Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked?
So much for getting this fixed in a timely fashion, it's still borked! Seems the only thing they were intrested in addressing was the damn gift drop frequency! It's also been reported that if the server has a player connected, others trying to join get a message that it's not a joinable game. Anyways... no use ranting over the holiday, Merry Christmas! ;) From: Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com To: Richard Eid richard@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? Thx for the 411 ;) From: Richard Eid richard@gmail.com To: Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? https://twitter.com/#!/l4ddev/statuses/148477338500341760 -Richard Eid On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com wrote: Hrrrm... afaik Fridays update http://store.steampowered.com/news/7036/ broke the steamgroup servers feature for L4D2. It never returns any of our servers now. Anyone else? L4D seems to be working fine though L4D2 isn't. I'm guessing the new function added broke it? - Added blocklist functionality to Left 4 Dead 2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy rok...@fusionrp.net wrote: ** VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - *From:* Administrator ad...@crazyfreakgamers.com *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy rok...@fusionrp.net wrote: ** VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - *From:* Administrator ad...@crazyfreakgamers.com *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players miniadmin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. From: E. Olsen ceo.eol...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy rok...@fusionrp.net wrote: VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's just a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror. Merry Christmas all, Mike _ From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players miniadmin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. _ From: E. Olsen ceo.eol...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy rok...@fusionrp.net wrote: VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator mailto:ad...@crazyfreakgamers.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
Well, make it a requirement that there is at least 1 game paid of +10 dollars to use F2P games... then they have to buy a game to play. (and yes, exclude humble bundle ones). No, not gifted or traded, must be a purchase on the account. and inb4, Happy Christmas everybody. From: Team BOOM! teamb...@comcast.net To: 'Mart-Jan Reeuwijk' mreeu...@yahoo.com; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:06 Subject: RE: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's just a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror. Merry Christmas all, Mike From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players miniadmin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. From: E. Olsen ceo.eol...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hellit's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, Calvin Judy rok...@fusionrp.net wrote: VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. - Original Message - From: Administrator To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: Another approach can be to give those female players miniadmin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have the misfortune of joining it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
Kicking all F2P isn't an option in my opinion, you'd be removing an entire playerbase over a few problem individuals. I also question the choice to hand out admin to players that are or claim to be female. The chance for abuse is just too high with an unknown individual; by the time anything could be done about a player abusing their mini-admin, it would have meant an ill experience for many players. I have to agree with E. Olson, valve needs something in place to prevent the creation of massive numbers of F2P accounts, I'm honestly surprised they don't already have something. When F2P was announced valve assured us that it would not mean a rise in cheaters. Quite frankly I believe they're not holding up their end of the bargan. I have no quarrel with the VAC system, it sucks that it won't do anything about cheaters right off the bat, but it's good that it prevents programmers from figuring out something is VAC detectable before some of their users are banned. Then you look back and see that TF2 is now F2P, anyone can make as many accounts as they wish, and you have to wonder what the point of having VAC is without a complimentary system to keep banned players off. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report
I'd agree that I'm a nutter, but not on this case. the female in question was the spouse of one of the admins and we review all our bans anyways. From: hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 23:47 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine Report 24/12/2011 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk sagt: Another approach can be to give those female players miniadmin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. Giving special rights to people on your server just because they are a female and can't ignore people herself? You're a bloody nutter! Please post your server name so I may add it to my blacklist and never have the misfortune of joining it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
25/12/2011 Nathanael Havez sagt: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Relevant to server administration. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
That reminds me, to put a add on the server to wish players a merry xmass... thnx. From: hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 1:22 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! 25/12/2011 Nathanael Havez sagt: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Relevant to server administration. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Ignore the Scrooges. Christmas greetings well received here and the same to all! And a happy new year too. May the new year bring you all many new players! On 25 Dec 2011, at 00:27, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk mreeu...@yahoo.com wrote: That reminds me, to put a add on the server to wish players a merry xmass... thnx. -- *From:* hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011, 1:22 *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! 25/12/2011 Nathanael Havez sagt: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Relevant to server administration. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Quote... From: James Botting Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:29 AM To: Mart-Jan Reeuwijk ; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Ignore the Scrooges. Christmas greetings well received here and the same to all! And a happy new year too. May the new year bring you all many new players! On 25 Dec 2011, at 00:27, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk mreeu...@yahoo.com wrote: That reminds me, to put a add on the server to wish players a merry xmass... thnx. From: hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 1:22 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! 25/12/2011 Nathanael Havez sagt: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Relevant to server administration. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Relevant to server administrators :D Merry Christmas folks -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nathanael Havez Sent: 24 December 2011 23:35 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked?
