RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Tony Antoniou]

Always suspect discs before burners. Use a decent brand like Verbatim or
TDK.

Adios,
Tony

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 9:16
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

I am using a sony drive to burn images. So do you think that might be
the cause of the skipping on peoples dvd players? But they said it
played fine first time and then started skipping on the 2nd and 3rd time
they played the disc. That makes me feel like it's a disc issue more
than a burner issue.

Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Greg Sevart]

It is possible, though I too would suspect media quality as the root cause. 
However, write quality is the output of a very tight equation based on both 
the drive (and firmware revision, for that matter) and the media. It is 
quite possible that a different burner would perform better with that media, 
and just as possible that your drive would do better on different media. The 
thing to remember, though, is that the best results are usually obtained by 
using (NEC, Pioneer, Plextor) + (Verbatim DataLifePlus, TaiyoYuden).


Greg

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From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive



I am using a sony drive to burn images. So do you think that might be
the cause of the skipping on peoples dvd players? But they said it
played fine first time and then started skipping on the 2nd and 3rd time
they played the disc. That makes me feel like it's a disc issue more
than a burner issue.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:54 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive




I myself purchase nothing but Plextor. Got my 16X when they were

offering

a
$30 rebate - and it only took less than 4 weeks to get it - which is

some

kind of record, for me at least.

Not only do they perform extremely well, I find them durable having

burned

at least 200 DVD's so far on it.


Plextor, Pioneer, and NEC all make solid, good DVDRW drives. IMO,
Plextor
doesn't warrant the price premium, but whatever. Nobody makes an
'excellent'
DVDRW drive anymore, back like when Plextor made the absolute, bar-none
best
CD-RW drives <16X.



Not really discussed here is another plus with Plextor's. That is -->

you

can actually find upgrades without wading through 15 pages and 3

sites.

Sony
has their stuff buried who knows where.



But third party/community support is nil compared to both Pioneer and
NEC.


I have stopped using Lite-on all together as their support and

durability

are close to zero.



Agreed, Lite-On DVDRW drives are crap. Sony simply sells rebadged
Lite-On
units, so they are also crap.

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Mesdaq, Ali]

I am using a sony drive to burn images. So do you think that might be
the cause of the skipping on peoples dvd players? But they said it
played fine first time and then started skipping on the 2nd and 3rd time
they played the disc. That makes me feel like it's a disc issue more
than a burner issue.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:54 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive


>
> I myself purchase nothing but Plextor. Got my 16X when they were
offering 
> a
> $30 rebate - and it only took less than 4 weeks to get it - which is
some
> kind of record, for me at least.
>
> Not only do they perform extremely well, I find them durable having
burned
> at least 200 DVD's so far on it.

Plextor, Pioneer, and NEC all make solid, good DVDRW drives. IMO,
Plextor 
doesn't warrant the price premium, but whatever. Nobody makes an
'excellent' 
DVDRW drive anymore, back like when Plextor made the absolute, bar-none
best 
CD-RW drives <16X.

>
> Not really discussed here is another plus with Plextor's. That is -->
you
> can actually find upgrades without wading through 15 pages and 3
sites. 
> Sony
> has their stuff buried who knows where.
>

But third party/community support is nil compared to both Pioneer and
NEC.

> I have stopped using Lite-on all together as their support and
durability
> are close to zero.
>

Agreed, Lite-On DVDRW drives are crap. Sony simply sells rebadged
Lite-On 
units, so they are also crap.

Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Greg Sevart]

I myself purchase nothing but Plextor. Got my 16X when they were offering 
a

$30 rebate - and it only took less than 4 weeks to get it - which is some
kind of record, for me at least.

Not only do they perform extremely well, I find them durable having burned
at least 200 DVD's so far on it.


Plextor, Pioneer, and NEC all make solid, good DVDRW drives. IMO, Plextor 
doesn't warrant the price premium, but whatever. Nobody makes an 'excellent' 
DVDRW drive anymore, back like when Plextor made the absolute, bar-none best 
CD-RW drives <16X.




Not really discussed here is another plus with Plextor's. That is --> you
can actually find upgrades without wading through 15 pages and 3 sites. 
Sony

has their stuff buried who knows where.



But third party/community support is nil compared to both Pioneer and NEC.


I have stopped using Lite-on all together as their support and durability
are close to zero.



Agreed, Lite-On DVDRW drives are crap. Sony simply sells rebadged Lite-On 
units, so they are also crap.

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[rls]

That's a good price on the Pioneer.

I myself purchase nothing but Plextor. Got my 16X when they were offering a
$30 rebate - and it only took less than 4 weeks to get it - which is some
kind of record, for me at least.

Not only do they perform extremely well, I find them durable having burned
at least 200 DVD's so far on it.

Not really discussed here is another plus with Plextor's. That is --> you
can actually find upgrades without wading through 15 pages and 3 sites. Sony
has their stuff buried who knows where.

I have stopped using Lite-on all together as their support and durability
are close to zero.

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Wayne Johnson]

Mwave has them even cheaper. 
 & no rebate to 
deal with.


