RE: [Histonet] Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread Susan.Walzer
We use about the same amount but in our last 100% Alc.

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We use about 40ml of eosin in the first 100% alcohol in both of our large 
specimen  small biopsy machines.

Michelle



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wrote:

 Hello to all in histoland.  Are any of you using eosin on the processor
 to dye your small bx's?  If so, are you putting it in the 100% alcohol
 to do so?  Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 Allison Scott HT(ASCP)
 Histology Supervisor
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 Houston, Texas 77026
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[Histonet] Endothelial histochemistry

2010-10-22 Thread Ali Nasr Esfahani
Hi, I am just new in this group, so I hope this is the way I can get help.

I am doing histochemistry on human hypothalamus and I need to stain
endothelial cells. I tried UEA-I (lectin) and I got microvessels stained as
the whole and like a line. But I would like to have an image of the
endothelial cells of even larger vessels, the way that I can show cell by
cell in a circular shape of a vessel.

Could you help me and tell me what antibody or lectin helps me best.

Regards

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Re: [Histonet] Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread godsgal...@aol.com
We use cobalt blue as it does not interfere with FISH 

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We use about the same amount but in our last 100% Alc.

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We use about 40ml of eosin in the first 100% alcohol in both of our large 
specimen  small biopsy machines.

Michelle



On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Scott, Allison D allison_sc...@hchd.tmc.edu 
wrote:

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 to dye your small bx's?  If so, are you putting it in the 100% alcohol
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Re: [Histonet] Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread DKBoyd
We use eosin at the grossing bench on endoscopic specimens and hematoxylin 
on prostate/liver biopsies.  The pathologist drops a drop of stain on each 
specimen. 

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Hello to all in histoland.  Are any of you using eosin on the processor
to dye your small bx's?  If so, are you putting it in the 100% alcohol
to do so?  Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated.


Allison Scott HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
LBJ Hospital
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[Histonet] pituitary stain

2010-10-22 Thread mohamed abd el razik


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dear all
can you share me pituitary stain protocol called 
PAS/ celestine blue / Orange G? 
 
thanks in advance
 
mohamed




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RE: [Histonet] pituitary stain

2010-10-22 Thread Houston, Ronald
Mohamed,



The University of Nottingham Histology department has an extensive website of 
histology protocols:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/pathology/default.html



There is a protocol for PAS/OG on that site. I do not have any experience using 
it, but as it comes out of John Bancroft's old lab it will undoubtedly be very 
sound. It does differ somewhat from the method of AGE Pearse that I followed 
many, many moons ago in Glasgow. We also always performed an OFG 
(orange-fuchsin-green) method on all pituitary bxs (if you need a copy of that 
let me know).As I'm sure you are aware, tinctorial stains for pituitary 
adenomas have been replaced with immunohistochemistry for the hormones ACTH, 
FSH, GH, LH, prolactin and TSH:



PAS/OG



1.  Section to 70% alcohol

2.  leave in 70% alcohol for 5 minutes

3.  transfer to  Solution A for 15 minutes at room temp

4.  Wash in 70% alcohol for 5 minutes

5.  transfer to reducing rinse B for 5 minutes

6.  70% alcohol for 3 minutes

7.  rinse in running tap water

8.  Schiff's reagent 20-30 minutes

9.  wash in water 3 minutes

10.  Celestin Blue solution  10 minutes

11.  Rinse well in water

12.  Hematoxylin 10 minutes

13.  wash in water

14.  2% Orange G in 5% phosphotungstic acid for 3 minutes

15.  wash in water

16.  dehydrate, clear and mount



Result



Nuclei - black

RBC's  - yellow-orange

Alpha granules - orange

Beta granules  - magenta (PAS +ve)



Solution A



   Periodic acid - 400mg

   Distilled water   - 15 ml

   100% alcohol  - 35 ml



Reducing Solution B



   Sodium thiosulphate - 1gm

   Distilled water - 20ml

   100% alcohol- 30ml

   HCl - 0.5ml



Rationale

PAS converts 1,2 glycols to aldehyde. The reducing step is thought to block the 
subsequent reaction of collagen and retic fibers with the Schiff's reagent. 
Beta granules contain muco- or glycoproteins that react with Schiff's to give 
their magenta staining. Orange G, which is an acidic dye, stains the alpha 
granules. As RBC's are also acidophilic in nature, they also pick up the orange 
coloration.



Reference

Pearse AGE. The cytochemical demonstration of gonadotrophic hormone in the 
human anterior hypophysis. J Pathol Bacteriol. 1949: 61; 195-202





If you need a recipe for the celestin blue solution, drop me a line and I'll 
get it to you, but you should find it in most good histotechnology text-books, 
or on-line




Best wishes
Ronnie

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
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dear all

can you share me pituitary stain protocol called

PAS/ celestine blue / Orange G?



thanks in advance



mohamed









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[Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

2010-10-22 Thread Kendall Neely
Our laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near future.  
We would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the Thermo-Shandon 
Gemini, Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the Ventana Symphony. Thanks in 
advance for your input.


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[Histonet] Re: Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Richmond
Allison Scott at LBJ Hospital in Houston, Texas asks about the use of
eosin to dye small biopsy specimens.

Several replies mention addition of eosin to one of the processing
alcohols. I have never seen this done, in maybe 60 pathology services
I've worked in. (I'd know, because I nearly always examine the
paraffin block when I order recuts or send a case out for
consultation.)

It's a fine time-waster for the pathologist to mark small specimens
with dye while grossing. I've used Mercurochrome (merbromin, related
to eosin but with 26% mercury) which fortunately was banned in the USA
about ten years ago. I've used eosin, and I've used safranin (from the
microbiology lab's Gram stain setup). I don't know whether safranin
interferes with FISH, as eosin is well known to, nor do I know if you
can put safranin in the processing alcohol. And I've used Davidson
tissue marking inks.

I've never seen or heard of cobalt blue used for this purpose - is
this the insoluble coloring material, chemically cobalt aluminate?

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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[Histonet] eosin

2010-10-22 Thread Tench, Bill
I think the use in a processor becomes a local culture.  I think
everyone in my community does it (someone spread the word), so now we
all do.  I believe that we are all putting it in the last alcohol.  It
really makes facing a block on minute pieces a whole lot easier.  We
found marking the tissue directly tedious, and it didn't persist as well
in the processing.
  Because there is often so little visible material in our FNA cell
blocks, we mark the histogel pellet with Davidson ink, and when the tech
has just faced off the ink, he/she knows its time to start collecting
sections.
 
Bill Tench
Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
Chief, Cytology Services
Palomar Medical Center
555 E. Valley Parkway
Escondido, California  92025
bill.te...@pph.org
Voice: 760- 739-3037
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Re: [Histonet] Endothelial histochemistry

2010-10-22 Thread Kristen Lauing
Hi Ali,
Although I do not ever perform endothelial immunohistochemistry in our 
laboratory, I know it is common to use an antibody against CD31 to selectively 
stain endothelial cells and this may work well in pituitary tissue.
Hope that helps,
Kristen


 Ali Nasr Esfahani alina...@student.liu.se 10/22/10 5:31 AM 
Hi, I am just new in this group, so I hope this is the way I can get help.

