Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[AnAkIn .]

The group servers work fine now, the only problem is that it sometimes
displays the wrong group avatars.

2008/11/16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I have one complaint about this system.  People are listing there servers
> under my steam community.  I think it would be nice if I could set a
> password or key on my steam group admin page and change the cvar
> sv_steamgroup
>
> Maybe sv_steamgroup "groupid" "key"
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Ruymen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:39 PM
> Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>
>
> > The Left 4 Dead Demo has been updated.  Please run hldsupdatetool to
> > receive this update.  The specific changes include:
> >
> > - Fixed problem with users not being able to connect to dedicated servers
> > - Fix a bug with the group browser not always showing the list of group
> > servers
> > - Fixed a bug with the rcon command
> >
> > This is not a required update, but it is recommended that you update as
> > soon as possible.
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[L L]

Do they fully work?

When I'm browsing the group servers, I am able to join if there is someone
in the server. However if the server is empty, it won't connect through
group server menu or by using connect in browser.

And yes, also having the problem of people listing their servers under my
group's steam community too.


On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:44 AM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The group servers work fine now, the only problem is that it sometimes
> displays the wrong group avatars.
>
> 2008/11/16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I have one complaint about this system.  People are listing there servers
> > under my steam community.  I think it would be nice if I could set a
> > password or key on my steam group admin page and change the cvar
> > sv_steamgroup
> >
> > Maybe sv_steamgroup "groupid" "key"
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jason Ruymen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> > ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:39 PM
> > Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
> >
> >
> > > The Left 4 Dead Demo has been updated.  Please run hldsupdatetool to
> > > receive this update.  The specific changes include:
> > >
> > > - Fixed problem with users not being able to connect to dedicated
> servers
> > > - Fix a bug with the group browser not always showing the list of group
> > > servers
> > > - Fixed a bug with the rcon command
> > >
> > > This is not a required update, but it is recommended that you update as
> > > soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Philip Bembridge]

I take it someone has found a way of working back (or just guessing) the
steam community group ID
Shouldn't a group admin have to approve adding a server to the group page?

Phil

2008/11/16 L L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Do they fully work?
>
> When I'm browsing the group servers, I am able to join if there is someone
> in the server. However if the server is empty, it won't connect through
> group server menu or by using connect in browser.
>
> And yes, also having the problem of people listing their servers under my
> group's steam community too.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:44 AM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The group servers work fine now, the only problem is that it sometimes
> > displays the wrong group avatars.
> >
> > 2008/11/16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > I have one complaint about this system.  People are listing there
> servers
> > > under my steam community.  I think it would be nice if I could set a
> > > password or key on my steam group admin page and change the cvar
> > > sv_steamgroup
> > >
> > > Maybe sv_steamgroup "groupid" "key"
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jason Ruymen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> > > ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:39 PM
> > > Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Left 4 Dead Demo has been updated.  Please run hldsupdatetool to
> > > > receive this update.  The specific changes include:
> > > >
> > > > - Fixed problem with users not being able to connect to dedicated
> > servers
> > > > - Fix a bug with the group browser not always showing the list of
> group
> > > > servers
> > > > - Fixed a bug with the rcon command
> > > >
> > > > This is not a required update, but it is recommended that you update
> as
> > > > soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
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[hlds] left4dead demo server and client update on saturday the 15th

[brian lyons]

I am having some new difficulties which did not exist prior to the update 
saturday afternoon. specifically altency and lag issues for both the client and 
server. being dropped from the server or server timed out. messeges that say 
retrying connection. now I have gone back and lokked at the servers 
configuration file and it has not changed. nothing of th hardware has been 
changed. I ran network tests from dslreports to calgary, losangeles , miami and 
texas all report no problem. something within the update has caused the 
problem. if there is anything you need me to check please respond with the 
info. 
thankyou, Brian L.


  
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[raydan]

my server open 3 L4D server

after the least 2 upgrade, it crash 2000 times, it create 2000 mdmp
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[AnAkIn .]

Some people left my server, and the group menu kept saying my servers were
full, it seems that it doesn't update the player numbers if some players
leave.

2008/11/16 David Kellaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Aside from it not being particularly hard to guess the number of a random
> group (as I posted earlier, it's probably just the primary key for that
> group in Valve's database, since they seem to be sequential by group age), I
> don't think there's deliberate misassigning of servers - there seems to be a
> bug on the client end where a server from group 1234 will show up to anyone
> in group 123, and so on. I'd guess this is because it's not looking for the
> exact number, it's just seeing if that number is a substring of the server's
> tags (which it is, because "grp:123" is a subset of "grp:1234").
>
> What this ultimately means is until this is fixed, the earlier your
> group(s) were created, the more bogus results you're going to see. I'm in
> multiple groups with two-digit IDs, so the menu is getting a bit
> unmanageable - it'd be nice if this was fixed as fast as the menu itself was
> added...
>
> -Dave
>
> Philip Bembridge wrote:
>
>> I take it someone has found a way of working back (or just guessing) the
>> steam community group ID
>> Shouldn't a group admin have to approve adding a server to the group page?
>>
>> Phil
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[David Kellaway]

Aside from it not being particularly hard to guess the number of a 
random group (as I posted earlier, it's probably just the primary key 
for that group in Valve's database, since they seem to be sequential by 
group age), I don't think there's deliberate misassigning of servers - 
there seems to be a bug on the client end where a server from group 1234 
will show up to anyone in group 123, and so on. I'd guess this is 
because it's not looking for the exact number, it's just seeing if that 
number is a substring of the server's tags (which it is, because 
"grp:123" is a subset of "grp:1234").


