Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
At 06:02 PM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: Thane, Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried about space and about security, you can control both by putting your own cheap server with disk space in play. Yeah, that's a good idea. But I'm using POP on a single laptop - the whole IMAP thing is for a client. T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
er... $10/year not per month. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > Thane, > > Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an > old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried > about space and about security, you can control both by putting your own > cheap server with disk space in play. > > Frankly, if you setup a linux machine with a postfix and IMAP server, you > can consolidate all of your email accounts into as many accounts as you > wish on the linux machine. Use fetchmail to get all your POP3 mail > accounts drawn into your linux mail server where you have complete control > over it. Throw a webmail interface on it, serve it up as an IMAP server > for your machines when you are remote and control backups on the server > side. Doesn't even really require anything more than what you have > currently, a free DYNDNS account and some electricity each month. > > You can setup encryption with IMAPS so you don't have to worry about > security. I didn't even consider giving this option previously because I > felt it was obvious (to me... I've been in the ISP business for 15+ years > now) but it might be something you haven't thought about. > > Hell, you can go so far as to get yourself a domain for $10/month, route > all email direct to your server through MX and cut off all providers. It's > not that hard and doesn't take much to manage once it is setup. > > > Christopher Fisk > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Thane Sherrington < > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > >> At 10:18 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: >> >>> I don't necessarily trust them more than anyone else with information of >>> importance to me. For important stuff, I have saved it locally and in >>> several places. >>> >> >> I really don't trust Google with important email. They are processing >> every word, which makes me nervous. It's fine for basic stuff, but I'd >> rather a bit more privacy. >> >> T >> >> >
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
Thane, Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried about space and about security, you can control both by putting your own cheap server with disk space in play. Frankly, if you setup a linux machine with a postfix and IMAP server, you can consolidate all of your email accounts into as many accounts as you wish on the linux machine. Use fetchmail to get all your POP3 mail accounts drawn into your linux mail server where you have complete control over it. Throw a webmail interface on it, serve it up as an IMAP server for your machines when you are remote and control backups on the server side. Doesn't even really require anything more than what you have currently, a free DYNDNS account and some electricity each month. You can setup encryption with IMAPS so you don't have to worry about security. I didn't even consider giving this option previously because I felt it was obvious (to me... I've been in the ISP business for 15+ years now) but it might be something you haven't thought about. Hell, you can go so far as to get yourself a domain for $10/month, route all email direct to your server through MX and cut off all providers. It's not that hard and doesn't take much to manage once it is setup. Christopher Fisk On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Thane Sherrington < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > At 10:18 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: > >> I don't necessarily trust them more than anyone else with information of >> importance to me. For important stuff, I have saved it locally and in >> several places. >> > > I really don't trust Google with important email. They are processing > every word, which makes me nervous. It's fine for basic stuff, but I'd > rather a bit more privacy. > > T > >
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gmail supports IMAP and POP3 access types. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM, DSinc wrote: > Excuse me. But I thought that 'gmail' = Google. > > Did I miss something here? > Yes, I am still thinking about changing from POP to IMAP. > Duncan > > > On 02/18/2013 09:37, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >> At 10:14 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: >> >>> If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? >>> >> >> How do I backup mail that's stored on Google? >> >> T >> >> >> >
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Excuse me. But I thought that 'gmail' = Google. Did I miss something here? Yes, I am still thinking about changing from POP to IMAP. Duncan On 02/18/2013 09:37, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 10:14 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? How do I backup mail that's stored on Google? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
At 10:18 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: I don't necessarily trust them more than anyone else with information of importance to me. For important stuff, I have saved it locally and in several places. I really don't trust Google with important email. They are processing every word, which makes me nervous. It's fine for basic stuff, but I'd rather a bit more privacy. T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
At 10:15 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: Sorry to reply to my own post, but even gmail has the method to backup your mail to pop3 on their FAQ: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34030 So I can do POP and IMAP simultaneously with GMail? That might work. T
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At 10:14 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? How do I backup mail that's stored on Google? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
I don't necessarily trust them more than anyone else with information of importance to me. For important stuff, I have saved it locally and in several places. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: >Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored email. Provided you trust GMail to store and protect your mail for you, sure. But if you're like me and have mail backed up in several locations, then perhaps not. T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