I am doing histochemistry on human hypothalamus and I need to stain
endothelial cells. I tried UEA-I (lectin) and I got microvessels stained as
the whole and like a line. But I would like to have an image of the
endothelial cells of even larger vessels, the way that I can show cell by
cell in a circular shape of a vessel.

Could you help me and tell me what antibody or lectin helps me best.

Regards

Ali
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Re: [Histonet] Re: Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread DKBoyd
As much as I respect Dr. Richmond, I would have to disagree that staining 
bx's with eosin is a waste of pathologist time.  It helps the embedding 
tech and cutting tech see the minute pieces, which may be otherwise lost. 
Sometimes that is the diagnostic material.
We would not want to put a patient through another procedure because we 
couldn't recover the tissue submitted.
We use a vial with a dropper.  Once the biopsy is placed in the cassette 
you take 1 second more to drop a drop of eosin on the specimen. 
Well worth everyone's time in my humble opinion.


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Center I 
200 Medical Park Boulevard l Petersburg, Va.  23805 l T: 804-765-5050 l F: 
804-765-5582 l dkb...@chs.net







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Allison Scott at LBJ Hospital in Houston, Texas asks about the use of
eosin to dye small biopsy specimens.

Several replies mention addition of eosin to one of the processing
alcohols. I have never seen this done, in maybe 60 pathology services
I've worked in. (I'd know, because I nearly always examine the
paraffin block when I order recuts or send a case out for
consultation.)

It's a fine time-waster for the pathologist to mark small specimens
with dye while grossing. I've used Mercurochrome (merbromin, related
to eosin but with 26% mercury) which fortunately was banned in the USA
about ten years ago. I've used eosin, and I've used safranin (from the
microbiology lab's Gram stain setup). I don't know whether safranin
interferes with FISH, as eosin is well known to, nor do I know if you
can put safranin in the processing alcohol. And I've used Davidson
tissue marking inks.

I've never seen or heard of cobalt blue used for this purpose - is
this the insoluble coloring material, chemically cobalt aluminate?

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

2010-10-22 Thread sgoebel

   For  the love of your sanity (and keeping your pathologists happy)= DO
   NOT  BUY  A  SYMPHONY  Their reagents are all proprietary and so
troubleshooting  is  almost  impossible without paying Ventana to have
   tech he= lp loom around your lab.  The slides take 3 days or so to dry
   before  y=  ou can file them, so you have to have tons of counterspace
   (depending  on  yo=  ur volume) to let them sit there in slide folders
   before  you  can file. = ; The pathologists I worked with when we were
   trying  this  thing  out  hated t= he staining and said that it wasn't
   consistent from slide to slide.  N= ot to mention the physical size of
   the thing and the reagents are insane ex= pensive!!!

   Just my opinion =)

   Sarah Goebel, B.A., H= T (ASCP)
   Histotechnician
   XBiotech USA Inc.
   8201 East Riverside Dr. Bldg 4 Suite 100
   = em
   Austin, Te= xas  78744
   (512)386-2907

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   Our  laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near
   f=  uture.  We  would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the
   Thermo-Sh=  andon  Gemini, Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the
   Ventana Symphony.= Thanks in advance for your input.
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Re: [Histonet] eosin

2010-10-22 Thread histot...@imagesbyhopper.com
It sounds like I am in the minority in pitting the eosin in the *first* 100% 
alcohol!  

I agree with Bill, it really makes a HUGE difference in small, minute tissues.  
We did run into one issue though, we were using orange biopsy cassettes and the 
red-orange tissue was difficult to spot in the orange cassettes!  We have since 
switched to an aqua color and no more hiding specimens!  ;o)

Michelle



On Oct 22, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Tench, Bill bill.te...@pph.org wrote:

 I think the use in a processor becomes a local culture.  I think
 everyone in my community does it (someone spread the word), so now we
 all do.  I believe that we are all putting it in the last alcohol.  It
 really makes facing a block on minute pieces a whole lot easier.  We
 found marking the tissue directly tedious, and it didn't persist as well
 in the processing.
  Because there is often so little visible material in our FNA cell
 blocks, we mark the histogel pellet with Davidson ink, and when the tech
 has just faced off the ink, he/she knows its time to start collecting
 sections.
 
 Bill Tench
 Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
 Chief, Cytology Services
 Palomar Medical Center
 555 E. Valley Parkway
 Escondido, California  92025
 bill.te...@pph.org
 Voice: 760- 739-3037
 Fax: 760-739-2604
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] eosin

2010-10-22 Thread Blazek, Linda
We put eosin in the first 100% alcohol.  

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It sounds like I am in the minority in pitting the eosin in the *first* 100% 
alcohol!  

I agree with Bill, it really makes a HUGE difference in small, minute tissues.  
We did run into one issue though, we were using orange biopsy cassettes and the 
red-orange tissue was difficult to spot in the orange cassettes!  We have since 
switched to an aqua color and no more hiding specimens!  ;o)

Michelle



On Oct 22, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Tench, Bill bill.te...@pph.org wrote:

 I think the use in a processor becomes a local culture.  I think
 everyone in my community does it (someone spread the word), so now we
 all do.  I believe that we are all putting it in the last alcohol.  It
 really makes facing a block on minute pieces a whole lot easier.  We
 found marking the tissue directly tedious, and it didn't persist as well
 in the processing.
  Because there is often so little visible material in our FNA cell
 blocks, we mark the histogel pellet with Davidson ink, and when the tech
 has just faced off the ink, he/she knows its time to start collecting
 sections.
 
 Bill Tench
 Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
 Chief, Cytology Services
 Palomar Medical Center
 555 E. Valley Parkway
 Escondido, California  92025
 bill.te...@pph.org
 Voice: 760- 739-3037
 Fax: 760-739-2604
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

2010-10-22 Thread Sherwood, Margaret
We have a (refurbished) Lecia Autostainer XL and really like it. 

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:32 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

Our laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near future.
We would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the Thermo-Shandon Gemini,
Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the Ventana Symphony. Thanks in advance
for your input.


Kendall A. Neely
Histology Technical Specialist
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RE: [Histonet] eosin

2010-10-22 Thread Cathy
We add 1.0 mls of 10% aqueous Eosin to the first 100% Ethanol; we will then
have Eosin in all of the Ethanol containers after they have been rotated.
This removed the time consuming task of dotting each tissue at grossing and
allows for easy visualization at embedding and sectioning.  I have not had a
complaint about the eosin interfering with FISH from our referral lab.

 

Cathy Fitzpatrick

Anatomic Pathology Section Head

Kelowna General Hospital

 

 

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To: Tench, Bill
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] eosin

 

It sounds like I am in the minority in pitting the eosin in the *first* 100%
alcohol! 

