RE: [hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4470 - 7 msgs

[Jason O. Washburn]

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>   1. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
>   so (David Williams)
>   2. RE: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so
(Alfred
> Reynolds)
>   3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
>   so (David Williams)
>   4. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
>   so (David Williams)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:48:54 +
> From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
> so
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
for
> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
>
> Ook wrote:
>
>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
>> servers?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
>> to do
>> so
>>
>>
>>> ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
valve
>>> has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
>>> someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the
hlstats
>>> website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed
in
>>> the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
>>> vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue
a
>>> vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban
was
>>> deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
>>> swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
>>>
>>> Ook wrote:
>>>
 If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
 hold
 your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
 reason,
 your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
 However,
 this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


 - Original Message -
 From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told
vac
 to do
 so


> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban
was
> only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times
vac
> was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
> they are worse than scum so he is innocent
>
> Ook wrote:
>
>> hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
>> probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
falsely
>> banned
>> yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to
go
>> and buy
>> another key.
>>
>> Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
>> Hlstatsx
>> can
>> ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
>> that can
>> control this.
>>
>> http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
>> Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to
>> do so
>>
>>
>>> on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
>>> it. but
>>> now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN
>>> MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you woul

Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

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Sweet - I'm going to try it out. Would it work with any games on any engine?

On 3/20/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Yes
>
> On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > does it work with the client too ;)???
> >
> > Whisper wrote:
> >
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >It works for both HLDS & SRCDS as its ia and OS level effect not
> > application
> > >level.
> > >
> > >On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>--
> > >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >>Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just  assumed
> > he
> > >>was talking about running an HL1 mod  of some sort.im not even
> sure
> > if
> > >>that works for srcds or not.  But if it does then running media player
> > >>would
> > >>take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
> > >>when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.
> > >>
> > >>---Original Message---
> > >>
> > >>From: David Williams
> > >>Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
> > >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> > >>
> > >>i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
> > >>fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
> > >>Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
> > >>
> > >>kyle wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>--
> > >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >>>That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
> > >>>
> > >>>---Original Message---
> > >>>
> > >>>From: Whisper
> > >>>Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
> > >>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >>>sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
> > >>>sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and
> > would
> > >>>nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
> > >>>Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>issues
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a
> > server
> > on.
> > 
> > Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.
> one
> > 32
> > slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> > 
> > Sv_maxrate 12000
> > Sv_minupdaterate 20
> > Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> > tested
> > many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1
> > servers.
> > And ill never run any other settings.
> > i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
> > 
> > 
> > >>enough.
> > >>
> > >>
> > ---Original Message---
> > 
> > From: Graham M.
> > Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> > 
> > Daniel Morris wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> > >
> > >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram,
> 100mbit
> > >connection
> > >
> > >1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> > >1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> > >
> > >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix
> it,
> > >
> > >
> > >>nor
> > >>
> > >>
> > >does restarting the whole box
> > >
> > >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ServerDoc
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >to catch crashes and restarts
> > >
> > >HELP !!
> > >
> > >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they
> run
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > more,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >like 3x servers :@
> > >
> > >i dont get it
> > >--
> > >
> > >___
> > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
> > archives,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > please visit:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100
> > Tick
> > Rate could be something to do with it.
> > 
> > _

Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Whisper]

--
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Yes

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> does it work with the client too ;)???
>
> Whisper wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >It works for both HLDS & SRCDS as its ia and OS level effect not
> application
> >level.
> >
> >On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>--
> >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just  assumed
> he
> >>was talking about running an HL1 mod  of some sort.im not even sure
> if
> >>that works for srcds or not.  But if it does then running media player
> >>would
> >>take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
> >>when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.
> >>
> >>---Original Message---
> >>
> >>From: David Williams
> >>Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
> >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >>
> >>i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
> >>fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
> >>Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
> >>
> >>kyle wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--
> >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>>That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
> >>>
> >>>---Original Message---
> >>>
> >>>From: Whisper
> >>>Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
> >>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>>sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
> >>>sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and
> would
> >>>nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
> >>>Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
> >>>
> >>>
> >>issues
> >>
> >>
> >>>for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a
> server
> on.
> 
> Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one
> 32
> slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> 
> Sv_maxrate 12000
> Sv_minupdaterate 20
> Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> tested
> many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1
> servers.
> And ill never run any other settings.
> i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
> 
> 
> >>enough.
> >>
> >>
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: Graham M.
> Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> 
> Daniel Morris wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> >
> >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
> >connection
> >
> >1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> >1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> >
> >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it,
> >
> >
> >>nor
> >>
> >>
> >does restarting the whole box
> >
> >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ServerDoc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >to catch crashes and restarts
> >
> >HELP !!
> >
> >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
> >
> >
> >
> >
> more,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >like 3x servers :@
> >
> >i dont get it
> >--
> >
> >___
> >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
> archives,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> please visit:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100
> Tick
> Rate could be something to do with it.
> 
> ___
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> >   1. Re: Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
> (kyle)
> >   2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it
> told vac to do so (logs
> > contained) (Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
> >   3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it
> told vac to do
> >   so (logs contained) (David Williams)
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific
> Standard Time)
> > From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core
> 4/5 64
> > Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > lol, someone's been smoking crack.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Stuart Stegall
> > Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core
> 4/5 64
> >
> >  From just a straight performance comparison (not
> from a
> > breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds
> games, there is
> > basically no difference between the two platforms
> (technically I've
> > found that disk operations happen faster on the
> linux hlds, but really
> > it makes no difference except like 1 second on
> REALLY big maps)
> >
> > Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a
> very measurable
> > performance diffference between the two platforms,
> with the Windows
> > server outperforming the Linux server on the same
> hardware with
> > basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks
> that apply to both
> > platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800
> Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
> > Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s
> all running either
> > Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some
> patches related to latency.)
> >
> > kyle wrote:
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running
> fedoracore 4 and i have
> >> never run a more stable server.  i have run
> strictly win2k in the past
> >> and
> >> now that i have run the linux distro ill never go
> back to win2k
> >>
> >> currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32
> slot with amxmodx/metamod
> > and
> >> 1X13 slot private match server with no addons.
> im also running 1x20 slot
> >> HLTV server.
> >> the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot
> server is full.this
> > server
> >> is also Boosted.
> >>
> >> The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at
> 100 is not as good as the
> >> fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way
> to achieve the same hit
> > reg
> >> with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the
> registry.  Be
> >> careful
> >> doing this if your not sure what your doing.
> >> Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win
> OS quantums
> >>
>
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
> >> ---Original Message---
> >>
> >> From: Neil Cumming
> >> Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5
> 64
> >>
> >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> I realise this is Windows list, but im just
> wondering if any admins have
> > any
> >> performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro
> and Fedora Core 4/5
> >> 64bit,
> >> running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS
> and SRCDS. I have a box
> > with
> >> the following specs:
> >>
> >> Windows 2000 Pro.
> >> AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
> >> 1GB RAM.
> >>
> >> I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if
> I would get more
> >> performance and stability if i switched to a
> linux 64bit OS. I cant
> >> afford
> > a
> >> 64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts
> appreciated :)
> >>
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> >>
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[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4475 - 4 msgs

