[hlds] Mandatory TF2 update coming
We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. We should have it ready soon. -Eric ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
We've released a mandatory TF2 update. The notes for the update are below. The new version is 2085489. -Eric -- - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers - Prevent game servers from redirecting players to alternate servers when players connect through quickplay - Fixed the show_htmlpage command bypassing the cl_disablehtmlmotd convar on the client - Fixed the loading screen not rendering correctly for Mac clients - Fixed Asian fonts not rendering correctly for Linux clients - Fixed a client crash related to Killstreak effects - Fixed a client crash caused by trying to load an invalid URL in the MOTD - Fixed a server crash related to screen fades - Fixed color correction being based off the wrong player's origin in multiplayer games - Fixed the Heavy's fists not showing the Killstreak effects - Fixed The War on Smissmas Battle Socks hiding the Soldier's grenades - Fixed the Meet the Medic taunt not releasing doves during the taunt - Fixed HUD elements not drawing correctly after beginning to record a demo - Fixed the Short Circuit particles not always being removed on player death - Fixed an exploit where players could run the MVM_Revive_Response, MVM_Respec, and use_action_slot_item commands on behalf of other players - Updated the Unidentified Following Object, Carrion Companion, and Chucklenuts so they can get assists in Pyrovision - Updated the Festive Gloves of Running Urgently to include a blue material when equipped by the Blue team - Updated The Brainiac Hairpiece so it can be equipped with items like The Grizzled Growth and added a no helmet style - Updated The Map Maker's Medallion so name/description tags can be applied to it - Updated the Short Circuit to use the Engineer's melee taunt - Updated The Scotsman's Skullcutter to use the Demoman's secondary taunt - Updated The TF2VRH and The Virtual Viewfinder so they can be equipped with hats - Added UGC Highlander Season 11 and 6vs6 Season 13 medals - Updated the localization files - Updated pl_upward - Fixed being able to construct buildings in the skybox - Updated Mann vs. Machine - Fixed the bots not being able to equip multiple cosmetic items - Fixed Scout bots not playing the correct animation when stunned with the Sandman - Fixed not being able to reset the countdown timer if a player disconnects while Ready - Updated the countdown logic to un-Ready a team if someone quits during the final 10 seconds or disconnects while everyone else is Ready - Updated MvM to un-ready a team if everyone but the disconnecting player was ready - Updated mvm_rottenburg - Improved collision near barricade to reduce players getting stuck - Fixed credits not always being collected when they fall into the barricade - Updated mvm_mannhattan - Fixed being able to construct buildings inside the respawn room - Fixed a material problem near the hatch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
Two things I notice wrong with your response: A: That is a hell of a knee-jerk reaction and B: How does Valve get more cash for people playing on their servers? Valve servers have no ads. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.comwrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
That's why it's called an 'option', you fucking mongoloid. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.comwrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
It looks like that community's servers were already shutting down due to admin burnout. Nothing related to this in any way. Maybe just an attempt to start shit. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ragorism ragor...@gmail.com wrote: That's why it's called an 'option', you fucking mongoloid. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.comwrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Tee hee hee hee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
Well, we have been losing new traffic to our servers since quickplay started and this will just make things worse. When TF2 first started, this game was supported by game sales but folks had to have a place to play and so we gave them one and at no cost to Valve. Then they switched to F2P and they started making money off of selling virtual items and we supported them. We created trading servers or places in our websites devoted to buying, trading, and selling. Then they started asking the community for more ideas (at least this time they started paying the artist for the use of the item/map/etc) and the private servers continued to support that all the while keeping a steady stream of new people to TF2 flowing through their stores. Did we complain? Heck no. We continued to support them. Then, to keep more new people flowing into the stores, they tried to keep all the game play experiences the same so it wouldn't scare people away so they created quickplay and if you wanted your server to participate, then you had to conform to using specific maps and keeping it vanilla, otherwise you risked not having any new people find you. Why would a new player even look at the server list when they can just click a button and start playing? Of course, how quickplay worked was all speculation. Valve said get some folks to log on and then more would follow. Sometimes this would work and sometimes it would not. During peak playing times, we would have 8-10 people on there trying to fill with no luck. We would look up our rating and it was always positive so what gives? Now Valve is concerned that even with quickplay, our servers are still not dull enough and they might scare people away so they have been adding more and more Valve servers to the mix until now they think they have enough bandwidth to handle the majority. Tell me. if you just downloaded this game and you were new, why would you NOT pick a Valve server through quickplay. So, when I said, Valve, enjoy your cash, that is what I meant. And yes, I know this is business. And yes I know they are trying to do what's right. but it still sucks for those of us who have been supporting this game since the game came out. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jethro Seabridge Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released Two things I notice wrong with your response: A: That is a hell of a knee-jerk reaction and B: How does Valve get more cash for people playing on their servers? Valve servers have no ads. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.com mailto:syate...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released