I agree with Bill, it really makes a HUGE difference in small, minute
tissues.  We did run into one issue though, we were using orange biopsy
cassettes and the red-orange tissue was difficult to spot in the orange
cassettes!  We have since switched to an aqua color and no more hiding
specimens!  ;o)

Michelle



On Oct 22, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Tench, Bill bill.te...@pph.org wrote:

 I think the use in a processor becomes a local culture.  I think
 everyone in my community does it (someone spread the word), so now we
 all do.  I believe that we are all putting it in the last alcohol.  It
 really makes facing a block on minute pieces a whole lot easier.  We
 found marking the tissue directly tedious, and it didn't persist as well
 in the processing.
  Because there is often so little visible material in our FNA cell
 blocks, we mark the histogel pellet with Davidson ink, and when the tech
 has just faced off the ink, he/she knows its time to start collecting
 sections.

 Bill Tench
 Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
 Chief, Cytology Services
 Palomar Medical Center
 555 E. Valley Parkway
 Escondido, California  92025
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Re: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

2010-10-22 Thread Pamela Marcum


We have two leica XL Stainers and love them.  We don't have the unit to 
transfer to the coverslippers yet and that would be great but minor overall.  
We are just setting up some special stains on it and the run up- run down 
programs for special stains.  



Pam Marcum 

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please! 

We have a (refurbished) Lecia Autostainer XL and really like it. 

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:32 AM 
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please! 

Our laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near future. 
We would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the Thermo-Shandon 
Gemini, 
Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the Ventana Symphony. Thanks in advance 
for your input. 


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We have a (refurbished) Lecia Autostainer XL and really like it. 

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Subject: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please! 

Our laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near future. 
We would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the Thermo-Shandon 
Gemini, 
Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the Ventana Symphony. Thanks in advance 
for your input. 


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RE: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

2010-10-22 Thread Cathy
We are using the Sakura Prisma with attached coverslipper; it is a workhorse
and allows for the use of what ever reagents/stains that you prefer. We are
running our HE and H Pylori stains simultaneously.   We experienced a small
problem with the leveling of the instrument at the initial set up but once
that was corrected it has been working well since then.  The only draw back
that I can see with the attached coverslipper is that the slides take longer
to dry than with the older model.  The slides are kept horizontal rather
than vertical so the xylene doesn't run off.

 

Cathy Fitzpatrick

Anatomic Pathology Section Head

Kelowna General Hospital

 

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Subject: [Histonet] Need opinions on HE stainers please!

 

Our laboratory will be purchasing new HE stain equipment in the near
future.  We would like to hear the pros and cons out there for the
Thermo-Shandon Gemini, Sakura Prisma, Leica Autostainer XL and the Ventana
Symphony. Thanks in advance for your input.


Kendall A. Neely
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Re: [Histonet] Endothelial histochemistry

2010-10-22 Thread Thotakura, Anil Kumar
Hi Ali,

I tried FITC cd31 on mouse liver frozen section with tumors it worked really 
well.

Good luck,
Anil Kumar.


On 22/10/10 11:29, Ali Nasr Esfahani alina...@student.liu.se wrote:

Hi, I am just new in this group, so I hope this is the way I can get help.

I am doing histochemistry on human hypothalamus and I need to stain
endothelial cells. I tried UEA-I (lectin) and I got microvessels stained as
the whole and like a line. But I would like to have an image of the
endothelial cells of even larger vessels, the way that I can show cell by
cell in a circular shape of a vessel.

Could you help me and tell me what antibody or lectin helps me best.

Regards

Ali
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[Histonet] Processors

2010-10-22 Thread Cruise, Karen
Greetings Histologist,
Does anyone have positive or negative comments on the Thermo Citadel 1000 ? Is 
there an abundance of fumes during processing? 
 
Thanks again,
Karen
 
Karen E. Cruise
Histologist / Research Technician II
Washington University School of Medicine
Laboratory for Translational Pathology
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St Louis, MO 63110
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[Histonet] Microtome for undecalcified tissues

2010-10-22 Thread Adam Hacking
Hi,
 
I'm looking for a good used sledge or rotary microtome capable of cutting MMA 
emebdded bone specimens. Can anyone reccomend a good model, manufacturer, 
supplier or know of a good used machine ?
 
Many thanks.
 
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[Histonet] Histo Opening in MA

2010-10-22 Thread Alyssa Peterson
MPath Search Partners is looking for a Histotechnician/Histotechnologist
candidate for permanent direct hire in Massachusetts.



*Shift/Schedule:*

Monday-Friday, Day Shift Hours

* *

*Position: *Histotechnician/Histotechnologist



*Location: *

Pharmaceutical Company in the Burlington, MA area



*Requirements:*



HT/HTL ASCP preferred

Degree preferred

Must have experience with working with Animal Tissue



*Benefits:*


Generous PTO accrual schedule

401k
Competitive wages/benefits
Paid training

Health Benefits





*Application:*

To be considered please submit your resume in order to schedule a phone
screen with one of our recruiters. Please be aware that all resumes
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Re: [Histonet] Microtome for undecalcified tissues

2010-10-22 Thread Pamela Marcum


Depending on the size of the bone the Leica 2255 is a great mictorome to use 
with tungsten carbide blades.  It is heavy enough to larger blocks and is 
motorized.  If it is not motorized I would not try it for as that will give you 
the best results. 



Pam Marcum 




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Subject: [Histonet] Microtome for undecalcified tissues 

Hi, 
  
I'm looking for a good used sledge or rotary microtome capable of cutting MMA 
emebdded bone specimens. Can anyone reccomend a good model, manufacturer, 
supplier or know of a good used machine ? 
  
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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:42:52 AM 
Subject: [Histonet] Microtome for undecalcified tissues 

Hi, 
  
I'm looking for a good used sledge or rotary microtome capable of cutting MMA 
emebdded bone specimens. Can anyone reccomend a good model, manufacturer, 
supplier or know of a good used machine ? 
  
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[Histonet] I

2010-10-22 Thread Marilyn . A . Weiss

I will be out of the office starting  10/21/2010 and will not return until
10/25/2010.

In my absence please ask for Mary Campbell .  If this is urgent or you need
to speak to me directly  you can contact me on my cell phone number
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[Histonet] Histotech Opening in the Midwest

2010-10-22 Thread Alyssa Peterson
MPath Search Partners is looking for a Histotechncian/Histotechnologist
candidate for permanent direct hire in Wisconsin.



*Shift/Schedule:*

Monday-Friday, Day Shift Hours, 38 hours per week

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*Position: *Histotechnician/Histotechnologist



*Location: *

State of the art laboratory in Manitowoc, Wisconsin

10 Dermatology offices throughout WI

One centralized physician office laboratory





*Requirements:*



HT/HTL ASCP preferred

Degree preferred

Mohs experience



*Benefits:*


   * Generous PTO accrual schedule
   * 401k match  profit sharing
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   * Paid holidays
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Re: [Histonet] Re: Eosin to dye small Biopsies

2010-10-22 Thread Patrick Laurie
We have our grossing staff cover all GI biopsies, breast biopsies and
endometrial curettings or any small colorless tissue with 0.1% basic
fuchsin.  It leaves it a nice pinkish tint after processing, the specimens
are visible in the paraffin, and we haven't had any pathologist complaints.