[Pamela Foster & Frank Baxter]

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64 (kyle)
  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
contained) (Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

--
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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
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I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
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  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

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I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:17:15 +1100
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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:17:15 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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Try taking off all addons / mods from your server, re

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4475 - 4 msgs

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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
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  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:17:15 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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Try taking off all addons / mods from your server, re

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4475 - 4 msgs

[Pamela Foster & Frank Baxter]

REMOVE



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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
contained) (Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:17:15 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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Try taking off all addons / mods from your s

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4475 - 4 msgs

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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
contained) (Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

 From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod

and

1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this

server

is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit

reg

with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have

any

performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box

with

the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford

a

64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:17:15 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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Try taking off all addons / mods from your server, re

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4474 - 4 msgs

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  2. Server Choke - Resolving problem / Improving performace (Daniel
Morris)
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:52:49 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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so (logs contained)
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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20
minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:

> Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on
> this
> mystery.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> to do
> so
>
>
>> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
for
>> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
>> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
>> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
>> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
>> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
>>
>> Ook wrote:
>>
>>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
>>> enabled
>>> servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
>>> to do
>>> so
>>>
>>>
 ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
valve
 has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
 someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the
 hlstats
 website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed
 in
 the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
 only
 vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely w

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:24:31 -0600
From: Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

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I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past
and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod
and
1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this
server
is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit
reg
with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be
careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
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Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have
any
performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5
64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box
with
the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant
afford a
64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:35:22 +
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

i know it was a random question really but you guys had any luck with
the logs.

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:


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That database error is coming up because you haven't set it to anything.
That has nothing to do with it, nor is that the logs.

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



k will do as soon as i can. Also i've just noticed that hlstats is
reporting a database error:

*Database Error*

/Server Address:/ localhost
/Server Username:/ client_site

/Error Diagnostic:/
Bad query.

/Server Error:/ (1044) Access denied for user: '[E

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4471 - 5 msgs

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From: "Ook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:32:07 -0800
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

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From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so



that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


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From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban
was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times
vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC,
he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


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From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in
the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subj

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4472 - 4 msgs

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:10:02 +
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20 minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:


Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this ha

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4468 - 7 msgs

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:15:39 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)

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From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

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sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.

---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:

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>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
>
>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
>connection
>
>  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
>  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
>
>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
>does restarting the whole box
>
>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
ServerDoc
>to catch crashes and restarts
>
>HELP !!
>
>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
more,
>like 3x servers :@
>
>i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.

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Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:15:53 -0500
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't SRCDS have trouble
using Dual Core Processors ATM?  I thought I read
something about tons of Choke on Servers and Clients in
the SteamPowered forums that have/use Dual Core mode.


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 sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
 sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS
default
of 60 and would
 nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
 Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to
cause strange issues
 for lots of people if the fps drops even for a
millisecond


 On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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It's been my experience that win2k is the

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4466 - 12 msgs

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Re: Welcome to the "hlds" mailing list (Markus [metworld.de])
  2. Steam MDMP files (Neil Cumming)
  3. Re: Steam MDMP files (Andreas Grimm)
  4. hlstatsx and cs:s (David Williams)
  5. Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64 (Neil Cumming)
  6. Seere Choke/Lag issues (Daniel Morris)
  7. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.)
  8. Re: Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64 (kyle)
  9. Re: hlstatsx and cs:s (Ook)
 10. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (kyle)
 11. can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (David
Williams)
 12. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Joshua
Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:13:51 +0100
From: "Markus [metworld.de]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Welcome to the "hlds" mailing list
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

As Alfred said (not even) 2 months ago when somebody got exactly the
same problem, that you just have to try it again and again because the
update servers may not handle all requests properly! Just (nearly)
quoting what he said!

. markus







David Williams schrieb:

well if this is true:-

1) wheres the proof???

2) Why haven't valve done anything about it or just said something. As
with the problems already identified here in this list and elsewhere and
with this claim vlave are surely goin to lose players and watch their
network die just like EA did with Battlefield 1. Of course i would laugh
my ass off if that happened coz Valve are asking for it.

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:


The update problem belongs to the overwhelming upload request by server
administrators! Valve just has to stock up more server so they can
handle all incoming requests!

greetz
markus

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From: "Neil Cumming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:08:57 -
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Subject: [hlds] Steam MDMP files
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I have a big pile of these mdmp files that are generated every time on of
my
servers crash, is there anywhere I can send these to help with debugging
the
crashes ?

Thanks.

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From: "Andreas Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam MDMP files
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:22:01 +0100
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that would interest me, too ...
the most crashes on our servers are made by plugins ...
but would be nice to know if somebody needs that files to search general
bugs.

Andi

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mdmp files that are generated every time on of my servers crash, is there
anywhere I can send these to help with debugging the crashes ?

Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:26:51 +
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. excep

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4470 - 7 msgs

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  1. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (David Williams)
  2. RE: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Alfred
Reynolds)
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (David Williams)
  4. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:48:54 +
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?



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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

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From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no proble

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4469 - 6 msgs

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  2. RE: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Alfred Reynolds)
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Ook)
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From: "Affordablegameservers.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:27:13 -0500
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

theres a client issue i believe not a server one

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Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues


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You would be incorrect

Well you are incorrect when talking about SRCDS on Dual Core CPU's running
under Windows, and we are on the Windows Mailing list.

I know this because nearly all our servers are Dual Core and Dual CPU
Opteron Servers with Windows 2003. :)

On 3/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't SRCDS have trouble
using Dual Core Processors ATM?  I thought I read
something about tons of Choke on Servers and Clients in
the SteamPowered forums that have/use Dual Core mode.


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  sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
  sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS
default
of 60 and would
  nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
  Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to
cause strange issues
  for lots of people if the fps drops even for a
millisecond


  On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS
>to run a server
> on.
>
> Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1
>mods.   one 32
> slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>
> Sv_maxrate 12000
> Sv_minupdaterate 20
> Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate
>settings.i have
> tested
> many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
>server HL1 servers.
> And ill never run any other settings.
> i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot
>recommend highly enough.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Graham M.
> Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
> Daniel Morris wrote:
>
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> >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag
>and choke
> >
> >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB
>ram, 100mbit
> >connection
> >
> >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128
>slot SRCTV )
> >
> >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install
>doesnt fix it, nor
> >does restarting the whole box
> >
> >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of
>SCRDS, and
> ServerDoc
> >to catch crashes and restarts
> >
> >HELP !!
> >
> >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all,
>and they run
> more,
> >like 3x servers :@
> >
> >i dont get it
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> What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full?
>And the 100 Tick
> Rate could be something to do with it.
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[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4467 - 9 msgs

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  2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Ook)
  3. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.) (Daniel Morris)
  4. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
  so (David Williams)
  5. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Ook)
  6. Re: Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.) (kyle)
  7. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so (Joshua
Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
  8. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Whisper)

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:04:58 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "DL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so
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Hlstatsx does NOT ban anything. It does NOT talk to VAC. All it does is
list those banned by VAC on hlstatsx monitored servers.
Your friend was banned for using known cheats.

