RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Valve has forsaken you foolish mortal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Here are a selection (Not even scratching the surface btw) of STEAM_ID's we know have been generated outside of the STEAM system STEAM_0:0:4252895 STEAM_0:1:4279614 STEAM_0:1:4294106 STEAM_0:0:4342345 STEAM_0:1:4361313 STEAM_0:0:4418181 STEAM_0:1:4417361 I think these may look familiar to a few other ISP's in my region Im afraid. What I've posted here, does not even represent 1% of the total number of STEAM_ID's we have banned that fall within these ranges. And we know its the same people because they have the audacity to come back with the same name and/or same IP a minute after being permanently banned. Valve if you are listening, what these people are doing in on the verge of industrial espionage, because they are not just being disruptive or even bothering to try and hide the fact they are cheating, they are systematically doing everything possible to devalue Valves Intellectual Property and Good Will. They rejoin so many times, change their IP addresses, to avoid the bans in such a systematic and calculated fashion that it appears as if this is their job to do so, not because they are little 12 year old retards. I think suing a few individual cheats for damage to your IP and good will would also go some way to stopping what these people appear to be doing in their efforts to destroy your and our hard work and investment in time and money! Cheers Whisper On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:31:30 +1000, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or > STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or > come back with a new STEAM_ID. > > > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site > > it seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the > > use of the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for > > regular users of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's > > > they're creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers > > > as-much - though I suppose that means less copies of half-life > > > bought =) > > > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Maybe they are getting paid for it... *doom music* Corporate scandal! Actually, myg0t are apparently sponsored by a fair few companies... Apparently... - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Seriously though What they are doing is too much like hard work You have seen them How long do you think you could sustain what these people are doing unless you were getting paid for it? On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:55:12 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, new accounts are probably up to that - there are legit people > getting new accounts tho so it's harder to tell. Generally whenever a > hacker comes back he's got one of those accounts. > > They must be pretty busy with the making email accounts and soforth so > they can create lots of steam accounts o.O > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or > STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or > come back with a new STEAM_ID. > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's > they're > > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though > I > > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Seriously though What they are doing is too much like hard work You have seen them How long do you think you could sustain what these people are doing unless you were getting paid for it? On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:55:12 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, new accounts are probably up to that - there are legit people > getting new accounts tho so it's harder to tell. Generally whenever a > hacker comes back he's got one of those accounts. > > They must be pretty busy with the making email accounts and soforth so > they can create lots of steam accounts o.O > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or > STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or > come back with a new STEAM_ID. > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's > they're > > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though > I > > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Heh, problem being that with vac disablers and most of the servers being hit having people under NDA's they'd have trouble getting the evidence and IP addresses for individual hackers. Perhaps some of the larger GSP's getting hit could forward on a collection of data to a VALVe representative (might be interesting to see what Gabe said if he suddenly had links to the IP addresses, demos and steamid's of several hundred hacker reports sitting in his inbox :p) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Here are a selection (Not even scratching the surface btw) of STEAM_ID's we know have been generated outside of the STEAM system STEAM_0:0:4252895 STEAM_0:1:4279614 STEAM_0:1:4294106 STEAM_0:0:4342345 STEAM_0:1:4361313 STEAM_0:0:4418181 STEAM_0:1:4417361 I think these may look familiar to a few other ISP's in my region Im afraid. What I've posted here, does not even represent 1% of the total number of STEAM_ID's we have banned that fall within these ranges. And we know its the same people because they have the audacity to come back with the same name and/or same IP a minute after being permanently banned. Valve if you are listening, what these people are doing in on the verge of industrial espionage, because they are not just being disruptive or even bothering to try and hide the fact they are cheating, they are systematically doing everything possible to devalue Valves Intellectual Property and Good Will. They rejoin so many times, change their IP addresses, to avoid the bans in such a systematic and calculated fashion that it appears as if this is their job to do so, not because they are little 12 year old retards. I think suing a few individual cheats for damage to your IP and good will would also go some way to stopping what these people appear to be doing in their efforts to destroy your and our hard work and investment in time and money! Cheers Whisper On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:31:30 +1000, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or > STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or > come back with a new STEAM_ID. > > > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Heh, new accounts are probably up to that - there are legit people getting new accounts tho so it's harder to tell. Generally whenever a hacker comes back he's got one of those accounts. They must be pretty busy with the making email accounts and soforth so they can create lots of steam accounts o.O - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or come back with a new STEAM_ID. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Here are a selection (Not even scratching the surface btw) of STEAM_ID's we know have been generated outside of the STEAM system STEAM_0:0:4252895 STEAM_0:1:4279614 STEAM_0:1:4294106 STEAM_0:0:4342345 STEAM_0:1:4361313 STEAM_0:0:4418181 STEAM_0:1:4417361 I think these may look familiar to a few other ISP's in my region Im afraid. What I've posted here, does not even represent 1% of the total number of STEAM_ID's we have banned that fall within these ranges. And we know its the same people because they have the audacity to come back with the same name and/or same IP a minute after being permanently banned. Valve if you are listening, what these people are doing in on the verge of industrial espionage, because they are not just being disruptive or even bothering to try and hide the fact they are cheating, they are systematically doing everything possible to devalue Valves Intellectual Property and Good Will. They rejoin so many times, change their IP addresses, to avoid the bans in such a systematic and calculated fashion that it appears as if this is their job to do so, not because they are little 12 year old retards. I think suing a few individual cheats for damage to your IP and good will would also go some way to stopping what these people appear to be doing in their efforts to destroy your and our hard work and investment in time and money! Cheers Whisper On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:31:30 +1000, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or > STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or > come back with a new STEAM_ID. > > > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
You know its getting to the point that if we see a STEAM_0:1:44xxx or STEAM_0:1:45xxx STEAM_ID we just ban them and see if they complain or come back with a new STEAM_ID. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:32:04 -0700, Stephen Micheals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good > valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it > seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of > the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users > of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. > > their website needs to be shut-down quick. > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nah that's a stupid name. > > > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
This new method for cheaters to play on steam servers without a good valid account is way too easy, from reading the info on their site it seems as if it could have been stoped easy if thay disable the use of the "Steam Client App configuration-override file" for regular users of steam and make a diffrent way for users to debug. their website needs to be shut-down quick. On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah that's a stupid name. > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if VUG is backing the effort to compromise steam... /me ponders some more. On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:37:55 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah that's a stupid name. > > On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're > creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I > suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 12:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > Hey! That's a good Idea!!! > > And perhaps we could call it Hmm ... WON! > Yeah that's it! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > They obviously hadn't thought it would come to this - and I don't blame > them. > > They should probably go back to the old auth style, which (from what I > understand) was something to do with sending an encrypted copy of your > key > to the server then it forwarded it on to the valve master server which > in > turn returned a wonid if it was valid? I dunno, something weird, but it > sort-of worked. > > Meh, I'd have to sit down and think about a really good solution, but > there > wouldn't be much point as chances are, someone over at VALVe is trying > to > figure one out right now :/ > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 1:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to > do > with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside > of > beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found > a > steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd > key. So > basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be > valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the > blob > file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for > free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check > on > launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game > has > previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka > Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in > place or not working. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Nah that's a stupid name. On the bright side of steam, instead of hackers stealing id's they're creating their own, so it doesn't affect the buyers as-much - though I suppose that means less copies of half-life bought =) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Hey! That's a good Idea!!! And perhaps we could call it Hmm ... WON! Yeah that's it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens They obviously hadn't thought it would come to this - and I don't blame them. They should probably go back to the old auth style, which (from what I understand) was something to do with sending an encrypted copy of your key to the server then it forwarded it on to the valve master server which in turn returned a wonid if it was valid? I dunno, something weird, but it sort-of worked. Meh, I'd have to sit down and think about a really good solution, but there wouldn't be much point as chances are, someone over at VALVe is trying to figure one out right now :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 1:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Hey! That's a good Idea!!! And perhaps we could call it Hmm ... WON! Yeah that's it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens They obviously hadn't thought it would come to this - and I don't blame them. They should probably go back to the old auth style, which (from what I understand) was something to do with sending an encrypted copy of your key to the server then it forwarded it on to the valve master server which in turn returned a wonid if it was valid? I dunno, something weird, but it sort-of worked. Meh, I'd have to sit down and think about a really good solution, but there wouldn't be much point as chances are, someone over at VALVe is trying to figure one out right now :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 1:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
"(I got an insanely high STEAMID and it makes me feel like an n00bie)" Truth hurts hey ;) Dw, mine's almost 2million :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Yeah, I just learned this too. I had problems using my original account for steam (that I made for my server), so today I logged on with it, bought a copy of HL off ebay (not the $5 a key BS, I paid $15 for the copy), and now I got a STEAMID 1182, thinking of changing my existing account to this one. :D (I got an insanely high STEAMID and it makes me feel like an n00bie) - voogru. -Original Message- From: NeoMatrix99 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Yeah, I just learned this too. I had problems using my original account for steam (that I made for my server), so today I logged on with it, bought a copy of HL off ebay (not the $5 a key BS, I paid $15 for the copy), and now I got a STEAMID 1182, thinking of changing my existing account to this one. :D (I got an insanely high STEAMID and it makes me feel like an n00bie) - voogru. -Original Message- From: NeoMatrix99 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
They obviously hadn't thought it would come to this - and I don't blame them. They should probably go back to the old auth style, which (from what I understand) was something to do with sending an encrypted copy of your key to the server then it forwarded it on to the valve master server which in turn returned a wonid if it was valid? I dunno, something weird, but it sort-of worked. Meh, I'd have to sit down and think about a really good solution, but there wouldn't be much point as chances are, someone over at VALVe is trying to figure one out right now :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 1:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Upon creation of a steam account your given a steamid, it has nothing to do with a cd key. I found this out back when steam first launched outside of beta when I made an account for a server. In the steam log file I found a steamid which had been given to me without me having to input any cd key. So basically with each valid email they get a new account or it used to be valid anyway. Do they still require authentication? And then using the blob file from their valid account they login and play games with any id for free. Now to fix this I would think valve should require a cdkey check on launch of the game to ensure that the account that is starting the game has previously inputed a valid cd key for that game or the original game aka Half-Life. Because obviously some form of cd key check is either not in place or not working. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Happens when steam goes down (generally happens nightly around 1am GMT+10, no idea why). Try again 30 mins later. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Anyone else have steam auth problems? When I start my PC it asks for Steam password which says could not log in. I guess I should not have made that comment about Valve Employees updating their resumes. Sorry Valve lord and master. (he bows and grovels) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on bothering peaple in there server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Anyone else have steam auth problems? When I start my PC it asks for Steam password which says could not log in. I guess I should not have made that comment about Valve Employees updating their resumes. Sorry Valve lord and master. (he bows and grovels) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on bothering peaple in there server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
You haven't been reading this post. We are talking about how do deal with hackers who seriously bother us and all our players. Not ordinary players who are following the rules. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on bothering peaple in there server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
No word from Alfred yet, though I can only assume he's monitoring the thread and not replying simply because people have a habbit of pouncing on him with stupid questions about when HL2 is going to be released (re: Linux mailing list). I haven't experimented with mods yet, but I wouldn't clear Natural Selection from the firing line yet =) It's a pretty big hole; I'm thinking VALVe will need to get their STEAM guys to do some major work to fix this up, since they are, essentially, providing Half-Life to anyone who wishes to play it for free - which isn't good for business =) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens this is one reason why i switched to natural selection almost a year ago :) as for this steam expliot, i only hope that something is devised quickly to correct it, or at the very least, patch it - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on > bothering peaple in there server. > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