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, dkb...@chs.net wrote:

 As much as I respect Dr. Richmond, I would have to disagree that staining
 bx's with eosin is a waste of pathologist time.  It helps the embedding
 tech and cutting tech see the minute pieces, which may be otherwise lost.
 Sometimes that is the diagnostic material.
 We would not want to put a patient through another procedure because we
 couldn't recover the tissue submitted.
 We use a vial with a dropper.  Once the biopsy is placed in the cassette
 you take 1 second more to drop a drop of eosin on the specimen.
 Well worth everyone's time in my humble opinion.


 Debbie M. Boyd, HT(ASCP) l Chief Histologist l Southside Regional Medical
 Center I
 200 Medical Park Boulevard l Petersburg, Va.  23805 l T: 804-765-5050 l F:
 804-765-5582 l dkb...@chs.net







 Robert Richmond rsrichm...@gmail.com
 Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 10/22/2010 10:44 AM

 To
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 Subject
 [Histonet] Re: Eosin to dye small Biopsies






 Allison Scott at LBJ Hospital in Houston, Texas asks about the use of
 eosin to dye small biopsy specimens.

 Several replies mention addition of eosin to one of the processing
 alcohols. I have never seen this done, in maybe 60 pathology services
 I've worked in. (I'd know, because I nearly always examine the
 paraffin block when I order recuts or send a case out for
 consultation.)

 It's a fine time-waster for the pathologist to mark small specimens
 with dye while grossing. I've used Mercurochrome (merbromin, related
 to eosin but with 26% mercury) which fortunately was banned in the USA
 about ten years ago. I've used eosin, and I've used safranin (from the
 microbiology lab's Gram stain setup). I don't know whether safranin
 interferes with FISH, as eosin is well known to, nor do I know if you
 can put safranin in the processing alcohol. And I've used Davidson
 tissue marking inks.

 I've never seen or heard of cobalt blue used for this purpose - is
 this the insoluble coloring material, chemically cobalt aluminate?

 Bob Richmond
 Samurai Pathologist
 Knoxville TN

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RE: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond and Cassettelabelers to Co-Path

2010-10-22 Thread Feher, Stephen
We have interfaced our Bonds with Soft Path LIS system.  My
justification for this started with using it for LEAN processes in that
the orders for IHC went directly from the Pathologist to the Bond and
eliminated the need for my techs to have to input individual orders for
IHC by hand.  Since we have set up our slide labelers to be recognized
as just another printer as far as the LIS is concerned, we do not use
paper labels at all but have 2d barcodes printed directly on our slides.
When an order is put in by the pathologist for IHC, my techs can see the
order, cut the section and print the slide with the correct bar code.
Bond recognizes the barcode and initializes the tests that have been
ordered and transferred from the pathologist.

This has accomplished the following:

No tech time lost in printing labels for slides to go on the bond.  No
ambiguity or lost IHC orders due to hand writing orders by the
pathologist.  No chance of keystroke errors on the part of my IHC tech
while putting manual orders into the Bond.  In addition to eliminating
hand writing and manual keystrokes, which are distinct patient safety
issue, I have calculated that having the interface has saved me
approximately 0.7 FTE.  Instead of having to hire extra staff to cover
increased workloads or wasting existing staff on extraneous tasks (hand
labeling, manually entering orders, etc), I can utilize them in other
areas.

The patient safety aspect of eliminating extra tasks involving manual
data entry is huge.  A majority of the lawsuits against pathology labs
involve some aspect of human error resulting from manual tasks in
labeling or data entry.  In addition to being able to market my lab as
patient safety focused, we have eliminated a major source of potential
lawsuits.  It's hard to put a price tag on what that saves other than to
say that the costs are sometimes much more than the dollar figures paid
out. 


Steve

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Akemi
Allison
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:01 PM
To: Walter Benton
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond and
Cassettelabelers to Co-Path

Hi Walter and Histo-subscribers,

Ist I want to thank Walter for his quick reply.  I appreciate your
answer!  2nd, I appreciate any and all replies, but does anyone have an
article that addresses issues that can occur such as:

Efficiency
Omitting Duplication of Tests ordered: Additional Slides, Special
Stains, IHC, FISH, CISH, Cost effectiveness due to omission of errors
Patient Safety

Thanks

Akemi Allison BS, HT (ASCP) HTL
Director
Phoenix Lab Consulting
Tele: 408.335.9994
E-Mail: akemiat3...@yahoo.com

On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Walter Benton wrote:

 Efficiency
 Patient Safety
 Orders for the Bond come directly from the LIS and can not be 
 misunderstood due to poor handwriting, since they are interfaced with 
 the LIS.


 Walter Benton HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Histology Supervisor
 Chesapeake Urology Associates
 806 Landmark Drive, Suite 126
 (All Deliveries to Suite 127)
 Glen Burnie, MD 21061
 443-471-5850 (Direct)
 410-768-5961 (Lab)
 410-768-5965 (Fax)
 wben...@cua.md
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet- 
 boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Akemi Allison  
 [akemiat3...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:33 PM
 To: Histonet
 Subject: [Histonet] interfacing the IHC bond and Cassette labelers  
 to Co-Path

 Hi out there in Histo Land!

 I would like your assistance in answering a question that was
 proposed by a friend who is not a histonet member.  I don't have the
 answer, but know that one of you would.  Below is the question:

 Could you help me justify the importance of interfacing our IHC bond
 and Cassette labelers to Co-Path? A simple paragraph,  or if you
 have, a white paper, that would be great.  I am attempting to get the
 interfaces approved through our IT Department and running up against
 some roadblocks.

 Thank you in advance for your assistance,

 Akemi Allison BS, HT (ASCP) HTL
 Director
 Phoenix Lab Consulting
 Tele: 408.335.9994
 E-Mail: akemiat3...@yahoo.com

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[Histonet] formalin specimen containers

2010-10-22 Thread Houston, Ronald
Does anyone know of or have access to changes in regulations for formalin 
specimen containers? At our recent CAP inspection, we were told that JCAHO and 
OSHA were mandating that formalin specimen containers should now have locking 
lids.

This is the first I have heard of this.

Thanks
Ronnie

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Manager

ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital

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[Histonet] Cheap slide scanner for rat brains?

2010-10-22 Thread Caroline Bass
Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have a good way to get low magnification images from slides? I
have some DAB stained rat coronal sections that I would like to digitize.
Basically, I want to have a picture of the entire section. It doesn¹t have
to be high resolution, just enough to make out the basic structures. Can
someone recommend a way to do this? I¹ve used a flat bed scanner in the
past, and I know some folks use an actual film slide scanner. What I¹m
interested in are tips for finding a solution, particularly what to avoid,
and model numbers that people have used. I don¹t want to keep buying
scanners until I found one that works.