---Original Message---

From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 19:56:42
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so

on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my precious.

I think this could be one for alfred


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From: "Ook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:12:01 -0800
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go and
buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[David Williams]

k will do that in the morning

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:


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Try taking off all addons / mods from your server, restart it and see if he
still gets banned or kicked or what ever.
Then post the logs again.

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



well the only mods/plugns i have are mani beta L and hlstats. Since i
posted the logs i have rechecked all the possible ban list's and come up
with nothing. And hlstats is definielty reporting a vac ban. so all i
can say is wtf and if it's not a vac ban and i am postivie it's not my
plugins so what is it

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:




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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20



minutes



L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:






Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on



this



mystery.

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to do
so







that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join





for





a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:






He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so







ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again





valve





has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the



hlstats



website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed



in



the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue



a



vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban





was





deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:






If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

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Try taking off all addons / mods from your server, restart it and see if he
still gets banned or kicked or what ever.
Then post the logs again.

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well the only mods/plugns i have are mani beta L and hlstats. Since i
> posted the logs i have rechecked all the possible ban list's and come up
> with nothing. And hlstats is definielty reporting a vac ban. so all i
> can say is wtf and if it's not a vac ban and i am postivie it's not my
> plugins so what is it
>
> Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
> >plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
> >would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.
> >
> >Hello trog :)
> >
> >On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >>--
> >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>the log for the original instance is
> >>http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
> >>instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)
> >>
> >>then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant
> >>
> >>here's the log
> >>of the second instance.
> >>
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T* timed out")
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
> >>connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
> >>STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")
> >>
> >>[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
> >>ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]
> >>
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
> >>connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
> >>USERID validated
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20
> minutes
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
> >>connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T*<64><>" entered the game
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
> >>{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> >>*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
> >>"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
> >>"Got_The_Bomb"
> >>L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"
> >>
> >>now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
> >>is where we are now
> >>
> >>
> >>Ook wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> >>>them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on
> this
> >>>mystery.
> >>>
> >>>- Original Message -
> >>>From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: 
> >>>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> >>>to do
> >>>so
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
> 
> 
> >>for
> >>
> >>
> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
> 
> Ook wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
> >enabled
> >servers?
> >
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> >to do
> >so
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
> >>
> >>
> >>valve
> >>
> >>
> >>has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
> >>someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the
> hlstats
> >>website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed
> in
> >>the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
> >>only
> >>vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue
> a
> >>vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one expl

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[David Williams]

well the only mods/plugns i have are mani beta L and hlstats. Since i
posted the logs i have rechecked all the possible ban list's and come up
with nothing. And hlstats is definielty reporting a vac ban. so all i
can say is wtf and if it's not a vac ban and i am postivie it's not my
plugins so what is it

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:


--
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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20 minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:




Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join



for



a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:




He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again



valve



has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban



was



deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:




If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hack

Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

[kyle]

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lol, someone's been smoking crack.

---Original Message---

From: Stuart Stegall
Date: 03/19/06 20:28:11
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

  From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
> never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past and
> now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k
>
> currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod
and
> 1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
> HLTV server.
> the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this
server
> is also Boosted.
>
> The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
> fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit
reg
> with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be careful
> doing this if your not sure what your doing.
> Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
> http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Neil Cumming
> Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have
any
> performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5 64bit,
> running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box
with
> the following specs:
>
> Windows 2000 Pro.
> AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
> 1GB RAM.
>
> I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
> performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant afford
a
> 64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)
>
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[hlds] Server Choke - Resolving problem / Improving performace

[Daniel Morris]

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Id like to thank everyone for there help

now they are CS:Source so SCRDS executables

Im running Win XP Pro SP2

Using whats on therer, what is the BEST confiduration / Optimal
configuration for the best performance

ALL of the hardware is P4 3.0Ghz 64 bit ( model 630's ) with 1GB ram and i'l
be honest, im not too good at the configs, so any and as much help is
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

--
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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> the log for the original instance is
> http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
> instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)
>
> then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant
>
> here's the log
> of the second instance.
>
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T* timed out")
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
> connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
> STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")
>
> [at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
> ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]
>
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
> connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
> USERID validated
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20 minutes
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
> connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T*<64><>" entered the game
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
> {NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
> *T*<64>" joined team "CT"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
> "{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
> "Got_The_Bomb"
> L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"
>
> now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
> is where we are now
>
>
> Ook wrote:
>
> > Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> > them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
> > mystery.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> > to do
> > so
> >
> >
> >> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
> for
> >> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
> >> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
> >> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
> >> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
> >> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
> >>
> >> Ook wrote:
> >>
> >>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
> >>> enabled
> >>> servers?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> >>> to do
> >>> so
> >>>
> >>>
>  ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
> valve
>  has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
>  someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
>  website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
>  the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
>  only
>  vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
>  vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
>  for
>  me.
> 
>  and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban
> was
>  deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
>  swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
> 
>  Ook wrote:
> 
> > If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
> > don't
> > hold
> > your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
> > reason,
> > your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
> > However,
> > this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> > to do
> > so
> >
> >
> >> i was playing with him at th

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[David Harrison]

AFAIK, VAC bans are logged as follows:

"blah<><>" disconnected (reason "VAC banned from secure
server")

I'd say what you have is some random mod or plugin banning him for some
other reason.

-- trog



 Original Message 
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so (logs contained)


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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this
contains 2 instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the
log of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S}
Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" connected, address
"222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check
the ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically
appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20
minutes L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" connected, address
"222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and
here is where we are now


Ook wrote:


Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to
see them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light
on this mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can
join for a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then
leaves straight away he won't get back in. anyone else think this
is strange. Also if there is nothing we can do valve just lost a
valuable customer (but aren't customers valuable???) and before you
ask i am positive it is a vac ban. i had my host check the logs
twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told
vac to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
valve has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and
banned someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on
the hlstats website and the user in question is not listed there
but is listed in the vac bans section of the control panel. also
interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd
becasue a vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one
explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the
ban was deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i
laugh. (I won't swear again but insert expletives here about 10
will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told
vac to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
falsely banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need
to 

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

i know it was a random question really but you guys had any luck with
the logs.