Actually, there was an odd performance issue that was affecting a lot of L4D2 players that I believe they wanted to focus on first. The issue ended up being caused by the Steam client, and a client beta is being tested right now. The player avatars not showing really don't affect the game like this performance issue did so the perf issue would take priority. -Richard Eid On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com wrote: So much for getting this fixed in a timely fashion, it's still borked! Seems the only thing they were intrested in addressing was the damn gift drop frequency! It's also been reported that if the server has a player connected, others trying to join get a message that it's not a joinable game. Anyways... no use ranting over the holiday, Merry Christmas! ;) *From:* Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com *To:* Richard Eid richard@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2011 3:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? Thx for the 411 ;) *From:* Richard Eid richard@gmail.com *To:* Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2011 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? https://twitter.com/#!/l4ddev/statuses/148477338500341760 -Richard Eid On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.comwrote: Hrrrm... afaik Fridays update http://store.steampowered.com/news/7036/ broke the steamgroup servers feature for L4D2. It never returns any of our servers now. Anyone else? L4D seems to be working fine though L4D2 isn't. I'm guessing the new function added broke it? - Added blocklist functionality to Left 4 Dead 2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked?
Err...the L4D2 steamgroups. The player avatars not showing is also a result of this same issue. -Richard Eid On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Richard Eid richard@gmail.com wrote: Actually, there was an odd performance issue that was affecting a lot of L4D2 players that I believe they wanted to focus on first. The issue ended up being caused by the Steam client, and a client beta is being tested right now. The player avatars not showing really don't affect the game like this performance issue did so the perf issue would take priority. -Richard Eid On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.comwrote: So much for getting this fixed in a timely fashion, it's still borked! Seems the only thing they were intrested in addressing was the damn gift drop frequency! It's also been reported that if the server has a player connected, others trying to join get a message that it's not a joinable game. Anyways... no use ranting over the holiday, Merry Christmas! ;) *From:* Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com *To:* Richard Eid richard@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2011 3:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? Thx for the 411 ;) *From:* Richard Eid richard@gmail.com *To:* Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2011 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [hlds] L4D2 Steamgroups Borked? https://twitter.com/#!/l4ddev/statuses/148477338500341760 -Richard Eid On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.comwrote: Hrrrm... afaik Fridays update http://store.steampowered.com/news/7036/ broke the steamgroup servers feature for L4D2. It never returns any of our servers now. Anyone else? L4D seems to be working fine though L4D2 isn't. I'm guessing the new function added broke it? - Added blocklist functionality to Left 4 Dead 2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.comwrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Sounds like someone didn't get their presents... On 2011/12/25 04:10, Jonah Hirsch wrote: I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com mailto:saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com mailto:na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonah Hirsch *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! ** ** I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. ** ** /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ** ** ** ** Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Aw c'mon guys, it's all in good fun. Happy holidays to all. :D On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com wrote: I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonah Hirsch *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! ** ** I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. ** ** /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ** ** ** ** Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Agreed.. you others are pathetic On 25/12/2011, at 4:37 PM, Tyler Davies wrote: Aw c'mon guys, it's all in good fun. Happy holidays to all. :D On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com wrote: I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
I started this just for to wish something good, and now here comes the religion war... That's just stupid. :-/ Natha Le 25 déc. 2011 à 04:43, Flickshot Tech a écrit : Agreed.. you others are pathetic On 25/12/2011, at 4:37 PM, Tyler Davies wrote: Aw c'mon guys, it's all in good fun. Happy holidays to all. :D On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com wrote: I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
