Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-21 Thread Tim Ellison
I don't think they videoed the sideshows, but JavaOne have made the
slides that were submitted available on-line.

Go to
http://www.cplan.com/javaone2006/contentcatalog

search on keyword Harmony (and make note of the username and password
shown on that page).

The presentation is available as it was originally submitted.  Geir and
I made some last minute changes that are not reflected there, but it is
close enough.

Feel free to ask any questions about the presentation.

Regards,
Tim

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 Oliver Deakin wrote:
 Great news! Thanks Intel, and well done to Geir and Tim for getting this
 together for JavaOne!
 
 BTW, is there a video of that presentation?
 

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Oliver Deakin
Great news! Thanks Intel, and well done to Geir and Tim for getting this 
together for JavaOne!


Tim Ellison wrote:

Way to go Intel!

During the JavaOne talk we were able to demonstrate the following
applications running on last Friday's snapshot build of Harmony with
the IBM VME:

 - RSSOwl 1.2 atom/rss newsreader (www.rssowl.org)
 - Tomcat 5.5.17, the JSP and Servlet examples
 - Eclipse 3.2 RC4 and how it is used for componentised development

and as Geir already said, his announcement of AWT/Swing allowed us to demo:

 - JEdit, a non-trivial Swing application

We are learning a lot about how to manage large contributions into the
Harmony project, and I think everyone is doing a great job.

Code talks.  This much code talks loudly.

Thanks again
Tim

Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
  

Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was proud to
demonstrate JEdit running on Harmony!

That's right, with Swing/AWT code.  The formal contribution is on it's
way, and I don't wish to steal any more thunder from the contribution
when it's made, but we (Intel hat on here..) wasn't able to make the
donation in time for the talk today because of internal process loose
ends, and I wanted to make a splash for us at JavaOne.

I expect it will be here in the next couple of days.

Harmony - The question of compatible open source isn't whether, but when!

geir

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Oliver Deakin wrote:
 Great news! Thanks Intel, and well done to Geir and Tim for getting this
 together for JavaOne!

BTW, is there a video of that presentation?

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Alexey Petrenko

2006/5/19, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BTW, is there a video of that presentation?

You do not need video!
You'll try it yourself soon. If everything will be ok... :)

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Intel Middleware Products Division


RE: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Magnusson, Geir
Everything will be ok.  It's just dotted I's and crossed T's.

And no, there is no video. :)

geir

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 2006/5/19, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  BTW, is there a video of that presentation?
 You do not need video!
 You'll try it yourself soon. If everything will be ok... :)
 
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 Intel Middleware Products Division
 

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Magnusson, Geir wrote:
 Everything will be ok.  It's just dotted I's and crossed T's.
 
 And no, there is no video. :)

The video was to enjoy Geir's smile not to see harmony working ;-)

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-19 Thread Alexey Petrenko

2006/5/20, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The video was to enjoy Geir's smile not to see harmony working ;-)

Yep! Video is really needed! :)

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Intel Middleware Products Division


Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-18 Thread Leo Simons
I wrote recently with regard to suns comments on OSS java:
 You know, 2 years ago I would've pretty much jumped up and
 down a little and I'd have gone whoohooh!.

Then, On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 03:31:15PM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was proud to 
 demonstrate JEdit running on Harmony!

/me jumps up and down a little, goes whoohooh!, and even does a little
dance.

Congrats harmony!

Now all I need is IntelliJ running on harmony and then I'll even known how
to contribute codewise (I don't really know how to write java anymore. I just
write things like CTRL+SPACE+TAB+SHIFT+X+_+G+T and code comes out).

 I expect it will be here in the next couple of days.

Kewl.

What I *really* want to know is how this'll be tested. Word out on the
street is that automated compatibility on a UI level has never really been
attempted for anything as complex as swing.

LSD

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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-18 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leo Simons wrote:
 I wrote recently with regard to suns comments on OSS java:
 You know, 2 years ago I would've pretty much jumped up and
 down a little and I'd have gone whoohooh!.
 
 Then, On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 03:31:15PM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was proud to 
 demonstrate JEdit running on Harmony!
 
 /me jumps up and down a little, goes whoohooh!, and even does a little
 dance.
 
 Congrats harmony!

/me jumps around with leo

 Now all I need is IntelliJ running on harmony and then I'll even known how
 to contribute codewise (I don't really know how to write java anymore. I just
 write things like CTRL+SPACE+TAB+SHIFT+X+_+G+T and code comes out).

eheh

 I expect it will be here in the next couple of days.
 
 Kewl.
 
 What I *really* want to know is how this'll be tested. Word out on the
 street is that automated compatibility on a UI level has never really been
 attempted for anything as complex as swing.

one option: VNC. record a stream of keystrokes and mouse events and
record the video that comes out.

and, of course, Sun might not pass its own TCK at that point ;-)

-- 
Stefano.


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Re: [announce] Swing/AWT Donation Coming...

2006-05-18 Thread Tim Ellison
Way to go Intel!

During the JavaOne talk we were able to demonstrate the following
applications running on last Friday's snapshot build of Harmony with
the IBM VME:

 - RSSOwl 1.2 atom/rss newsreader (www.rssowl.org)
 - Tomcat 5.5.17, the JSP and Servlet examples
 - Eclipse 3.2 RC4 and how it is used for componentised development

and as Geir already said, his announcement of AWT/Swing allowed us to demo:

 - JEdit, a non-trivial Swing application

We are learning a lot about how to manage large contributions into the
Harmony project, and I think everyone is doing a great job.

Code talks.  This much code talks loudly.

Thanks again
Tim

Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was proud to
 demonstrate JEdit running on Harmony!
 
 That's right, with Swing/AWT code.  The formal contribution is on it's
 way, and I don't wish to steal any more thunder from the contribution
 when it's made, but we (Intel hat on here..) wasn't able to make the
 donation in time for the talk today because of internal process loose
 ends, and I wanted to make a splash for us at JavaOne.
 
 I expect it will be here in the next couple of days.
 
 Harmony - The question of compatible open source isn't whether, but when!
 
 geir
 
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