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:


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That database error is coming up because you haven't set it to anything.
That has nothing to do with it, nor is that the logs.

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



k will do as soon as i can. Also i've just noticed that hlstats is
reporting a database error:

*Database Error*

/Server Address:/ localhost
/Server Username:/ client_site

/Error Diagnostic:/
Bad query.

/Server Error:/ (1044) Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
database 'client_site'

/Last SQL Query:/


   CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE hlstats_Frags_Kills
   (
   playerId INT(10),
   kills INT(10),
   deaths INT(10),
   headshot INT(10),
 country varchar(128),
 flag char(2)

   )

that is from the user info page i think it's for the hitbox info supplied
by small statsme. am i right???




Ook wrote:




Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join



for



a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:




He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again



valve



has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban



was



deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:




If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:




hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has



falsely



banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to



go



and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac



to



do so





on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:




This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered
in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into
admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original

Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

[Stuart Stegall]

From just a straight performance comparison (not from a
breakage/support standpoint), then for the hlds games, there is
basically no difference between the two platforms (technically I've
found that disk operations happen faster on the linux hlds, but really
it makes no difference except like 1 second on REALLY big maps)

Now for srcds it does seems as though there's a very measurable
performance diffference between the two platforms, with the Windows
server outperforming the Linux server on the same hardware with
basically the same tweaks (mainly the timer tweaks that apply to both
platforms).  My platform hardware is Dell 2800 Xeon P4 2.8 or Aberdeen
Stonehaven A141s with Opteron 248s, 252s, or 254s all running either
Win2k3R2 or Gentoo Linux (2.6.15.1 with some patches related to latency.)

kyle wrote:

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I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod and
1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this server
is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit reg
with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have any
performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5 64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box with
the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant afford a
64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

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That database error is coming up because you haven't set it to anything.
That has nothing to do with it, nor is that the logs.

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> k will do as soon as i can. Also i've just noticed that hlstats is
> reporting a database error:
>
> *Database Error*
>
> /Server Address:/ localhost
> /Server Username:/ client_site
>
> /Error Diagnostic:/
> Bad query.
>
> /Server Error:/ (1044) Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
> database 'client_site'
>
> /Last SQL Query:/
>
>
> CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE hlstats_Frags_Kills
> (
> playerId INT(10),
> kills INT(10),
> deaths INT(10),
> headshot INT(10),
>   country varchar(128),
>   flag char(2)
>
> )
>
> that is from the user info page i think it's for the hitbox info supplied
> by small statsme. am i right???
>
>
>
>
> Ook wrote:
>
> > Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> > them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
> > mystery.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> > to do
> > so
> >
> >
> >> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
> for
> >> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
> >> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
> >> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
> >> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
> >> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
> >>
> >> Ook wrote:
> >>
> >>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
> >>> enabled
> >>> servers?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> >>> to do
> >>> so
> >>>
> >>>
>  ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
> valve
>  has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
>  someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
>  website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
>  the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
>  only
>  vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
>  vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
>  for
>  me.
> 
>  and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban
> was
>  deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
>  swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
> 
>  Ook wrote:
> 
> > If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
> > don't
> > hold
> > your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
> > reason,
> > your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
> > However,
> > this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> > to do
> > so
> >
> >
> >> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
> >> ban was
> >> only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
> >> times vac
> >> was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
> >> think
> >> they are worse than scum so he is innocent
> >>
> >> Ook wrote:
> >>
> >>> hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
> >>> VAC, he
> >>> probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
> falsely
> >>> banned
> >>> yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to
> go
> >>> and buy
> >>> another key.
> >>>
> >>> Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
> >>> Hlstatsx
> >>> can
> >>> ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
> >>> that can
> >>> control this.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
> >>> Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> to
> >>> do so
> >>>
> >>>
>  on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my we

Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[David Williams]

does it work with the client too ;)???

Whisper wrote:


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It works for both HLDS & SRCDS as its ia and OS level effect not application
level.

On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just  assumed he
was talking about running an HL1 mod  of some sort.im not even sure if
that works for srcds or not.  But if it does then running media player
would
take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.

---Original Message---

From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.

kyle wrote:




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That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

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sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange



issues



for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





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It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly



enough.



---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:






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One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
connection

1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it,



nor



does restarting the whole box

its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and





ServerDoc





to catch crashes and restarts

HELP !!

none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run





more,





like 3x servers :@

i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs contained)

[David Williams]

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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20 minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:

> Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
> mystery.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> to do
> so
>
>
>> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
>> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
>> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
>> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
>> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
>> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
>>
>> Ook wrote:
>>
>>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
>>> enabled
>>> servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
>>> to do
>>> so
>>>
>>>
 ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
 has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
 someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
 website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
 the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
 only
 vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
 vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
 for
 me.

 and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
 deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
 swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

 Ook wrote:

> If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
> don't
> hold
> your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
> reason,
> your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
> However,
> this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
> to do
> so
>
>
>> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
>> ban was
>> only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
>> times vac
>> was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
>> think
>> they are worse than scum so he is innocent
>>
>> Ook wrote:
>>
>>> hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
>>> VAC, he
>>> probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
>>> banned
>>> yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
>>> and buy

Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Whisper]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It works for both HLDS & SRCDS as its ia and OS level effect not application
level.

On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just  assumed he
> was talking about running an HL1 mod  of some sort.im not even sure if
> that works for srcds or not.  But if it does then running media player
> would
> take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
> when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: David Williams
> Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
> i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
> fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
> Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
>
> kyle wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >
> >From: Whisper
> >Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
> >sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
> >nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
> >Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
> issues
> >for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
> >
> >
> >On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>--
> >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
> >>on.
> >>
> >>Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
> >>slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> >>
> >>Sv_maxrate 12000
> >>Sv_minupdaterate 20
> >>Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> >>tested
> >>many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
> >>And ill never run any other settings.
> >>i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
> enough.
> >>
> >>---Original Message---
> >>
> >>From: Graham M.
> >>Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >>
> >>Daniel Morris wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--
> >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> >>>
> >>>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
> >>>connection
> >>>
> >>> 1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> >>> 1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> >>>
> >>>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it,
> nor
> >>>does restarting the whole box
> >>>
> >>>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>ServerDoc
> >>
> >>
> >>>to catch crashes and restarts
> >>>
> >>>HELP !!
> >>>
> >>>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
> >>>
> >>>
> >>more,
> >>
> >>
> >>>like 3x servers :@
> >>>
> >>>i dont get it
> >>>--
> >>>
> >>>___
> >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>please visit:
> >>
> >>
> >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
> >>Rate could be something to do with it.
> >>
> >>___
> >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
> >>please visit:
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> >>
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> >>
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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[kyle]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just  assumed he
was talking about running an HL1 mod  of some sort.im not even sure if
that works for srcds or not.  But if it does then running media player would
take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.

