Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
The other person I was working on the map with made some really great visual changes, but unfortunately doesn't know squat about how to optimize a map so it it kinda ran like ass. He also chopped up the geometry in really stupid ways so trying to modify it is a pain. We have been going back now that both of us are no longer busy with other things, and I'm going to be fixing the known problems and adding some requested options to the plugin once I get L4D Survival stats working. On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 17:39 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > Yeah well.. LFD sucks. Totally not worth the money that my clan members > spent to buy the game for me. I hope LFD HL2 was worth their money. > > Hunted mod still alive? How are those maps coming along for it? I checked it > out a while ago... the maps were bare and the plugin had a few issues. > Nevertheless... it was fun :). > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:51 PM, msleeper wrote: > > > lol @ No responses to this. Talking about the other 99% of what I have > > done that is helpful, useful, or in otherwise a successful usage of time > > just isn't as cool I guess! Would you guys mind bringing up The Hunted > > Mod every week or so? That actually took time and effort. > > > > > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:46 +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote: > > > He also made the Left 4 Dead stats plugin and gave it away. What did > > > you do again? > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Phillip Vector > > wrote: > > > > Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper > > wrote: > > > >> Thank you for your continued uselessness. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > > > >>> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it > > in > > > >>> seconds. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to > > ban for > > > >>> > > this too now. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed > > achievement_earned > > > >>> > :(. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > > > >>> > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > > >>> > > > >wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. < > > mail...@ml86.de> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then > > just the > > > >>> > > > command > > > >>> > > > > > ;P > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole < > > didr...@gmail.com> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found > > cmd > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and > > use the > > > >>> > > item > > > >>> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received > > items. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players > > and also > > > >>> > > fun > > > >>> > > > > to > > > >>> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > > >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > >>> > > > archives, > > > >>> > > > > > please visit: > > > >>> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > > of > > > >>> > virus > > > >>> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Yeah well.. LFD sucks. Totally not worth the money that my clan members spent to buy the game for me. I hope LFD HL2 was worth their money. Hunted mod still alive? How are those maps coming along for it? I checked it out a while ago... the maps were bare and the plugin had a few issues. Nevertheless... it was fun :). On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:51 PM, msleeper wrote: > lol @ No responses to this. Talking about the other 99% of what I have > done that is helpful, useful, or in otherwise a successful usage of time > just isn't as cool I guess! Would you guys mind bringing up The Hunted > Mod every week or so? That actually took time and effort. > > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:46 +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote: > > He also made the Left 4 Dead stats plugin and gave it away. What did > > you do again? > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Phillip Vector > wrote: > > > Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper > wrote: > > >> Thank you for your continued uselessness. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > > >>> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it > in > > >>> seconds. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > >>> > > > >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to > ban for > > >>> > > this too now. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed > achievement_earned > > >>> > :(. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > > >>> > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > >>> > > > >wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > So it is an exploit? > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. < > mail...@ml86.de> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then > just the > > >>> > > > command > > >>> > > > > > ;P > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole < > didr...@gmail.com> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found > cmd > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and > use the > > >>> > > item > > >>> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received > items. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players > and also > > >>> > > fun > > >>> > > > > to > > >>> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > >>> > > > archives, > > >>> > > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > of > > >>> > virus > > >>> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > > >>> > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please > don´t spam > > >>> > :) > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > >>> > > archives, > > >>> > > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>> > archives, > > >>> > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > >
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Yes, "admin", it's very fun to have people flood it to lag or crash your server. 2009/5/26 msleeper > lol @ No responses to this. Talking about the other 99% of what I have > done that is helpful, useful, or in otherwise a successful usage of time > just isn't as cool I guess! Would you guys mind bringing up The Hunted > Mod every week or so? That actually took time and effort. > > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:46 +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote: > > He also made the Left 4 Dead stats plugin and gave it away. What did > > you do again? > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Phillip Vector > wrote: > > > Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper > wrote: > > >> Thank you for your continued uselessness. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > > >>> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it > in > > >>> seconds. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > >>> > > > >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to > ban for > > >>> > > this too now. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed > achievement_earned > > >>> > :(. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > > >>> > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > >>> > > > >wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > So it is an exploit? > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. < > mail...@ml86.de> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then > just the > > >>> > > > command > > >>> > > > > > ;P > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole < > didr...@gmail.com> > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found > cmd > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and > use the > > >>> > > item > > >>> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received > items. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players > and also > > >>> > > fun > > >>> > > > > to > > >>> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > >>> > > > archives, > > >>> > > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > of > > >>> > virus > > >>> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > > >>> > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please > don´t spam > > >>> > :) > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > >>> > > archives, > > >>> > > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > ___ > > >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>> > archives, > > >>> > > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > ___ > > >>> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> > > > please visit: > > >>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > __
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
lol @ No responses to this. Talking about the other 99% of what I have done that is helpful, useful, or in otherwise a successful usage of time just isn't as cool I guess! Would you guys mind bringing up The Hunted Mod every week or so? That actually took time and effort. On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:46 +0200, Donnie Newlove wrote: > He also made the Left 4 Dead stats plugin and gave it away. What did > you do again? > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Phillip Vector > wrote: > > Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper wrote: > >> Thank you for your continued uselessness. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > >>> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in > >>> seconds. > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: > >>> > >>> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban > >>> > > for > >>> > > this too now. > >>> > > > >>> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed > >>> > > achievement_earned > >>> > :(. > >>> > > > >>> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > >>> > robertsmi...@gmail.com > >>> > > > >wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > So it is an exploit? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just > >>> > > > > > > the > >>> > > > command > >>> > > > > > ;P > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use > >>> > > > > > >>> the > >>> > > item > >>> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received > >>> > > > > > >>> items. > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and > >>> > > > > > >>> also > >>> > > fun > >>> > > > > to > >>> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> > > > archives, > >>> > > > > > please visit: > >>> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > >>> > virus > >>> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > >>> > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam > >>> > :) > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > ___ > >>> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> > > archives, > >>> > > > > > please visit: > >>> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > ___ > >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> > archives, > >>> > > > > please visit: > >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > ___ > >>> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> > > > archives, > >>> > > > please visit: > >>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > > > > >>> > > ___ > >>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> > > please visit: > >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > > > >>> > ___ > >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences,
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
He also made the Left 4 Dead stats plugin and gave it away. What did you do again? On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Phillip Vector wrote: > Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper wrote: >> Thank you for your continued uselessness. >> >> >> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: >>> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in >>> seconds. >>> >>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: >>> >>> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban >>> > > for >>> > > this too now. >>> > > >>> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned >>> > :(. >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < >>> > robertsmi...@gmail.com >>> > > > >wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > So it is an exploit? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the >>> > > > command >>> > > > > > ;P >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the >>> > > item >>> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and >>> > > > > > >>> also >>> > > fun >>> > > > > to >>> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. >>> > > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > ___ >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> > > > archives, >>> > > > > > please visit: >>> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of >>> > virus >>> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- >>> > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam >>> > :) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > ___ >>> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> > > archives, >>> > > > > > please visit: >>> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > ___ >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> > archives, >>> > > > > please visit: >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > > > > >>> > > > ___ >>> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> > > > please visit: >>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > > > >>> > > ___ >>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> > > please visit: >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > > >>> > ___ >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> > please visit: >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoft
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Ya, you can be the server operator of the month, just like player of the week. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:32 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well I, for one, do not remember poking at you due to the whole teapot > server situation... maybe I have... I don't remember and I don't care > enough > to read back. > > We're cool, right? Hugs and kisses :D? > > You should just enjoy your fan club while it lasts, you're popular and well > > known... > on the hlds mailbag. > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:44 PM, msleeper wrote: > > > But don't forget that it lives on forever because small minded 14 year > > olds need -something- that is months and months old to talk about! > > > > > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:39 +1000, Yaakov Smith wrote: > > > At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Well I, for one, do not remember poking at you due to the whole teapot server situation... maybe I have... I don't remember and I don't care enough to read back. We're cool, right? Hugs and kisses :D? You should just enjoy your fan club while it lasts, you're popular and well known... on the hlds mailbag. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:44 PM, msleeper wrote: > But don't forget that it lives on forever because small minded 14 year > olds need -something- that is months and months old to talk about! > > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:39 +1000, Yaakov Smith wrote: > > At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