At 01:18 PM 8/25/2005, Bobby Heid typed:

I was looking for something on Buy.com and came across what looks like a
good deal on a Pioneer DVD writer.  Unfortunately, they are temporarily out
of stock.  But in case anyone is interested:

http://www.buy.com/prod/Pioneer_16X_DVD_RW_Dual_Layer_Internal_Writer_Beige_
DVR_A09XLA/q/loc/449/10399833.html

http://tinyurl.com/d2wut

Pioneer 16X DVDRW Dual Layer Internal Writer - Beige - DVR-A09XLA

Our Price: $92.99
Price After Rebate(s):  $62.99
List Price:  $109.99

Rebate link:
http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/pdfs/05Q2/0627-0730dk_multiplepioneer.pd
f

Good through 8/31/05

Bobby


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Bobby Heid]

I was looking for something on Buy.com and came across what looks like a
good deal on a Pioneer DVD writer.  Unfortunately, they are temporarily out
of stock.  But in case anyone is interested:

http://www.buy.com/prod/Pioneer_16X_DVD_RW_Dual_Layer_Internal_Writer_Beige_
DVR_A09XLA/q/loc/449/10399833.html

http://tinyurl.com/d2wut

Pioneer 16X DVDRW Dual Layer Internal Writer - Beige - DVR-A09XLA

Our Price: $92.99
Price After Rebate(s):  $62.99
List Price:  $109.99

Rebate link:
http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/pdfs/05Q2/0627-0730dk_multiplepioneer.pd
f

Good through 8/31/05

Bobby

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Tony Antoniou]

Title: Message









I would avoid Sony. Especially since they’re
rebadged Lite-On’s, the build quality hasn’t proven itself to be
even half decent in my experience. I’ve already had 2 units which are
selective about working on an Asus board as opposed to a Gigabyte board.
Oddball stuff.

 



Adios,

Tony 

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in
Drums  --- 



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Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2005
10:00
To: Bobby Heid; 'The
 Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc
with Drive

 



I meant to answer your question about which drive also.  The
latest consensus seems to be the Pioneer, Plextor, NEC, and Sony (I think these
are rebadged Lite-Ons) drives.  I would still research further and not
take my word for it.  I got a great deal on the Plextor back in
March.  I was going to get the Pioneer until I came across the Plextor
deal.





 





Bobby





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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005
7:35 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc
with Drive



Prerecorded DVDs are pressed, not burned.  That is a much
better process than burning them.





 





Bobby





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005
7:07 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc
with Drive

Yeah but why do movies from blockbuster work for everyone. There
should be a good way of making custom dvd’s for home. So is plextor
burners the best to go with. Is it better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD
burners? What about Single vs Dual layer Discs?

 



 

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Bobby Heid]

Title: Message



I 
meant to answer your question about which drive also.  The latest consensus 
seems to be the Pioneer, Plextor, NEC, and Sony (I think these are rebadged 
Lite-Ons) drives.  I would still research further and not take my word for 
it.  I got a great deal on the Plextor back in March.  I was going to 
get the Pioneer until I came across the Plextor deal.
 
Bobby

  
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Bobby HeidSent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:35 
  AMTo: 'The Hardware List'Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc 
  with Drive
  Prerecorded DVDs are pressed, not burned.  That is a much better 
  process than burning them.
   
  Bobby
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, 
AliSent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The 
Hardware ListSubject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc with 
Drive

Yeah but why do 
movies from blockbuster work for everyone. There should be a good way of 
making custom dvd’s for home. So is plextor burners the best to go with. Is 
it better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD burners? What about Single 
vs Dual layer Discs?
 

 

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Bobby Heid]

Title: Message



Prerecorded DVDs are pressed, not burned.  That is a much better 
process than burning them.
 
Bobby

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Mesdaq, AliSent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:07 
  PMTo: The Hardware ListSubject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc 
  with Drive
  
  Yeah but why do 
  movies from blockbuster work for everyone. There should be a good way of 
  making custom dvd’s for home. So is plextor burners the best to go with. Is it 
  better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD burners? What about Single vs 
  Dual layer Discs?
   
  
   

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Wayne Johnson]

At 09:10 PM 8/23/2005, FORC5 typed:
I was using Ritek g04's but had trouble with g05's, had good luck with 
memorex.
went to TDK from Costco, just got 200 for $.023 ea ( on sale ) no trouble 
with them yet (bought + 8x, burn at 16 in my Pioneer )


I've never had a problems with Ritek G04s or G05s with my Pioneer drives. 
I've burned G04s @ 8x & G05s @ 16x but I usually burn the G05s @ 12x 
because that's what I saw recommended some where then the dude that 
recommended those testing apps also stated that 12x was good. My Pioneer 
drives seem to burn on any thing & I can burn Princo 4x disks @ 8x as well.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[FORC5]

I was using Ritek g04's but had trouble with g05's, had good
luck with memorex.
went to TDK from Costco, just got 200 for $.023 ea ( on sale ) no trouble
with them yet (bought + 8x, burn at 16 in my Pioneer )
fp
At 04:16 PM 8/23/2005, Winterlight Poked the stick with:
At 04:07 PM 8/23/2005, you
wrote:
Yeah but why do movies from
blockbuster work for everyone. There should be a good way of making
custom dvd's for home. So is plextor burners the best to go with. Is it
better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD burners? What about Single
vs Dual layer Discs?