---Original Message---

From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.

kyle wrote:

>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
>
>---Original Message---
>
>From: Whisper
>Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
>sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
>nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
>Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
>for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
>
>
>On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>--
>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
>>on.
>>
>>Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
>>slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>>
>>Sv_maxrate 12000
>>Sv_minupdaterate 20
>>Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
>>tested
>>many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
>>And ill never run any other settings.
>>i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.
>>
>>---Original Message---
>>
>>From: Graham M.
>>Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>>
>>Daniel Morris wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
>>>
>>>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
>>>connection
>>>
>>> 1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
>>> 1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
>>>
>>>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
>>>does restarting the whole box
>>>
>>>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
>>>
>>>
>>ServerDoc
>>
>>
>>>to catch crashes and restarts
>>>
>>>HELP !!
>>>
>>>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
>>>
>>>
>>more,
>>
>>
>>>like 3x servers :@
>>>
>>>i dont get it
>>>--
>>>
>>>___
>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
>>>
>>>
>>please visit:
>>
>>
>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
>>Rate could be something to do with it.
>>
>>___
>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
>>please visit:
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>>
>>
>>
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>>please visit:
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>>
>>
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

k will do as soon as i can. Also i've just noticed that hlstats is
reporting a database error:

*Database Error*

/Server Address:/ localhost
/Server Username:/ client_site

/Error Diagnostic:/
Bad query.

/Server Error:/ (1044) Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
database 'client_site'

/Last SQL Query:/


CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE hlstats_Frags_Kills
(
playerId INT(10),
kills INT(10),
deaths INT(10),
headshot INT(10),
 country varchar(128),
 flag char(2)

)

that is from the user info page i think it's for the hitbox info supplied by 
small statsme. am i right???




Ook wrote:


Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered
in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into
admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems
and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED 

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Ook]

Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so



that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it 

Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

well as you can see alfred this is positively strange. I have never
experienced this before and as you will see in my other reply i have
checked pretty much everything i can think of. the user has disputed the
ban on my recommendation but you know as well as i do he stands no
chance of being reinstated, simply because it's our word against some
piece of shit program that fucks up all the time (sorry getting really
mad about this) i know it's not your fault but surely someone must
listen to you alfred, surely someone other than you cares. or are the
other valve staff the biggest bunch of tosspots ever?

Alfred Reynolds wrote:


VAC bans apply globally. VAC only bans on positive detection of a cheat.
If you wish to dispute a ban please go to
http://support.steampowered.com/ and follow the process it describes
there.

- Alfred

David Williams wrote:



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:




If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't hold your breath until they do something about it. No matter
what the reason, your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is
reporting the ban. However, this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so





i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban
was only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac was reporting it. I personally can not stand
hackers/cheaters i think they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:




hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC,
he probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
falsely banned yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He
will need to go and buy another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx can ban people from the server, and there are a couple of
settings that can control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so





on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you
would laugh he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve
policy is not to lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not
goin to put the server into insecure mode and let all the loser
who do cheat play on my precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:




This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in
the admin setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you
gone into admin setup via the web page and setup a server for it
to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s





hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with
my admin team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no
problems and everythng looked good to go with no problems.
except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but
after looking around the forums using google i can't find
anything that match's our problem. Can anyone help i've put an
example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
  SERVER: RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
  SERVER: RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
  SERVER: RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
doesn't work. Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm
not a very patient person.

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

well mani auto bans ARE off i checked i have a thing about plugins
banning ppl it's not fair and removes the human control i feel the
server needs. We have no other plugins running on the server other than
hlstatsx. I didn't ban him if i had why the hell would i spend this
amount of time typing. I checked the logs and none of my other admins
did it. So that leaves hlstats itself which we discounted or a very
clever hacker and i doubt that. so lets keep the ideas coming so i can
prove your wasting your time. i might be a noob but i'm not that dim.
before i make a post i do have a tendency to check i can fix it. if i
can i don't bother

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In all likely hood, he was banned by another plugin
(Mani-Mod or some other Admin Service Tool) not VAC.  VAC
is said to take days or weeks and multiple cheating
violations to get banned (Last I read).  Check your LOG
files, it will tell you there, or least it should.


 He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on
other VAC enabled
 servers?



 - Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think
it told vac to do
 so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong
that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard
and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on
the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but
is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also
interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely
wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain
that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that
said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i
laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to
Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter
what the reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting
the ban. However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think
it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at
first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple
of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand
hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got
banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC
has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will
need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server
itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of
settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it
told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin
"forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE
OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play
you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve
policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put
the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat
play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server
entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone
into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours
with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no
problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when
we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds
and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but
after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that
match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs
below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E

RE: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Alfred Reynolds]

VAC bans apply globally. VAC only bans on positive detection of a cheat.
If you wish to dispute a ban please go to
http://support.steampowered.com/ and follow the process it describes
there.

- Alfred

David Williams wrote:
> ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
> has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
> someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
> website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
> the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
> only
> vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
> vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
> for me.
>
> and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
> deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
> swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
>
> Ook wrote:
>
>> If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
>> don't hold your breath until they do something about it. No matter
>> what the reason, your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is
>> reporting the ban. However, this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
>> to do
>> so
>>
>>
>>> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban
>>> was only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
>>> times vac was reporting it. I personally can not stand
>>> hackers/cheaters i think they are worse than scum so he is innocent
>>>
>>> Ook wrote:
>>>
 hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC,
 he probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
 falsely banned yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He
 will need to go and buy another key.

 Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
 Hlstatsx can ban people from the server, and there are a couple of
 settings that can control this.

 http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


 - Original Message -
 From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
 Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
 do so


> on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
> it. but
> now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
> CLAN MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you
> would laugh he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve
> policy is not to lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not
> goin to put the server into insecure mode and let all the loser
> who do cheat play on my precious.
>
> I think this could be one for alfred
>
> Ook wrote:
>
>> This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in
>> the admin setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you
>> gone into admin setup via the web page and setup a server for it
>> to use?
>>
>> Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
>> Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
>>
>>
>>> hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with
>>> my admin team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no
>>> problems and everythng looked good to go with no problems.
>>> except when we
>>> start up
>>> the gameserver we get the following error
>>>
>>> E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.
>>>
>>> we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
>>> also the latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but
>>> after looking around the forums using google i can't find
>>> anything that match's our problem. Can anyone help i've put an
>>> example of the logs below.
>>>
>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>>>SERVER: RL 0
>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>>>SERVER: RL 0
>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>>>SERVER: RL 0
>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.
>>>
>>> the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
>>> doesn't work. Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
>>>
>>> let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm
>>> not a very patient person.
>>>
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[richardwelsh]

In all likely hood, he was banned by another plugin
(Mani-Mod or some other Admin Service Tool) not VAC.  VAC
is said to take days or weeks and multiple cheating
violations to get banned (Last I read).  Check your LOG
files, it will tell you there, or least it should.