They're just being sarcastic, which is why the guy put /s under his message... Merry Smissmas and a happy new year everyone! From: Flickshot Tech t...@flickshot.co.nz To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 at 10:43 pm Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Agreed.. you others are pathetic On 25/12/2011, at 4:37 PM, Tyler Davies wrote:Aw c'mon guys, it's all in good fun. Happy holidays to all. :D On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com wrote: I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s ---Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote:Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards,Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Didn't see that detail, now I understand everything! Natha Le 25 déc. 2011 à 04:50, James D a écrit : They're just being sarcastic, which is why the guy put /s under his message... Merry Smissmas and a happy new year everyone! From: Flickshot Tech t...@flickshot.co.nz To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 at 10:43 pm Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Agreed.. you others are pathetic On 25/12/2011, at 4:37 PM, Tyler Davies wrote: Aw c'mon guys, it's all in good fun. Happy holidays to all. :D On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com wrote: I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. From: zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. _ From: zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Happy Holidays. Don't be a scrooge. Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Mart-Jan Reeuwijk *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! ** ** Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. -- *From:* zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote:*** * yeah I worship satin too *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonah Hirsch *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Humbug. Nah, kidding, Merry Christmas to everyone to participates, and Happy Holidays to those who don't :) From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:37:38 -0800 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays. Don't be a scrooge.Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. From: zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist.On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
You worship fabric? On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Seriously. Merry Christmas to all! And Happy Holidays to those that don't observe Christmas or otherwise don't want to hear it. Alas, what happened to the good old days when we could do something as simple as wishing others MC on this mailing list without the list nazis getting their noses pushed out of shape? On 12/24/2011 08:37 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: Happy Holidays. Don't be a scrooge. Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com mailto:essential...@bigpond.com wrote: I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues *From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Mart-Jan Reeuwijk *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. *From:*zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com mailto:drgnz...@gmail.com *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com mailto:essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too *From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonah Hirsch *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com mailto:saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com mailto:na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too. And happy holidays to everyone who has other traditions! And if this is what we got in 2011 with the list, imagine what 2012 will be. On 12/25/2011 12:11 AM, Ook wrote: Seriously. Merry Christmas to all! And Happy Holidays to those that don't observe Christmas or otherwise don't want to hear it. Alas, what happened to the good old days when we could do something as simple as wishing others MC on this mailing list without the list nazis getting their noses pushed out of shape? On 12/24/2011 08:37 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: Happy Holidays. Don't be a scrooge. Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us "pagans" used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Everyone shut the fuck up and be happy. On 25 Dec 2011, at 00:11, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote: Seriously. Merry Christmas to all! And Happy Holidays to those that don't observe Christmas or otherwise don't want to hear it. Alas, what happened to the good old days when we could do something as simple as wishing others MC on this mailing list without the list nazis getting their noses pushed out of shape? On 12/24/2011 08:37 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: Happy Holidays. Don't be a scrooge. Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: I can't believe this has to be said, Everyone should STFU about religion and politics on this thread. It's for Steam HLDS related issues From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Atheist too, but then I still can be able to convey the message to wish for everybody a Merry Xmass? Its not about christ anyway, its some pagan ritual of like couple thousand year ago that us pagans used to have, 2 weeks of celebrations before turning to work again, before we where mandatory converted into christians. Oh, we had some rituals... lets put those in some biblical context... so we move the village tree from the outside into our houses, let them have a small stable with child Jesus in it and then its sanctioned... and that 2 weeks, let cut off every time a day or so, so it gets shortened to a day. But Jesus was