Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
not the greatest but I am using this to monitor temps and speeds, cool and
quiet controls voltages and fans but I prefer my fans quiet and full speed.
Just found one called Silenz, the 120x38 moves 90cfm @ 18dba. :{) Asus sw
does log over temps and fan under speeds which is all I'm after.
haven't decided on a heatsink yet, do not want to remove the MB which limits me
some.
contenders are
thelmalright ultra 120 or si-128 coupled with a silenze 120x25 63 cpm 16dba fan
or the 90cfm one. only 3 wire power connector but fans are so quiet NBD
or thermaltakes big typhone vx, do not like their clip and manual speed
controlled fan.
I seem to like the fan blowing towards the cpu even with heatpipes. :{(
couple of others no need to mention.
fp
At 08:03 PM 6/27/2008, maccrawj Poked the stick with:
I know Asus makes the software, I was saying IT SUX! :(
Asus Probe2 is Intrusive, no logging, memory hog, interferes with network
printing, junk. No specs or source code from Asus, so a big FU if you don't
like their crap.
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Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
Side cover off causes same problem as water cooling does, not enough airflow to the other components of the mobo like vreg's HS on heatpipes for NB/SB result in higher localized temps on those components even though mobo cpu temp sensors show cooler. The fan on the Nocutra is supposed to be killer when combined whatever the bench HS (thermalright? offline writing this, can't check) according to a Anandtech HSF shoot-out, even better than the Scythe. Good luck finding US suppliers of Noctura when I checked a few months back. Biggest heat issue in my new system is that the HD3870x2 sits atop a dead air zone despite the TT Armor's 24CM side panel + front 12CM front intake fans. Damn thing idles at 40C Visiontek dual-fan cooler is (still superior to single fan, venting ref. design) non-vent design, so go figure. Since the 120MM is blowing through a 3x Barracuda 7200.11's in the 3-bay HDD cage, the side 24CM is mounted too high IMHO, and silent RPM levels all combine for lower air flow thus more heat. How high TT mounted the Armor's 24CM side fan is a glaring design flaw and surprisingly dumb vs. where the TT WinGo's dual side 8CM's were. TT fixed the dead zone AFAIK in the (even more expensive) Armor+. Since it's a dead air issue temporarily standing a 8CM Vantec Stealth blowing front-to-rear after the HDD cage helped, need a permanent solution. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] CPU is running @45-55C/core using the stock HSF @ low RPM which I'd like to lower 10C+ under load. Will likely install a Noctua NH-12P HSF, move the HDD cage up to make room for another 12CM front intake fan remove the 8CM Stealth and/or might mod the case to add mount to permanently mount a 12CM where the 8CM is now. Big issue with new mobo's IMHO is despite a plethora of fan temp probe headers there's a lack of good, free software to control/monitor since MBM is a dead project. As sweet as the Asus Rampage is, Q-Fan2 Asus Probe2 software suck. So an otherwise killer 2 or 3 IC package that comprises an extensive monitoring fan control setup sits useless without proper software. Tried Everest to at least monitor but it it's polling seems to frakk the HDD controller causing all HDD's to suddenly disappear from time to time no explanation why. Sure wish there was a GOOD software project for Windows like Linux has providing better generic SMB/I2C drivers controls! Something else to consider in summer heat that just cost me: power brick, switch, router temperatures. Lost my Linksys WAP's 12V2A brick to heat suddenly a few weeks back noticed how hot all these things get w/ no active cooling. Thinking the next project for me is a box w/ a pair of fans forcing air through it, at least for the bricks. Rambling as usual, sorry! Damn this expensive hobby with no rule book that can easily bankrupt, LOL! FORC5 wrote: Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps ) snip
Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
Hello, -=Begin cut from previous message=- Big issue with new mobo's IMHO is despite a plethora of fan temp probe headers there's a lack of good, free software to control/monitor since MBM is a dead project. As sweet as the Asus Rampage is, Q-Fan2 Asus Probe2 software suck. So an otherwise killer 2 or 3 IC package that comprises an extensive monitoring fan control setup sits useless without proper software. Tried Everest to at least monitor but it it's polling seems to frakk the HDD controller causing all HDD's to suddenly disappear from time to time no explanation why. Sure wish there was a GOOD software project for Windows like Linux has providing better generic SMB/I2C drivers controls! -=End cut from previous message=- Look into nVidia and or the motherboard manufacturer for those utilities. I currently had to replace my nForce 680i due to a cmos error that could not be recovered with a nForce 780i. Yes I know, but I did not have any DDR3 memory or the money to spend on DDR3 for the 790i chipset. So, we all need to look to our motherboard manaufacturers and Chipset makers for that software utility now. Luckily, Asus and nVidia makes a the utilities there. Regards, -- Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: dowbeave
Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