Sorry to reply to my own post, but even gmail has the method to backup your mail to pop3 on their FAQ: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34030 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Thane Sherrington < > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > >> At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: >> >>> Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored >>> email. >>> >> >> Provided you trust GMail to store and protect your mail for you, sure. >> But if you're like me and have mail backed up in several locations, then >> perhaps not. >> >> T >> >> >
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Thane Sherrington < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: > >> Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored >> email. >> > > Provided you trust GMail to store and protect your mail for you, sure. > But if you're like me and have mail backed up in several locations, then > perhaps not. > > T > >
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At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored email. Provided you trust GMail to store and protect your mail for you, sure. But if you're like me and have mail backed up in several locations, then perhaps not. T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored email. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:41 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 12:29 PM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete >a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". > >I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines with synced emails, but it doesn't work if you want to keep more than a few emails (or have an ISP who is willing to give you a ton of storage and you trust that storage. T
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Isn't exercising great care when deleting material important no matter what the platform or content? Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:29 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. On 2/16/2013 10:46 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: > At 09:31 AM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >> What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to >> another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the >> server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails >> on my main home and work PCs. > > That is the sort of thing I was worried about. I could probably > handle that myself, but I can't expect clients to do it. > > T > >
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
Synching across multiple machines. Local and server storage. Ultimately, convenience. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:49 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad I set up a simple filter to copy everything coming into my imap account to a saved folder. Easy to do, but why have to do this? With pop, you don't. What is the advantage of iMap again? On 2/16/2013 10:39 AM, Vincent Winterling wrote: > I run my mail through Gmail. I setup the filters in Gmail and from > Gmail direct mail in Outlook. I have an identical set of folders in > Outlook to which incoming mail is sorted. It works perfectly. > > I use Acronis, scheduled daily, to backup my mail folders in Outlook > (*.pst, *.ost). > > In Outlook 2013 IMAP is vastly improved and the file now ends in *.ost > if you're running Gmail. > > Those things I want to more or less "permanently" save I save to the > local *.pst file in Outlook. > > Vincent Winterling > Vineland, NJ > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:31 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > > What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to > another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the > server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails > on my main home and work PCs.
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The alternative would be to go with gmail. You're not dealing as much with your ISP. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:19 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad Christopher, Best answer I've ever read. Thank you. I do not do 'phone/ipad' email, but I get it. Think I will stay POP3 for now; well untilI can not. IMAP reads to me as another layer (ISP) to deal with. Thank you. Duncan
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
I switched all my pop3 accounts into a Google Apps account (I am grandfathered in with 50 email addresses available on my domain) On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > That's why I'm so happy with GoDaddy hosting my email. Unlimited. > Now I don't have to back up myself, unless I choose to. > Sync'd email is very important to me. > > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... > > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > > From: Thane Sherrington > > Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 11:41 am > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > > > I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines > > with synced emails, but it doesn't work if you want to keep more than > > a few emails (or have an ISP who is willing to give you a ton of > > storage and you trust that storage. > > > > T >
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That's why I'm so happy with GoDaddy hosting my email. Unlimited. Now I don't have to back up myself, unless I choose to. Sync'd email is very important to me. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 11:41 am > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines > with synced emails, but it doesn't work if you want to keep more than > a few emails (or have an ISP who is willing to give you a ton of > storage and you trust that storage. > > T
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Good point - agreed, BUT still better than POP, IMO. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: "Anthony Q. Martin" > Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:31 am > To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" > > > > What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another > local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are > gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work > PCs.