I saw that thread too but I don't think you have to go that far. PCMAG
did a article about these, and CDR blanks. Apparently, while there are
many brands there are only about 7 manufactures in the world. So where
they actually come from is a crap shoot.
Memorex is a manufacturer, which means that can control quality better
then others. I buy Memorex CDR RW DVD +RW DVD -R at places like OfficeMax
on sale for as little as 34 cents a piece for 4, 8 or 16X DVD -R and I
have never had a problem playing them in any machine at least so far.
My two machines are a Sony and a Toshiba, and my sisters use Panasonic,
Samsung, Onkyo and so far no problems.  


-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
    --Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of
Patents, 1899.

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[FORC5]

DVD rom disks are different, not aware of anyway to make
them on a PC.
Dual layer are better capacity ( more like DVD rom disks ) but even worse
compatibility even though they play fine on my Sony that skips with other
dvd's
fp
At 04:07 PM 8/23/2005, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:

Yeah but why do movies from
blockbuster work for everyone. There should be a good way of making
custom dvd’s for home. So is plextor burners the best to go with. Is it
better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD burners? What about Single
vs Dual layer Discs?
 


From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
FORC5
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:41 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive
 
there is a good chance your dvd's just will not make everyone happy, ppl
buy the cheapest players they can ( mostly )
good luck
At 12:36 PM 8/23/2005, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:
I saw a big long ass thread about this last week but its too much to
go
through. But I am sure everyone has come to a consensus of the best
Discs and drives for burning dvd's. 
I am making custom dvd's and they are starting to skip on peoples
players. I am starting to think it might be the discs or the burner.
Someone here said there was a good test to run on dvd's but they
never
posted up the software that can do that. I want to create really
reliable discs.
Thanks in advance.
-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk?

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
    --Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of
Patents, 1899.

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Winterlight]

At 04:07 PM 8/23/2005, you wrote:
Yeah but why do movies from blockbuster work for everyone. There should be 
a good way of making custom dvd's for home. So is plextor burners the best 
to go with. Is it better to use Single layer or Dual layer DVD burners? 
What about Single vs Dual layer Discs?




I saw that thread too but I don't think you have to go that far. PCMAG did 
a article about these, and CDR blanks. Apparently, while there are many 
brands there are only about 7 manufactures in the world. So where they 
actually come from is a crap shoot.


Memorex is a manufacturer, which means that can control quality better then 
others. I buy Memorex CDR RW DVD +RW DVD -R at places like OfficeMax on 
sale for as little as 34 cents a piece for 4, 8 or 16X DVD -R and I have 
never had a problem playing them in any machine at least so far. My two 
machines are a Sony and a Toshiba, and my sisters use Panasonic, Samsung, 
Onkyo and so far no problems.  

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Mesdaq, Ali]

Yeah but why do movies from blockbuster
work for everyone. There should be a good way of making custom dvd’s for
home. So is plextor burners the best to go with. Is it better to use Single
layer or Dual layer DVD burners? What about Single vs Dual layer Discs?

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005
2:41 PM
To: The
 Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Best DVD disc
with Drive



 

there is a good chance your dvd's just will not make everyone happy,
ppl buy the cheapest players they can ( mostly )
good luck

At 12:36 PM 8/23/2005, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:



I saw a big long ass thread about this last week but its too much to go
through. But I am sure everyone has come to a consensus of the best
Discs and drives for burning dvd's. 
I am making custom dvd's and they are starting to skip on peoples
players. I am starting to think it might be the discs or the burner.
Someone here said there was a good test to run on dvd's but they never
posted up the software that can do that. I want to create really
reliable discs.
Thanks in advance.

--

Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk?

Re: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[FORC5]

there is a good chance your dvd's just will not make
everyone happy, ppl buy the cheapest players they can ( mostly )
good luck
At 12:36 PM 8/23/2005, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:
I saw a big long ass thread
about this last week but its too much to go
through. But I am sure everyone has come to a consensus of the best
Discs and drives for burning dvd's. 
I am making custom dvd's and they are starting to skip on peoples
players. I am starting to think it might be the discs or the burner.
Someone here said there was a good test to run on dvd's but they
never
posted up the software that can do that. I want to create really
reliable discs.
Thanks in advance.

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk?

RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive

[Bobby Heid]

Plextools (which came with my Plextor drive) will perform the tests that
were spoken of.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive


I saw a big long ass thread about this last week but its too much to go
through. But I am sure everyone has come to a consensus of the best
Discs and drives for burning dvd's. 
I am making custom dvd's and they are starting to skip on peoples
players. I am starting to think it might be the discs or the burner.
Someone here said there was a good test to run on dvd's but they never
posted up the software that can do that. I want to create really
reliable discs.
Thanks in advance.