I kind of saw this coming when quick play was first announced. By players being able to opt only for official Valve servers, it gives Valve another way to placate complaints from players (or there parental-units) about inappropriate content, behavior etc. They are pretty-much guaranteed vanilla and about as family-friendly as their games are capable of being - because they are the servers that Valve maintains themselves. I definitely sympathize that it will in the short term mean that as more regular players stop playing and the population gets replaced by more noob's most of those noob's will at least start-out (maybe by default) only playing on vanilla servers with no customization or intrigue at all. So, while I don't particular LIKE it, I totally understand where Valve is coming from. I run game servers that are specifically / intentionally not family friendly (as it says in the MOTD and the audio-on-join message). So, kids showing-up accidentally on my servers is not particularly desirable. But, then again, I opt-out of quick play anyway. So, in theory they shouldn't be there any way. Sadly, some communities are going to survive this evolutionary bottle-neck, and others likely will not. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
It's called option to make people who can't see what they are doing to go duh, okay. Seriously. how many new players do you think would go to a non-valve server? If I were new, I would go right to quickplay and then choose Valve servers. What percentage would pick a non-Valve server? From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ragorism Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:21 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released That's why it's called an 'option', you fucking mongoloid. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.com mailto:syate...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released
The main problem I heard from quickplay was that you wouldn't get these good community servers, but instead you'd get tweaked out nightteam and random mods and shit from it. I tried it one night and got shunted to Stop That Tank! As far removed from the standard TF2 experience as can possibly be, due to server admin shenangians. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Weasels Lair wea...@weaselslair.comwrote: I kind of saw this coming when quick play was first announced. By players being able to opt only for official Valve servers, it gives Valve another way to placate complaints from players (or there parental-units) about inappropriate content, behavior etc. They are pretty-much guaranteed vanilla and about as family-friendly as their games are capable of being - because they are the servers that Valve maintains themselves. I definitely sympathize that it will in the short term mean that as more regular players stop playing and the population gets replaced by more noob's most of those noob's will at least start-out (maybe by default) only playing on vanilla servers with no customization or intrigue at all. So, while I don't particular LIKE it, I totally understand where Valve is coming from. I run game servers that are specifically / intentionally not family friendly (as it says in the MOTD and the audio-on-join message). So, kids showing-up accidentally on my servers is not particularly desirable. But, then again, I opt-out of quick play anyway. So, in theory they shouldn't be there any way. Sadly, some communities are going to survive this evolutionary bottle-neck, and others likely will not. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Tee hee hee hee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
I am not trying to start shit. I am just stating my opinion. Quickplay has been killing our servers for a long time. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Lyrai Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released It looks like that community's servers were already shutting down due to admin burnout. Nothing related to this in any way. Maybe just an attempt to start shit. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Ragorism ragor...@gmail.com mailto:ragor...@gmail.com wrote: That's why it's called an 'option', you fucking mongoloid. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates syate...@cfl.rr.com mailto:syate...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Tee hee hee hee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
If you want to point fingers at anyone, point fingers at the owners of large server chains (ie Nighteam, saigns, WonkaGaming (are they even still around?), bets.tf, etc). Quickplay has probably been killing many other small servers as well before Valve introduced the official server option due to the fact that these chains literally crap out servers and smear it all over the planet. On 1/23/2014 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
No matter who we ultimately point fingers at in the end, it's heavily disappointing in any case that Valve chooses not to enforce the Policy of Truth and remove those types of servers from QuickPlay, as it should be doing. In the end, all this default option that only directs users to Valve servers does is force servers to fight for even smaller scraps of traffic, and the only communities that win are the mega-communities that have the 24/7 full servers that QuickPlay prioritizes. I can't say that I'm surprised, given that nobody from Valve has discussed or even acknowledged any of these topics being discussed on this mailing list, but nevertheless it's still disheartening. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:46 PM, wickedplayer494 wickedplayer...@gmail.comwrote: If you want to point fingers at anyone, point fingers at the owners of large server chains (ie Nighteam, saigns, WonkaGaming (are they even still around?), bets.tf, etc). Quickplay has probably been killing many other small servers as well before Valve introduced the official server option due to the fact that these chains literally crap out servers and smear it all over the planet. On 1/23/2014 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- thesupremecommander (Steamhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/thesupremecommander ) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released
What wickedplayer said. However unfortunate, server chains abused quickplay just to farm ad money, and in doing so they ruined the experience for many people. It really sucks that legitimate servers get punished, but what else could valve do? No matter what fix they valve could make, the server chain owners would just find new ways to exploit quickplay or even tf2 itself. Look at how bets.tf got around cl_disablehtmlmotd. On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:46 PM, wickedplayer494 wickedplayer...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to point fingers at anyone, point fingers at the owners of large server chains (ie Nighteam, saigns, WonkaGaming (are they even still around?), bets.tf, etc). Quickplay has probably been killing many other small servers as well before Valve introduced the official server option due to the fact that these chains literally crap out servers and smear it all over the planet. On 1/23/2014 8:08 PM, Stephen A. Yates wrote: Really? - Add quickplay option to only connect to official Valve servers We have been running Vanilla 24 player servers since the month after the launch of Orangebox. Valve did not seem to have an issue with us when we were helping to build the TF2 community. This should pretty much put an end to new players finding their way to our servers and community. Thanks Valve. Enjoy your cash. We will be closing our community down at the end of this month. Peace out. -SpikerNoob ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