And obviously I¹d like to keep the expenses to a minimum.

Finally, has anyone tried this scanner? It¹s a little pricey for me, but I
do like the idea behind it, although I wonder if it¹s just one of their
stock scanners that they have repainted, added an adapter and jacked up the
price for. It looks identical to other scanners that they sell for $300.

http://www.meyerinst.com/html/oem/pse4/

 
Thanks,

Caroline
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RE: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond andCassettelabelers to Co-Path

2010-10-22 Thread Rathborne, Toni
I'd be interested in knowing how this has impacted your pathologists. Were they 
resistant at first? The extra time inputting requests would now fall on them.  
And there is still a chance of keystroke errors with pathologist entry.
I'm not disagreeing with the comments you made, only wondering since you were 
able to save .7 FTE, where the .7 pathologist came from. Or is it the interface 
itself that saves the time, and not who enters it?
Also, did you have the slide printers before the LEAN process was implemented? 
or was it done because of LEAN and is part of the FTE savings?
I'm very interested in this process, but know the types of questions I'll need 
to have answers for. We're a Cerner facility, so some things will be different 
but the principal will be the same.

Toni

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]on Behalf Of Feher,
Stephen
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:32 PM
To: Akemi Allison; Walter Benton
Cc: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond
andCassettelabelers to Co-Path


We have interfaced our Bonds with Soft Path LIS system.  My
justification for this started with using it for LEAN processes in that
the orders for IHC went directly from the Pathologist to the Bond and
eliminated the need for my techs to have to input individual orders for
IHC by hand.  Since we have set up our slide labelers to be recognized
as just another printer as far as the LIS is concerned, we do not use
paper labels at all but have 2d barcodes printed directly on our slides.
When an order is put in by the pathologist for IHC, my techs can see the
order, cut the section and print the slide with the correct bar code.
Bond recognizes the barcode and initializes the tests that have been
ordered and transferred from the pathologist.

This has accomplished the following:

No tech time lost in printing labels for slides to go on the bond.  No
ambiguity or lost IHC orders due to hand writing orders by the
pathologist.  No chance of keystroke errors on the part of my IHC tech
while putting manual orders into the Bond.  In addition to eliminating
hand writing and manual keystrokes, which are distinct patient safety
issue, I have calculated that having the interface has saved me
approximately 0.7 FTE.  Instead of having to hire extra staff to cover
increased workloads or wasting existing staff on extraneous tasks (hand
labeling, manually entering orders, etc), I can utilize them in other
areas.

The patient safety aspect of eliminating extra tasks involving manual
data entry is huge.  A majority of the lawsuits against pathology labs
involve some aspect of human error resulting from manual tasks in
labeling or data entry.  In addition to being able to market my lab as
patient safety focused, we have eliminated a major source of potential
lawsuits.  It's hard to put a price tag on what that saves other than to
say that the costs are sometimes much more than the dollar figures paid
out. 


Steve

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Akemi
Allison
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:01 PM
To: Walter Benton
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond and
Cassettelabelers to Co-Path

Hi Walter and Histo-subscribers,

Ist I want to thank Walter for his quick reply.  I appreciate your
answer!  2nd, I appreciate any and all replies, but does anyone have an
article that addresses issues that can occur such as:

Efficiency
Omitting Duplication of Tests ordered: Additional Slides, Special
Stains, IHC, FISH, CISH, Cost effectiveness due to omission of errors
Patient Safety

Thanks

Akemi Allison BS, HT (ASCP) HTL
Director
Phoenix Lab Consulting
Tele: 408.335.9994
E-Mail: akemiat3...@yahoo.com

On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Walter Benton wrote:

 Efficiency
 Patient Safety
 Orders for the Bond come directly from the LIS and can not be 
 misunderstood due to poor handwriting, since they are interfaced with 
 the LIS.


 Walter Benton HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Histology Supervisor
 Chesapeake Urology Associates
 806 Landmark Drive, Suite 126
 (All Deliveries to Suite 127)
 Glen Burnie, MD 21061
 443-471-5850 (Direct)
 410-768-5961 (Lab)
 410-768-5965 (Fax)
 wben...@cua.md
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet- 
 boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Akemi Allison  
 [akemiat3...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:33 PM
 To: Histonet
 Subject: [Histonet] interfacing the IHC bond and Cassette labelers  
 to Co-Path

 Hi out there in Histo Land!

 I would like your assistance in answering a question that was
 proposed by a friend who is not a histonet member.  I don't have the
 answer, but know that one of you would.  Below is the question:

 Could you help me justify the importance of interfacing our IHC bond
 and 

[Histonet] eosin in processor

2010-10-22 Thread Shea's
This is the best kept secretFor those who have never tried this, you don't 
know what you are missing in the ease of embedding and cutting.

We have been adding alcoholic eosin (about 10cc each) to the 1st  2nd 100% 
alcohols, leaving the last 100% pure (of course there is carry over during the 
week), then we dump the first and rotate the other 2 each week. The one that we 
now moved into position #2 will get 10cc eosin). 

We send our IHC  FISH  to a HUGE reference lab. I specifically asked about 
this interfering and the technical rep said that it is not a problem esp they 
see a lot of it and they know to avoid non specific perimeter staining (the 
Pathologists know how to read around this because many labs are using Eosin in 
the processors).

J
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RE: [Histonet] Cheap slide scanner for rat brains?

2010-10-22 Thread Liz Chlipala
Caroline

The older models of the Nikon scanner for kodachromes had an attachment that 
would scan glass slides, I'm not sure about the new ones but we had one back in 
the late 90's early 2000's that would hold a slide and we could scan that.  You 
could also take some low mag images on a microscope with a camera and them 
merge the images in adobe elements.  It will work but the method can be a bit 
crude and you have to watch your illumination through the entire process.  I 
have even used a regular digital camera and taken images of the glass slide, 
that worked too.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, Colorado 80308
office (303) 682-3949 
fax (303) 682-9060
www.premierlab.com
 
 
Ship to Address:
1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, Colorado 80504

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Caroline Bass
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:50 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Cheap slide scanner for rat brains?

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have a good way to get low magnification images from slides? I
have some DAB stained rat coronal sections that I would like to digitize.
Basically, I want to have a picture of the entire section. It doesn¹t have
to be high resolution, just enough to make out the basic structures. Can
someone recommend a way to do this? I¹ve used a flat bed scanner in the
past, and I know some folks use an actual film slide scanner. What I¹m
interested in are tips for finding a solution, particularly what to avoid,
and model numbers that people have used. I don¹t want to keep buying
scanners until I found one that works.

And obviously I¹d like to keep the expenses to a minimum.

