[Histonet] Help with OCT problem

2011-02-10 Thread Reynolds,Donna M
Has anyone ever experienced OCT blocks that cut like they are soft. I have 
turned the cyrostat down 10 degrees lower than usual and they are still soft. 
Really weird part is that I have 20 blocks in this group and some are soft and 
others are just fine. Tried changing angle, new blade nothing helps. When I 
finally manage to get a decent section and pick it up on the slide, the OCT 
around the tissue want even pick up smooth it wrinkles really bad.
I tried just a block of OCT that I froze on a chuck and it cut great.  I am 
clueless as to what is going on.
Samples were frozen by someone else and brought to me to be cut.
Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston TX
Research lab
713-192-8106.


Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
Dept. Cancer Biology, SRB 1.660
713-792-8106

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RE: [Histonet] Help with OCT problem

2011-02-10 Thread Liz Chlipala
Donna

I have seen soft or rather sticky OCT samples in the past.  If you
freeze in isopentane and don't let the isopentane evaporate off the
samples prior to wrapping the sample in foil, that excess isopentane
changes the OCT, it makes it sticky.

Liz

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Subject: [Histonet] Help with OCT problem

Has anyone ever experienced OCT blocks that cut like they are soft. I
have turned the cyrostat down 10 degrees lower than usual and they are
still soft. Really weird part is that I have 20 blocks in this group and
some are soft and others are just fine. Tried changing angle, new blade
nothing helps. When I finally manage to get a decent section and pick it
up on the slide, the OCT around the tissue want even pick up smooth it
wrinkles really bad.
I tried just a block of OCT that I froze on a chuck and it cut great.  I
am clueless as to what is going on.
Samples were frozen by someone else and brought to me to be cut.
Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston TX
Research lab
713-192-8106.


Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
Dept. Cancer Biology, SRB 1.660
713-792-8106

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Re: [Histonet] Help with OCT problem

2011-02-10 Thread Patrick Laurie
Donna,
I would also check to make sure that the tissue wasn't held in an
something with a lot of alcohol, like RNA later.  I found out first
hand that it doesn't work well.  Good luck

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Reynolds,Donna M
dreyn...@mdanderson.org wrote:
 Has anyone ever experienced OCT blocks that cut like they are soft. I have 
 turned the cyrostat down 10 degrees lower than usual and they are still soft. 
 Really weird part is that I have 20 blocks in this group and some are soft 
 and others are just fine. Tried changing angle, new blade nothing helps. When 
 I finally manage to get a decent section and pick it up on the slide, the OCT 
 around the tissue want even pick up smooth it wrinkles really bad.
 I tried just a block of OCT that I froze on a chuck and it cut great.  I am 
 clueless as to what is going on.
 Samples were frozen by someone else and brought to me to be cut.
 Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
 M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston TX
 Research lab
 713-192-8106.


 Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
 Dept. Cancer Biology, SRB 1.660
 713-792-8106

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Re: [Histonet] Help with OCT problem

2011-02-10 Thread Merced M Leiker
I agree with previous responders to this query, as I've gotten alcohol on 
my blocks and since alcohol doesn't freeze real well it makes a sticky mess 
with the OCT. The affected OCT can be scraped off with a razor blade. 
Hopefully the tissue itself did not come in contact with alcohol prior to 
embedding.


Regards,
Merced

--On Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:51 PM -0800 Patrick Laurie 
foreig...@gmail.com wrote:



Donna,
I would also check to make sure that the tissue wasn't held in an
something with a lot of alcohol, like RNA later.  I found out first
hand that it doesn't work well.  Good luck

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Reynolds,Donna M
dreyn...@mdanderson.org wrote:

Has anyone ever experienced OCT blocks that cut like they are soft. I
have turned the cyrostat down 10 degrees lower than usual and they are
still soft. Really weird part is that I have 20 blocks in this group and
some are soft and others are just fine. Tried changing angle, new blade
nothing helps. When I finally manage to get a decent section and pick it
up on the slide, the OCT around the tissue want even pick up smooth it
wrinkles really bad. I tried just a block of OCT that I froze on a chuck
and it cut great.  I am clueless as to what is going on. Samples were
frozen by someone else and brought to me to be cut. Donna Reynolds Core
IHC Lab
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston TX
Research lab
713-192-8106.


Donna Reynolds Core IHC Lab
Dept. Cancer Biology, SRB 1.660
713-792-8106

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RE: [Histonet] Help with OCT problem

2011-02-10 Thread Ingles Claire
Same with ETOH. We wipe our surfaces down with it to clean them so no cross 
contamination as we freeze our skin here on the metal side areas of our 
cryostats. If the alcohol hasn't been wiped dry or evaporated we have that 
problem too.
Claire



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Donna

I have seen soft or rather sticky OCT samples in the past.  If you
freeze in isopentane and don't let the isopentane evaporate off the
samples prior to wrapping the sample in foil, that excess isopentane
changes the OCT, it makes it sticky.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, Colorado 80308
office (303) 682-3949
fax (303) 682-9060
www.premierlab.com





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