actually born somewhere in spring if one would believe the scientist who researched the whole bunch, for the population count Maria was traveling for was then, not in winter. and oops, where off a couple years as well... should be like 2006 right now, or 2015, nobody knows exactly. The Apostles didn't learn to write till 65 AD or some. Well, back to the pagan rite, it was mostly to celebrate the midwinter turn, as from now the days become longer (on northern half of the world anyway). Yeah, yeah, that was the 21st... more influence from those Christian church. All of the sudden, the whole Christmas isn't about Christ, or about pagan rites or w/e. Its all make-believe. The wishes? its just wishing ppl to have a good time during those days. Thats bout it. If you feel offended by it, one should get some dose of humor for those ppl that in the past couldn't seem to get it right. so far we got: - Birth of christ: off by at least 3 months - pagan winter solstice rite, off for bout 4 days. - ehm? whats left? getting together and having a good time. Now, again: Merry Christmas And if you have read above, you know I dont mean it offending. I just wish you a good time for a specific time period. Thats bout it. You reading more into it is more you then anything else. /me hides for all those Christians that didn't read up their rituals. From: zach isaac drgnz...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011, 4:13 Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I am offensive and I find this atheist. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Ant essential...@bigpond.com wrote: yeah I worship satin too From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! I don't celebrate christmas. this is highly offensive to me. You should feel bad, pushing your religion on everyone. /s --- Jonah Hirsch On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas Natha and all! Hope you all enjoy the holidays, and a happy new year. On Saturday, December 24, 2011, Nathanael Havez na...@me.com wrote: Merry Christmas to all of the users of the HLDS Mailing List! Natha ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
25/12/2011 Evan McClane sagt: Everyone shut the fuck up and be happy. Better solution: don't post completely offtopic garbage to the mailing list and you will have no one complaining about it. No one wants to read this in their mailbox, except lonely people with no real-life family or friends to celebrate it with. This is a technical mailing list; we don't want to discuss holidays or other irrelevant garbage that people constantly post that is not relevant to server administration or the hlds update tool. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Don't be such a Grinch Hasser. http://ismsleeperwrong.com/ Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM, hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com wrote: 25/12/2011 Evan McClane sagt: Everyone shut the fuck up and be happy. Better solution: don't post completely offtopic garbage to the mailing list and you will have no one complaining about it. No one wants to read this in their mailbox, except lonely people with no real-life family or friends to celebrate it with. This is a technical mailing list; we don't want to discuss holidays or other irrelevant garbage that people constantly post that is not relevant to server administration or the hlds update tool. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
http://superherouniverse.com/wallpaper/artists/mike/images/new/scrooge.jpg It's christmas Hasser, where's your holiday spirit? From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:44:13 -0800 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas! Don't be such a Grinch Hasser. http://ismsleeperwrong.com/ Kyle. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM, hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com wrote: 25/12/2011 Evan McClane sagt: Everyone shut the fuck up and be happy. Better solution: don't post completely offtopic garbage to the mailing list and you will have no one complaining about it. No one wants to read this in their mailbox, except lonely people with no real-life family or friends to celebrate it with. This is a technical mailing list; we don't want to discuss holidays or other irrelevant garbage that people constantly post that is not relevant to server administration or the hlds update tool. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Santa is old hat. Kwanzaa Bot for president. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas!
Actually, those with no real family or friends are statistically more likely to avoid celebrating the holiday ;-) Personally I think it's good to see some season cheer! Merry Christmas all and thank you to those that give their time and expertise to this list... Long time lurkers like myself have learnt a lot over the years (and some of it was even server related). Naiboss hasser css hasserva...@gmail.com wrote: 25/12/2011 Evan McClane sagt: Everyone shut the fuck up and be happy. Better solution: don't post completely offtopic garbage to the mailing list and you will have no one complaining about it. No one wants to read this in their mailbox, except lonely people with no real-life family or friends to celebrate it with. This is a technical mailing list; we don't want to discuss holidays or other irrelevant garbage that people constantly post that is not relevant to server administration or the hlds update tool. _ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