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
When using pop, I set my home machine to never delete work emails from the server and my work machine to never delete home emails from the server. Then, I set my work machine to delete all work emails from the server after one week. Then I set my home machine to delete all home emails from the server in a similar time. So, I get synced emails at both locations. I guess why imap does it lets you see the same set of emails at any location so you always know what as been sent from your account. With pop as I use it above, you don't get thatso sent mail has to be cc'ed to ensure you know what you sent to someone from any location. On Feb 16, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: > At 12:29 PM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >> What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a >> bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". >> >> I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. > > I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines with synced > emails, but it doesn't work if you want to keep more than a few emails (or > have an ISP who is willing to give you a ton of storage and you trust that > storage. > > T >
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At 12:29 PM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines with synced emails, but it doesn't work if you want to keep more than a few emails (or have an ISP who is willing to give you a ton of storage and you trust that storage. T
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What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. On 2/16/2013 10:46 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:31 AM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs. That is the sort of thing I was worried about. I could probably handle that myself, but I can't expect clients to do it. T
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I set up a simple filter to copy everything coming into my imap account to a saved folder. Easy to do, but why have to do this? With pop, you don't. What is the advantage of iMap again? On 2/16/2013 10:39 AM, Vincent Winterling wrote: I run my mail through Gmail. I setup the filters in Gmail and from Gmail direct mail in Outlook. I have an identical set of folders in Outlook to which incoming mail is sorted. It works perfectly. I use Acronis, scheduled daily, to backup my mail folders in Outlook (*.pst, *.ost). In Outlook 2013 IMAP is vastly improved and the file now ends in *.ost if you're running Gmail. Those things I want to more or less "permanently" save I save to the local *.pst file in Outlook. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:31 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs.
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At 09:31 AM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs. That is the sort of thing I was worried about. I could probably handle that myself, but I can't expect clients to do it. T
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At 10:29 PM 15/02/2013, joeu...@chronic.org wrote: IMAP shouldn't be that big of a deal and your ISP should support it, if not... that's pretty sad. IMAP is nice, for many reasons, but it's great to have your email accessible from your PC, someone else's PC, your laptop, your smartphone, etc. It's the wave of the future - wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the The problem is the most ISPs only give about 10MB of mail storage, which makes this useless for people who want to have archives. T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
I run my mail through Gmail. I setup the filters in Gmail and from Gmail direct mail in Outlook. I have an identical set of folders in Outlook to which incoming mail is sorted. It works perfectly. I use Acronis, scheduled daily, to backup my mail folders in Outlook (*.pst, *.ost). In Outlook 2013 IMAP is vastly improved and the file now ends in *.ost if you're running Gmail. Those things I want to more or less "permanently" save I save to the local *.pst file in Outlook. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:31 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs.
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs. On Feb 16, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Vincent Winterling" wrote: > The advantage of IMAP is that they can be stored locally and on the server. > > Vincent Winterling > Vineland, NJ > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane > Sherrington > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:31 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > > At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to >> reside somewhere. > > But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are > downloaded to one's computer? > > T > > >
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The advantage of IMAP is that they can be stored locally and on the server. Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:31 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: >Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to >reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are downloaded to one's computer? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
IMAP shouldn't be that big of a deal and your ISP should support it, if not... that's pretty sad. IMAP is nice, for many reasons, but it's great to have your email accessible from your PC, someone else's PC, your laptop, your smartphone, etc. It's the wave of the future - wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future, wave of the future... 8P Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > -------- Original Message > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: DSinc > Date: Fri, February 15, 2013 6:18 pm > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > Christopher, > Best answer I've ever read. Thank you. > I do not do 'phone/ipad' email, but I get it. > Think I will stay POP3 for now; well untilI can not. > IMAP reads to me as another layer (ISP) to deal with. > Thank you. > Duncan > > > On 02/15/2013 18:51, Christopher Fisk wrote: > > If you use the IMAP protocol, the email is stored on your ISP's mail > > server. If you use POP then you download then delete. IMAP can cache > > stuff locally, but overall all the messages are stored and synced with the > > server. This allows you to delete messages from IMAP from your ipad and > > have them disappear from your home workstation as well. But you need to > > make sure you have enough quota for it. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > >> Christopher, > >> Can you please expand on your 'Correct'? > >> OK, I do not trust anInternet Email provider. > >> OK, I do not trust my local ISP. > >> I do POP3 emailto my local Thunderbird (on this machine). > >> When I delete my old emaillocally, I assumemy email is GONE! > >> Am I being stupid now, and just do not understand email business? > >> Duncan > >> > >> > >> > >> On 02/15/2013 16:33, Christopher Fisk wrote: > >> > >>> Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed > >>> might be an issue > >>> On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < > >>> thane@computerconnectionltd.**com > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > >>>>Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to > >>>> reside > >>>> > >>>>> somewhere. > >>>>> > >>>>> But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they > >>>> are > >>>> downloaded to one's computer? > >>>> > >>>> T > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