this is one reason why i switched to natural selection almost a year ago :) as for this steam expliot, i only hope that something is devised quickly to correct it, or at the very least, patch it - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on bothering peaple in there server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] this is why i stoped playing cs. all the lil jerkoffs that get off on bothering peaple in there server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] sorry, wrong text. but unbindall is VERY effective. David Fencik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why would you want to "say unbindall"? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CyberGameZone.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Kinda like I do for the Hackers that get caught. amx_blank amx_saveblank amx_clexexec name -console "say unbindall" That REALLY pisses them off. Oh oh, is this a sign of admin abuse? Think NOT. --- Dennis wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed > up and all my players > > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a > player like that and we > > all played while he danced around the map until he > got tired and > > left. I did > > this every round. > > HAHAHAHAHA > > Really pissed them off. > > > > > LMFAO!!! I love it! > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > = YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Why would you want to "say unbindall"? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CyberGameZone.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Kinda like I do for the Hackers that get caught. amx_blank amx_saveblank amx_clexexec name -console "say unbindall" That REALLY pisses them off. Oh oh, is this a sign of admin abuse? Think NOT. --- Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed > up and all my players > > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a > player like that and we > > all played while he danced around the map until he > got tired and > > left. I did > > this every round. > > HAHAHAHAHA > > Really pissed them off. > > > > > LMFAO!!! I love it! > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > = YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Yeah, how many times do you hear the "stop messing with my config or I'm gonna sue you" ROFLMAO - Original Message - From: "CyberGameZone.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Kinda like I do for the Hackers that get caught. amx_blank amx_saveblank amx_clexexec name -console "say unbindall" That REALLY pisses them off. Oh oh, is this a sign of admin abuse? Think NOT. --- Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed up and all my players > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a player like that and we > all played while he danced around the map until he got tired and > left. I did > this every round. > HAHAHAHAHA > Really pissed them off. > LMFAO!!! I love it! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds = YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Kinda like I do for the Hackers that get caught. amx_blank amx_saveblank amx_clexexec name -console "say unbindall" That REALLY pisses them off. Oh oh, is this a sign of admin abuse? Think NOT. --- Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed > up and all my players > > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a > player like that and we > > all played while he danced around the map until he > got tired and > > left. I did > > this every round. > > HAHAHAHAHA > > Really pissed them off. > > > > > LMFAO!!! I love it! > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > = YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
That sounds awesome, is there actually a mod out like that - that we're able to gain access to? Had fun with d00zer earlier, since he's impossible to beat with steamid's, I just slapped him 10 times with 10 damage (for fun) to kill him whenever he was about to get someone =) Worked awesomely, he left after a few tries at coming back with different ID's/IPs =) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens Its more fun to make a mod that reverses their tracelines, so no matter what they hit, it hits them. You see players killing themselves with knives, shotguns, any hitscan type weapon. Cheater goes wtf, and leaves eventually; they can't do anything, but kill themselves. Aimbot makes it so they die even faster. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed up and all my players > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a player like that and we > all played while he danced around the map until he got tired and > left. I did > this every round. > HAHAHAHAHA > Really pissed them off. > LMFAO!!! I love it! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
Its more fun to make a mod that reverses their tracelines, so no matter what they hit, it hits them. You see players killing themselves with knives, shotguns, any hitscan type weapon. Cheater goes wtf, and leaves eventually; they can't do anything, but kill themselves. Aimbot makes it so they die even faster. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed up and all my players > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a player like that and we > all played while he danced around the map until he got tired and > left. I did > this every round. > HAHAHAHAHA > Really pissed them off. > LMFAO!!! I love it! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC... and Steam keygens > > > When I had my server, (before the list got screwed up and all my players > couldn't find me so I sold it and gave up), > I used to put an infinite slap with 0 damage on a player like that and we > all played while he danced around the map until he got tired and > left. I did > this every round. > HAHAHAHAHA > Really pissed them off. > LMFAO!!! I love it! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds