Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/05/28/intel-to-discontinue-co re-i7-920-940-cpus/1 Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of James Maki Sent: 01 June 2009 18:44 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Core i7 new computer -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com With the recent announcement on i7 and i5, I wouldn't even consider an i7 anymore. Not good news either for those of us who jumped on the i7 bandwagon early :( I'm a bit confused by this comment. My understanding is that the i5 is inferior to the i7 and aimed at budget computing. Am I missing something? Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] ATI 4650
What I was saying originally was that the 600GT is faster than a 4650 in Doom3 so I am going to get a 4770 for my system. I was asking which of the 6600 or the 4650 I should go with in my wife's system to play SIMS 3??? -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 02:51 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI 4650 An outdated 6600GT couldn't even best a X850 much less anything newer. Is that a mis-type? Meanwhile the 4770 looks to bench about the speed of the old 3870X2. 4870X2 par with GTX295 3870X2 par with GTX280 mark.dodge wrote: I guess another question I have not been able to answer looking around the net... Will the 6600GT or the 4650 be better for SIMS 3 My wife's computer's vid is PCI E so I'm wondering about the horses needed to play Sims 3. If I get a 4770 for mine which should I put in hers -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of John R Steinbruner Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:58 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] ATI 4650 From what I have seen and read, the 4770 is the Cat's Meow in low cost video cards for now. That new 40 micron process is really really really good. :) On May 27, 2009, at 9:47 PM, mark.dodge wrote: Well I was bummed to find that a 4650 w/ 1GB will not beat a 6600GT with 512 in Doom3. I thought that I would get quite a bit of performance, 77 FPS versus 71 FPS @1024X768 High Quality I guess I'm now looking for something a bit better for around 100 bucks or so. Will a 4770 be a lot better?? Mark MD Computers, Houston, TX
[H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive.
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
At 07:49 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. This is what I buy these days, supporting AMD: https://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
always hesitate to recommend but have built a couple of these with zero grief. One is in my server which I did stick in a extra pci-e video card I had in the pile. Asus p5kpl-cm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131288 fp At 05:49 AM 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar Poked the stick with: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Outside noisy, inside empty.
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
WD Your URL for mwave fails to load. Sam W. D. wrote: At 07:49 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. This is what I buy these days, supporting AMD: https://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
At 11:20 6/2/2009, Sam Franc wrote: WD Your URL for mwave fails to load. Sam Https. Here it is via http: http://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 W. D. wrote: At 07:49 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. This is what I buy these days, supporting AMD: https://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] mATX Motherboard recommendation
This seem to be the GIGABYTE GA-M61PME-S2P nvidia geforce 6100 chipset micro ATX form factor Is that the one you like? I have the GA-M61P-S3 and it seems to be fine. I wonder what the main difference is? Sam W. D. wrote: At 11:20 6/2/2009, Sam Franc wrote: WD Your URL for mwave fails to load. Sam Https. Here it is via http: http://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 W. D. wrote: At 07:49 6/2/2009, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Can anyone provide advice for what would be a good and decent mATX motherboard to perhaps use a Q6600 with? I am looking for something with VGA built in, and don't care about 3D acceleration at all. I would prefer if the components would be supported out of the box by Linux and/or Windows 7. GbE would also be a requirement. Other than that price is also a consideration. I don't want something too expensive. This is what I buy these days, supporting AMD: https://mwave.com/mwave/review.hmx?scriteria=BA31362 Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00 Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00
[H] Vista64 questions work arounds
XP PRO TweakUi allowed one to edit the context menu = NEW Is there a way to do this in Vista? I have found the settings in the registry, and I can selectively remove them but they reappear after a reboot. One of the issues with Vista Home Premium is that Vista will not remember network passwords between reboots. The check box is there but it doesn't work, only Ultimate supports this. Do any of you Network Gurus know of a work around? Thanks
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
Hmm.. Looks like the Core i5 is the one for me. Thanx for the link. :) On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:24 AM, jason.to...@cliffordchance.com jason.to...@cliffordchance.com wrote: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/05/28/intel-to-discontinue-co re-i7-920-940-cpus/1 Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Core i7 new computer
If we are talking price concerns and future upgrades, I can see your point on waiting and concentrating on the upcoming i5 cpu. The fallacy in this philosophy FOR ME is I rarely upgrade within a socket type. The one time I did upgrade, I now feel I spent too much to upgrade a socket 939 (at its end of life) single core AMD64 3700 to an Opteron 185. It gave the system new life, but cost $235 for an obsolete chip. I usually build a system and use it for several years and then build a new system from scratch (at least, mb, cpu, and ram) as much from want as necessity as the technogies change. So I may spend a little more now for an X58 mb, i7 920, and DDR3, but the investment will cover me for the next couple of years till the new next best thing. Only potential pitfall is if the cpu fails (and I have not ever had a cpu fail) and having to spend an arm and leg to replace. In the meantime, I have a (for the time being) state of the art system. The happiness factor has to be worth SOMETHING! Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com Basically, i7 is going to be re-branded as the high end and as such boards and cpu prices will remain very high. Going the i5 route will give a considerably cheaper future upgrade path. -Original Message- From: James Maki -Original Message- From: jason.to...@cliffordchance.com With the recent announcement on i7 and i5, I wouldn't even consider an i7 anymore. Not good news either for those of us who jumped on the i7 bandwagon early :( I'm a bit confused by this comment. My understanding is that the i5 is inferior to the i7 and aimed at budget computing. Am I missing something? Jim Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.net
Re: [H] x48 v p45 ?
Well I get 2 monitors active with CrossfireX enabled, this under XP. Even when I am gaming screen#2 still shows it's 2D desktop mode. Certainly seems for 3 or 4 monitors that crossfireX has to be off, at least with my 4 headed single card vs. two non-X2 cards. Winterlight wrote: At 04:13 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: Don't understand the question. Currently I have 2 monitors running, each can be a different resolution, each can be a clone OR part of the extended desktop. For that matter one can be full screen playback on the fly. Are you saying that in non-crossfire mode with 3+ monitors there's an issue? no I am saying if you run multiple monitors, I am running a Gateway 3000 on one Asus EAH4970 and two DELL 2407s on another EAH4970, each at it's native resolution. If I enable Crossfire I loose the DELLs 2D or 3D. I only see the 30 inch monitor. Asus says this is how crossfire works. So when you wrote that you were able to use multiple monitors with crossfire enabled I assumed you were spanning the monitors across one resolution which can be done with some drivers. When I enable Crossfire in Vista 64, say to play a game, the desktop gets messed up when I restore normal mode. So I boot into XP64 with crossfire enabled if I want to play a gameand I only see the 30 inch monitor. That may be different, it was my understanding that my card has 4 heads to do 4 monitors though I think to do so CrossfireX has to be disabled 1st. Currently I can't get CFX to disable don't have time tonight to fiddle with it as I am flying out in the morning. Winterlight wrote: At 01:20 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: I run a 3870x2 and no matter crossfire or not I have 4 DVI heads that work in 2D mode. but in one big spread across the monitors view ? Not with separate resolutions on each monitor.