What this ultimately means is until this is fixed, the earlier your 
group(s) were created, the more bogus results you're going to see. I'm 
in multiple groups with two-digit IDs, so the menu is getting a bit 
unmanageable - it'd be nice if this was fixed as fast as the menu itself 
was added...


-Dave

Philip Bembridge wrote:

I take it someone has found a way of working back (or just guessing) the
steam community group ID
Shouldn't a group admin have to approve adding a server to the group page?

Phil
  
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[tgnwells]

That's not what it does, someone posted that earlier. It's just a 
command that you would enter normally during a game, not a variable.

Jason wrote:
> I do have sv_unreserve in the server.cfg but that is so that people can join 
> mid-game?
>
> Or has this been changed?
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Patrick Shelley]

Is this right for multiple steam groups?

sv_steamgroup "123456,23456,45678"

or

sv_steamgroup "123456"

sv_steamgroup "23456"

Thx,

Patrick

On 11/15/08, Brian D'Arcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was not an issue 2.. 3 updates ago, something in the last week of
> updates has caused it.  I'm sure valve will get it fixed before launch
> (hopefully).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Rate can be changed.
> >
> > cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate are just limited to 30 because server's FPS
> is
> > 30, so it's useless to put them higher.
> >
> > and there's no sv_maxupdaterate/sv_minupdaterate (would be useless anyway
> I
> > think, since the max updaterate is 30 and the min is 10)
> >
> > 2008/11/15 bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > What about updaterate and cmdrate? The post I saw involved changing the
> > > rate (which you said can't be changed, so that doesn't matter), and
> > > those two as well.
> > >
> > > Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > > Thing is, your rates are locked to 10,000, and aren't manage-able by
> > the
> > > > server...thus we have the problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 PM, bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I've had this problem a few times as well. I saw a fix posted
> > somewhere
> > > >> (mailing list or elsewhere, I don't remember) that involved cranking
> > up
> > > >> your rates on the client.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Alright, there's a problem going on since two updates ago. Every
> time
> > I
> > > >>> reach the subway level, until I get to the lower subway (just past
> > the
> > > >>> escalators), my net_graph looks like the following... and other
> > players
> > > >>>
> > > >> are
> > > >>
> > > >>> experiencing this too.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.1337gaming.com/l4dpics/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This situation loops over and over...it seems to be a client
> problem,
> > > >>>
> > > >> some
> > > >>
> > > >>> clients get it all the time, some get it occasionally, and some get
> > it
> > > >>>
> > > >> not
> > > >>
> > > >>> at all. Very strange. I've reinstalled my server from scratch,
> > verified
> > > >>>
> > > >> my
> > > >>
> > > >>> client files, and all sorts of other changes, with no result. Has
> > > anyone
> > > >>> else seen this or is it just me?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Jason Ruymen <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >  A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.
> >  Please
> > > 
> > > >> run
> > > >>
> > >  hldspdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes
> include:
> > > 
> > >  - Added the ability to tie game servers to Steam Community groups.
> > > Group
> > >  administrators can now see the GroupID on the group's
> administrative
> > > 
> > > >> page,
> > > >>
> > >  which can be used as the value for sv_steamgroup. Users that are
> in
> > > that
> > >  group will then be able to browse directly to them from the main
> > menu
> > >  - Fixed setinfo exploit
> > >  - Fixed a crash when exiting the game
> > >  - Fixed a few cases where the game would crash when using ALT-TAB
> > >  - Fixed a problem that could cause texture corruption on some ATI
> > > video
> > >  cards
> > >  - Fixed a bug that could cause infected horde to disappear
> > > 
> > >  And we've added more documentation for dedicated servers in the
> file
> > >  dedicatedserver_readme.txt
> > > 
> > >  Jason
> > > 
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Saint K.]

Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you want to
be able to join your server.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real admin
system is released.

2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi there
>
>
>
> Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I know about
> sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-IDs
> similar
> to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I don't
have
> to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list, which in
> my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
>
>
>
> I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in that exist
> that can do this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Eric van Beesten]

Maybe a stupid question,

Yesterday i have added sv_steamgroup  to my server.cfg. rebooted
the server and when I connected to my l4d demo I saw, in the main menu, my
servers. But now I can't find them anymore ingame. Even when I search for
them. I'm sure the sv_steamgroup is set and has the correct groupid. Really
strange..

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Patrick Shelley
Verzonden: zondag 16 november 2008 12:52
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Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

Is this right for multiple steam groups?

sv_steamgroup "123456,23456,45678"

or

sv_steamgroup "123456"

sv_steamgroup "23456"