 He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on
other VAC enabled
 servers?



 - Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think
it told vac to do
 so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong
that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard
and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on
the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but
is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also
interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely
wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain
that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that
said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i
laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to
Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter
what the reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting
the ban. However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think
it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at
first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple
of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand
hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got
banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC
has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will
need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server
itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of
settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it
told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin
"forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE
OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play
you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve
policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put
the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat
play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server
entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone
into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours
with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no
problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when
we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds
and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but
after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that
match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs
below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and
i'm not a
very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:


He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[David Williams]

cheers alfred, any chance you passing on the word about my vac ban
problem. coz for some strange reason my server is the only one effected.
unless it takes some time for the contect servers to fully update

Alfred Reynolds wrote:


Flash and Media player make Windows use a special high resolution
scheduler, trading off more CPU usage for smaller timeslices for
processes (so you can swap in more often).

- Alfred

David Williams wrote:



i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.

kyle wrote:




--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

--
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sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and
would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





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It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a
server on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.
one 32 slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i
have tested many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
server HL1 servers. And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
enough.

---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:






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One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram,
100mbit connection

1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix
it, nor does restarting the whole box

its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and





ServerDoc





to catch crashes and restarts

HELP !!

none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they
run





more,





like 3x servers :@

i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100
Tick Rate could be something to do with it.

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RE: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Alfred Reynolds]

Flash and Media player make Windows use a special high resolution
scheduler, trading off more CPU usage for smaller timeslices for
processes (so you can swap in more often).

- Alfred

David Williams wrote:
> i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
> fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
> Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
>
> kyle wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
>>
>> ---Original Message---
>>
>> From: Whisper
>> Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
>> sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and
>> would
>> nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
>> Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
>> issues
>> for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>> It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a
>>> server on.
>>>
>>> Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.
>>> one 32 slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>>>
>>> Sv_maxrate 12000
>>> Sv_minupdaterate 20
>>> Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i
>>> have tested many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
>>> server HL1 servers. And ill never run any other settings.
>>> i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> ---Original Message---
>>>
>>> From: Graham M.
>>> Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>>>
>>> Daniel Morris wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

 P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram,
 100mbit connection

 1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
 1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

 choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix
 it, nor does restarting the whole box

 its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and


>>> ServerDoc
>>>
>>>
 to catch crashes and restarts

 HELP !!

 none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they
 run


>>> more,
>>>
>>>
 like 3x servers :@

 i dont get it
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>>> What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100
>>> Tick Rate could be something to do with it.
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Ook]

He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?



- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so



ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban. However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
very
patient person.

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RE: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Affordablegameservers.com]

theres a client issue i believe not a server one

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:22 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You would be incorrect

Well you are incorrect when talking about SRCDS on Dual Core CPU's running
under Windows, and we are on the Windows Mailing list.

I know this because nearly all our servers are Dual Core and Dual CPU
Opteron Servers with Windows 2003. :)

On 3/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't SRCDS have trouble
> using Dual Core Processors ATM?  I thought I read
> something about tons of Choke on Servers and Clients in
> the SteamPowered forums that have/use Dual Core mode.
>
>
>   --
>   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>   sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
>   sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS
> default
> of 60 and would
>   nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
>   Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to
> cause strange issues
>   for lots of people if the fps drops even for a
> millisecond
>
>
>   On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS
> >to run a server
> > on.
> >
> > Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1
> >mods.   one 32
> > slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> >
> > Sv_maxrate 12000
> > Sv_minupdaterate 20
> > Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate
> >settings.i have
> > tested
> > many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
> >server HL1 servers.
> > And ill never run any other settings.
> > i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot
> >recommend highly enough.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Graham M.
> > Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >
> > Daniel Morris wrote:
> >
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag
> >and choke
> > >
> > >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB
> >ram, 100mbit
> > >connection
> > >
> > >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> > >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128
> >slot SRCTV )
> > >
> > >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install
> >doesnt fix it, nor
> > >does restarting the whole box
> > >
> > >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of
> >SCRDS, and
> > ServerDoc
> > >to catch crashes and restarts
> > >
> > >HELP !!
> > >
> > >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all,
> >and they run
> > more,
> > >like 3x servers :@
> > >
> > >i dont get it
> > >--
> > >
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> > What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full?
> >And the 100 Tick
> > Rate could be something to do with it.
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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[David Williams]

i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.

kyle wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.

---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:




--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
connection

1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
does restarting the whole box

its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and



ServerDoc



to catch crashes and restarts

HELP !!

none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run



more,



like 3x servers :@

i dont get it
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:


If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban. However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac
to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to
do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Whisper]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You would be incorrect

Well you are incorrect when talking about SRCDS on Dual Core CPU's running
under Windows, and we are on the Windows Mailing list.

I know this because nearly all our servers are Dual Core and Dual CPU
Opteron Servers with Windows 2003. :)

On 3/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't SRCDS have trouble
> using Dual Core Processors ATM?  I thought I read
> something about tons of Choke on Servers and Clients in
> the SteamPowered forums that have/use Dual Core mode.
>
>
>   --
>   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>   sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
>   sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS
> default
> of 60 and would
>   nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
>   Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to
> cause strange issues
>   for lots of people if the fps drops even for a
> millisecond
>
>
>   On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS
> >to run a server
> > on.
> >
> > Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1
> >mods.   one 32
> > slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> >
> > Sv_maxrate 12000
> > Sv_minupdaterate 20
> > Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate
> >settings.i have
> > tested
> > many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
> >server HL1 servers.
> > And ill never run any other settings.
> > i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot
> >recommend highly enough.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Graham M.
> > Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >
> > Daniel Morris wrote:
> >
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag
> >and choke
> > >
> > >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB
> >ram, 100mbit
> > >connection
> > >
> > >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> > >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128
> >slot SRCTV )
> > >
> > >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install
> >doesnt fix it, nor
> > >does restarting the whole box
> > >
> > >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of
> >SCRDS, and
> > ServerDoc
> > >to catch crashes and restarts
> > >
> > >HELP !!
> > >
> > >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all,
> >and they run
> > more,
> > >like 3x servers :@
> > >
> > >i dont get it
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> > What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full?
> >And the 100 Tick
> > Rate could be something to do with it.
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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Whisper]

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
The OP was talking about SRCDS though

Or he was talking about tickrate, so I had to assume he was talking about
SRCDS :)

On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Whisper
> Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
> sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
> nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
> Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
> for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
>
>
> On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
> > on.
> >
> > Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
> > slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
> >
> > Sv_maxrate 12000
> > Sv_minupdaterate 20
> > Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> > tested
> > many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
> > And ill never run any other settings.
> > i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly
> enough.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Graham M.
> > Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
> >
> > Daniel Morris wrote:
> >
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> > >
> > >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
> > >connection
> > >
> > >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> > >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> > >
> > >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it,
> nor
> > >does restarting the whole box
> > >
> > >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> > ServerDoc
> > >to catch crashes and restarts
> > >
> > >HELP !!
> > >
> > >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
> > more,
> > >like 3x servers :@
> > >
> > >i dont get it
> > >--
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> > What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
> > Rate could be something to do with it.
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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[richardwelsh]

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't SRCDS have trouble
using Dual Core Processors ATM?  I thought I read
something about tons of Choke on Servers and Clients in
the SteamPowered forums that have/use Dual Core mode.