ehhe, afkpot server eh? 30-60 mins is to gracious though based on past single achievement bans! From: Cc2iscooL To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:57:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time? Technically he could just recode it and make an idle server that would ban players after 30-60 minutes. -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Yaakov Smith wrote: > At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Technically he could just recode it and make an idle server that would ban players after 30-60 minutes. -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Yaakov Smith wrote: > At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
But don't forget that it lives on forever because small minded 14 year olds need -something- that is months and months old to talk about! On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:39 +1000, Yaakov Smith wrote: > At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
At least his stupid plugin is now kinda redundant. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Yeah. msleeper knows how to do useful things. :) On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:13 PM, msleeper wrote: > Thank you for your continued uselessness. > > > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: >> No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in >> seconds. >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: >> >> > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? >> > >> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for >> > > this too now. >> > > >> > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned >> > :(. >> > > >> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: >> > > >> > > > Nope, it's just trolling. >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < >> > robertsmi...@gmail.com >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > So it is an exploit? >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the >> > > > command >> > > > > > ;P >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the >> > > item >> > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also >> > > fun >> > > > > to >> > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ___ >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > archives, >> > > > > > please visit: >> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of >> > virus >> > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.eset.com >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam >> > :) >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ___ >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > archives, >> > > > > > please visit: >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > >> > > > > ___ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > > > > please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > >> > > > ___ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > ___ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
NO U. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:13 PM, msleeper wrote: > Thank you for your continued uselessness. > > > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > > No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in > > seconds. > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > > > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban > for > > > > this too now. > > > > > > > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed > achievement_earned > > > :(. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > > > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just > the > > > > > command > > > > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use > the > > > > item > > > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received > items. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and > also > > > > fun > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > > > virus > > > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t > spam > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Thank you for your continued uselessness. On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 20:04 -0400, 1nsane wrote: > No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in > seconds. > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for > > > this too now. > > > > > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned > > :(. > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > > > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > > > > command > > > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the > > > item > > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also > > > fun > > > > > to > > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > > virus > > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
No. Though I won't say what "formula" I use as that would defeat it in seconds. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM, matan nov wrote: > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for > > this too now. > > > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned > :(. > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > > > command > > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the > > item > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also > > fun > > > > to > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
I think achievement spamming is when they spam those commands, like putting them in a cfg and executing it a bunch. I have it installed too and have gotten a few people. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, matan nov wrote: > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for > > this too now. > > > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned > :(. > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja < > robertsmi...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > > > command > > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the > > item > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also > > fun > > > > to > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Yeah that's what it seems like. Blocking the command works though but sadly there's no way to distinguish between a legitimate item find and someone trolling. On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 00:36 +0200, matan nov wrote: > but then won't it ban people who just get an item? > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for > > this too now. > > > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned :(. > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja > > >wrote: > > > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > > > command > > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the > > item > > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also > > fun > > > > to > > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
but then won't it ban people who just get an item? On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for > this too now. > > Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned :(. > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > > > Nope, it's just trolling. > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja > >wrote: > > > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. > wrote: > > > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > > command > > > > ;P > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > > >> > > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the > item > > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also > fun > > > to > > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
I already autoban people for achievement spam, guess I'll have to ban for this too now. Who knows if valve will fix this, they haven't fixed achievement_earned :(. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, matan nov wrote: > Nope, it's just trolling. > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja >wrote: > > > So it is an exploit? > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. wrote: > > > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the > command > > > ;P > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > > > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > > >> > > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item > > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > > >>> > > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun > > to > > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
It doesn't actually give them the item. -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Robert Smieja wrote: > So it is an exploit? > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. wrote: > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the command > > ;P > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > >> > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > >> > > >> > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > >>> > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun > to > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Nope, it's just trolling. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Robert Smieja wrote: > So it is an exploit? > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. wrote: > > > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the command > > ;P > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > > > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > >> > > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > > >> > > >> > > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item > > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > >>> > > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun > to > > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
So it is an exploit? On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Maximilian L. wrote: > http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 > > VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > > > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the command > ;P > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > > > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > >> > >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > >> > >> > >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item > >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > >>> > >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to > >>> put other items in the item found prompt. > >>> > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4102 (20090525) __ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
http://gamepaste.com/item_found.php http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10071264&postcount=33 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10074531&postcount=62 VALVE, please fix it, it´s becoming anoying! Thanks. > the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the command ;P > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > >> That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd >> >> 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals >> >> >>> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item >>> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. >>> >>> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to >>> put other items in the item found prompt. >>> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4102 (20090525) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > -- Mailing List Conversations - mail...@ml86.de - Please don´t spam :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
the sourcemod plugin can be more fun to play with then just the command ;P On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Didrole wrote: > That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd > > 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > >> theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item >> found event and make it Look like a player has received items. >> >> very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to >> put other items in the item found prompt. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
Ah yes, there's the item_found command, but this player actually has found all hats within a single 30 minute game. This was not just the message, he is currently showing them to other players... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Micheals Sent: maandag 25 mei 2009 7:59 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time? theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item found event and make it Look like a player has received items. very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to put other items in the item found prompt. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Brainstorm wrote: > http://i42.tinypic.com/faoi7r.jpg (screenshot is from someone else). > > > > I'm seeing reports from players that certain players are receiving unlocks > in a very short period of time. Like two items every 10 seconds. Anyone who > has more information? One of the player claims to use nothing but TF2. > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
That's not a sourcemod plugin , that's the item_found cmd 2009/5/25 Stephen Micheals > theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item > found event and make it Look like a player has received items. > > very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to > put other items in the item found prompt. > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Brainstorm wrote: > > http://i42.tinypic.com/faoi7r.jpg (screenshot is from someone else). > > > > > > > > I'm seeing reports from players that certain players are receiving > unlocks > > in a very short period of time. Like two items every 10 seconds. Anyone > who > > has more information? One of the player claims to use nothing but TF2. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
theres a sourcemod plugin that allows you to hook and use the item found event and make it Look like a player has received items. very fun to use and piss the hell off of other players and also fun to put other items in the item found prompt. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Brainstorm wrote: > http://i42.tinypic.com/faoi7r.jpg (screenshot is from someone else). > > > > I'm seeing reports from players that certain players are receiving unlocks > in a very short period of time. Like two items every 10 seconds. Anyone who > has more information? One of the player claims to use nothing but TF2. > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] New bug/hack to get multiple items in a very short time?
