Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-15 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Good OC on the Phenom.  I have one in my office machine that I hope to 
overclock too. I read something about the cores being locked???


I guess the extra juice your box uses is due to the four cores...are 
games using four cores now?


On 1/15/2010 12:03 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
A Gigabyte 785 chipset mobo with a Phenom II X2 545 OC'd to 3.750 GHz 
@ 1.4v. A 500 GB hardrive and DVD burner all housed in a Cooler Master 
CM690 with 4 120mm fans. My dedicated gaming box. :-)



On 1/14/2010 5:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
What have you got in that beast?  I have a dual core E6850 system 
here that uses 60 W at idle and 120 W loaded.  Of course, it has a 
super wimpy vidcard it in at the moment.


On 1/14/2010 3:07 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle 
power went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop 
and a lot faster to boot.



On 1/13/2010 9:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which 
gets

7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce 
GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card 
gives

me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't 
compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 
5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay 
with

what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the

HD
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see 
buying

a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs 
much

cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for 
$80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 
5850

but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?









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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-15 Thread Stan Zaske
I bought mine on Ebay and I suspect dude was selling because he couldn't 
unlock the other 2 cores but I'm satisfied at the dual core performance 
and the price I paid. The latest games are indeed using more than 2 
cores but my gaming experience is smooth as butter and I have the eye 
candy maxed out at 1920x1200 resolution. I need to reinstall Crysis and 
Warhead but suspect they will be set on medium as usual.




On 1/15/2010 4:19 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Good OC on the Phenom.  I have one in my office machine that I hope to 
overclock too. I read something about the cores being locked???


I guess the extra juice your box uses is due to the four cores...are 
games using four cores now?


On 1/15/2010 12:03 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
A Gigabyte 785 chipset mobo with a Phenom II X2 545 OC'd to 3.750 GHz 
@ 1.4v. A 500 GB hardrive and DVD burner all housed in a Cooler 
Master CM690 with 4 120mm fans. My dedicated gaming box. :-)



On 1/14/2010 5:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
What have you got in that beast?  I have a dual core E6850 system 
here that uses 60 W at idle and 120 W loaded.  Of course, it has a 
super wimpy vidcard it in at the moment.


On 1/14/2010 3:07 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle 
power went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop 
and a lot faster to boot.



On 1/13/2010 9:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, 
which gets

7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce 
GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card 
gives

me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the 
boot

drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't 
compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to 
the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well 
stay with

what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the

HD
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see 
buying

a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a 
VisionTech

HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs 
much

cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card 
for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 
5850

but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?









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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-15 Thread Bobby Heid
Stan,

I do some gaming.  Mostly single player Call of Duty and games like that.  I
do run fold...@home and s...@home.  I was using the GPU for Seti, but it put
out way too much heat.  Basically, when I was building the system, I was
trying to get the most I could that I wanted to pay for.  That way, I don't
have to spend more and upgrade the GPU in a couple of years.

My memory gives me a 7.8 with 6GB of Corsair Dominators.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:01 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I'm curious Bobby, since you don't game what do you need a GTX 285 for. 
Are you fold...@home or doing some Cuda stuff? My hard drive score is 
4.8 and memory is 7.4 by the way.


On 1/13/2010 8:44 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:
 I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
 graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives me
 7.4 for both graphics scored.

 My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
 and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

 Bobby




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-15 Thread Stan Zaske
Sorry Bobby, got you and Anthony mixed up. Good point about getting the 
best to avoid upgrades for several years. That's the reason I was aiming 
for a 5850 but when it came down to it, just can't justify spending that 
much for one component. And really the 5770 that I got is so much better 
than the 4850 it replaced.



On 1/15/2010 10:30 AM, Bobby Heid wrote:

Stan,

I do some gaming.  Mostly single player Call of Duty and games like that.  I
do run fold...@home and s...@home.  I was using the GPU for Seti, but it put
out way too much heat.  Basically, when I was building the system, I was
trying to get the most I could that I wanted to pay for.  That way, I don't
have to spend more and upgrade the GPU in a couple of years.