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 sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
 sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS
default
of 60 and would
 nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
 Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to
cause strange issues
 for lots of people if the fps drops even for a
millisecond


 On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS
to run a server
on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1
mods.   one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate
settings.i have
tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run
server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot
recommend highly enough.

---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:

>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag
and choke
>
>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB
ram, 100mbit
>connection
>
>  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
>  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128
slot SRCTV )
>
>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install
doesnt fix it, nor
>does restarting the whole box
>
>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of
SCRDS, and
ServerDoc
>to catch crashes and restarts
>
>HELP !!
>
>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all,
and they run
more,
>like 3x servers :@
>
>i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full?
And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.

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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[kyle]

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That's for srcds not  regular HLDS.  :)

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
> on.
>
> Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
> slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>
> Sv_maxrate 12000
> Sv_minupdaterate 20
> Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> tested
> many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
> And ill never run any other settings.
> i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Graham M.
> Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
> Daniel Morris wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> >
> >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
> >connection
> >
> >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> >
> >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
> >does restarting the whole box
> >
> >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> ServerDoc
> >to catch crashes and restarts
> >
> >HELP !!
> >
> >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
> more,
> >like 3x servers :@
> >
> >i dont get it
> >--
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> >
> What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
> Rate could be something to do with it.
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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Whisper]

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond


On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
> on.
>
> Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
> slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>
> Sv_maxrate 12000
> Sv_minupdaterate 20
> Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have
> tested
> many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
> And ill never run any other settings.
> i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Graham M.
> Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
> Daniel Morris wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
> >
> >P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
> >connection
> >
> >  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
> >  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
> >
> >choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
> >does restarting the whole box
> >
> >its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
> ServerDoc
> >to catch crashes and restarts
> >
> >HELP !!
> >
> >none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
> more,
> >like 3x servers :@
> >
> >i dont get it
> >--
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> What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
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Re: [hlds] Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.)

[kyle]

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Don't use media player, use a SWF file opened in I.E. Minimized.
If you need one I have one for DL on my site.   http://ethugsrus
net/downloads/highrestimer.zip .
also it has been said that you can only set your tickrate in the CMD line,
this is not true.
i set mine in my server.cfg all of the time.

---Original Message---

From: Daniel Morris
Date: 03/19/06 17:16:03
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.)

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
CPU not even being tested

its ideling ( wit no clients) at 0%

the processor shows as dual core,

i've started MediaPlayer so as to boost FPS, but this doesnt seem to do
anything for the actual performace
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Check to see if his name is reported here:
http://www.hlstatsx.com/vacbans

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
> only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
> was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
> they are worse than scum so he is innocent
>
> Ook wrote:
>
> > hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
> > probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
> > banned
> > yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
> > and buy
> > another key.
> >
> > Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx
> > can
> > ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
> > control this.
> >
> > http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
> > Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
> so
> >
> >
> >> on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it.
> but
> >> now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
> >> MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
> >> he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
> >> lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
> >> into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
> >> precious.
> >>
> >> I think this could be one for alfred
> >>
> >> Ook wrote:
> >>
> >>> This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
> >>> admin
> >>> setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
> >>> setup via
> >>> the web page and setup a server for it to use?
> >>>
> >>> Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
> >>> Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
> >>>
> >>>
>  hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
> admin
>  team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
>  everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
>  the gameserver we get the following error
> 
>  E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.
> 
>  we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
>  latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
>  around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
>  problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.
> 
>  2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>  SERVER:
> RL 0
>  3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
>  2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>  SERVER:
> RL 0
>  3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
>  2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
>  SERVER:
> RL 0
>  3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
>  2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.
> 
>  the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
>  work.
>  Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
> 
>  let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
>  very
>  patient person.
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Ook]

If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban. However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do
so



i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:


hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a
very
patient person.

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[hlds] Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Graham M.)

[Daniel Morris]

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CPU not even being tested

its ideling ( wit no clients) at 0%

the processor shows as dual core,

i've started MediaPlayer so as to boost FPS, but this doesnt seem to do
anything for the actual performace
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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Ook]

hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself? Hlstatsx can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so



on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[DL]

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 Hlstatsx does NOT ban anything. It does NOT talk to VAC. All it does is
list those banned by VAC on hlstatsx monitored servers.
Your friend was banned for using known cheats.

---Original Message---

From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 19:56:42
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl coz i think it told vac to do so

on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my precious.

I think this could be one for alfred


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Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)]

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
HLstatsx can not tell VAC to ban people, nor can any other program. Only VAC
can ban people.
You clan member may of been banned by VAC and HLStatsx was just reporting it
to their database. (http://www.hlstatsx.com/vacbans)

Josh

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
> now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
> MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
> he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
> lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
> into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my precious.
>
> I think this could be one for alfred
>
> Ook wrote:
>
> > This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the
> admin
> > setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
> > setup via
> > the web page and setup a server for it to use?
> >
> > Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
> > Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
> >
> >
> >> hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
> >> team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
> >> everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
> >> the gameserver we get the following error
> >>
> >> E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.
> >>
> >> we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
> >> latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
> >> around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
> >> problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.
> >>
> >> 2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
> >>RL 0
> >> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
> >> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
> >>RL 0
> >> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
> >> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
> >>RL 0
> >> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
> >> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.
> >>
> >> the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't work.
> >> Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
> >>
> >> let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a very
> >> patient person.
> >>
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[hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so

[David Williams]

on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:


This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s

[Ook]

This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in the admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

- Original Message -
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s



hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[kyle]

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It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server on.

Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods.   one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.

Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40I swear by these rate settings.i have tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4.   which i cannot recommend highly enough.

---Original Message---

From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

Daniel Morris wrote:

>--
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>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
>
>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
>connection
>
>  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
>  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
>
>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
>does restarting the whole box
>
>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and ServerDoc
>to catch crashes and restarts
>
>HELP !!
>
>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run more,
>like 3x servers :@
>
>i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.