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POP can be set to leave messages on the server. Think of IMAP like a web based service. Hotmail, for example. You can be on any PC, anywhere and your hotmail is the same. Any changes you make, delete, move, whatever - is how it is wherever you are. IMAP can be a tad slower in my experience. Depends on many factors. I will never go back to POP. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date: Fri, February 15, 2013 3:30 pm > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > > >Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside > >somewhere. > > But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where > they are downloaded to one's computer? > > T
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My daughter has the iPhone and I use a hosted email through GoDaddy. IMAP works fine. Your message limit is dependent on your provider, Godaddy is unlimited (for me anyway). Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message ---- > Subject: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date: Fri, February 15, 2013 11:43 am > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > > If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP > rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the > mail will take up space on my provider and ultimately fill the mailbox there? > > T
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Christopher, Best answer I've ever read. Thank you. I do not do 'phone/ipad' email, but I get it. Think I will stay POP3 for now; well untilI can not. IMAP reads to me as another layer (ISP) to deal with. Thank you. Duncan On 02/15/2013 18:51, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you use the IMAP protocol, the email is stored on your ISP's mail server. If you use POP then you download then delete. IMAP can cache stuff locally, but overall all the messages are stored and synced with the server. This allows you to delete messages from IMAP from your ipad and have them disappear from your home workstation as well. But you need to make sure you have enough quota for it. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM, DSinc wrote: Christopher, Can you please expand on your 'Correct'? OK, I do not trust anInternet Email provider. OK, I do not trust my local ISP. I do POP3 emailto my local Thunderbird (on this machine). When I delete my old emaillocally, I assumemy email is GONE! Am I being stupid now, and just do not understand email business? Duncan On 02/15/2013 16:33, Christopher Fisk wrote: Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed might be an issue On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < thane@computerconnectionltd.**com > wrote: At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are downloaded to one's computer? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
If you use the IMAP protocol, the email is stored on your ISP's mail server. If you use POP then you download then delete. IMAP can cache stuff locally, but overall all the messages are stored and synced with the server. This allows you to delete messages from IMAP from your ipad and have them disappear from your home workstation as well. But you need to make sure you have enough quota for it. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM, DSinc wrote: > Christopher, > Can you please expand on your 'Correct'? > OK, I do not trust anInternet Email provider. > OK, I do not trust my local ISP. > I do POP3 emailto my local Thunderbird (on this machine). > When I delete my old emaillocally, I assumemy email is GONE! > Am I being stupid now, and just do not understand email business? > Duncan > > > > On 02/15/2013 16:33, Christopher Fisk wrote: > >> Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed >> might be an issue >> On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < >> thane@computerconnectionltd.**com > >> wrote: >> >> At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: >>> >>> Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to >>> reside >>> somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they >>> are >>> downloaded to one's computer? >>> >>> T >>> >>> >>> >
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Christopher, Can you please expand on your 'Correct'? OK, I do not trust anInternet Email provider. OK, I do not trust my local ISP. I do POP3 emailto my local Thunderbird (on this machine). When I delete my old emaillocally, I assumemy email is GONE! Am I being stupid now, and just do not understand email business? Duncan On 02/15/2013 16:33, Christopher Fisk wrote: Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed might be an issue On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are downloaded to one's computer? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed might be an issue On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > > Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside >> somewhere. >> > > But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are > downloaded to one's computer? > > T > >
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At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are downloaded to one's computer? T
Re: [H] IMAP and iPad
If you're using one of the more popular email services (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) or an Exchange account, the iPad setup pretty much takes care of that: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4810 Otherwise, you can follow this guide to manually setup either a POP or IMAP account: https://support.exabytes.com/KB/a2819/how-to-setup-pop3-email-account-in-ipad.aspx Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside somewhere. - Brian On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:00 PM, DSinc wrote: > Thank you Thane! I've been wondering this also.. :) > Duncan > > > On 02/15/2013 12:43, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >> If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP >> rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the mail will >> take up space on my provider and ultimately fill the mailbox there? >> >> T >> >> >> >> >> >
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Thank you Thane! I've been wondering this also.. :) Duncan On 02/15/2013 12:43, Thane Sherrington wrote: If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the mail will take up space on my provider and ultimately fill the mailbox there? T
[H] IMAP and iPad
If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the mail will take up space on my provider and ultimately fill the mailbox there? T