http://i42.tinypic.com/faoi7r.jpg (screenshot is from someone else). I'm seeing reports from players that certain players are receiving unlocks in a very short period of time. Like two items every 10 seconds. Anyone who has more information? One of the player claims to use nothing but TF2. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
I think I am going to make a do nothing addon and see if the server leaks faster. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:26 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Just be aware stuff like Mani Admin is terrible memory wise. Without the automated daily restarts we do our servers would easily max out the host's memory within a few days. Without mani however the memory is much more suitable and does not appear to leak (that we have noticed). - Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 6:19 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Actually having seen some source source (I know, I know) code, I believe the way their tree is It's really not a big deal having linux+win32 support. I believe it's probably a stupid little thing that makes the in game performance. Obviously the memory usage is a leak in the Linux specific code. A good leakdetector and a couple of week should fix this problem, unless it's in some binary code they don't have access to (or in some 3rd party code they are allowed to fix ala Havok) You should note that Valve is most definitely NOT the only publisher that listens to complaints. I actually talk to the DICE guys all the time about Battlefield2 hacking and server specific issues (including ones that only apply to ranked servers.) Also the people who do AA also are very communicative with the community. In fact lately Valve has not seemed to be listening to us. I am sure it relates to getting the new HL2 stuff out the door since again, this is their major revenue stream. It was very apparent that most of '05 was dedicated to getting the CS maps ported, getting DoD:S out the door, getting the HDR updates read, and trying to get HL2: Aftermath out the door. We are still missing a couple of CS maps though, I'd say the last two important maps are out. (missing maps: as_oilrig, cs_747, cs_backalley, cs_estate, de_airstrip, de_storm, de_torn, de_survivor, and de_vertigo ... Of these only as_oilrig and cs_estate were running on any cs1.6 server when I checked this) Blah blah blah, are you still reading this? :) Have a good day, I gotta spend the night getting a Colo in the Netherlands up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sorenson Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:08 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack At 09:54 PM 2/20/2006 -0600, Stuart wrote: >Here's the problem. I'm just not going to waste the effor to attempt >to read through that. Preach it brother! I was going to, but I had to run home and iron my toaster cozy. (In many areas that's called humor, folks.) >My biggest Valve complaint at the moment: Why is there a moderately >significant difference in the performance of SRCDS on Windows vs Linux. This is a very significant complaint. Granted, the two are so different as to need separate gen-trees, but in my estimation Valve is overlooking a significant resource in the number of people willing to help them overcome this problem. >Honestly, the other issues are not server issues and really belong on a >different list. It's noteworthy that Valve is the only publisher/writer around that will listen to these complaints seriously. It's also noteworthy that there's still a bug list a mile long. Valve's revenue stream and internal priority list will take precedence, of course, but perhaps a bugtracker wiki or the like would be useful so we can get updates? Something other than the forums, I'm thinking of a place where both server admins and developers can share ideas without suffering the slings and arrows of "Me too" and "Fix this now" and "You suxors!" so prevalent in a public forum, and with membership comes the ability to beta-test potential rollouts. Valve cannot possibly simulate all of our situations, why not make use of a voluntary community to better the testing process? Admins who have CS:S as a revenue stream can test while not affecting production, and folks at home with a P133 under Slakware or Win98 can add to it. Speaking of bugs, the free DoD:S weekend brought them out of the woodwork. I don't think I'm telling the cheaters anything new when I state that the ability to create a new Steam ID on the fly helped a lot of folks test VAC2 without fear of reprisal. Just tonight on DOD:S I saw a reload-bypass script, I believe a wallhack (I'd like a second opinion before claiming that one), and a few other goodies. If Vac isn't updated based upon informaton gleaned soon it's going to be CS6 all over again.