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Re: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

[kyle]

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I run a P4 3.0 gig with one gig of ram, running fedoracore 4 and i have
never run a more stable server.  i have run strictly win2k in the past and
now that i have run the linux distro ill never go back to win2k

currently running two dod 1.3 servers at 1X32 slot with amxmodx/metamod and
1X13 slot private match server with no addons.  im also running 1x20 slot
HLTV server.
the cpu stays well below 70% when the 32 slot server is full.this server
is also Boosted.

The hit reg on a win2k server with Tick set at 100 is not as good as the
fedora with that same 100 tick. the only way to achieve the same hit reg
with a win2k box is to tweak the quantums in the registry.  Be careful
doing this if your not sure what your doing.
Here is a link to a tutorial for tweaking the win OS quantums
http://www.ethugsrus.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=199
---Original Message---

From: Neil Cumming
Date: 03/19/06 10:52:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have any
performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5 64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box with
the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant afford a
64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Graham M.]

Daniel Morris wrote:


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One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
connection

 1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
 1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
does restarting the whole box

its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and ServerDoc
to catch crashes and restarts

HELP !!

none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run more,
like 3x servers :@

i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.

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[hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues

[Daniel Morris]

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke

P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
connection

  1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
  1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )

choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
does restarting the whole box

its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and ServerDoc
to catch crashes and restarts

HELP !!

none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run more,
like 3x servers :@

i dont get it
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[hlds] Windows2k Pro Vs Fedora Core 4/5 64

[Neil Cumming]

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I realise this is Windows list, but im just wondering if any admins have any
performance comparisions between Windows 2k pro and Fedora Core 4/5 64bit,
running with an AMD64 Athlon chip for both HLDS and SRCDS. I have a box with
the following specs:

Windows 2000 Pro.
AMD64 Athlon 3400+ (Socket 754)
1GB RAM.

I run a few servers on the box, but wondering if I would get more
performance and stability if i switched to a linux 64bit OS. I cant afford a
64bit Windows OS unfortunatly. Any thoughts appreciated :)

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[hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s

[David Williams]

hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:
   RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not a very
patient person.

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Re: [hlds] Steam MDMP files

[Andreas Grimm]

that would interest me, too ...
the most crashes on our servers are made by plugins ...
but would be nice to know if somebody needs that files to search general
bugs.

Andi

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Thanks.

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[hlds] Steam MDMP files

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I have a big pile of these mdmp files that are generated every time on of my
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crashes ?

Thanks.

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Re: [hlds] Re: Welcome to the "hlds" mailing list

[Markus [metworld.de]]

As Alfred said (not even) 2 months ago when somebody got exactly the
same problem, that you just have to try it again and again because the
update servers may not handle all requests properly! Just (nearly)
quoting what he said!

. markus







David Williams schrieb:

well if this is true:-

1) wheres the proof???

2) Why haven't valve done anything about it or just said something. As
with the problems already identified here in this list and elsewhere and
with this claim vlave are surely goin to lose players and watch their
network die just like EA did with Battlefield 1. Of course i would laugh
my ass off if that happened coz Valve are asking for it.

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:


The update problem belongs to the overwhelming upload request by server
administrators! Valve just has to stock up more server so they can
handle all incoming requests!

greetz
markus

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[David Williams]

well if this is true:-

1) wheres the proof???

2) Why haven't valve done anything about it or just said something. As
with the problems already identified here in this list and elsewhere and
with this claim vlave are surely goin to lose players and watch their
network die just like EA did with Battlefield 1. Of course i would laugh
my ass off if that happened coz Valve are asking for it.

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:


The update problem belongs to the overwhelming upload request by server
administrators! Valve just has to stock up more server so they can
handle all incoming requests!

greetz
markus

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[hlds] Re: Welcome to the "hlds" mailing list

[Markus [metworld.de]]

The update problem belongs to the overwhelming upload request by server
administrators! Valve just has to stock up more server so they can
handle all incoming requests!

greetz
markus

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RE: [hlds] source compatible rcon tools

[.:: DJ EkL ::.]

If u want a link 4 it here is a 1 that I am hosting
http://ogsrcon.ekl.2ya.com

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Subject: RE: [hlds] source compatible rcon tools

You guys need to read this mailing list more often, and pay more
attention ;)

For a windows based RCON tool that allows for interactive mode, or
command line mode, use the ogsRCON tool written by Frazer from this
mailing list.

Ask Frazer for a link, and im sure he'd be happy to supply it :)

I use this on my server and it is invaluable. Allows for graceful
shutdowns of our server, so that log files are not truncated, as well as
performing maintenance, etc.

Regards,
Adam

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Subject: Re: [hlds] source compatible rcon tools

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servers and we use beetles commands in hlsw (or just regular rcon
commands). I am a little stumped as to how you think it is "too
complicated" especially if you run a server. I mean no offense but it is
much harder to setup and maintain a server than it is to open hlsw and
type in a command.
Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear but maybe you should try
hlsw again. There is nothing difficult about it after you set up your
servers.



On 3/18/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> no offence mate by why post that in a windows only mailing list. I'm
> having a really bad day with srcds and i really am not in any kind of
> mood now to hear "oph i have a tool but you can't use it"
>
> Marcelo Bezerra wrote:
>
> >I actualy have an  rcon tool that supports HL1, SRC, BF2 and Q3
servers.
> >I am planning to release it as open source, but it is actualy for
> >linux only at this time.
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/devel/svn/trunk/rcontool$ ./rcon -s
> >src://cs2.webcabo.com.br:27016
> >Enter your rcon password:
> >
> >Half-Life 1/2 rcon tool $Id: rcon.cc 796 2005-10-09 17:00:57Z mosca $
> >(c) 2001-2005 Marcelo Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> running
> >in interactive mode.
> >Type CTRL + C to quit.
> >./rcon> status
> >hostname:  Webcabo/SecrelNet Brasil CS: Source Bifelandia
> >version   : 1.0.0.27/7 2677 secure
> >udp/ip  :  200.150.137.51:27016
> >map :  cs_militia at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
> >players :  11 (18 max)
> >...
> >./rcon>
> >
> >It can even be used non interactively.
> >
> >./rcon [-v] -s "your.server.com:27015" -p "foobar" -c stat
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 12:18 +, David Williams wrote:
> >
> >
> >>i just found it a bit too complicated for my needs really. I used to

> >>use kontrol with hl1 and thet was perfect for me, but my host told
> >>me to try hlsw but i have to say i don't really like it.
> >>
> >>Wim Barelds wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--
> >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Errr, could you
> >>>tell me any problems you had with HLSW? Interaction
> works as
> >>>well as it gets as far as I know.
> >>>
> >>>On 3/18/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> hey guys.
> 
> i just had a source server come online and i was wondering if
> there
> was
> a good tool to send rcon commands to it. I've tried hlsw but it's
> to much aimed at monitoring rather than interatcion. any one got
> any
> ideas.
> 
> p.s free is good ver good :)
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