I know Asus makes the software, I was saying IT SUX! :( Asus Probe2 is Intrusive, no logging, memory hog, interferes with network printing, junk. No specs or source code from Asus, so a big FU if you don't like their crap. Then you have your video card's sensors and fan controls still using SMB or I2C, so another app either vendor made crap (ATI CCC) or 3rd party Russian roulette that don't do everything. Using RivaTuner only reads 1 GPU 1 fan of my HD3870X2 and last ATI Tray tool beta I bothered with last month read the WRONG fan sensor. Further point was that these are standard IC's from the likes of Winbond and others using relatively standard SMB or I2C protocols so you'd think there would be as good utilities for windows as there are under linux. http://www.lm-sensors.org/ Unlike MBM, Everest 4.50 costs (moronic amounts of) money doing more than monitoring sensors, yet does not control fan speeds, and it's device driver (AFAIK) is crashing HDD device drivers randomly under load. Wasteland right now IMHO compared to MBM dumping volt temp data via syslog to my SQL database. Beave wrote: Hello, -=Begin cut from previous message=- Big issue with new mobo's IMHO is despite a plethora of fan temp probe headers there's a lack of good, free software to control/monitor since MBM is a dead project. As sweet as the Asus Rampage is, Q-Fan2 Asus Probe2 software suck. So an otherwise killer 2 or 3 IC package that comprises an extensive monitoring fan control setup sits useless without proper software. Tried Everest to at least monitor but it it's polling seems to frakk the HDD controller causing all HDD's to suddenly disappear from time to time no explanation why. Sure wish there was a GOOD software project for Windows like Linux has providing better generic SMB/I2C drivers controls! -=End cut from previous message=- Look into nVidia and or the motherboard manufacturer for those utilities. I currently had to replace my nForce 680i due to a cmos error that could not be recovered with a nForce 780i. Yes I know, but I did not have any DDR3 memory or the money to spend on DDR3 for the 790i chipset. So, we all need to look to our motherboard manaufacturers and Chipset makers for that software utility now. Luckily, Asus and nVidia makes a the utilities there. Regards, -- Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: dowbeave
Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
If your looking for a good cooler and it quiet and is nice at cooling try: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003 This is an excellent cooler if you are using a motherboard that can control the Fan speed. If you looking for CPU coolers Zalman is a good place to start. Regards, --- Begin original message --- Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps ) looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080 this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130 watts, my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my homework ) it's either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the weight ) do not wish to remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65 watt core 5600. errr shame on me suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really want to do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case. complete rebuild possible this winter. --- End of Original Message --- -- Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
thanks Tim, this one is cool but looks like socket 775 only, I'm am2 :{(
fp
At 07:23 AM 6/25/2008, Beave Poked the stick with:
If your looking for a good cooler and it quiet and is nice at cooling try:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003
This is an excellent cooler if you are using a motherboard that can control
the Fan speed. If you looking for CPU coolers Zalman is a good place to start.
Regards,
--- Begin original message ---
Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is great
unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter was not a
problem. Running with side cover off ( helps )
looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080
this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130 watts,
my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my homework ) it's
either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the weight ) do not wish to
remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65 watt core 5600. errr
shame on me
suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really want to
do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case.
complete rebuild possible this winter.
--- End of Original Message ---
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Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
thanks Tim, this one is cool but looks like socket 775 only, I'm am2 :{( fp
They also make an AM2 model which is very nice as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118020
I use this one in my AMD FX-60 system.
At 07:23 AM 6/25/2008, Beave Poked the stick with:
If your looking for a good cooler and it quiet and is nice at cooling try:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003
This is an excellent cooler if you are using a motherboard that can control
the Fan speed. If you looking for CPU coolers Zalman is a good place to start.
Regards,
--- Begin original message ---
Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is
great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter
was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps )
looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080
this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130
watts, my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my
homework ) it's either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the
weight ) do not wish to remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65
watt core 5600. errr
shame on me
suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really want to
do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case.
complete rebuild possible this winter.
--- End of Original Message ---
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Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
what is the box labeled fan control, what I mean is this needed if the mb
already has a 4 pin connector.
Picked up a silenx 120x38 ixtrema. 90cfm+ 18 dba. replaced the rear case fan (
vantec stealth 120x25 63 cfm @ 28dba. I have never seen a fan this quiet move
this much air.
need to find a 92 x 25 to replace the front enermax, not sure of cfm but it is
NOISY.
