Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 10:21 PM 08/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote: Thane (et.al.), I finished a 24hr cycle using the WinDiag Ram test. No errors. For now this is a good result. I have some confidence in the remaining dimm I am using ATM. But, as you say, not really conclusive! By your metric, I'm not sure there will ever be a conclusive position. Actually, I'm dealing with a system that appears to have bad RAM. MemTest did catch it, after 84 passes (about three days) so perhaps MemTest is worth something to those with a lot of time. :) T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 01:20 AM 09/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: btw if it aint: http://www.memtest.org/ it sux :) Of course, it doesn't work very well, except on really, really bad RAM. But it's a start. I'm still looking for something capable of quickly and definitively testing RAM. I have a program that will cause errors to come up, but since it tests multiple components, is a slow option (but faster than MemTest.) T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
Windows is a pretty reliable diagnostic tool for determining when you have bad RAM. Unfortunately, it's also a pretty good diagnostic tool for dozens of other problems and always makes you guess which problem is causing which symptom :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Doesn't exist :) On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:02:24AM -0400, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:20 AM 09/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: btw if it aint: http://www.memtest.org/ it sux :) Of course, it doesn't work very well, except on really, really bad RAM. But it's a start. I'm still looking for something capable of quickly and definitively testing RAM. I have a program that will cause errors to come up, but since it tests multiple components, is a slow option (but faster than MemTest.) T -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
Thane, OK. I did also run the dimm with memtest+ v2.11 for 24+ hours (~47 passes) w/o any errors. I will now wind it up again and just let it run for the week. :) Thanks, Duncan At 08:00 01/12/2009 -0400, you wrote: At 10:21 PM 08/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote: Thane (et.al.), I finished a 24hr cycle using the WinDiag Ram test. No errors. For now this is a good result. I have some confidence in the remaining dimm I am using ATM. But, as you say, not really conclusive! By your metric, I'm not sure there will ever be a conclusive position. Actually, I'm dealing with a system that appears to have bad RAM. MemTest did catch it, after 84 passes (about three days) so perhaps MemTest is worth something to those with a lot of time. :) T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 10:00 AM 12/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: Doesn't exist :) Well, I think the hardware ones might do what I want, but I can't convince the powers that be that we should invest ~ $3500 US in a RAM tester. :) T On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:02:24AM -0400, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:20 AM 09/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: btw if it aint: http://www.memtest.org/ it sux :) Of course, it doesn't work very well, except on really, really bad RAM. But it's a start. I'm still looking for something capable of quickly and definitively testing RAM. I have a program that will cause errors to come up, but since it tests multiple components, is a slow option (but faster than MemTest.) T -- Bryan G. Seitz __ NOD32 3758 (20090112) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 10:10 AM 12/01/2009, Brian Weeden wrote: Windows is a pretty reliable diagnostic tool for determining when you have bad RAM. Unfortunately, it's also a pretty good diagnostic tool for dozens of other problems and always makes you guess which problem is causing which symptom :) Yeah, the joke here is that MS should get into writing hardware diagnostics since their software can find problems before anything else does. :) T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 12:07 PM 12/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: We have a few at work and they work so-so not gonna be much if at all better than memtestplus :( Well that's unfortunate. I guess I'm stuck running long tests. Oh well. T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 12:07 PM 12/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: We have a few at work and they work so-so not gonna be much if at all better than memtestplus :( Well that's unfortunate. I guess I'm stuck running long tests. Oh well. Even beyond that, $3500 for a memory tester? It would have to catch 100 bad sticks of memory to even come close to just paying for itself, let alone make a profit. Christopher Fisk -- Joe Swanson: [Joe is surprised to see fugitive Peter sumo wrestling] Oh, my God! Bonnie Swanson: [off-screen] Did you walk? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 01:00 PM 12/01/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 12:07 PM 12/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: We have a few at work and they work so-so not gonna be much if at all better than memtestplus :( Well that's unfortunate. I guess I'm stuck running long tests. Oh well. Even beyond that, $3500 for a memory tester? It would have to catch 100 bad sticks of memory to even come close to just paying for itself, let alone make a profit. Well, if I could get a RAM tester that would test RAM reliably in an hour, that'd probably make it worth it to me. T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:00 PM 12/01/2009, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 12:07 PM 12/01/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: We have a few at work and they work so-so not gonna be much if at all better than memtestplus :( Well that's unfortunate. I guess I'm stuck running long tests. Oh well. Even beyond that, $3500 for a memory tester? It would have to catch 100 bad sticks of memory to even come close to just paying for itself, let alone make a profit. Well, if I could get a RAM tester that would test RAM reliably in an hour, that'd probably make it worth it to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cleo ? =) Christopher Fisk -- Mal: So Shepard says to a Companion, Well, a good goat will do that. --Episode #5, Safe -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
Thane (et.al.),
I finished a 24hr cycle using the WinDiag Ram test. No errors. For now
this is a good result. I have some confidence in the remaining dimm I am
using ATM. But, as you say, not really conclusive!