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Just be aware stuff like Mani Admin is terrible memory wise. Without the automated daily restarts we do our servers would easily max out the host's memory within a few days. Without mani however the memory is much more suitable and does not appear to leak (that we have noticed). - Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 6:19 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Actually having seen some source source (I know, I know) code, I believe the way their tree is It's really not a big deal having linux+win32 support. I believe it's probably a stupid little thing that makes the in game performance. Obviously the memory usage is a leak in the Linux specific code. A good leakdetector and a couple of week should fix this problem, unless it's in some binary code they don't have access to (or in some 3rd party code they are allowed to fix ala Havok) You should note that Valve is most definitely NOT the only publisher that listens to complaints. I actually talk to the DICE guys all the time about Battlefield2 hacking and server specific issues (including ones that only apply to ranked servers.) Also the people who do AA also are very communicative with the community. In fact lately Valve has not seemed to be listening to us. I am sure it relates to getting the new HL2 stuff out the door since again, this is their major revenue stream. It was very apparent that most of '05 was dedicated to getting the CS maps ported, getting DoD:S out the door, getting the HDR updates read, and trying to get HL2: Aftermath out the door. We are still missing a couple of CS maps though, I'd say the last two important maps are out. (missing maps: as_oilrig, cs_747, cs_backalley, cs_estate, de_airstrip, de_storm, de_torn, de_survivor, and de_vertigo ... Of these only as_oilrig and cs_estate were running on any cs1.6 server when I checked this) Blah blah blah, are you still reading this? :) Have a good day, I gotta spend the night getting a Colo in the Netherlands up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sorenson Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:08 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack At 09:54 PM 2/20/2006 -0600, Stuart wrote: >Here's the problem. I'm just not going to waste the effor to attempt >to read through that. Preach it brother! I was going to, but I had to run home and iron my toaster cozy. (In many areas that's called humor, folks.) >My biggest Valve complaint at the moment: Why is there a moderately >significant difference in the performance of SRCDS on Windows vs Linux. This is a very significant complaint. Granted, the two are so different as to need separate gen-trees, but in my estimation Valve is overlooking a significant resource in the number of people willing to help them overcome this problem. >Honestly, the other issues are not server issues and really belong on a >different list. It's noteworthy that Valve is the only publisher/writer around that will listen to these complaints seriously. It's also noteworthy that there's still a bug list a mile long. Valve's revenue stream and internal priority list will take precedence, of course, but perhaps a bugtracker wiki or the like would be useful so we can get updates? Something other than the forums, I'm thinking of a place where both server admins and developers can share ideas without suffering the slings and arrows of "Me too" and "Fix this now" and "You suxors!" so prevalent in a public forum, and with membership comes the ability to beta-test potential rollouts. Valve cannot possibly simulate all of our situations, why not make use of a voluntary community to better the testing process? Admins who have CS:S as a revenue stream can test while not affecting production, and folks at home with a P133 under Slakware or Win98 can add to it. Speaking of bugs, the free DoD:S weekend brought them out of the woodwork. I don't think I'm telling the cheaters anything new when I state that the ability to create a new Steam ID on the fly helped a lot of folks test VAC2 without fear of reprisal. Just tonight on DOD:S I saw a reload-bypass script, I believe a wallhack (I'd like a second opinion before claiming that one), and a few other goodies. If Vac isn't updated based upon informaton gleaned soon it's going to be CS6 all over again. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Actually having seen some source source (I know, I know) code, I believe the way their tree is It's really not a big deal having linux+win32 support. I believe it's probably a stupid little thing that makes the in game performance. Obviously the memory usage is a leak in the Linux specific code. A good leakdetector and a couple of week should fix this problem, unless it's in some binary code they don't have access to (or in some 3rd party code they are allowed to fix ala Havok) You should note that Valve is most definitely NOT the only publisher that listens to complaints. I actually talk to the DICE guys all the time about Battlefield2 hacking and server specific issues (including ones that only apply to ranked servers.) Also the people who do AA also are very communicative with the community. In fact lately Valve has not seemed to be listening to us. I am sure it relates to getting the new HL2 stuff out the door since again, this is their major revenue stream. It was very apparent that most of '05 was dedicated to getting the CS maps ported, getting DoD:S out the door, getting the HDR updates read, and trying to get HL2: Aftermath out the door. We are still missing a couple of CS maps though, I'd say the last two important maps are out. (missing maps: as_oilrig, cs_747, cs_backalley, cs_estate, de_airstrip, de_storm, de_torn, de_survivor, and de_vertigo ... Of these only as_oilrig and cs_estate were running on any cs1.6 server when I checked this) Blah blah blah, are you still reading this? :) Have a good day, I gotta spend the night getting a Colo in the Netherlands up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sorenson Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:08 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack At 09:54 PM 2/20/2006 -0600, Stuart wrote: >Here's the problem. I'm just not going to waste the effor to attempt >to read through that. Preach it brother! I was going to, but I had to run home and iron my toaster cozy. (In many areas that's called humor, folks.) >My biggest Valve complaint at the moment: Why is there a moderately >significant difference in the performance of SRCDS on Windows vs Linux. This is a very significant complaint. Granted, the two are so different as to need separate gen-trees, but in my estimation Valve is overlooking a significant resource in the number of people willing to help them overcome this problem. >Honestly, the other issues are not server issues and really belong on a >different list. It's noteworthy that Valve is the only publisher/writer around that will listen to these complaints seriously. It's also noteworthy that there's still a bug list a mile long. Valve's revenue stream and internal priority list will take precedence, of course, but perhaps a bugtracker wiki or the like would be useful so we can get updates? Something other than the forums, I'm thinking of a place where both server admins and developers can share ideas without suffering the slings and arrows of "Me too" and "Fix this now" and "You suxors!" so prevalent in a public forum, and with membership comes the ability to beta-test potential rollouts. Valve cannot possibly simulate all of our situations, why not make use of a voluntary community to better the testing process? Admins who have CS:S as a revenue stream can test while not affecting production, and folks at home with a P133 under Slakware or Win98 can add to it. Speaking of bugs, the free DoD:S weekend brought them out of the woodwork. I don't think I'm telling the cheaters anything new when I state that the ability to create a new Steam ID on the fly helped a lot of folks test VAC2 without fear of reprisal. Just tonight on DOD:S I saw a reload-bypass script, I believe a wallhack (I'd like a second opinion before claiming that one), and a few other goodies. If Vac isn't updated based upon informaton gleaned soon it's going to be CS6 all over again. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
>It's noteworthy that Valve is the only publisher/writer around that will listen to these complaints seriously. It's also noteworthy that there's still a bug list a mile long. >Valve's revenue stream and internal priority list will take precedence, of course, but perhaps a bugtracker wiki or the like would be useful so we can get updates? >Something other than the forums, I'm thinking of a place where both server admins and developers can share ideas without suffering the slings and arrows of "Me too" >and "Fix this now" and "You suxors!" >so prevalent in a public forum, and with membership comes the ability to beta-test potential rollouts. Valve cannot possibly simulate all of our situations, why not make >use of a voluntary community to better the testing process? Admins who have CS:S as a revenue stream can test while not affecting production, and folks at home with >a P133 under Slakware or Win98 can add to it. Perhaps something along the lines of bugzilla? http://www.bugzilla.org/ --DH -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 2/17/2006 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
I missed the fix, can someone please update me and wrap this thread up? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 21. februar 2006 03:45 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I never said it was worth a crap ive been up way longer then that just saying you don't think things out fully before writing emails. Punk kid yeah ok you believe that I wasn't the one that used the word smack. But yes believe im a moron thats all great as I said u don't hurt my feelings what so ever and yet again 1 email out of 7 or so was worth a damn. I give that to robert he had a good point. He actually pointed out a flaw in what I said in my last email I give him that. I never said what game nor system stats or anything. Cause in all reality if I was running it on some quad processor server or something then I doubt it would come near maxing out the system. So congrats on that young fellow. He actually helped this problem people on this list might take a thing or 2 from him he actually has something worth my while to say. Lastly to cure up any confusion of things so you can blame the right places in government and such. I live in tennessee the 48th worst state scores in the USA. So rip on me go for it I could care less its not my fault I passed my classes with quite good grades. I should forwarn anyone who goes to rip on me about english go for it. I don't pride myself in writting emails just to shut a bunch of annoyences up about emailing 15 times on one subject. Or roasting on people when the topic doesn't at all concern them problem was fixed. So at what point do I need 20-30 people roasting on me about my lack of explination. Alfred or someone from the valve team can see my email and can email me privatly if they had questions/concerns about my exact problem. In any case this email is over I hope everyone enjoyed wasting another 5 minutes of your life reading my email just to roast me again. - Original Message - From: "Jason O. Washburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > "email writing after about 15 hours of being up" Try several days and then > we'll talk. Obviously you're a young PUNK and haven't experienced life > yet > to think 15 hours is something. 15 hours is a normal day in the > networking > field. Grow up KIDDIE before you decide to talk SMACK! > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:20 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > Let me just explain something to you - > > If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to > help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. > > If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the > piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to > WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? > > What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout > Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about > 15 > hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many > others do and leave it vague. > > I am experiencing lag valve fix it. > > Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about > My > cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage > per > each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that > says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug > problems. > > I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about > 15 > responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has > lots > of useless messages. > > I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this > "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really > don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens > If > they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire > on another person just to do that. If people would just read before > opening > their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say > anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for > valve to deal with. Valve would probably res
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
At 09:54 PM 2/20/2006 -0600, Stuart wrote: >Here's the problem. I'm just not going to waste the effor to attempt to >read through that. Preach it brother! I was going to, but I had to run home and iron my toaster cozy. (In many areas that's called humor, folks.) >My biggest Valve complaint at the moment: Why is there a moderately >significant difference in the performance of SRCDS on Windows vs Linux. This is a very significant complaint. Granted, the two are so different as to need separate gen-trees, but in my estimation Valve is overlooking a significant resource in the number of people willing to help them overcome this problem. >Honestly, the other issues are not server issues and really belong on a >different list. It's noteworthy that Valve is the only publisher/writer around that will listen to these complaints seriously. It's also noteworthy that there's still a bug list a mile long. Valve's revenue stream and internal priority list will take precedence, of course, but perhaps a bugtracker wiki or the like would be useful so we can get updates? Something other than the forums, I'm thinking of a place where both server admins and developers can share ideas without suffering the slings and arrows of "Me too" and "Fix this now" and "You suxors!" so prevalent in a public forum, and with membership comes the ability to beta-test potential rollouts. Valve cannot possibly simulate all of our situations, why not make use of a voluntary community to better the testing process? Admins who have CS:S as a revenue stream can test while not affecting production, and folks at home with a P133 under Slakware or Win98 can add to it. Speaking of bugs, the free DoD:S weekend brought them out of the woodwork. I don't think I'm telling the cheaters anything new when I state that the ability to create a new Steam ID on the fly helped a lot of folks test VAC2 without fear of reprisal. Just tonight on DOD:S I saw a reload-bypass script, I believe a wallhack (I'd like a second opinion before claiming that one), and a few other goodies. If Vac isn't updated based upon informaton gleaned soon it's going to be CS6 all over again. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Here's the problem. I'm just not going to waste the effor to attempt to read through that. Take your time. Think about what you want to say. Then write your thoughts. I seriously think there needs to be a like 3rd list for hlds-gsp - hlds for game service providers. This would be Grand. Many of us actually cover BOTH platforms. My biggest Valve complaint at the moment: Why is there a moderately significant difference in the performance of SRCDS on Windows vs Linux. HLDS doesn't has almost no difference leading me to use Gentoo Linux for HLDS hosting 99% of the time (the Colo I use in Atlanta requires Windows for they will not touch your box ... It is the dumbest thing in the universe, but c'est la vie.) But for SRCDS I basically have 0 choice as there's such a gulf in memory usage (not to mention Actual in-game performance) They do need to do a bit more testing with the current addons used by 99% of the servers, but almost the only addon I have problems with is mani admin mod, but it's also the only full admin mod that exists at this point. Honestly, the other issues are not server issues and really belong on a different list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:45 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I never said it was worth a crap ive been up way longer then that just saying you don't think things out fully before writing emails. Punk kid yeah ok you believe that I wasn't the one that used the word smack. But yes believe im a moron thats all great as I said u don't hurt my feelings what so ever and yet again 1 email out of 7 or so was worth a damn. I give that to robert he had a good point. He actually pointed out a flaw in what I said in my last email I give him that. I never said what game nor system stats or anything. Cause in all reality if I was running it on some quad processor server or something then I doubt it would come near maxing out the system. So congrats on that young fellow. He actually helped this problem people on this list might take a thing or 2 from him he actually has something worth my while to say. Lastly to cure up any confusion of things so you can blame the right places in government and such. I live in tennessee the 48th worst state scores in the USA. So rip on me go for it I could care less its not my fault I passed my classes with quite good grades. I should forwarn anyone who goes to rip on me about english go for it. I don't pride myself in writting emails just to shut a bunch of annoyences up about emailing 15 times on one subject. Or roasting on people when the topic doesn't at all concern them problem was fixed. So at what point do I need 20-30 people roasting on me about my lack of explination. Alfred or someone from the valve team can see my email and can email me privatly if they had questions/concerns about my exact problem. In any case this email is over I hope everyone enjoyed wasting another 5 minutes of your life reading my email just to roast me again. - Original Message - From: "Jason O. Washburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > "email writing after about 15 hours of being up" Try several days and > then we'll talk. Obviously you're a young PUNK and haven't > experienced life yet to think 15 hours is something. 15 hours is a > normal day in the networking field. Grow up KIDDIE before you decide > to talk SMACK! > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:20 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > Let me just explain something to you - > > If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able > to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. > > If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip > the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came > here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? > > What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout > Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after > about > 15 > hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like > many others do and leave it vague. > > I am experiencing lag valve fix it. > > Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. O
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I never said it was worth a crap ive been up way longer then that just saying you don't think things out fully before writing emails. Punk kid yeah ok you believe that I wasn't the one that used the word smack. But yes believe im a moron thats all great as I said u don't hurt my feelings what so ever and yet again 1 email out of 7 or so was worth a damn. I give that to robert he had a good point. He actually pointed out a flaw in what I said in my last email I give him that. I never said what game nor system stats or anything. Cause in all reality if I was running it on some quad processor server or something then I doubt it would come near maxing out the system. So congrats on that young fellow. He actually helped this problem people on this list might take a thing or 2 from him he actually has something worth my while to say. Lastly to cure up any confusion of things so you can blame the right places in government and such. I live in tennessee the 48th worst state scores in the USA. So rip on me go for it I could care less its not my fault I passed my classes with quite good grades. I should forwarn anyone who goes to rip on me about english go for it. I don't pride myself in writting emails just to shut a bunch of annoyences up about emailing 15 times on one subject. Or roasting on people when the topic doesn't at all concern them problem was fixed. So at what point do I need 20-30 people roasting on me about my lack of explination. Alfred or someone from the valve team can see my email and can email me privatly if they had questions/concerns about my exact problem. In any case this email is over I hope everyone enjoyed wasting another 5 minutes of your life reading my email just to roast me again. - Original Message - From: "Jason O. Washburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack "email writing after about 15 hours of being up" Try several days and then we'll talk. Obviously you're a young PUNK and haven't experienced life yet to think 15 hours is something. 15 hours is a normal day in the networking field. Grow up KIDDIE before you decide to talk SMACK! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince val
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I don't have anything against Australians or the British, I was just telling my fellow Americans on the list what the meaning of the word was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:45 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 90% of this list is Australian lol On 2/21/06, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > Hey hey hey, what have you got against us Australians?? > > As a side note: Please do not base average Australian intellect to that of > young sprout here, it makes me feel all sad inside :( > > Regards, > Adam. > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott > Sent: Tue 21/02/06 7:38 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > For those that don't know the meaning on "WHINGE", it means "to > whine". The > author was Australian or British. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:20 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > Let me just explain something to you - > > If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to > help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. > > If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the > piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to > WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? > > What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout > Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about > 15 > hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many > others do and leave it vague. > > I am experiencing lag valve fix it. > > Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about > My > cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage > per > each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that > says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug > problems. > > I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about > 15 > responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has > lots > of useless messages. > > I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this > "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really > don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens > If > they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire > on another person just to do that. If people would just read before > opening > their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say > anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for > valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. > > See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. > I > know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many > of > you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger > then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people > if > they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just > cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has > helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your > at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with > half > my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back > probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when > the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. > Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. > Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > > helpful > > and people only spoke about the