My memory gives me a 7.8 with 6GB of Corsair Dominators.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:01 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I'm curious Bobby, since you don't game what do you need a GTX 285 for.
Are you fold...@home or doing some Cuda stuff? My hard drive score is
4.8 and memory is 7.4 by the way.


On 1/13/2010 8:44 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:
   

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
 

drive
   

and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby
 



   




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Greg Sevart
Yes. When I was weighing getting one 160GB G2 vs two 80GBs and stripe them,
I opted for the later since the price was nearly the same. I don't really
think it gets me that much better real world performance, but it does help
on sequential writes, which is one area the Intel SSDs are a bit weak. There
is an increased chance of data loss, but I back up my machine nightly, so I
don't worry too much about that either.

The greatest thing, however, is that in a couple years when it's time to
move on to a newer, faster, bigger SSD, I can upgrade two other systems
instead of just one. That was the biggest reason behind it.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:30 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey
 
 WowI get 7.4 with one Intel G2 SSD. Are yours striped?
 
 On 1/13/2010 10:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
  My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which
 gets
  7.4.
 
  My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)
 
 




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Eli Allen
One major disadvantage, you can't use TRIM on the drives and I'm
guessing the raid will increase latency a bit.

Eli

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:
 Yes. When I was weighing getting one 160GB G2 vs two 80GBs and stripe them,
 I opted for the later since the price was nearly the same. I don't really
 think it gets me that much better real world performance, but it does help
 on sequential writes, which is one area the Intel SSDs are a bit weak. There
 is an increased chance of data loss, but I back up my machine nightly, so I
 don't worry too much about that either.

 The greatest thing, however, is that in a couple years when it's time to
 move on to a newer, faster, bigger SSD, I can upgrade two other systems
 instead of just one. That was the biggest reason behind it.

 Greg



Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm curious Bobby, since you don't game what do you need a GTX 285 for. 
Are you fold...@home or doing some Cuda stuff? My hard drive score is 
4.8 and memory is 7.4 by the way.



On 1/13/2010 8:44 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
   

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
 

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?
   




   




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I think I'm going to install a gameso I can say I'm not going for 
bragging rights trying to get my WEI graphic scores above 7. :)


On 1/14/2010 3:00 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm curious Bobby, since you don't game what do you need a GTX 285 
for. Are you fold...@home or doing some Cuda stuff? My hard drive 
score is 4.8 and memory is 7.4 by the way.



On 1/13/2010 8:44 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card 
gives me

7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot 
drive

and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?







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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle power 
went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop and a lot 
faster to boot.



On 1/13/2010 9:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which gets
7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)

   

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives
me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
 

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the
   

HD
 

4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
   

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?
 


 




   




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Stan Zaske
Whoops my bad I forgot it was you Anthony that didn't game. If I might 
make a suggestion, why not try out a first person online shooter called 
Left4Dead II. It's a lot of fun playing with people especially with a 
mic so you can talk with each other.



On 1/14/2010 2:15 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I think I'm going to install a gameso I can say I'm not going for 
bragging rights trying to get my WEI graphic scores above 7. :)


On 1/14/2010 3:00 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm curious Bobby, since you don't game what do you need a GTX 285 
for. Are you fold...@home or doing some Cuda stuff? My hard drive 
score is 4.8 and memory is 7.4 by the way.



On 1/13/2010 8:44 PM, Bobby Heid wrote:

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card 
gives me

7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the 
boot drive

and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?







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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Joe User
Hello Stan,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:29:22 PM, you wrote:

 If I might
 make a suggestion, why not try out a first person online shooter called
 Left4Dead II. It's a lot of fun playing with people especially with a 
 mic so you can talk with each other.

Seconded.

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...



Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Joe User
Hello Stan,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:07:22 PM, you wrote:

 I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle power
 went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop and a lot
 faster to boot.

Well done.

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...



Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Joe User
Hello Anthony,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:15:22 PM, you wrote:

 I think I'm going to install a gameso I can say I'm not going for 
 bragging rights trying to get my WEI graphic scores above 7. :)


Ok seriously... what's up with WEI. I see all this talk about it, it
cannot be that good of a benchmark.


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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

It's called obsession, my friend!

On 1/14/2010 5:42 PM, Joe User wrote:

Hello Anthony,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:15:22 PM, you wrote:

   

I think I'm going to install a gameso I can say I'm not going for
bragging rights trying to get my WEI graphic scores above 7. :)
 


Ok seriously... what's up with WEI. I see all this talk about it, it
cannot be that good of a benchmark.


   




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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
What have you got in that beast?  I have a dual core E6850 system here 
that uses 60 W at idle and 120 W loaded.  Of course, it has a super 
wimpy vidcard it in at the moment.


On 1/14/2010 3:07 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle power 
went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop and a lot 
faster to boot.



On 1/13/2010 9:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which gets
7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives
me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the

HD

4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?









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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Greg Sevart
Yes, I am aware that it does not currently support TRIM, and I knew that
going in. Frankly, calling it a major disadvantage isn't really
accurate--the Intel drives have extremely good used performance without it.
Any increase in latency is going to be tiny. My 4k random I/O numbers are
still quite a bit better than a single drive.

It's likely that a new generation of Intel RAID drivers will support TRIM,
but again, it isn't as huge of a deal as some make it out to be.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Eli Allen
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:25 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey
 
 One major disadvantage, you can't use TRIM on the drives and I'm
 guessing the raid will increase latency a bit.
 
 Eli
 
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:
  Yes. When I was weighing getting one 160GB G2 vs two 80GBs and stripe
 them,
  I opted for the later since the price was nearly the same. I don't
 really
  think it gets me that much better real world performance, but it does
 help
  on sequential writes, which is one area the Intel SSDs are a bit
 weak. There
  is an increased chance of data loss, but I back up my machine
 nightly, so I
  don't worry too much about that either.
 
  The greatest thing, however, is that in a couple years when it's time
 to
  move on to a newer, faster, bigger SSD, I can upgrade two other
 systems
  instead of just one. That was the biggest reason behind it.
 
  Greg
 




Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Joe User
Hello Anthony,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 5:09:07 PM, you wrote:

 It's called obsession, my friend!


That answers that!


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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Stan Zaske

LOL

On 1/14/2010 5:09 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

It's called obsession, my friend!

On 1/14/2010 5:42 PM, Joe User wrote:

Hello Anthony,

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:15:22 PM, you wrote:


I think I'm going to install a gameso I can say I'm not going for
bragging rights trying to get my WEI graphic scores above 7. :)


Ok seriously... what's up with WEI. I see all this talk about it, it
cannot be that good of a benchmark.





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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-14 Thread Stan Zaske
A Gigabyte 785 chipset mobo with a Phenom II X2 545 OC'd to 3.750 GHz @ 
1.4v. A 500 GB hardrive and DVD burner all housed in a Cooler Master 
CM690 with 4 120mm fans. My dedicated gaming box. :-)



On 1/14/2010 5:11 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
What have you got in that beast?  I have a dual core E6850 system here 
that uses 60 W at idle and 120 W loaded.  Of course, it has a super 
wimpy vidcard it in at the moment.


On 1/14/2010 3:07 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I'm really enjoying my 5770. Acording to my Kill A Watt the idle 
power went from 150 to 115 and loaded 235 to 205. Pretty good drop 
and a lot faster to boot.



On 1/13/2010 9:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which 
gets

7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 
285

graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives
me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 
5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay 
with

what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the

HD

4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?









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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-13 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under 
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to 
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks under 
it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home system.  
Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd need some good 
reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under Win7 and less power 
consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD 4670 was a good buy 
for my office system, though.  I can't see buying a top of the line 
vidcard as I NEVER play games.


On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech 
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old 
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and 
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much 
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not 
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80 
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850 
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody 
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?




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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-13 Thread Stan Zaske
Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad. 
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare 
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850 
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with 
what you have.




On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under 
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to 
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks 
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home 
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd 
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under 
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD 
4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying 
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.


On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech 
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old 
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and 
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much 
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not 
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80 
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850 
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody 
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?




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Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-13 Thread Bobby Heid
I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad. 
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare 
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850 
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with 
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
 Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under 
 Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to 
 something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks 
 under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home 
 system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd 
 need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under 
 Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the HD 
 4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying 
 a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

 On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
 Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech 
 HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old 
 (VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and 
 burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much 
 cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not 
 exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80 
 so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850 
 but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody 
 else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?





Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-13 Thread Greg Sevart
My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which gets
7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey
 
 I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
 graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives
 me
 7.4 for both graphics scored.
 
 My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
 drive
 and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.
 
 Bobby
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey
 
 Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
 Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
 the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
 or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
 what you have.
 
 
 
 On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
  Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
  Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
  something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
  under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
  system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
  need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
  Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the
 HD
  4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
  a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.
 
  On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
  Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
  HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
  (VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
  burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
  cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
  exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
  so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
  but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
  else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?
 
 





Re: [H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-13 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

WowI get 7.4 with one Intel G2 SSD. Are yours striped?

On 1/13/2010 10:38 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

My 8800GT got 6.9, but I just replaced it with a Radeon 5770, which gets
7.4.

My disk sub-score is 7.9 with two Intel G2 SSDs. :)

   

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:44 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

I just installed Win 7 on my machine.  I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285
graphics card that I have had for about 9 months now.  This card gives
me
7.4 for both graphics scored.

My HD score is a lowly 5.9.  This is with a VelociRaptor for the boot
drive
and 3 1TB WD black drives.  I have dreams of SSDs.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:52 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Video Card survey

Graphics and gaming graphics are both 7.1 which is not bad.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what the old 4850 was so can't compare
the two. If you're looking for a 7.7 you'll need to step up to the 5850
or 5870 but what's the point if you never game. Might as well stay with
what you have.



On 1/13/2010 5:50 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
 

Cooler with less power is good.  What kind of WEI do you get under
Windows 7?  I've been thinking of upgrading my Geforce 8800 GTS to
something, as this inexpensive Radeon HD 4670 is just a few clicks
under it on WEI (6.4 vs 6.9).  I'd like to get above 7.0 on my home
system.  Of course, going from 6.9 to 7.0 is kinda stoopid, so I'd
need some good reasons to make that move (like a 7.7+ on WEI under
Win7 and less power consumption/heat and lower noise).  I think the
   

HD
 

4670 was a good buy for my office system, though.  I can't see buying
a top of the line vidcard as I NEVER play games.

On 1/12/2010 11:09 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
   

Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old
(VisionTech coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and
burned many more electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much
cooler (reported by Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not
exceeded 30% playing games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80
so don't feel guilty for spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850
but I just couldn't justify the price for my modest needs. Anybody
else bought a new card lately or got one for Xmas?
 


 


   




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[H] New Video Card survey

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Zaske
Well, I used some cash in my PayPal account and bought a VisionTech 
HD5770. It arrived today and it's a sweet video card. My old (VisionTech 
coincidently) HD4850 is noticeably less powerful and burned many more 
electrons at idle and load. The card also runs much cooler (reported by 
Catlalyst Control) and the fan so far has not exceeded 30% playing 
games. I paid $160 and sold my old card for $80 so don't feel guilty for 
spending the money. Too bad it's not a 5850 but I just couldn't justify 
the price for my modest needs. Anybody else bought a new card lately or 
got one for Xmas?