By your metric, I'm not sure there will ever be a conclusive position.
OK.
The best news is that I have finally learned (read: found some burner sw
that a true lame-brain can work and use!) how to BURN CD's with :)
I used a proggy called CDBurnerXP. It just flat works. No magic switches
yet. Just CD's that boot and run. I suspect this may just be some 1st
Grade stuff; but, it worked here well...and, that is what I wanted
anyway... :)
[We need not discuss the many hours of grief trying to use some 'bundled'
sw from Corel/ULead. Dumb fools did not even give me an uninstall
path. Clean-up was another trip through both the Explorer and the
registry. I do so love a challenge! XP was most pliant here! Many Grace
Points!]
OK. {XP ru...@mycribnow!}
Next, burned a 2d CD with the dot-iso of memtest+2.11.It is now booted,
and running for the next 24hrs! I am so happy I almost can't stand this!
In any case, Burning just got really easy 4Me, finally. Not the sharpest
knife in drawer!Not a problem!... :)
Thank you for your counsel. Appreciated!
Best,
Duncan
At 13:12 01/07/2009 -0400, you wrote:
At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote:
Thane,
Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS?
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Just wondering? Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it is
now running. I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my suspect
new PC. So far, so good.
I've tried it and use it from time to time. About the same as MemTest -
if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a bad DIMM. If it
doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM.
T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
btw if it aint: http://www.memtest.org/
it sux :)
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:21:22PM -0500, DHSinclair wrote:
Thane (et.al.),
I finished a 24hr cycle using the WinDiag Ram test. No errors. For now
this is a good result. I have some confidence in the remaining dimm I am
using ATM. But, as you say, not really conclusive!
By your metric, I'm not sure there will ever be a conclusive position.
OK.
The best news is that I have finally learned (read: found some burner
sw that a true lame-brain can work and use!) how to BURN CD's
with :)
I used a proggy called CDBurnerXP. It just flat works. No magic
switches yet. Just CD's that boot and run. I suspect this may just be
some 1st Grade stuff; but, it worked here well...and, that is what I
wanted anyway... :)
[We need not discuss the many hours of grief trying to use some 'bundled'
sw from Corel/ULead. Dumb fools did not even give me an uninstall
path. Clean-up was another trip through both the Explorer and the
registry. I do so love a challenge! XP was most pliant here! Many
Grace Points!]
OK. {XP ru...@mycribnow!}
Next, burned a 2d CD with the dot-iso of memtest+2.11.It is now
booted, and running for the next 24hrs! I am so happy I almost can't
stand this!
In any case, Burning just got really easy 4Me, finally. Not the
sharpest knife in drawer!Not a problem!... :)
Thank you for your counsel. Appreciated!
Best,
Duncan
At 13:12 01/07/2009 -0400, you wrote:
At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote:
Thane,
Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS?
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Just wondering? Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it
is now running. I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my
suspect new PC. So far, so good.
I've tried it and use it from time to time. About the same as MemTest
- if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a bad DIMM.
If it doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM.
T
--
Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote: Thane, Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS? http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp Just wondering? Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it is now running. I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my suspect new PC. So far, so good. I've tried it and use it from time to time. About the same as MemTest - if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a bad DIMM. If it doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM. T
Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?
Thane, Yes, proving a good dimm seems like proving a double-negative!!! Not likely; well until we have a definitive standard's based diagnostic module. But, the way thinks change so quickly, I now understand your frustration.. :) Best, Duncan At 13:12 01/07/2009 -0400, you wrote: At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote: Thane, Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS? http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp Just wondering? Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it is now running. I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my suspect new PC. So far, so good. I've tried it and use it from time to time. About the same as MemTest - if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a bad DIMM. If it doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM. T