Thx,

Patrick

On 11/15/08, Brian D'Arcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was not an issue 2.. 3 updates ago, something in the last week of
> updates has caused it.  I'm sure valve will get it fixed before launch
> (hopefully).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Rate can be changed.
> >
> > cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate are just limited to 30 because server's FPS
> is
> > 30, so it's useless to put them higher.
> >
> > and there's no sv_maxupdaterate/sv_minupdaterate (would be useless
anyway
> I
> > think, since the max updaterate is 30 and the min is 10)
> >
> > 2008/11/15 bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > What about updaterate and cmdrate? The post I saw involved changing
the
> > > rate (which you said can't be changed, so that doesn't matter), and
> > > those two as well.
> > >
> > > Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > > Thing is, your rates are locked to 10,000, and aren't manage-able by
> > the
> > > > server...thus we have the problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 PM, bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I've had this problem a few times as well. I saw a fix posted
> > somewhere
> > > >> (mailing list or elsewhere, I don't remember) that involved
cranking
> > up
> > > >> your rates on the client.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Alright, there's a problem going on since two updates ago. Every
> time
> > I
> > > >>> reach the subway level, until I get to the lower subway (just past
> > the
> > > >>> escalators), my net_graph looks like the following... and other
> > players
> > > >>>
> > > >> are
> > > >>
> > > >>> experiencing this too.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.1337gaming.com/l4dpics/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This situation loops over and over...it seems to be a client
> problem,
> > > >>>
> > > >> some
> > > >>
> > > >>> clients get it all the time, some get it occasionally, and some
get
> > it
> > > >>>
> > > >> not
> > > >>
> > > >>> at all. Very strange. I've reinstalled my server from scratch,
> > verified
> > > >>>
> > > >> my
> > > >>
> > > >>> client files, and all sorts of other changes, with no result. Has
> > > anyone
> > > >>> else seen this or is it just me?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Jason Ruymen <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >  A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.
> >  Please
> > > 
> > > >> run
> > > >>
> > >  hldspdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes
> include:
> > > 
> > >  - Added the ability to tie game servers to Steam Community
groups.
> > > Group
> > >  administrators can now see the GroupID on the group's
> administrative
> > > 
> > > >> page,
> > > >>
> > >  which can be used as the value for sv_steamgroup. Users that are
> in
> > > that
> > >  group will then be able to browse directly to them from the main
> > menu
> > >  - Fixed setinfo exploit
> > >  - Fixed a crash when exiting the game
> > >  - Fixed a few cases where the game would crash when using ALT-TAB
> > >  - Fixed a problem that could cause texture corruption on some ATI
> > > video
> > >  cards
> > >  - Fixed a bug that could cause infected horde to disappear
> > > 
> > >  And we've added more documentation for dedicated servers in the
> file
> > >  dedicatedserver_readme.txt
> > > 
> > >  Jason
> > > 
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Eric van Beesten]

Correction,

I see my servers after 30 seconds/1 minute in the main menu. This is the
same problem already posted by other people on the mailinglist. So problem
is already known.


Greetz,

eric

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Eric van Beesten
Verzonden: zondag 16 november 2008 13:57
Aan: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

Maybe a stupid question,

Yesterday i have added sv_steamgroup  to my server.cfg. rebooted
the server and when I connected to my l4d demo I saw, in the main menu, my
servers. But now I can't find them anymore ingame. Even when I search for
them. I'm sure the sv_steamgroup is set and has the correct groupid. Really
strange..

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Patrick Shelley
Verzonden: zondag 16 november 2008 12:52
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

Is this right for multiple steam groups?

sv_steamgroup "123456,23456,45678"

or

sv_steamgroup "123456"

sv_steamgroup "23456"

Thx,

Patrick

On 11/15/08, Brian D'Arcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was not an issue 2.. 3 updates ago, something in the last week of
> updates has caused it.  I'm sure valve will get it fixed before launch
> (hopefully).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:51 PM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Rate can be changed.
> >
> > cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate are just limited to 30 because server's FPS
> is
> > 30, so it's useless to put them higher.
> >
> > and there's no sv_maxupdaterate/sv_minupdaterate (would be useless
anyway
> I
> > think, since the max updaterate is 30 and the min is 10)
> >
> > 2008/11/15 bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > What about updaterate and cmdrate? The post I saw involved changing
the
> > > rate (which you said can't be changed, so that doesn't matter), and
> > > those two as well.
> > >
> > > Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > > Thing is, your rates are locked to 10,000, and aren't manage-able by
> > the
> > > > server...thus we have the problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 PM, bl4nk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I've had this problem a few times as well. I saw a fix posted
> > somewhere
> > > >> (mailing list or elsewhere, I don't remember) that involved
cranking
> > up
> > > >> your rates on the client.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cc2iscooL wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Alright, there's a problem going on since two updates ago. Every
> time
> > I
> > > >>> reach the subway level, until I get to the lower subway (just past
> > the
> > > >>> escalators), my net_graph looks like the following... and other
> > players
> > > >>>
> > > >> are
> > > >>
> > > >>> experiencing this too.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.1337gaming.com/l4dpics/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This situation loops over and over...it seems to be a client
> problem,
> > > >>>
> > > >> some
> > > >>
> > > >>> clients get it all the time, some get it occasionally, and some
get
> > it
> > > >>>
> > > >> not
> > > >>
> > > >>> at all. Very strange. I've reinstalled my server from scratch,
> > verified
> > > >>>
> > > >> my
> > > >>
> > > >>> client files, and all sorts of other changes, with no result. Has
> > > anyone
> > > >>> else seen this or is it just me?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Jason Ruymen <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >  A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.
> >  Please
> > > 
> > > >> run
> > > >>
> > >  hldspdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes
> include:
> > > 
> > >  - Added the ability to tie game servers to Steam Community
groups.
> > > Group
> > >  administrators can now see the GroupID on the group's
> administrative
> > > 
> > > >> page,
> > > >>
> > >  which can be used as the value for sv_steamgroup. Users that are
> in
> > > that
> > >  group will then be able to browse directly to them from the main
> > menu
> > >  - Fixed setinfo exploit
> > >  - Fixed a crash when exiting the game
> > >  - Fixed a few cases where the game would crash when using ALT-TAB
> > >  - Fixed a problem that could cause texture corruption on some ATI
> > > video
> > >  cards
> > >  - Fixed a bug that could cause infected horde to disappear
> > > 
> > >  And we've added more documentation for dedicated servers in the
> file
> > >  dedicatedserver_readme.txt
> > > 
> > >  Jason
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

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Sure. Just email me your Steam UserID and Password and I'll do that post 
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

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Do you also accept PayPal?

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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

[Philip Bembridge]

yes I accept all paypal accounts and passwords please ^^

I should really not bump these threads...

2008/11/16 tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Do you also accept PayPal?
>
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

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>
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

[Olly]

We all need a good laugh once in a while though.

