Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
[??R] The-/ RTL-Servers wrote: Hey guys, Seeing VERY high CPU usage on a 24slot tf2 server running on Linux. Up until 21 players the FPS is at a stable 990, from 21-24 players it just seems to drop to 60FPS server side. Memory usage is fine and as expected. However, CPU usage is at 70 - 80% on one core of a core2duo 6400. This is at 66tickrate / 1000fps. Regards, Lee Gardiner ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds I was getting horrible tickrates up untill this last update. They're just taking their time optimizing srcds again. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Hello, Understandable, just thought I'm aware its a beta... so best we report back :) Lee ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
RTL-Servers wrote: Hey guys, Seeing VERY high CPU usage on a 24slot tf2 server running on Linux. Up until 21 players the FPS is at a stable 990, from 21-24 players it just seems to drop to 60FPS server side. Memory usage is fine and as expected. However, CPU usage is at 70 - 80% on one core of a core2duo 6400. This is at 66tickrate / 1000fps. Regards, Lee Gardiner ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds I was getting horrible tickrates up untill this last update. They're just taking their time optimizing srcds again. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Hey guys, Seeing VERY high CPU usage on a 24slot tf2 server running on Linux. Up until 21 players the FPS is at a stable 990, from 21-24 players it just seems to drop to 60FPS server side. Memory usage is fine and as expected. However, CPU usage is at 70 - 80% on one core of a core2duo 6400. This is at 66tickrate / 1000fps. Regards, Lee Gardiner ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Did anyone get imagecfg to work besides Mike? I tried everything I could think of including full paths and it hasnt worked. HP DLinkOZ wrote: The only time I've seen that error with imagecfg, I was able to get around it by using the full path to the executable: imagecfg -a 0x1 D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox\srcds.exe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats I have tried imagecfg on my win2003 server ... Here my results: D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -u srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -a 0x1 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0001 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. - Andreas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:45 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: > > Process Affinity Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've >> > > >> used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other >> > > >> cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. >> > > > > > > &g
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
At 05:30 PM 9/20/2007, Kevin Ottalini wrote: That fine graph never made it to the list Steve, but I can confirm the memory leak. After almost exactly 48 hours my TF2 server finally crashed (WinServer2003, 3.0GHz P4). Same issue as source servers leaking memory, I think one of the recent source updates fixed it, and I don't think that fix for source made it in to TF2 :) -- Gary Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? Let's not play "Jeopardy-style quoting" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
That fine graph never made it to the list Steve, but I can confirm the memory leak. After almost exactly 48 hours my TF2 server finally crashed (WinServer2003, 3.0GHz P4). - Original Message - From: "Steven Hartland" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
On Win 2003 (not xp) you should be able to do it with the start command: start /affinity 1 /wait srcds.exe -console . . . start /affinity 2 /wait srcds.exe -console . . . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats I have tried imagecfg on my win2003 server ... Here my results: D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -u srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -a 0x1 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0001 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. - Andreas > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:45 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & > Performance stats > > Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? > I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original > Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 > server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Mike > Durand wrote: > You could have a separate install for each > server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, > srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with > imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if > adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to > behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a > chance that it may and that would be a better solution for > you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 > PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all > the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there > is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is > there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to > run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Durand" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September > 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity > issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did > properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my > result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > contains no configuration information > > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of > 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the > following configuration information: > > Process Affinity > Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when > running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command > line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take > advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each > server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them > on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 > 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program s
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
The only time I've seen that error with imagecfg, I was able to get around it by using the full path to the executable: imagecfg -a 0x1 D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox\srcds.exe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats I have tried imagecfg on my win2003 server ... Here my results: D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -u srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -a 0x1 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0001 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. - Andreas > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:45 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & > Performance stats > > Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? > I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original > Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 > server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Mike > Durand wrote: > You could have a separate install for each > server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, > srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with > imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if > adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to > behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a > chance that it may and that would be a better solution for > you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 > PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all > the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there > is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is > there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to > run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Durand" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September > 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity > issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did > properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my > result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > contains no configuration information > > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of > 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the > following configuration information: > > Process Affinity > Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when > running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command > line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take > advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each > server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them > on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 > 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a prog