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 90% of this list is Australian lol On 2/21/06, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > Hey hey hey, what have you got against us Australians?? > > As a side note: Please do not base average Australian intellect to that of > young sprout here, it makes me feel all sad inside :( > > Regards, > Adam. > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott > Sent: Tue 21/02/06 7:38 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > For those that don't know the meaning on "WHINGE", it means "to > whine". The > author was Australian or British. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:20 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > Let me just explain something to you - > > If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to > help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. > > If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the > piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to > WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? > > What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout > Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about > 15 > hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many > others do and leave it vague. > > I am experiencing lag valve fix it. > > Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about > My > cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage > per > each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that > says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug > problems. > > I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about > 15 > responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has > lots > of useless messages. > > I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this > "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really > don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens > If > they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire > on another person just to do that. If people would just read before > opening > their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say > anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for > valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. > > See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. > I > know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many > of > you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger > then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people > if > they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just > cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has > helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your > at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with > half > my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back > probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when > the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. > Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. > Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > > helpful > > and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel > > it's > > necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As > > your > > mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say > > anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to > > http://list.valv
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Hey hey hey, what have you got against us Australians?? As a side note: Please do not base average Australian intellect to that of young sprout here, it makes me feel all sad inside :( Regards, Adam. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott Sent: Tue 21/02/06 7:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack For those that don't know the meaning on "WHINGE", it means "to whine". The author was Australian or British. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:20 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > helpful > and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel > it's > necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As > your > mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say > anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back > to > back to back > 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to > these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out > what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand > someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My pr
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"email writing after about 15 hours of being up" Try several days and then we'll talk. Obviously you're a young PUNK and haven't experienced life yet to think 15 hours is something. 15 hours is a normal day in the networking field. Grow up KIDDIE before you decide to talk SMACK! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > helpful and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of > you feel it's > necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As > your > mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say > anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min > back to back to back > 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to > these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out > what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand > someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem > has > been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you > hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have > done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes > said &
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Thanks for that :) This is the best thread ever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack For those that don't know the meaning on "WHINGE", it means "to whine". The author was Australian or British. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:20 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > helpful and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of > you feel it's necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing > or flaming. As your mother used to say... If you don't have anything > nice to say, don't say anything. If you don't like that idea, do us > all a favor and go to > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min > back to back to back 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then > you should unsubscribe to these fourms you dont need to be a jerk > about i am just trying to find out what can help or fix the problem > and for any reason you dont under stand someones question ask them > for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem has been ongoing for 2 > 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you hacked/virus no > so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have done > ev
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For those that don't know the meaning on "WHINGE", it means "to whine". The author was Australian or British. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Elvin Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:20 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > helpful > and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel > it's > necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As > your > mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say > anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back > to > back to back > 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to > these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out > what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand > someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem > has > been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you > hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have > done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes > said > to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get > flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you > th
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Let me just explain something to you - If you come on here and say "I'm experiencing lag does is anyone able to help me" then you will get mature and useful responses. If you do what you have done and say VALVE FIX MY G4ME then we'll rip the piss out of you, because you didn't come here for help you came here to WHINGE. And nobody likes a whinger understand? What else were you expecting considering the tone of your first message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: 20 February 2006 02:43 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, > helpful > and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel > it's > necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As > your > mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say > anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back > to > back to back > 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to > these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out > what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand > someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem > has > been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you > hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have > done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes > said > to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get > flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you > think > maybe you should let your man do the talking for you! > > >>From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack >>Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:40:06 -0600 >> >>WAAA like I have ever cared what half these peop
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I totally agree, but come on! Look how cute those two are flaming each other. One thing that would make it easier to understand is if they hit . and then [enter] sometimes. "I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, helpful and people only spoke about their servers." Don't know how it was before I joined 5 years ago, but in these 5 years your statement has just not been true :) Sounds nice though :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: 20. februar 2006 00:24 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, helpful and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel it's necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As your mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back to back to back 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem has been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes said to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you think maybe you should let your man do the talking for you! >From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >To: >Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:40:06 -0600 > >WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people >don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email >though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even >respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I >could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks >are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't >help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I >fixed my problem. > >See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause >if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I >am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 >person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about >the >same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u >worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox >----- Original Message - >From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM >Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > >>Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. >> >>-----Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn >>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack >> >>I'm glad someone understood the post:-( >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain >>(eternal) >>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack >> >> >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all >>suffering >>from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I >>hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean >>and >>your post is just asking for some retaliation. >>I personally agree with the parts I can understand. >> >> >> >>On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>-- >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from >>>a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
I see that many of you don't like my english or email writing after about 15 hours of being up. I am so happy to tell you my problem just like many others do and leave it vague. I am experiencing lag valve fix it. Ok done. Seen to many of these emails just like this one. Or how about My cpu usage is high. Yeah ok that helps... Does it say how much cpu usage per each process of the server does it run. I see nothing in that quote that says that. See this is all very helpful when valve goes to debug problems. I don't pretend to know what half this list says but knowing I got about 15 responces off something directly to valve about a bug just shows it has lots of useless messages. I do remember a subject which I completly ignored this time saying this "VALVE are you lissening" it got something like 50 posts back. I really don't see a use for that. And just shows how much valve actually lissens If they spent their day reading emails from this list they might as well hire on another person just to do that. If people would just read before opening their mouth or do as Kevin said If you don't have anything nice don't say anything at all this list would be much more productive be much easier for valve to deal with. Valve would probably respond a whole lot more too. See All this flaming did nothing I still speak my mind as it comes to me. I know you can say im a moron im a crybaby I could care less. I know many of you out there have small dicks and can't help to make yourself feel bigger then others by just insulting people. This is the issue with many people if they would just go into things clear headed and not roast on people just cause you have nothing better to do then insult some other person who has helped other people on this list. Finally roast me WOOPTY DOOO While your at it convince valve to boot me off the list im sure valve agrees with half my email so far already though. And btw I would roast on 50% of you back probably but I have better things to do then to read pages of emails when the main topic is lets roast on this kid cause 10 other people have. Creative I must say Hope you feel better cause you never made me feel bad. Nor will you ever So roast away kiddys :). - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, helpful and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel it's necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As your mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back to back to back 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem has been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes said to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you think maybe you should let your man do the talking for you! From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:40:06 -0600 WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I fixed my problem. See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about the same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Sigh.. I remember the days when this list was extremely informative, helpful and people only spoke about their servers. Why do you many of you feel it's necessary to be obnoxious? There is no need for cursing or flaming. As your mother used to say... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. If you don't like that idea, do us all a favor and go to http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:47 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack 1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back to back to back 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem has been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes said to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you think maybe you should let your man do the talking for you! >From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >To: >Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:40:06 -0600 > >WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people >don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email >though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even >respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I >could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks >are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't >help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I >fixed my problem. > >See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause >if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I >am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 >person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about >the >same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u >worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox >- Original Message ----- >From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM >Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > >>Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. >> >>-Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn >>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack >> >>I'm glad someone understood the post:-( >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain >>(eternal) >>Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM >>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack >> >> >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all >>suffering >>from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I >>hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean >>and >>your post is just asking for some retaliation. >>I personally agree with the parts I can understand. >> >> >> >>On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>-- >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from >>>a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is >>>screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at >>>first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't >>>doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So >>>im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably >>>was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in >>>any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right >>>off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or >>&g
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
1) if someone asks me a question i answer it even if it is in 3 min back to back to back 2)and if your mail box is getting flooded then you should unsubscribe to these fourms you dont need to be a jerk about i am just trying to find out what can help or fix the problem and for any reason you dont under stand someones question ask them for more info dont be an ass hole! My problem has been ongoing for 2 1/2 years and get the same answer form jerks like you hacked/virus no so valve gave me this fourm to fix the problem and we have done everything that people said to try and fix this and what ass holes said to and it is not fixed so until it gets fixed your mail box will still get flooded and as far as my spelling,grammer i could give a SHIT what you think maybe you should let your man do the talking for you! From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:40:06 -0600 WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I fixed my problem. See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about the same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Frazer,
Thank you so much for the post. I was laughing my ass off when I saw this.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:03 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Okay, so I ran this through BabelFish and I came up with this:
"Hello. Recently, I received an xFire message from one of the
administrators on my server, telling me that the game was performing
strangely. At first, I didn't believe him, because I have never exercised
much discretion in authorizing admins on my machines, however, when I
connected to the server, I noticed significant lag. Looking further (at
least as far as my short attention span allows), I determined that the
server CPU utilization was quite low. While I am not entirely sure of the
relationship between low CPU utilization and network latency and not knowing
what else to do, I restarted the machine. ("When in doubt, pull the plug
out") Much to my surprise, the problem resurfaced, in spite of the fact
that I restarted without actually changing any of the operating conditions
of the host. So, with my repetoire of troubleshooting strategies exhausted,
I decided it must be a bug with the Valve software. I concluded this
because (a) I am running some 3rd party mods and (b) even though there are
thousands of servers, worldwide, NOT experiencing this problem, what else
could it possibly be? A further diagnostic clue: when some players were
banned and kicked for reasons unknown to me. I'm sure that's relevant.
Please stop everything you are doing and fix this because my server is
really running poorly. dOOd!"
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:50 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] New bug/hack
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a
admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is
screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I
am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I
restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This
must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same
beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with
beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I
don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever
this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy
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RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
No kidding Don't you just love what the public school systems in America are doing for kids these days! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded > at first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its > MASSIVLY lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check > everything out box isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then > goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This must be some bug on > valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for > MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with beetles mod > and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I don't > know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever > this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Totally AWESOME!! I can help with a message like that.