2008/11/16 Philip Bembridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> yes I accept all paypal accounts and passwords please ^^
>
> I should really not bump these threads...
>
> 2008/11/16 tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Do you also accept PayPal?
> >
> > Leonard L. Church wrote:
> > > Sure. Just email me your Steam UserID and Password and I'll do that
> post
> > > haste. ;)
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[hlds] L4D demo windows server keep change map then crash

[raydan]

i open 1 dods, and 3 L4D demo in my windows 2003 server
 after player join server and left, 2 L4D server keep change map, it never
stop!
i need to shutdown the server manually

also i open 2 L4D demo in windows xp, one server kepp change map, same as
windows 2003 server

after a few hours, l4d_demo folder create hundred *mdmp files. i already use
-verify_all to check all file.

what happening?


 / windows 2003 server setting /

-console -game dod +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27015 +map dod_anzio

-console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27018 +map
l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment

-console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  -port 27019 +map
l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment

-console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27016 +map
l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment

hostname "name"
rcon_password "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mp_disable_autokick 1
sv_allow_wait_command 0
sv_alltalk 1
sv_alternateticks 0
sv_cheats 0
sv_clearhinthistory 0
sv_consistency 1
sv_downloadurl ""
sv_pausable 0
sv_lan 0
sv_region 4
sv_maxcmdrate 100
z_difficulty Impossible
sv_unreserve

/ windows 2003 server setting /
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Alex Smith]

How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people in
this Steam community?

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you want to
> be able to join your server.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
>
> Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real admin
> system is released.
>
> 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Hi there
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I know
> about
> > sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-IDs
> > similar
> > to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I don't
> have
> > to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list, which
> in
> > my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in that
> exist
> > that can do this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[gameadmin]

As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or some
other game?
If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you can set
sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you can
get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your server
appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at least
one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature isn't
completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The bad news
is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any number of
third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> 
> How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people
> in
> this Steam community?
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
> want to
> > be able to join your server.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> >
> > Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
> admin
> > system is released.
> >
> > 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
> know
> > about
> > > sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
> IDs
> > > similar
> > > to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
> don't
> > have
> > > to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
> which
> > in
> > > my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
> that
> > exist
> > > that can do this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Flubber]

Can't wait for a sourcemod update, "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" is clearly not
working, and i  don't see the point of aking the server visible once omeone
join. The purpose of linking a server to a community is to allow people to
play together if anyone can join and take a community member place that's
just useless. I relly hope it will be exclusive before a game is launch and
after. And a least that we will be able to create lobby before immediately
joining the server. has i described in another thread.

2008/11/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or some
> other game?
> If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you can set
> sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you can
> get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
> sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your server
> appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at least
> one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature isn't
> completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
> If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The bad
> news
> is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any number
> of
> third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> > Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> >
> > How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people
> > in
> > this Steam community?
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
> > want to
> > > be able to join your server.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> > >
> > > Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
> > admin
> > > system is released.
> > >
> > > 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > Hi there
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
> > know
> > > about
> > > > sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
> > IDs
> > > > similar
> > > > to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
> > don't
> > > have
> > > > to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
> > which
> > > in
> > > > my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
> > that
> > > exist
> > > > that can do this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
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[hlds] L4D Community Server System Objective

[Nick Emson]

Hi all,

I'm pleased to see Valve implementing some changes to the originally bundled 
matchmaking system, but still a little bit confused as to what their objective 
is based on its current form.

Navigating in from the main menu we see the new community server list (most of 
the time) and are able to click on it to bring up the community server browse 
list. From here you can highlight a server and you have 2 choices: 'Create 
Lobby' and 'Join Server'. 'Create Lobby' is a bit misleading as it seemingly 
has nothing to do with the communtiy aspect that you have navigated to and 
takes you to the typical Online Campaign lobby screen - i.e. random server 
allocation and player matchmaking. If you choose 'Join Server' on an empty 
server then you are thrown straight into it and up launches the game after 
seeing the lobby screen flick by for a brief half-second with no control.

Given the current problem with the "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" "1" whereby 
outsiders from your community can still connect once a member has joined, it is 
currently near impossible to get 4 buddies on our server before it fills up. 
Therefore, if we are to accept this system we at least need a lobby to get 
everyone in and ready with some organisation. Secondly, if this were the full 
game then I imagine you would be wanting to select the intended campaign. I 
guess in short my question is, should it be behaving this way and should I be 
expecting to see a lobby screen for our community dedi servers (as mentioned it 
briefly flicks by)?

Finally, is there any news on an entirely exclusive mode ("2" - entirely 
exclusive regardless ?) or re-implemented password system so that upon the 
games release I dont find myself "kickid"'ing in a frenzy to get my mates on 
our server against the masses.

Still a bit confused by all these hastily arranged changes - but pleased to see 
Valve are listening to much-needed change.

Regards, TC.
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Alex Smith]

I am running a Counter-Strike source server.  Not Left 4 Dead.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can't wait for a sourcemod update, "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" is clearly not
> working, and i  don't see the point of aking the server visible once omeone
> join. The purpose of linking a server to a community is to allow people to
> play together if anyone can join and take a community member place that's
> just useless. I relly hope it will be exclusive before a game is launch and
> after. And a least that we will be able to create lobby before immediately
> joining the server. has i described in another thread.
>
> 2008/11/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or some
> > other game?
> > If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you can
> set
> > sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you can
> > get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
> > sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your
> server
> > appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at least
> > one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature
> isn't
> > completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
> > If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The bad
> > news
> > is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any number
> > of
> > third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> > > Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> > >
> > > How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people
> > > in
> > > this Steam community?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
> > > want to
> > > > be able to join your server.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
> > > admin
> > > > system is released.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi there
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
> > > know
> > > > about
> > > > > sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
> > > IDs
> > > > > similar
> > > > > to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
> > > don't
> > > > have
> > > > > to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
> > > which
> > > > in
> > > > > my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
> > > that
> > > > exist
> > > > > that can do this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Alex Smith]

Sorry I didn't mention that on my first post.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am running a Counter-Strike source server.  Not Left 4 Dead.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Can't wait for a sourcemod update, "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" is clearly
>> not
>> working, and i  don't see the point of aking the server visible once
>> omeone
>> join. The purpose of linking a server to a community is to allow people to
>> play together if anyone can join and take a community member place that's
>> just useless. I relly hope it will be exclusive before a game is launch
>> and
>> after. And a least that we will be able to create lobby before immediately
>> joining the server. has i described in another thread.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or some
>> > other game?
>> > If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you can
>> set
>> > sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you
>> can
>> > get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
>> > sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your
>> server
>> > appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at
>> least
>> > one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature
>> isn't
>> > completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
>> > If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The bad
>> > news
>> > is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any
>> number
>> > of
>> > third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
>> > > Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
>> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
>> > >
>> > > How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people
>> > > in
>> > > this Steam community?
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
>> > > want to
>> > > > be able to join your server.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
>> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
>> > > >
>> > > > Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
>> > > admin
>> > > > system is released.
>> > > >
>> > > > 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi there
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
>> > > know
>> > > > about
>> > > > > sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
>> > > IDs
>> > > > > similar
>> > > > > to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
>> > > don't
>> > > > have
>> > > > > to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
>> > > which
>> > > > in
>> > > > > my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
>> > > that
>> > > > exist
>> > > > > that can do this.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Alex Smith
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[hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Jason Ruymen]

A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run 
hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

- Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping 
state
- Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed 
sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
- Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
- Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely


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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[SakeFox]

anyone know if this fixes the subway map bug at the start where it 
freezes up?

Jason Ruymen wrote:
> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run 
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping 
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed 
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Brian Farrell]

I certainly hope so :)

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  From: SakeFox 
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  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available


  anyone know if this fixes the subway map bug at the start where it 
  freezes up?

  Jason Ruymen wrote:
  > A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run 
hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
  >
  > - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping 
state
  > - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed 
sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
  > - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
  > - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
  >
  >
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Patrick Shelley]

is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?

For example:

sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"

or

sv_steamgroup "1234"
sv_steamgroup "5678"
sv_steamgroup "7652"
sv_steamgroup "8643"

Regard,

Patrick

On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>
>
> Jason
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Jonah Hirsch]

I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...

Patrick Shelley wrote:
> is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
>
> For example:
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
>
> or
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234"
> sv_steamgroup "5678"
> sv_steamgroup "7652"
> sv_steamgroup "8643"
>
> Regard,
>
> Patrick
>
> On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run
>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>
>> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping
>> state
>> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Jason]

> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a 
> looping state

This might have been my bug or sv_unreserve, however with sv_unreserve 
removed and this supposedly fixed I guess it doesn't really matter.

> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed 
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now

Hmm fair enough sv_unreserve was removed, can people still join mid-game?

As for sv_steamgroup_exclusive Is it going to have multiple values? I was 
thinking I might start with having 1 community member join then get 
populated by matchmaking and later on maybe making it full exclusive?

So sv_steamgroup_exclusive

0 - Disabled
1 - Exclusive for first group member?
2 - Full exclusive only group members?

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available


>A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run 
>hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a 
> looping state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed 
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>
>
> Jason
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[hlds]

Am I the only one to notice that it seems to lag like crazy any time Mobs
spawn now? Or maybe that is a coincidence related to moving my directory
to a new hard drive.
--Welder

> I certainly hope so :)
>
> --
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>   - Original Message -
>   From: SakeFox
>   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>   Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:02 PM
>   Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>
>
>   anyone know if this fixes the subway map bug at the start where it
>   freezes up?
>
>   Jason Ruymen wrote:
>   > A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
> run hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes
> include:
>   >
>   > - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
> looping state
>   > - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>   > - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>   > - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
> indefinitely
>   >
>   >
>   > Jason
>   >
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[turb0z]

All signs point to fixed.

So far no looping after a round was finished.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:51 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run
hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

- Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping
state
- Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
- Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
- Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely


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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[DontWannaName!]

I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.





From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...

Patrick Shelley wrote:
> is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
>
> For example:
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
>
> or
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234"
> sv_steamgroup "5678"
> sv_steamgroup "7652"
> sv_steamgroup "8643"
>
> Regard,
>
> Patrick
>
> On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run
>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>
>> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping
>> state
>> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[AnAkIn .]

sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?

20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
  - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
lobby, may not connect directly.

2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>
> I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...
>
> Patrick Shelley wrote:
> > is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
> >
> > or
> >
> > sv_steamgroup "1234"
> > sv_steamgroup "5678"
> > sv_steamgroup "7652"
> > sv_steamgroup "8643"
> >
> > Regard,
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
> run
> >> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
> >>
> >> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
> looping
> >> state
> >> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> >> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> >> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> >> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
> indefinitely
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[AnAkIn .]

And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
connect opens a lobby.

2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>
> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
> lobby, may not connect directly.
>
> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>>
>> I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...
>>
>> Patrick Shelley wrote:
>> > is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
>> >
>> > For example:
>> >
>> > sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > sv_steamgroup "1234"
>> > sv_steamgroup "5678"
>> > sv_steamgroup "7652"
>> > sv_steamgroup "8643"
>> >
>> > Regard,
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> > On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>> run
>> >> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>> >>
>> >> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>> looping
>> >> state
>> >> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> >> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> >> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> >> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>> indefinitely
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Kitteny Berk]

Anyone else finding that when using direct connect/steam groups server 
function,  the lobby only stays open for a few seconds before loading 
the game?  It's bloody inconvenient.

AnAkIn . wrote:
> And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
> connect opens a lobby.
>
> 2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>>
>> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
>> lobby, may not connect directly.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...
>>>
>>> Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>   
 is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?

 For example:

 sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"

 or

 sv_steamgroup "1234"
 sv_steamgroup "5678"
 sv_steamgroup "7652"
 sv_steamgroup "8643"

 Regard,

 Patrick

 On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>   
>>> run
>>>   
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>   
>>> looping
>>>   
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>   
>>> indefinitely
>>>   
> Jason
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Flubber]

I don't get it i got sv_steamgroup_exclusive set to 1 but still people who
are not part of our group can still joined the server. How exactly does it
work, excluse to the first player or exclusive to players from a group even
when a game is running. We really want our servers to be closed to anyone
but our steam community members.

2008/11/16 Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please run
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a looping
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby indefinitely
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[hlds]

If I remember right,
Setting it to 1 excludes the first player, and setting it to 2 will block
everyone but the steam group. Try that.

> I don't get it i got sv_steamgroup_exclusive set to 1 but still people who
> are not part of our group can still joined the server. How exactly does it
> work, excluse to the first player or exclusive to players from a group
> even
> when a game is running. We really want our servers to be closed to anyone
> but our steam community members.
>
> 2008/11/16 Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>> run
>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>
>> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>> looping
>> state
>> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>> indefinitely
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Formologic23]

Yes, I have the same issue.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

Anyone else finding that when using direct connect/steam groups server 
function,  the lobby only stays open for a few seconds before loading 
the game?  It's bloody inconvenient.

AnAkIn . wrote:
> And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
> connect opens a lobby.
>
> 2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>>
>> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
>> lobby, may not connect directly.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...
>>>
>>> Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>   
 is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?

 For example:

 sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"

 or

 sv_steamgroup "1234"
 sv_steamgroup "5678"
 sv_steamgroup "7652"
 sv_steamgroup "8643"

 Regard,

 Patrick

 On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>   
>>> run
>>>   
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>   
>>> looping
>>>   
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>   
>>> indefinitely
>>>   
> Jason
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[hlds]

I beleive that was done on purpose so that every server is joinable,
because there were issues with that.

> Yes, I have the same issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>
> Anyone else finding that when using direct connect/steam groups server
> function,  the lobby only stays open for a few seconds before loading
> the game?  It's bloody inconvenient.
>
> AnAkIn . wrote:
>> And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
>> connect opens a lobby.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>>>
>>> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>>>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
>>> lobby, may not connect directly.
>>>
>>> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>>>


 
 From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

 I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...

 Patrick Shelley wrote:

> is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
>
> For example:
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
>
> or
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234"
> sv_steamgroup "5678"
> sv_steamgroup "7652"
> sv_steamgroup "8643"
>
> Regard,
>
> Patrick
>
> On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.
>> Please
>>
 run

>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>
>> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>>
 looping

>> state
>> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>>
 indefinitely

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Re: [hlds] L4D demo windows server keep change map then crash

[Cc2iscooL]

Remove sv_unreserve from your server config.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:00 AM, raydan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i open 1 dods, and 3 L4D demo in my windows 2003 server
>  after player join server and left, 2 L4D server keep change map, it never
> stop!
> i need to shutdown the server manually
>
> also i open 2 L4D demo in windows xp, one server kepp change map, same as
> windows 2003 server
>
> after a few hours, l4d_demo folder create hundred *mdmp files. i already
> use
> -verify_all to check all file.
>
> what happening?
>
>
>  / windows 2003 server setting /
>
> -console -game dod +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27015 +map dod_anzio
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27018 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  -port 27019 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27016 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> hostname "name"
> rcon_password "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> mp_disable_autokick 1
> sv_allow_wait_command 0
> sv_alltalk 1
> sv_alternateticks 0
> sv_cheats 0
> sv_clearhinthistory 0
> sv_consistency 1
> sv_downloadurl ""
> sv_pausable 0
> sv_lan 0
> sv_region 4
> sv_maxcmdrate 100
> z_difficulty Impossible
> sv_unreserve
>
> / windows 2003 server setting /
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Re: [hlds] L4D demo windows server keep change map then crash

[Robert Whelan]

No longer an issue really...

15:33:28 sv_unreserve
15:33:28 Unknown command "sv_unreserve"





From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:22:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D demo windows server keep change map then crash

Remove sv_unreserve from your server config.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:00 AM, raydan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i open 1 dods, and 3 L4D demo in my windows 2003 server
>  after player join server and left, 2 L4D server keep change map, it never
> stop!
> i need to shutdown the server manually
>
> also i open 2 L4D demo in windows xp, one server kepp change map, same as
> windows 2003 server
>
> after a few hours, l4d_demo folder create hundred *mdmp files. i already
> use
> -verify_all to check all file.
>
> what happening?
>
>
>  / windows 2003 server setting /
>
> -console -game dod +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27015 +map dod_anzio
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27018 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  -port 27019 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> -console -game left4dead +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -port 27016 +map
> l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment
>
> hostname "name"
> rcon_password "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> mp_disable_autokick 1
> sv_allow_wait_command 0
> sv_alltalk 1
> sv_alternateticks 0
> sv_cheats 0
> sv_clearhinthistory 0
> sv_consistency 1
> sv_downloadurl ""
> sv_pausable 0
> sv_lan 0
> sv_region 4
> sv_maxcmdrate 100
> z_difficulty Impossible
> sv_unreserve
>
> / windows 2003 server setting /
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Steve]

Are you running SourceMod?

Alex Smith wrote:
> Sorry I didn't mention that on my first post.
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> I am running a Counter-Strike source server.  Not Left 4 Dead.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Can't wait for a sourcemod update, "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" is clearly
>>> not
>>> working, and i  don't see the point of aking the server visible once
>>> omeone
>>> join. The purpose of linking a server to a community is to allow people to
>>> play together if anyone can join and take a community member place that's
>>> just useless. I relly hope it will be exclusive before a game is launch
>>> and
>>> after. And a least that we will be able to create lobby before immediately
>>> joining the server. has i described in another thread.
>>>
>>> 2008/11/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>   
 As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or some
 other game?
 If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you can
 
>>> set
>>>   
 sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you
 
>>> can
>>>   
 get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
 sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your
 
>>> server
>>>   
 appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at
 
>>> least
>>>   
 one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature
 
>>> isn't
>>>   
 completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
 If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The bad
 news
 is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any
 
>>> number
>>>   
 of
 third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)

 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
>
> How do you configure the server to only accept connections from people
> in
> this Steam community?
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
>> 
> want to
>   
>> be able to join your server.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
>>
>> Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
>> 
> admin
>   
>> system is released.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
>>>   
> know
>   
>> about
>> 
>>> sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
>>>   
> IDs
>   
>>> similar
>>> to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
>>>   
> don't
>   
>> have
>> 
>>> to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
>>>   
> which
>   
>> in
>> 
>>> my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
>>>   
> that
>   
>> exist
>> 
>>> that can do this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Alex Smith
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[J T]

Either way, if you're having issues that you can't see to figure out. Start
the server without any configuration with no command line options
and one by one add command line options and then configuration.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:14 AM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's not what it does, someone posted that earlier. It's just a
> command that you would enter normally during a game, not a variable.
>
> Jason wrote:
> > I do have sv_unreserve in the server.cfg but that is so that people can
> join mid-game?
> >
> > Or has this been changed?
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Re: [hlds] Server white-list?

[Alex Smith]

Just plain old srcds.  I'll take a look into SourceMod when I get back home.

Thanks

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Are you running SourceMod?
>
> Alex Smith wrote:
> > Sorry I didn't mention that on my first post.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I am running a Counter-Strike source server.  Not Left 4 Dead.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Can't wait for a sourcemod update, "sv_steamgroup_exclusive" is clearly
> >>> not
> >>> working, and i  don't see the point of aking the server visible once
> >>> omeone
> >>> join. The purpose of linking a server to a community is to allow people
> to
> >>> play together if anyone can join and take a community member place
> that's
> >>> just useless. I relly hope it will be exclusive before a game is launch
> >>> and
> >>> after. And a least that we will be able to create lobby before
> immediately
> >>> joining the server. has i described in another thread.
> >>>
> >>> 2008/11/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>
>  As it's not been made explicit: are you talking about left4dead or
> some
>  other game?
>  If it's left4dead, which doesn't have 3rd party admin mods yet, you
> can
> 
> >>> set
> >>>
>  sv_steamgroup to the value of a steamgroup you control access to (you
> 
> >>> can
> >>>
>  get the group ip from the admin page on steam community) and set
>  sv_steamgroup_exclusive to 1.  Setting exclusive _should_ stop your
> 
> >>> server
> >>>
>  appearing if it's empty and you're not in the steam group.  Once at
> 
> >>> least
> >>>
>  one player has joined, the server is visible to all, and this feature
> 
> >>> isn't
> >>>
>  completely implemented yet, so exclusivity isn't guaranteed.
>  If you're not using left4dead, there's bad news and good news.  The
> bad
>  news
>  is that that feature doesn't exist, the good news is there are any
> 
> >>> number
> >>>
>  of
>  third party admin mods that will do it for you. :)
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> > Sent: 16 November 2008 16:14
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> >
> > How do you configure the server to only accept connections from
> people
> > in
> > this Steam community?
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Just create a locked steamcommunity group and only invite those you
> >>
> > want to
> >
> >> be able to join your server.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flubber
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:55 AM
> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server white-list?
> >>
> >> Maybe wait for a slot reserved once sourcemod or some other real
> >>
> > admin
> >
> >> system is released.
> >>
> >> 2008/11/16 Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to configure a server with a white list.  Yes, I
> >>>
> > know
> >
> >> about
> >>
> >>> sv_password.  But, I would prefer to just create a list of steam-
> >>>
> > IDs
> >
> >>> similar
> >>> to the ban list, of users that are allowed to join the server. I
> >>>
> > don't
> >
> >> have
> >>
> >>> to worry about my server password being leaked with a white list,
> >>>
> > which
> >
> >> in
> >>
> >>> my opinion makes it easier to manage my private servers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I assume that srcds alone cannot do this.  Is there any plug-in
> >>>
> > that
> >
> >> exist
> >>
> >>> that can do this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Alex Smith
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo - better network since update

[Kevin Ottalini]

I'm seeing a very good improvement in network usage since the last update.

Two players are showing peaks of (stats):
   IN:   6000
OUT: 12000

where before the OUT was running peaks around 2



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[hlds] CEngineTrace::TraceRay is tracing against NaN

[Tony Paloma]

Saw an interesting message in the console just now.

***
***
***
***
REPORT THIS! CEngineTrace::TraceRay is tracing against NaN! (1 || 0 || 0 ||
0 )
***
***
***
***
witch(P11CBaseEntity) thinking for 20.75 ms!!!

I don't know what was going on as I wasn't in game.


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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Tony Paloma]

I think that's the intention. You are direct connecting to the server after
all. Anybody else can direct connect using the connect command after you
just fine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

Anyone else finding that when using direct connect/steam groups server 
function,  the lobby only stays open for a few seconds before loading 
the game?  It's bloody inconvenient.

