Re: [normal] Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
El mar, 02-08-2005 a las 17:40, Ryan Lewellen escribió: > A suggestion for you nodes; Place them at the very most, 256 units > apart. What I like to do when I make my maps is to just put 1 node in > the top left corner or something, and then copy. Then do paste special, > and then make like 20 copies or something with the x offset set to 256 > (makes 20 copies to the right in the top view.) Then select all of those > nodes, then copy, then paste special, then set y to -256, so it makes 20 > copies going down. Then select all of those nodes in your 20x20 grid and > then copy them and then paste-special 1 layer at z with 128 units, but > then change all the nodes to ai_node_air, and then copy them all at 128 > units apart on the z level. > > Hope this helps you :) Sound like something a computer can do automatically more efficient. I mean, with a program. Can a mod clone a "master ai_node_air" avoiding solids/lava/water automatically? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
Hi Thanks man, I got it going last night with nodes at about 1024 units apart, group selected in 4's and copied them all over, using much less nodes now, ai_show_connect and others proved very useful in building and debugging the node network. Cheers about the portal, the guy who designed and textured it has some great talent, shame my testmap does not do it any justice. Thanks for the tips! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Lewellen Sent: 02 August 2005 16:41 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem A suggestion for you nodes; Place them at the very most, 256 units apart. What I like to do when I make my maps is to just put 1 node in the top left corner or something, and then copy. Then do paste special, and then make like 20 copies or something with the x offset set to 256 (makes 20 copies to the right in the top view.) Then select all of those nodes, then copy, then paste special, then set y to -256, so it makes 20 copies going down. Then select all of those nodes in your 20x20 grid and then copy them and then paste-special 1 layer at z with 128 units, but then change all the nodes to ai_node_air, and then copy them all at 128 units apart on the z level. Hope this helps you :) You might also want to select all your ai nodes and then put them into a visgroup so you can hide them when you need to do brushwork. That portal thing in your corner over there looks awesome :) This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by return email if you are not the intended recipient and delete this message. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of FusionPeople Ltd. FusionPeople Ltd may monitor outgoing and incoming emails and other telecommunications on its email and telecommunication systems. === This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs, The service does not scan any password protected or encrypted attachments. FusionPeople Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
A suggestion for you nodes; Place them at the very most, 256 units apart. What I like to do when I make my maps is to just put 1 node in the top left corner or something, and then copy. Then do paste special, and then make like 20 copies or something with the x offset set to 256 (makes 20 copies to the right in the top view.) Then select all of those nodes, then copy, then paste special, then set y to -256, so it makes 20 copies going down. Then select all of those nodes in your 20x20 grid and then copy them and then paste-special 1 layer at z with 128 units, but then change all the nodes to ai_node_air, and then copy them all at 128 units apart on the z level. Hope this helps you :) You might also want to select all your ai nodes and then put them into a visgroup so you can hide them when you need to do brushwork. That portal thing in your corner over there looks awesome :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Some useful wiki pages: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Ai_show_connect http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Node_graph http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Ai_moveprobe_debug http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Ai_debug_nav The last two need a bit of programmer experience with the nav system, but it sounds like you've got that. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Warwick Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:12 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem Cheers, ai_show_connect sounds helpful, will check that out tonight. * It's hard to tell how far apart they are without anything to give a sense of scale. Ah, that would make sense. * Are you sure you shouldn't be using ground nodes? My NPC uses the helicopter flight model, so I am using air nodes, hope this is correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Edwards Sent: 01 August 2005 16:58 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem Bad form to use a bullet list but I can't think of a better way. * It's hard to tell how far apart they are without anything to give a sense of scale. * The fastest way to see if it's your code that is the problem is loading the map in HL2 and spawning something. * Use ai_show_connect to see the node graph. If it isn't joined up the nodes are the problem, while if the links are there it's the NPCs * Are you sure you shouldn't be using ground nodes? Ian Warwick wrote: >Hi, I have implemented a custom schedule with exactly the same tasks as >SCHED_FORCED_GO. > >The only problem is when my NPC builds a path, it fails unless I put an >extreme amount of nodes in the map. > >I have no idea why this is happenining, here is an image of a path my >NPC has generated, it seems a bit over the top to me, but I had to do >this in order for the NPC to actually find a path in the first place. > >http://www.thewakening.com/pathfinding.jpg > >Any idea where I can look to make NPC's connect nodes that are further >apart than this? This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by return email if you are not the intended recipient and delete this message. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of FusionPeople Ltd. FusionPeople Ltd may monitor outgoing and incoming emails and other telecommunications on its email and telecommunication systems. === This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs, The service does not scan any password protected or encrypted attachments. FusionPeople Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
Cheers, ai_show_connect sounds helpful, will check that out tonight. * It's hard to tell how far apart they are without anything to give a sense of scale. Ah, that would make sense. * Are you sure you shouldn't be using ground nodes? My NPC uses the helicopter flight model, so I am using air nodes, hope this is correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Edwards Sent: 01 August 2005 16:58 To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem Bad form to use a bullet list but I can't think of a better way. * It's hard to tell how far apart they are without anything to give a sense of scale. * The fastest way to see if it's your code that is the problem is loading the map in HL2 and spawning something. * Use ai_show_connect to see the node graph. If it isn't joined up the nodes are the problem, while if the links are there it's the NPCs * Are you sure you shouldn't be using ground nodes? Ian Warwick wrote: >Hi, I have implemented a custom schedule with exactly the same tasks as >SCHED_FORCED_GO. > >The only problem is when my NPC builds a path, it fails unless I put an >extreme amount of nodes in the map. > >I have no idea why this is happenining, here is an image of a path my >NPC has generated, it seems a bit over the top to me, but I had to do >this in order for the NPC to actually find a path in the first place. > >http://www.thewakening.com/pathfinding.jpg > >Any idea where I can look to make NPC's connect nodes that are further >apart than this? This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by return email if you are not the intended recipient and delete this message. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of FusionPeople Ltd. FusionPeople Ltd may monitor outgoing and incoming emails and other telecommunications on its email and telecommunication systems. === This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs, The service does not scan any password protected or encrypted attachments. FusionPeople Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] AI Pathfinding problem
Bad form to use a bullet list but I can't think of a better way. * It's hard to tell how far apart they are without anything to give a sense of scale. * The fastest way to see if it's your code that is the problem is loading the map in HL2 and spawning something. * Use ai_show_connect to see the node graph. If it isn't joined up the nodes are the problem, while if the links are there it's the NPCs * Are you sure you shouldn't be using ground nodes? Ian Warwick wrote: Hi, I have implemented a custom schedule with exactly the same tasks as SCHED_FORCED_GO. The only problem is when my NPC builds a path, it fails unless I put an extreme amount of nodes in the map. I have no idea why this is happenining, here is an image of a path my NPC has generated, it seems a bit over the top to me, but I had to do this in order for the NPC to actually find a path in the first place. http://www.thewakening.com/pathfinding.jpg Any idea where I can look to make NPC's connect nodes that are further apart than this? Ian Warwick Software Engineer Tel: 023 8062 6555 Fax: 023 8062 6556 Web: http://www.fusionpeople.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by return email if you are not the intended recipient and delete this message. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of FusionPeople Ltd. FusionPeople Ltd may monitor outgoing and incoming emails and other telecommunications on its email and telecommunication systems. === This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs, The service does not scan any password protected or encrypted attachments. FusionPeople Ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders __ NOD32 1.1184 (20050801) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