Giving the zalmans a good look, first look seems like I need to remove the mb.
am I wrong ?
with cool and quiet enabled temps are under control but have not PUSHED the cpu
yet and the side cover is back on.
thanks
Fred
At 09:19 AM 6/25/2008, Beave Poked the stick with:
thanks Tim, this one is cool but looks like socket 775 only, I'm am2 :{( fp
They also make an AM2 model which is very nice as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118020
I use this one in my AMD FX-60 system.
At 07:23 AM 6/25/2008, Beave Poked the stick with:
If your looking for a good cooler and it quiet and is nice at cooling try:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003
This is an excellent cooler if you are using a motherboard that can control
the Fan speed. If you looking for CPU coolers Zalman is a good place to start.
Regards,
--- Begin original message ---
Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is
great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter
was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps )
looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080
this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130
watts, my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my
homework ) it's either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the
weight ) do not wish to remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65
watt core 5600. errr
shame on me
suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really want to
do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case.
complete rebuild possible this winter.
--- End of Original Message ---
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Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
That Fan has a 3 pin connector. Also, it comes with a little fan controller as well you can set it to were you want. I have the 3 pin connected directly to the Motherboard in the CPU FAN connector. THe fan does speed up and slow down when needed. To put the CPU fan on you will need to remove te mother board to put on the Bottom Plate part so the the Fan is supported. It is the only drawback of the setup. I have been using Zalman fans since I got my AMD FX-60. I use an intel Core 2 Extreme now that I got like 1 year 8 months ago and the computer is still going strong. Although, I did need to replace the motherboard just recently and 1 of the RAM chips went bad and now running on 2GB of RAM. I have not changed the CPU fan yet since the computer was built. Good luck in your search. -- Begin Previous message Reply --- what is the box labeled fan control, what I mean is this needed if the mb already has a 4 pin connector. Picked up a silenx 120x38 ixtrema. 90cfm+ 18 dba. replaced the rear case fan ( vantec stealth 120x25 63 cfm @ 28dba. I have never seen a fan this quiet move this much air. need to find a 92 x 25 to replace the front enermax, not sure of cfm but it is NOISY. Giving the zalmans a good look, first look seems like I need to remove the mb. am I wrong ? with cool and quiet enabled temps are under control but have not PUSHED the cpu yet and the side cover is back on. --- End Previous Message reply --- thanks Fred -- Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: dowbeave
Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme with a Scythe S-Flex SFF21F fan
Perhaps the best option, however, would be to underclock and undervolt (or
use RMclock to manually limit how high it will ramp) during the hot summer
months.
I use water to keep my G0-stepping C2Q6600 at 3.6GHz cool, and an Ultra 120
(non extreme version) to keep my B3-stepping C2Q6600 at 2.8GHz cool
(downclocked from the 3.2 I ran when it was on water). Those chips are
probably close to or over the 130w your X2 6400 puts out.
Greg
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:28 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is
great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter
was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps )
looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080
this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130
watts, my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my
homework ) it's either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the
weight ) do not wish to remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65
watt core 5600. errr
shame on me
suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really
want to do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case.
complete rebuild possible this winter.
fp
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Re: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
thanks for the suggestion, these guys have always made some killer sinks, seems
I have some older ones in the pile 8-)
wonder if it will fit the case
fp
At 08:13 PM 6/24/2008, Greg Sevart Poked the stick with:
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme with a Scythe S-Flex SFF21F fan
Perhaps the best option, however, would be to underclock and undervolt (or
use RMclock to manually limit how high it will ramp) during the hot summer
months.
I use water to keep my G0-stepping C2Q6600 at 3.6GHz cool, and an Ultra 120
(non extreme version) to keep my B3-stepping C2Q6600 at 2.8GHz cool
(downclocked from the 3.2 I ran when it was on water). Those chips are
probably close to or over the 130w your X2 6400 puts out.
Greg
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:28 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] cpu coolers ? Az in the summer :{(
Running a coolermaster tx2 with cool and quiet enabled. CPU temp is
great unless I try to play a game. red lines every time. IN the winter
was not a problem. Running with side cover off ( helps )
looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106080
this is the only hs/fan I can find rated for the wattage involved, 130
watts, my 6400 is a 125 watt cpu ( shame on me for not doing my
homework ) it's either the monster fan ( clip looks to light for the
weight ) do not wish to remove mb to mount but is a option OR buy a 65
watt core 5600. errr
shame on me
suggestions appreciated. water may be a option but not one I really
want to do, have no real room for the hardware in my supermicro case.
complete rebuild possible this winter.
fp
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