Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. -- Regards, Anton Luht, Intel Java XML Engineering
RE: [general] Harmony Todo list
What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. Антоха, я могу ошибаться, но вроде бы COO и код скан - это такие внутренние Интеловские прибамбасы. :) Саня. -Original Message- From: Anton Luht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:28 AM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Todo list Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. -- Regards, Anton Luht, Intel Java XML Engineering
RE: [general] Harmony Todo list
Folks, I'm awfully sorry, that should have been personal letter. If you don't understand Russian just ignore it. If you understand it please ignore it too. My favorite mistake to Reply to the mailing list and not change the recipient. :) Thanks, Alex. -Original Message- From: Orlov, Alexander M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 AM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [general] Harmony Todo list What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. Антоха, я могу ошибаться, но вроде бы COO и код скан - это такие внутренние Интеловские прибамбасы. :) Саня. -Original Message- From: Anton Luht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:28 AM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Todo list Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. -- Regards, Anton Luht, Intel Java XML Engineering
Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Anton Luht wrote: Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. It's your (and possibly anyone you are beholden to like your employer) call whether you bring the code to Harmony or not. Judging by the conversations on the list it sounds like something people would be interested in helping with. It would be destined for the 'standard' area of the repository, so normal ASF code contribution rules would apply. Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK.
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:)) -Original Message- From: Tim Ellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:07 PM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Todo list Orlov, Alexander M wrote: Folks, I'm awfully sorry, that should have been personal letter. If you don't understand Russian just ignore it. If you understand it please ignore it too. My favorite mistake to Reply to the mailing list and not change the recipient. :) Don't worry, we all do it. And for fun of course I had to paste it into BabelFish (I learnt Russian at school for two years, but that was a _long_ time ago). I don't wish to embarrass you, I just thought it was funny that you said (apparently): Antokha, I can make mistakes, but like COO and the code is scan - these are such internal Intelovskiye pribambasy. I particularly like Intelovskiye :-) Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK.
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+1 Intelovskiye is just the exact spelling of the russian pronunciation. It is interesting how it translates this back to Russian. :-D 17.11.06, Mikhail Loenko[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а): LOL 17.11.06, Tim Ellison[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а): Orlov, Alexander M wrote: Folks, I'm awfully sorry, that should have been personal letter. If you don't understand Russian just ignore it. If you understand it please ignore it too. My favorite mistake to Reply to the mailing list and not change the recipient. :) Don't worry, we all do it. And for fun of course I had to paste it into BabelFish (I learnt Russian at school for two years, but that was a _long_ time ago). I don't wish to embarrass you, I just thought it was funny that you said (apparently): Antokha, I can make mistakes, but like COO and the code is scan - these are such internal Intelovskiye pribambasy. I particularly like Intelovskiye :-) -- Alexei Zakharov, Intel Enterprise Solutions Software Division
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that's not half as fun as people setting their mailer to change the reply-to: to the list and then sending personal mail... ;) geir Orlov, Alexander M wrote: Folks, I'm awfully sorry, that should have been personal letter. If you don't understand Russian just ignore it. If you understand it please ignore it too. My favorite mistake to Reply to the mailing list and not change the recipient. :) Thanks, Alex. -Original Message- From: Orlov, Alexander M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 AM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [general] Harmony Todo list What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. Антоха, я могу ошибаться, но вроде бы COO и код скан - это такие внутренние Интеловские прибамбасы. :) Саня. -Original Message- From: Anton Luht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:28 AM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Todo list Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. -- Regards, Anton Luht, Intel Java XML Engineering
Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Anton Luht wrote: Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. Who wrote it? (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain.
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Who wrote it? The code? Me. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. -- Regards, Anton Luht, Intel Java XML Engineering
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All alone? Then as long as your employer doesn't consider it a work for hire - IOW, if Intel doesn't think that they paid you to do this - then you can contribute it yourself. Please check with your manager. If that is ok, then you can submit as a JIRA and as Tim noted, we'll put in 'standard'... geir Anton Luht wrote: Who wrote it? The code? Me. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain.
Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Anton Luht wrote: Stefano, - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it What's the procedure for this? Certificate of origin, etc? Is the code scan required before that? I can create a JIRA with the sources attached but the problem is they're changed often. (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yes, that'd be great. Fitting it to hosting that is more suitable for home pages is a pain in the brain. Anton, I'm deeply sorry, I confused you with (one of the) Alexey (have to admit that my brain is not tuned to remember so many russian-sounding names) Please accept my apologies. -- Stefano.
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--- Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is what I think Harmony needs: - a logo [no feather BS, something cool and trendy that we could print on mugs and t-shirts... and no duke crap either] c'mon man... Duke playing a concertina or something, that'd kick ass. :) -Matt Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Matt Benson wrote: --- Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is what I think Harmony needs: - a logo [no feather BS, something cool and trendy that we could print on mugs and t-shirts... and no duke crap either] c'mon man... Duke playing a concertina or something, that'd kick ass. :) Graphically maybe, marketing wise it's a bad idea and here's why: the 'java' coffee cup logo is super-protected but the duke is now free to use without restrictions (WTF does BSD licensing for a logo mean, anyway?), meaning that all 'java look-alikes' will have duke while only the 'certified javas' will have the coffee cup. I think we should stand clear of that distinction right away and have our own identity from the get-go. -- Stefano.
Re: [general] Harmony Todo list
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: here is what I think Harmony needs: - a logo [no feather BS, something cool and trendy that we could print on mugs and t-shirts... and no duke crap either] I was so hoping no one would suggest this... - professionally-looking web pages They're coming along - move 'harmonytest.org' source code in the harmony svn repository so that others can work on it (actually, I think we should host the harmony testing in our own zone and avoid depending on Alexey's own resources, but there is no hurry for that). Yep - continue the work on the 'buildtest' infrastructure and make it dump results automatically in harmonytest, but identifying the IP address and the OS and the various environment features (like gcc version and so on) Yep - I think it does that already. - identify benchmarks that we want to run against harmony and add those to buildtest so that they dump 'performance' information yep - plot results of such performance over time and send email in case a major regression occurs. yep Thoughts? Anything else? Lots :) geir
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Matt Benson wrote: --- Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is what I think Harmony needs: - a logo [no feather BS, something cool and trendy that we could print on mugs and t-shirts... and no duke crap either] c'mon man... Duke playing a concertina or something, that'd kick ass. :) Graphically maybe, marketing wise it's a bad idea and here's why: the 'java' coffee cup logo is super-protected but the duke is now free to use without restrictions (WTF does BSD licensing for a logo mean, anyway?), meaning that all 'java look-alikes' will have duke while only the 'certified javas' will have the coffee cup. I think we should stand clear of that distinction right away and have our own identity from the get-go. +1 Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK.
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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: here is what I think Harmony needs: - a logo [no feather BS, something cool and trendy that we could print on mugs and t-shirts... and no duke crap either] I was so hoping no one would suggest this... LOL -- I /knew/ that would come up g ...go on let's make it a competition too, ROTFL. Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK.
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On Thursday 16 November 2006 19:39, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [...] (WTF does BSD licensing for a logo mean, anyway?), It means that you don't have to distribute the source code of the logo :-), but it has to be accompanied by 200+ words of copyright notice and you can't use Sun's name to endorse your competition-winning graphic ... meaning that all 'java look-alikes' will have duke [...] Mika will never have duke, so long as I live. The coffe cup maybe, but not the pointy-headed red-nosed cretin. There are limits. :-) -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions BE0503765045 Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.k-embedded-java.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369
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Chris Gray wrote: On Thursday 16 November 2006 19:39, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [...] (WTF does BSD licensing for a logo mean, anyway?), It means that you don't have to distribute the source code of the logo :-), but it has to be accompanied by 200+ words of copyright notice and you can't use Sun's name to endorse your competition-winning graphic ... meaning that all 'java look-alikes' will have duke [...] Mika will never have duke, so long as I live. The coffe cup maybe, but not the pointy-headed red-nosed cretin. There are limits. :-) it's a tooth. An engorged tooth. With arms. geir
