up slightly and put a high> powered room fan on > > it, to hopefully get rid of condensation.> > > > Then turned on the computer--at first it chirped a> couple times and was > > NOT recognized by the BIOS as windows booted. Then> the chirping stop, > > and I rebooted to find that it was recognized in the> BIOS, windows saw > > the partition, and I'm currently copying some data> off--cool!> > > > Not Tim Lider, but the next best thing maybe :)> > > > Scott> > > > > > >> > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting _ See what you’re getting into…before you go there. http://newlivehotmail.com
RE: [H] Looking for advice on new system.
It may be, I was going on when I bought my house in Phoenix, which was 94. I thought that it was then. I was beta testing Win95 at the same time I think. I had a 486DX50 at the time. I may be thinking of a different OC list, or BB that was then tho... Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:54 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Looking for advice on new system. Uh...isn't tomshardware only 11 years old? sysdoc.pair.com came about in 1996 if I recall... >From: "Mark Dodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List > >To: "'The Hardware List'" >Subject: RE: [H] Looking for advice on new system. >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:29:06 -0500 > >I believe about 13 or 14 years for me. > >Mark > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk >Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:10 PM >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system. > >On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, FORC5 wrote: > > > since Tom's OC forum here > > long time > >Only ~9 years here, I'm a youngin'. > > >Christopher Fisk > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 7/16/2007 >5:42 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 >3:52 PM > > _ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 3:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM
Re: [H] IP stuff?
Opps. I should not have given my answer as a question... That address is internal to your own computer, so it is trying to talk to itself... I can't explain it too well, that is why I quoted Karen (of Karenware)... Who-Is is a couple things, depending on how the term is used. When I "do" a who-is, I am looking up the owner of an IP address (or Domain). Karen's Who-Is is a program that pretty much automates that process... It is free... http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptwhois.asp I also use her Hasher program, for making MD5s and such... Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: "DHSinclair" Rick, at the risk of being really stupid. I just do not know how to answer your question. I think "yourself" is proper, but just do not know. Sorry, I am not fast enough. Is "who is" my tool? Best, Duncan At 16:40 07/23/2007 -0400, you wrote: Yourself?
Re: [H] IP stuff?
TCPView - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Networking/TcpView.mspx Though no one other than local processes can access the loopback IP. > From: "DHSinclair" >> Is there any way for me to query a given machine to find out >> "who" is camped out "listening to" 127.0.0.1? >> >> I am playing with "homer." >> (http://www.funkytoad.com/content/view/14/32/) >> It will not start because somebody else beats homer to 127.0.0.1 for >> "listening." >> >> Yes, this is another progy advised from "mvps.org" that gives out the >> "hosts" files. I am playing ATM. > > > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: [H] Dead hdd--freezer!
hmm, I have a lappy drive that died mysteriously & only chirps without spinning. Will have to try this! Scott Sipe wrote: > So I posted awhile ago that I had had a new Seagate drive die (not > recognized by computer, made a weird "chirping" noise). I finally got > around to trying something I had always wanted to try--putting it in the > freezer. > > So I put two layers of ziploc bag around the diskd and plopped it into > the freezer for about 9-10 hours. > > I then took it out of the bags and hooked it up immediately to my > computer. I propped it up slightly and put a high powered room fan on > it, to hopefully get rid of condensation. > > Then turned on the computer--at first it chirped a couple times and was > NOT recognized by the BIOS as windows booted. Then the chirping stop, > and I rebooted to find that it was recognized in the BIOS, windows saw > the partition, and I'm currently copying some data off--cool! > > Not Tim Lider, but the next best thing maybe :) > > Scott > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: [H] OT: Mobile Phone Tools
There are also free P2K tools if have a usb cable want to do more than transfer pics & ringtones. google for p2kcommander or motox. On the other hand if you want to sync with outlook & backup your phone book you really need to buy MPT. FORC5 wrote: > FWIW I bought a USB Bluetooth adapter and access the phone this way for pics and ringtones. > > fp > > At 01:56 PM 7/23/2007, Chris Shaw Poked the stick with: >> I have a Motorola Razr & would like to access the phone. Does anyone know where I can get the Motorola >> Mobile Phone Tools free or at a low cost? >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> C L Shaw <>< >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Today is a moment for you to clip yet another strand from >> the rope of earth, so that when he returns you won't be tied up. > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