AnAkIn . wrote:
> And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
> connect opens a lobby.
>
> 2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>>
>> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
>> lobby, may not connect directly.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...
>>>
>>> Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>   
 is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?

 For example:

 sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"

 or

 sv_steamgroup "1234"
 sv_steamgroup "5678"
 sv_steamgroup "7652"
 sv_steamgroup "8643"

 Regard,

 Patrick

 On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>   
>>> run
>>>   
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>   
>>> looping
>>>   
> state
> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>   
>>> indefinitely
>>>   
> Jason
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[Kitteny Berk]

If it was intended, I'd expect no lobby, or a functional one,  not a 
barely a lobby that doesn't serve any purpose,  remember, this applies 
on joining one of my group's servers, not just on a standard manual DC, 
so it's the same as every client in every community will see when they 
join a community server.  doesn't really strike me as ideal.

I'd like to see a lobby when you connect from the group server list, so 
people can set a game up before it starts, rather than having to run a 
few votes, just to get the game they intended to play.


Also, it seems servers with sv_password set don't show in the group 
server list, so there's no functional way to protect them and have 
servers that are *only* joinable by my community,  while not having to 
teach people how to open the console and direct connect manually.

I'm personally really liking the direction valve are taking with this, 
but it needs refining a bit to be functional enough to replace a server 
browser.

Tony Paloma wrote:
> I think that's the intention. You are direct connecting to the server after
> all. Anybody else can direct connect using the connect command after you
> just fine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available
>
> Anyone else finding that when using direct connect/steam groups server 
> function,  the lobby only stays open for a few seconds before loading 
> the game?  It's bloody inconvenient.
>
> AnAkIn . wrote:
>   
>> And even with it set to 1, you can still direct connect because direct
>> connect opens a lobby.
>>
>> 2008/11/16 AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> sv_allow_lobby_connect_only is back, is this normal?
>>>
>>> 20:39:27 "sv_allow_lobby_connect_only" = "1"
>>>   - If set, players may only join this server from matchmaking
>>> lobby, may not connect directly.
>>>
>>> 2008/11/16 DontWannaName! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> I already asked a while ago. Im sure they are still working on it.
>>> 
>>>   
 
 From: Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:12:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

 I'm still waiting to hear an answer on this too...

 Patrick Shelley wrote:
   
 
> is there suppport for multiple steam groups in sv_steamgroup ?
>
> For example:
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234,5678,6543"
>
> or
>
> sv_steamgroup "1234"
> sv_steamgroup "5678"
> sv_steamgroup "7652"
> sv_steamgroup "8643"
>
> Regard,
>
> Patrick
>
> On 11/16/08, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>   
>> A required update for the Left 4 Dead Demo has been released.  Please
>>   
>> 
 run
   
 
>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>
>> - Fixed a bug where the connection to a server would get stuck in a
>>   
>> 
 looping
   
 
>> state
>> - Made sv_steamgroup_exclusive not connect to matchmaking. Removed
>> sv_unreserve, private servers should sv_steamgroup_exclusive now
>> - Improved the speed in finding a game lobby
>> - Fixed a bug that could cause you to search for a game lobby
>>   
>> 
 indefinitely
   
 
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>>
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[hlds] How do servers handle checksum mismatch?

[Barc0de_]

I ve been modelling for awhile now, and i kept telling all the download users 
that they can modify the textures of the models i made. 

so now, it comes to my concern that if a user/mapper modify the texture(causing 
the texture into a different size, different checksum). How well does server or 
client handle this? 

This will be the same scenario as a player connecting to server A. Then 
connecting to server B which has the same name of the map but different 
version. Will the player keep downloading the current map everytime when he 
connects to different server? 

thanks for your patience, i appreciate any replies..

Question passed on by Kat_Fish, original question @ 
http://www.fpsbanana.com/threads/138989?1

Note: Personally I am not even sure what he is talking about, it sounds just 
like custom textures which would be perfectly fine if modified.
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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

[Anthony E. Prandi]

Now see, the funny thing is, I have tryed unsubscribing twice, using the 
unsubscribe link, from both the lists, and have yet to receive my 
"confirmation e-mail" it was to have sent, so maybe its NOT that easy... 



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Re: [hlds] remove me from your list please

[J T]

hlds  list run by
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at valvesoftware.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Should have someone that can assist you.

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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Update Available

[John McBroom]

There's a bug in the current version, if you type +lobby and click
start game, it will force everyone back to the start of the level

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Re: [hlds] How do servers handle checksum mismatch?

[bl4nk]

I'm pretty sure that unless a server is pure (without the proper 
whitelist) or enforces consistency that custom models and such are fine. 
Maps are different however; they're required to be the same. The server 
will check if the client has the map, and if they do, check the checksum 
against their map. If it's not the same, they'll be kicked with a 
message telling them that they're map differs from the server's.

Barc0de_ wrote:
> I ve been modelling for awhile now, and i kept telling all the download users 
> that they can modify the textures of the models i made. 
>
> so now, it comes to my concern that if a user/mapper modify the 
> texture(causing the texture into a different size, different checksum). How 
> well does server or client handle this? 
>
> This will be the same scenario as a player connecting to server A. Then 
> connecting to server B which has the same name of the map but different 
> version. Will the player keep downloading the current map everytime when he 
> connects to different server? 
>
> thanks for your patience, i appreciate any replies..
>
> Question passed on by Kat_Fish, original question @ 
> http://www.fpsbanana.com/threads/138989?1
>
> Note: Personally I am not even sure what he is talking about, it sounds just 
> like custom textures which would be perfectly fine if modified.
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