Finally, has anyone tried this scanner? It¹s a little pricey for me, but I
do like the idea behind it, although I wonder if it¹s just one of their
stock scanners that they have repainted, added an adapter and jacked up the
price for. It looks identical to other scanners that they sell for $300.

http://www.meyerinst.com/html/oem/pse4/

 
Thanks,

Caroline
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Re: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond andCassettelabelers to Co-Path

2010-10-22 Thread Victor Tobias

 Toni,

We will be going live with the Bond shortly and will have the same 
workflow with a different LIS. Our pathologists have been ordering their 
own tests for years so there is no impact, except to save time in the 
Immuno Lab.


Victor

Victor Tobias
Clinical Applications Analyst
University of Washington Medical Center
Dept of Pathology Room BB220
1959 NE Pacific
Seattle, WA 98195
vic...@pathology.washington.edu
206-598-2792
206-598-7659 Fax
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On 10/22/2010 10:56 AM, Rathborne, Toni wrote:

I'd be interested in knowing how this has impacted your pathologists. Were they 
resistant at first? The extra time inputting requests would now fall on them.  
And there is still a chance of keystroke errors with pathologist entry.
I'm not disagreeing with the comments you made, only wondering since you were 
able to save .7 FTE, where the .7 pathologist came from. Or is it the interface 
itself that saves the time, and not who enters it?
Also, did you have the slide printers before the LEAN process was implemented? 
or was it done because of LEAN and is part of the FTE savings?
I'm very interested in this process, but know the types of questions I'll need 
to have answers for. We're a Cerner facility, so some things will be different 
but the principal will be the same.

Toni

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]on Behalf Of Feher,
Stephen
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:32 PM
To: Akemi Allison; Walter Benton
Cc: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond
andCassettelabelers to Co-Path


We have interfaced our Bonds with Soft Path LIS system.  My
justification for this started with using it for LEAN processes in that
the orders for IHC went directly from the Pathologist to the Bond and
eliminated the need for my techs to have to input individual orders for
IHC by hand.  Since we have set up our slide labelers to be recognized
as just another printer as far as the LIS is concerned, we do not use
paper labels at all but have 2d barcodes printed directly on our slides.
When an order is put in by the pathologist for IHC, my techs can see the
order, cut the section and print the slide with the correct bar code.
Bond recognizes the barcode and initializes the tests that have been
ordered and transferred from the pathologist.

This has accomplished the following:

No tech time lost in printing labels for slides to go on the bond.  No
ambiguity or lost IHC orders due to hand writing orders by the
pathologist.  No chance of keystroke errors on the part of my IHC tech
while putting manual orders into the Bond.  In addition to eliminating
hand writing and manual keystrokes, which are distinct patient safety
issue, I have calculated that having the interface has saved me
approximately 0.7 FTE.  Instead of having to hire extra staff to cover
increased workloads or wasting existing staff on extraneous tasks (hand
labeling, manually entering orders, etc), I can utilize them in other
areas.

The patient safety aspect of eliminating extra tasks involving manual
data entry is huge.  A majority of the lawsuits against pathology labs
involve some aspect of human error resulting from manual tasks in
labeling or data entry.  In addition to being able to market my lab as
patient safety focused, we have eliminated a major source of potential
lawsuits.  It's hard to put a price tag on what that saves other than to
say that the costs are sometimes much more than the dollar figures paid
out.


Steve

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Akemi
Allison
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:01 PM
To: Walter Benton
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Clarification-interfacing the IHC bond and
Cassettelabelers to Co-Path

Hi Walter and Histo-subscribers,

Ist I want to thank Walter for his quick reply.  I appreciate your
answer!  2nd, I appreciate any and all replies, but does anyone have an
article that addresses issues that can occur such as:

Efficiency
Omitting Duplication of Tests ordered: Additional Slides, Special
Stains, IHC, FISH, CISH, Cost effectiveness due to omission of errors
Patient Safety

Thanks

Akemi Allison BS, HT (ASCP) HTL
Director
Phoenix Lab Consulting
Tele: 408.335.9994
E-Mail: akemiat3...@yahoo.com

On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Walter Benton wrote:


Efficiency
Patient Safety
Orders for the 

RE: [Histonet] Cheap slide scanner for rat brains?

2010-10-22 Thread sgoebel
Do you have a dissecting scope you could use?  You can grab one with a
pretty low resolution camera for about $800.  If you need more details
let me know.

Sarah Goebel, B.A., HT (ASCP)

Histotechnician


XBiotech USA Inc.

8201 East Riverside Dr. Bldg 4 Suite 100

Austin, Texas  78744

(512)386-2907




 Original Message 
Subject: [Histonet] Cheap slide scanner for rat brains?
From: Caroline Bass cb...@wfubmc.edu
Date: Fri, October 22, 2010 10:50 am
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have a good way to get low magnification images from slides?
I
have some DAB stained rat coronal sections that I would like to
digitize.
Basically, I want to have a picture of the entire section. It doesn¹t
have
to be high resolution, just enough to make out the basic structures. Can
someone recommend a way to do this? I¹ve used a flat bed scanner in the
past, and I know some folks use an actual film slide scanner. What I¹m
interested in are tips for finding a solution, particularly what to
avoid,
and model numbers that people have used. I don¹t want to keep buying
scanners until I found one that works.

And obviously I¹d like to keep the expenses to a minimum.

Finally, has anyone tried this scanner? It¹s a little pricey for me,
but I
do like the idea behind it, although I wonder if it¹s just one of their
stock scanners that they have repainted, added an adapter and jacked up
the
price for. It looks identical to other scanners that they sell for $300.

http://www.meyerinst.com/html/oem/pse4/

 
Thanks,

Caroline
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[Histonet] formalin containers

2010-10-22 Thread Tench, Bill
We haven't heard anything about this (and we were inspected at the end
of July). If you have any additional information, please post it.
It is a little hard to image a locking Lid on a disposable plastic
container of reasonable cost that is large enough to hold a a total
colon resection or large mastectomy.
 
Bill Tench
Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
Chief, Cytology Services
Palomar Medical Center
555 E. Valley Parkway
Escondido, California  92025
bill.te...@pph.org
Voice: 760- 739-3037
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RE: [Histonet] Block release

2010-10-22 Thread Harrison, Sandra C.
Here's what the recently revised CAP checklist says about releasing blocks; 
scroll down to Note 2:

**REVISED** 06/17/2010
ANP.12500 Record Retention Phase II
Surgical pathology records and materials are retained for an appropriate period.
NOTE 1: Minimum requirements for surgical pathology, providing these are not 
less stringent than
state and federal regulations, are:
1. Accession log records - 2 years
2. Wet tissue (stock bottle) - 2 weeks after final report
3. Paraffin blocks - 10 years (subject to Note 2, below)
4. Glass slides (including control slides) and reports - 10 years (slides must 
remain
readable for this period)
5. Surgical pathology reports - 10 years (see Notes 3 and 4, below)
6. Fluorochrome-stained slides - at the discretion of the laboratory director
7. Fine needle aspiration slides - 10 years
8. Images of FISH studies - 10 years (see Note 5, below)
There must be a documented policy for protecting and preserving the integrity 
and retrieval of
surgical pathology materials and records.The retention period should be 
extended, when appropriate,
to provide documentation for adequate quality control and medical care.