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Separate installs is not an option I'm afraid for a number of reasons: 1. Image size, 10 copies of a 20GB image is just not practical. 2. Hard coded affinity is impossible to work with in shared, multi game setup i.e. GSP environment. You could only hope to make this work by monitoring CPU requirements and moving servers around to fit the usage at any particular moment just like the OS scheduler does when its not hardcoded. I may be missing something but surely just removing the hardcoded thread affinity settings is a relatively simple fix is it not? I know iD has a similar issue with Quake 4 and after we pointed it out they released fix the next day and all was good :) Regards Steve - Original Message - From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with imagecfg.exe. I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having to mess with the affinity. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Please edit your responses so we don't all have to scroll down 10 pages to see what you have to say. - Original Message - From: ""[ЯтR] The-/ . Doesnt help if I cant set the affinity using imagecfg This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Additional: - D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -a 0x2 srcds_cpu2.exe srcds_cpu2.exe contains no configuration information srcds_cpu2.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds_cpu2.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. - > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:45 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & > Performance stats > > Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? > I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original > Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 > server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Mike > Durand wrote: > You could have a separate install for each > server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, > srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with > imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if > adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to > behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a > chance that it may and that would be a better solution for > you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 > PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all > the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there > is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is > there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to > run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Durand" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September > 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity > issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did > properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my > result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > contains no configuration information > > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of > 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the > following configuration information: > > Process Affinity > Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when > running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command > line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take > advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each > server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them > on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 > 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program such as > imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've >> > > >> > used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers > (HL1/2) onto other >> > > >> cores/processors when they > wanted to all stick to the first they found. >> > > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> > > >> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steven Hartland >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 > 11:00 AM >> > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > >> > Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & > Performance stats >> > > > > >> This is a multi-part message > in MIME format. >> > > >> -- >> >
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
I have tried imagecfg on my win2003 server ... Here my results: D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -u srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems D:\tf2_2fort\orangebox>imagecfg -a 0x1 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 Image can only run in uni-processor mode on multi-processor systems srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0001 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. - Andreas > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:45 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & > Performance stats > > Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? > I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original > Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 > server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Mike > Durand wrote: > You could have a separate install for each > server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, > srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with > imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if > adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to > behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a > chance that it may and that would be a better solution for > you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 > PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all > the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there > is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is > there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to > run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Durand" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September > 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity > issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did > properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my > result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > contains no configuration information > > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of > 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the > following configuration information: > > Process Affinity > Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when > running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command > line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take > advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each > server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them > on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 > 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: > [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance > stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program such as > imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've >> > > >> > used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers > (HL1/2) onto other >> > > >> cores/processors when they > wanted to all stick to the first they found. >> > > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> > > >> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The control panel software I have will reset the affinity 5 seconds after it starts, thus allowing Windows to distribute the load between multiple cpu's. Before I enabled this feature all processes were stacked on CPU0, now all our multicore CPU's are even across all cores. This is the same exact problem HLDS has, it will only bind to CPU0 unless you change affinity after it has started. Brandon R. Miller Branzone Incorporated http://www.branzone.com - Original Message - From: Mike Durand To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: > > Process Affinity Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've >> > > >> used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other >> > > >> cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. >> > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM >> > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats >> > > > > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> > > >> -- >> > >
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Has anyone else tried to set the affinity with imagecfg.exe? I can do it with no problems. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe > to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with > imagecfg.exe. > > > > I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line > of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is > a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having > to mess with the affinity. > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be > stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe > > > > I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our > capacity to run TF2 servers :( > > > > Regards > > Steve > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > > > Hi- > > > > That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force > srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: > > > > D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 > > C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration > information: > > Process Affinity Mask: 0002 > > > > Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? > > > > Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server > won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the > > system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started > them on. > > > > C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 > > > > -Mike > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] > The-/ > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:23 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > > > DLinkOZ wrote: > > >> Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've >> > > >> used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other >> > > >> cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. >> > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM >> > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats >> > > > > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Affinity Issue >> > > >> First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first >> > > >> core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is >> > > >> due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously >> > > >> causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've >> > > >> dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available >> > > >> quickly. >> > > > > >> In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should >> > > >> significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines >> > > >> to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously >> > > >> impacting gameplay. >> > > > > > > >> Memory leak >> > > >> Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. >>