Jason
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 10:03 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Okay, so I ran this through BabelFish and I came up with this:
"Hello. Recently, I received an xFire message from one of the
administrators on my server, telling me that the game was performing
strangely. At first, I didn't believe him, because I have never exercised
much discretion in authorizing admins on my machines, however, when I
connected to the server, I noticed significant lag. Looking further (at
least as far as my short attention span allows), I determined that the
server CPU utilization was quite low. While I am not entirely sure of the
relationship between low CPU utilization and network latency and not knowing
what else to do, I restarted the machine. ("When in doubt, pull the plug
out") Much to my surprise, the problem resurfaced, in spite of the fact
that I restarted without actually changing any of the operating conditions
of the host. So, with my repetoire of troubleshooting strategies exhausted,
I decided it must be a bug with the Valve software. I concluded this
because (a) I am running some 3rd party mods and (b) even though there are
thousands of servers, worldwide, NOT experiencing this problem, what else
could it possibly be? A further diagnostic clue: when some players were
banned and kicked for reasons unknown to me. I'm sure that's relevant.
Please stop everything you are doing and fix this because my server is
really running poorly. dOOd!"
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:50 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] New bug/hack
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a
admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is
screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I
am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I
restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This
must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same
beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with
beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I
don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever
this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy
--
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RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Okay, so I ran this through BabelFish and I came up with this:
"Hello. Recently, I received an xFire message from one of the
administrators on my server, telling me that the game was performing
strangely. At first, I didn't believe him, because I have never exercised
much discretion in authorizing admins on my machines, however, when I
connected to the server, I noticed significant lag. Looking further (at
least as far as my short attention span allows), I determined that the
server CPU utilization was quite low. While I am not entirely sure of the
relationship between low CPU utilization and network latency and not knowing
what else to do, I restarted the machine. ("When in doubt, pull the plug
out") Much to my surprise, the problem resurfaced, in spite of the fact
that I restarted without actually changing any of the operating conditions
of the host. So, with my repetoire of troubleshooting strategies exhausted,
I decided it must be a bug with the Valve software. I concluded this
because (a) I am running some 3rd party mods and (b) even though there are
thousands of servers, worldwide, NOT experiencing this problem, what else
could it possibly be? A further diagnostic clue: when some players were
banned and kicked for reasons unknown to me. I'm sure that's relevant.
Please stop everything you are doing and fix this because my server is
really running poorly. dOOd!"
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:50 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] New bug/hack
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a
admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is
screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I
am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I
restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This
must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same
beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with
beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I
don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever
this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy
--
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Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
At 01:40 AM 2/19/2006 -0600, you wrote: >WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people >don't know what they are talking about. Perhaps they don't. You, however, write a sentence like a crank-addled Pomeranian. There's two sides involved in any means of communication, and near as I can tell your side is the one that is in need of translation. English may not be your first language, but we can work with that. Try to be, at least, somewhat precise and topical? I can't help you if I don't know what you're asking. Likewise for others on this list. If you want the incoherent forums, they're labeled HLDS Windows and are the second list down on the left -- you can't miss them. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sprout, all we are saying is that if you want to be heard you should be understood. Get it? On 2/19/06, Jason O. Washburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great another bum that knows everything but continues to post questions > and > writes emails like a 3rd grader:-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:40 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people > don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email > though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even > respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I > could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks > are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't > help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said > I > fixed my problem. > > See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list > cause > if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box > I > am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 > person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about > the > same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u > worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox > - Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. > > Washburn > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > I'm glad someone understood the post:-( > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain > > (eternal) > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all > > suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be > > heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit > > though cause these guys are mean and > > your post is just asking for some retaliation. > > I personally agree with the parts I can understand. > > > > > > > > On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from > >> a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he > >> is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at > >> first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't > >> doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So > >> im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably > >> was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in > >> any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people > >> right off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned > >> or whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made > >> us move really slow and choppy > >> -- > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > ___ > >
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Great another bum that knows everything but continues to post questions and writes emails like a 3rd grader:-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I fixed my problem. See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about the same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. > Washburn > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack > > I'm glad someone understood the post:-( > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain > (eternal) > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack > > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all > suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be > heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit > though cause these guys are mean and > your post is just asking for some retaliation. > I personally agree with the parts I can understand. > > > > On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from >> a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he >> is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at >> first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't >> doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So >> im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably >> was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in >> any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people >> right off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned >> or whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made >> us move really slow and choppy >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
I'm not sure I understand. Are you trying to tell us that your dog ugly also? - Original Message - From: "Jason O. Washburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
WAAA like I have ever cared what half these people say half these people don't know what they are talking about. I am glad someone read my email though actually cause someone understood it. Why the hell would u even respond if you can't understand it? Such retarded people on this list. I could care less what these people have to say. Emails about bugs or hacks are ment for valve why people yet again respond to them knowing they can't help my problem why would they respond again. Not even to mention I said I fixed my problem. See screw these people I am not afraid of getting flamed on this list cause if people took time to think about it Cause if you look at your email box I am staring at it right now I see 4 emails within a couple minutes from 1 person another person irv carlson has 3 posts back to back to back about the same topic. So if you arn't from valve then go flame someone else u worthless pieces of shit, and stop flooding my mailbox - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
Maybe I alone, but I am not really sure what your "problem" is. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason O. Washburn Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:51 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] New bug/hack I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from > a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is > screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at > first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't > doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So > im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably > was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in > any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right > off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or > whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made us > move really slow and choppy > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] New bug/hack
I'm glad someone understood the post:-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian M Frain (eternal) Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] New bug/hack -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded > at first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its > MASSIVLY lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check > everything out box isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then > goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This must be some bug on > valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for > MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with beetles mod > and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I don't > know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever > this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New bug/hack
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Buddy, we are all suffering from a variety of issues, we are all trying to be heard.in your case I hope you wore your flame retardent suit though cause these guys are mean and your post is just asking for some retaliation. I personally agree with the parts I can understand. On 2/19/06, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at > first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY > lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box > isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So > im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably was > cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case > update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom > no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we > please get whatever this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] New bug/hack
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok I get xfired from a admin of mine saying the game is all retarded at first I think he is screwing with me so I go in and seems like its MASSIVLY lagging at first. I am like ok check this out check everything out box isn't doing jack I restart it fixed at first then goes retarded again. So im like ok wth This must be some bug on valves side which it probably was cause I ran the same beetlesmod for MONTHS without changing it in any case update 3 files with beetles mod and they ban 2-3 people right off and boom no more problem. I don't know what beetle banned or whatever but can we please get whatever this was fixed like made us move really slow and choppy -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