NOTE 2: Regarding release of blocks for research purposes: Federal regulations 
require that a
laboratory retain paraffin blocks for two years. The CLA requires, however, 
that they must be kept
for at least 10 years. Nevertheless, blocks may be released for research 
purposes after the two-year
regulatory requirement if all of the following criteria are met:
1. The written consent of the patient is obtained. For laboratories subject to 
U.S.
regulations, the consent must include formal authorization in accordance with 
the
requirements of HIPAA, if identifiable patient information is released.
2. The laboratory retains sufficient blocks to support the diagnosis for the 
full 10-year
period.
3. Provision is made for retrieval by the laboratory of any blocks or material 
that remain
after use in research, if the blocks or material are needed for diagnostic, 
legal, or other
legitimate purposes.
4. The laboratory meets other relevant requirements including but not limited 
to the
requirements of the institution, the directives of any applicable institutional 
review board
(IRB) or similar entity; and state and local laws and regulations.
NOTE 3: Pathology reports may be retained in either paper or electronic format. 
If retained in
electronic format alone, however, the electronic reports must include a secure 
pathologist electronic
signature. Images of paper reports--such as microfiche or PDF files--are 
acceptable.
NOTE 4: Reports of outside consultations performed on cases from the laboratory 
(whether or not
such consultation was requested by the laboratory) must be retained for 10 
years after the date on
which the original report was issued.
NOTE 5: There is no retention requirement for images when the source slides 
remain readable for
the required 10-year retention period. The 10-year retention requirement 
applies to images of slide
preparations that are not readable for the 10-year period (e.g. FISH studies).
22 of 44
VA Med Ctr - Minneapolis
Path  Lab Med Service 113
Anatomic Pathology Checklist 06.17.2010
Evidence of Compliance:
✓ Written record and specimen retention policy(ies)

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bernice 
Frederick
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:04 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Block release

Everyone,

I have been asked to post a query as to what your institution does in terms
of releasing blocks for oncology clinical trials. Please respond as it is
important to us as we receive a lot of those blocks here at Northwestern
(policies, procedures, alternative submissions etc) If you are in Australia,
Ireland, Canada, Puerto Rico or Peru please also answer (though I sort of
know already) as we do get blocks from you also.

Thanks

Bernice

 

 

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)

Northwestern University

Pathology Core Facility

ECOGPCO-RL 

710 N Fairbanks Court

Olson 8-421

Chicago,IL 60611

312-503-3723

 

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[Histonet] Coverslip removal question

2010-10-22 Thread Lewis, Patrick
Hi Histonetters

 

When I soak my slides in xylene to remove the coverslip, do I then need
to rehydrate them by washing them in 100% etoh,95% etoh,70% etoh, and
then H20.

And then drying and re applying permount?

 

Or can I go straight from xylene to drying to re-coversliping with
permount?

 

 

 

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Research Associate II-Bench| Infections and Prematurity

Seattle Children's Research Institute

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Re: [Histonet] Coverslip removal question

2010-10-22 Thread Rene J Buesa
No, once you have removed the coverslip, just wash the section thoroughly in 
xylene to remove any thick remnant of the old permount, and reapply permount 
and cover.
René J.

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From: Lewis, Patrick patrick.le...@seattlechildrens.org
Subject: [Histonet] Coverslip removal question
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 3:55 PM


Hi Histonetters



When I soak my slides in xylene to remove the coverslip, do I then need
to rehydrate them by washing them in 100% etoh,95% etoh,70% etoh, and
then H20.

And then drying and re applying permount?



Or can I go straight from xylene to drying to re-coversliping with
permount?







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Seattle Children's Research Institute

206-884-1115  OFFICE 

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[Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution

2010-10-22 Thread Lewis, Patrick
Hi guys,

 

Can anyone recommend a good decal solution.  I have some bone marrow and
trachea tissues for paraffin sectioning and I want to decal them. 

Thanks

Patrick

 

 

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Seattle Children's Research Institute

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RE: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution

2010-10-22 Thread Liz Chlipala
I like 5 to 10% formic acid

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, Colorado 80308
office (303) 682-3949 
fax (303) 682-9060
www.premierlab.com
 
 
Ship to Address:
1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
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Patrick
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 2:06 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution

Hi guys,

 

Can anyone recommend a good decal solution.  I have some bone marrow and
trachea tissues for paraffin sectioning and I want to decal them. 

Thanks

Patrick

 

 

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Research Associate II-Bench| Infections and Prematurity

Seattle Children's Research Institute

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[Histonet] Lab Manager and other Histology Jobs

2010-10-22 Thread K.C. Carpenter

I am one of the founders of a healthcare recruiting firm.  I help Lab 
Professionals find permanent employment and I wanted to see if you or anyone 
you know is interested in exploring other career opportunities?  We are 
completely free of charge to candidates and and we work on laboratory openings 
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[Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

2010-10-22 Thread caymanfl...@gmail.com
We are in need of some advice regarding rapid tissue processors.  Models we
are considering:

Sakura Xpress
Leica Peloris
Thermo STP 420

It seems none of these models are perfect in every respect.  I'm interested
in anyone's opinions of these processors and your experience with them.

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Re: [Histonet] eosin in processor

2010-10-22 Thread Patrick Laurie
We don't, Leica recommends that you don't.  We have our grossing group
squirt a 0.1% Basic Fuchsin on the small translucent or white specimens.  It
leaves it light pink like the eosin.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rathborne, Toni 
trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com wrote:

 Does anyone use eosin in their Peloris?

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 This is the best kept secretFor those who have never tried this, you
 don't know what you are missing in the ease of embedding and cutting.

 We have been adding alcoholic eosin (about 10cc each) to the 1st  2nd 100%
 alcohols, leaving the last 100% pure (of course there is carry over during
 the week), then we dump the first and rotate the other 2 each week. The one
 that we now moved into position #2 will get 10cc eosin).

 We send our IHC  FISH  to a HUGE reference lab. I specifically asked about
 this interfering and the technical rep said that it is not a problem esp
 they see a lot of it and they know to avoid non specific perimeter staining
 (the Pathologists know how to read around this because many labs are using
 Eosin in the processors).

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[Histonet] decal solution help

2010-10-22 Thread Lewis, Patrick
Dear Histonetters

 

Yes I should have said, I'll be doing IHC for viral proteins with both
polyclonal (rabbit) and monoclonal (Rat/Mouse) primary antibodies and
HRP-labeled secondary antibodies with DAKO AEC Substrate.

 

 

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RE: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution

2010-10-22 Thread sgoebel
Best decal in the world...Formical-4.  It has formalin in it so it fixes
and decals at the same time.  You can get plain Jane decal too.  The
company is called decal.  Here is the website.  I think you can also get
it from Fisher?

http://www.decal-bone.com/



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Subject: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution
From: Lewis, Patrick patrick.le...@seattlechildrens.org
Date: Fri, October 22, 2010 1:06 pm
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Hi guys,

 

Can anyone recommend a good decal solution. I have some bone marrow and
trachea tissues for paraffin sectioning and I want to decal them. 