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Mike Durand wrote: You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with imagecfg.exe. I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having to mess with the affinity. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( Regards Steve - Original Message - From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Hi- That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- __
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
You could have a separate install for each server or you could copy srcds.exe to srcds-cpu1.exe, srcds-cpu2.exe, etc. and set the affinity for each with imagecfg.exe. I'm going to experiment more and see if adding -threads 1 to the command line of a TF DS causes it to behave like a CSS DS. In looking at the code there is a chance that it may and that would be a better solution for you than having to mess with the affinity. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( Regards Steve - Original Message - From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Hi- That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've > used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other > cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > Affinity Issue > First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first > core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is > due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously > causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've > dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available > quickly. > > In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should > significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines > to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously > impacting gameplay. > > > Memory leak > Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. > > Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 > > As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play > continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't > have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based > leak. > > CPU Usage > With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with > a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player > ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to > bring this down an so keep the cost down. > > Network performance > Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps > so each client using ~ 47Kbps. > > Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots > > Regards > Steve > > > > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the > person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the > recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise > disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please > telephone +44 845 868 1337 > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] > -- > [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] > -- > > > __
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Steven Hartland wrote: Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( Regards Steve - Original Message - From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Hi- That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds imagecfg normally works with srcds but not the orangebox srcds, get this error: >imagecfg -a 0x2 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view t
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Unfortunately this wouldn't help at all as all the servers would then be stuck on a different CPU as there is only one srcds.exe I know its a big ask but is there an ETA on fix for this as its crippling our capacity to run TF2 servers :( Regards Steve - Original Message - From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats Hi- That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds imagecfg normally works with srcds but not the orangebox srcds, get this error: >imagecfg -a 0x2 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view th
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Hi- That's weird because I just did a test and imagecfg did properly force srcds.exe to whatever CPU I chose. Here's my result: D:\Dev\mdurand_main>imagecfg -a 0x2 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains no configuration information C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 C:\srcds\orangebox\srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 Does anyone else get this failure when running imagecfg.exe? Also, if you add the command line option -threads 1 the dedicated server won't try to take advantage of the other threads on the system so then each server will stay segregated on whatever core you started them on. C:\srcds\orangebox>srcds.exe -game tf -threads 1 -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "[??R] The-/ Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've > used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other > cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > Affinity Issue > First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first > core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is > due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously > causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've > dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available > quickly. > > In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should > significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines > to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously > impacting gameplay. > > > Memory leak > Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. > > Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 > > As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play > continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't > have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based > leak. > > CPU Usage > With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with > a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player > ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to > bring this down an so keep the cost down. > > Network performance > Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps > so each client using ~ 47Kbps. > > Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots > > Regards > Steve > > > > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the > person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the > recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise > disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please > telephone +44 845 868 1337 > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] > -- > [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > imagecfg normally works with srcds but not the orangebox srcds, get this error: >imagecfg -a 0x2 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
DLinkOZ wrote: Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds imagecfg normally works with srcds but not the orangebox srcds, get this error: >imagecfg -a 0x2 srcds.exe srcds.exe contains no configuration information srcds.exe contains a Subsystem Version of 4.0 srcds.exe updated with the following configuration information: Process Affinity Mask: 0002 IMAGECFG: Unable to update configuration information in image. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
At 11:59 AM 9/19/2007, Steven Hartland wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. I see this affinity issue as well, and I also see the memory leaks. It's almost like that old 1.6 bug with everything binding to CPU0. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
Would a program such as imagecfg not get around the affinity issue? I've used I for quite some time to get my other Valve servers (HL1/2) onto other cores/processors when they wanted to all stick to the first they found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] TF2 server Affinity issue, Memory leak & Performance stats
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Affinity Issue First off so people are aware the current server will only work on the first core of any multi core machines. I'm assuming this is due to the server threads having affinity set on them but this obviously causes major issues on multi CPU / Core machines. I've dropped Valve a mail about this, so I hope they can make a fix available quickly. In the mean time those who are running servers on SMP machines should significantly reduce the number of servers on their machines to ensure that the first core is not overloaded and hence seriously impacting gameplay. Memory leak Seems the current server has a bit of a memory leak which can be seen below. Team Fortress 2 - Performance @ 2.66Ghz Core2 As you can see memory ( the orange line ) is constantly rising as play continues. This is not the same on a server which doesn't have players so its either a play based leak or a player join / leave based leak. CPU Usage With respect to performance TF2's current CPU usage is on the high side with a 24 player TF2 using about the same as a 32 player ET:QW server so it would be nice to see if some optimisation can be done to bring this down an so keep the cost down. Network performance Network performance is good as usual with 105 player slots peaking @ 5Mbps so each client using ~ 47Kbps. Team Fortress 2 - Bandwidth peak = 105 Player slots Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ server_12606_day.png of type image/png deleted ] -- [ tf2_network.png of type image/png deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