Thanks

Patrick

 

 

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Re: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution

2010-10-22 Thread Rene J Buesa
For the specimens you mention use EDTA pH7
René J.

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Subject: [Histonet] Recommendations for decal solution
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 4:06 PM


Hi guys,



Can anyone recommend a good decal solution.  I have some bone marrow and
trachea tissues for paraffin sectioning and I want to decal them. 

Thanks

Patrick





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RE: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

2010-10-22 Thread Feher, Stephen
We are using the Peloris with a 2 hr, 4 hr and 8 hr protocol.  We run 2
hour protocols throughout the day with an average of 4-5 runs per day
depending on specimen volume.  We really like this processor.  We have
had them for 10 months now, are using factory protocols and have not had
any specimens that have been either under or over processed.  The techs
and the pathologists are very pleased with it. 


Steve

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

We are in need of some advice regarding rapid tissue processors.  Models
we are considering:

Sakura Xpress
Leica Peloris
Thermo STP 420

It seems none of these models are perfect in every respect.  I'm
interested in anyone's opinions of these processors and your experience
with them.

All input is appreciated!
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RE: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

2010-10-22 Thread Jesus Ellin
How are you meeting the hours of fixation requirement for Breast?  With
2 and 4 and 8 hours,, But recently there are articles calling for Her 2
to be done on GI cases.  Just want to know you insight on this?

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We are using the Peloris with a 2 hr, 4 hr and 8 hr protocol.  We run 2
hour protocols throughout the day with an average of 4-5 runs per day
depending on specimen volume.  We really like this processor.  We have
had them for 10 months now, are using factory protocols and have not had
any specimens that have been either under or over processed.  The techs
and the pathologists are very pleased with it. 


Steve

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Subject: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

We are in need of some advice regarding rapid tissue processors.  Models
we are considering:

Sakura Xpress
Leica Peloris
Thermo STP 420

It seems none of these models are perfect in every respect.  I'm
interested in anyone's opinions of these processors and your experience
with them.

All input is appreciated!
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[Histonet] Aqua-Mount?

2010-10-22 Thread Monfils, Paul
Is Aqua-Mount aqueous mounting medium still available?  If so, who sells
it?  If not, recommendations for a similar product?

 

Thanks

 

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[Histonet] RE: Aqua-Mount?

2010-10-22 Thread McMahon, Loralee A
We use an aqueous mounting media from Diagnostic Biosystems.  Available in two 
sizes.   Same as the aqua mount

Loralee McMahon, HTL (ASCP)
Immunohistochemistry Supervisor
Strong Memorial Hospital
Department of Surgical Pathology
(585) 275-7210

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Is Aqua-Mount aqueous mounting medium still available?  If so, who sells
it?  If not, recommendations for a similar product?



Thanks



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RE: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice

2010-10-22 Thread WILLIAM DESALVO

There are so many good to great processors on the market, but all have their 
plus and minus issues. You really have to decide what your two or three most 
important issues will be and then rank them. With the trend in becoming more 
efficient/cost effective, reducing TAT and LEAN process improvement, I suggest 
you look to improve your process to match these trends and you will be lead to 
rapid tissue processing in a LEAN way. Couple the previously mentioned 
trends/issues with versatility of processing with your routine formalin fixed 
samples with molecular fixed samples on the same instrument, I suggest the 
Sakura Xpress (X50 or X120) rapid processors.
 
These instruments provide continuous loading, small batch and require a small 
volume of reagent for processing and then discard. The instruments do have a 
required reagent kit and there is a variable pre-processing protocol, depending 
on the tissue type and fat content. Using the reagent kit does allow for cost 
savings over conventional processing and I find the pre-processing allows for 
better precision processing techniques and protocols, we have never over 
processed tissues. Another great advantage is the increased velocity of the 
workflow as the instruments are continuous load (no cleaning cycle between 
batches) and small batch (1 to 40 cassettes). Loading 1 or 2 cassettes when a 
STAT or RUSH cases arrives and completes fixation does not interrupt the 
process or require special handling. An important factor to consider is that 
continuous load processing does assist in workload leveling, which can assist 
in reducing employee stress, increase productivity and error reduction. All 
these things lead directly to reduced TAT. Add the often overlooked advantage 
of removing Xylene from your tissue processing, and again, I suggest you 
consider the Xpress.
 
I was an early adopter (5+ yrs use) and continue to use the X120 (2 units). I 
have not experienced any instrument performance or maintenance issues. I have 
had three software upgrades and the instruments had to go down for several 
hours to install the upgrade. The X120 and now the X50 have two programming 
options 1+ hour or 2+ hour processing. The most LEAN factor is that after the 
first basket of up to 40 cassettes, the next one comes off 20 or 40 minutes 
later and you can continuously load. There is no other instrument that can 
allow you to process in as small as batch or provide the continuous delivery of 
cassettes. You can do rapid processing with all of the instruments you are 
considering, but conventional, one reaction chamber instruments will limit the 
number of times the instrument can be run each day and that increases the batch 
size.
 
Rapid processing does demand change in the way your lab does it's work. The 
first is standardization of gross dissection to 3 mm thickness. It does not 
matter the instrument, if you want to truly move into rapid processing, then 
you have to standardize your process in the gross room. The process of 
retraining and standardizing your gross room is well worth the effort. Another 
issue that you have to fully consider is how will specific fixation times 
affect your workflow. We now have specific guidelines for ER/PgR; Her2 and if 
you follow the NCI protocols for cancer tumors, you have to record your actual 
fixation times. Trying to manage all the different fixation times becomes 
difficult and will slow down your process. If you use your tissue processor to 
complete fixation, the processor will force you into larger batches. When you 
have to wait for tissues to complete fixation before starting your processing 
program, you also limit the number of times the processor can be run in a day. 
I find that separating fixation from processing is the best approach. You 
process specimens only when the optimal fixation time has been completed. Stop 
and consider all the different tissue types, size, fat content and required 
protocols, and you will see the value of a rapid processor that has small batch 
and continuous load capabilities. Meet all your fixation requirements and needs 
and only use the tissue processor for processing, not fixation. This is very 
LEAN concept and a concept that I believe you will need to embrace.

Whenever you have the opportunity to change your process, I always suggest you 
look to improve the process, use the latest process improvement techniques and 
select an instrument that will assist in the change and prepare you for future 
change. My philosophy is we cannot continue to do tomorrow what we do today and 
expect a different outcome or result. Just my thoughts and experience, I hope 
this will help you. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

William DeSalvo, B.S., HTL(ASCP)
 

 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:16:50 -0400
 From: caymanfl...@gmail.com
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Tissue Processor Advice
 
 We are in need of some advice regarding rapid tissue