Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Ok... This is what I did: I shut down HLDS Emptied banned.cfg Write protected it Started HLDS Wrote writeid in console Got message cannot write to banned.cfg Shutdown HLDS Took away read only Started HLDS Wrote writeid in console Checked banned.cfg and there were all the 188 Steam ID's again! Pretty frustrating. :-( The reason why I want this to work is that I cannot edit the banned.cfg file as I want. When I want to add a bunch of ID's they dissapear after writeid get send to console. Only those registrated by writeid are left in the banned.cfg file. //DiS|Fox From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about CS which has the file called banned.cfg, but did you try uploading your correct banned.cfg after making it a read only file that cannot be overwritten, then issue the writeid command at console which cannot overwrite your temporary read only version, but may replace the cache version stored somewhere, then re-upload a replacement banned.cfg which has the same data, but is not read only protected after you resolve it? _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
When I say exiting HLDS (HLDS.EXE) I mean write exit in console. By shutting down the server I mean shutting down the computer on which HL server is installed. //DiS|Fox From: Roc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, 1. You NEED to COMPLETELY shut down HLDS/server 2. THEN delete/edit the banned.cfg 3. THEN start HLDS/server 4. Why are you listing exiting HLDS then shutting down server when they are one in the same Regards Agent 001Fox wrote: Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
If it would be stored in memmory it should be gone when I shut down the server (the actual computer). This is not the case. I tried to emty it with removeid command and that helps. I check it with listid and they are gone. Until someone get's banned again. Then they are there again! Frustrating... //DiS|Fox From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cache is not stored anywhere. It is loaded into memory from the banned.cfg file and may also be added to or subtracted from using the addid or removeid commands. Dave _ Auktioner: Tjäna en hacka på gamla prylar http://tradera.msn.se ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Regardless, if you listen to the listed instructions 1 thru 3 it WILL work! Remember, if you use Firedaemon or ServerDoc to run your server you must shut those programs or they will simply restart the server over and over! Cheers Agent 001Fox wrote: When I say exiting HLDS (HLDS.EXE) I mean write exit in console. By shutting down the server I mean shutting down the computer on which HL server is installed. //DiS|Fox From: Roc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, 1. You NEED to COMPLETELY shut down HLDS/server 2. THEN delete/edit the banned.cfg 3. THEN start HLDS/server 4. Why are you listing exiting HLDS then shutting down server when they are one in the same Regards Agent 001Fox wrote: Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
You might also check what additional mods you are running on the server, they may be doing something odd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:56 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Regardless, if you listen to the listed instructions 1 thru 3 it WILL work! Remember, if you use Firedaemon or ServerDoc to run your server you must shut those programs or they will simply restart the server over and over! Cheers Agent 001Fox wrote: When I say exiting HLDS (HLDS.EXE) I mean write exit in console. By shutting down the server I mean shutting down the computer on which HL server is installed. //DiS|Fox From: Roc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, 1. You NEED to COMPLETELY shut down HLDS/server 2. THEN delete/edit the banned.cfg 3. THEN start HLDS/server 4. Why are you listing exiting HLDS then shutting down server when they are one in the same Regards Agent 001Fox wrote: Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
The mods I'm running: StatsMme v2.8.0.15, AMX v0.9.9, MetaMod v1.17.1 and WebMod 0.47. Going to disable them tomorrow morning and see if it helps to get a clean banned.cfg file. Haven't tried that before, so sounds like a good idea! Thanx! //DiS|Fox From: Deadman Standing [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might also check what additional mods you are running on the server, they may be doing something odd. _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
If those steps are not working, then you are not working with the banned.cfg file on the server you think you are. What you are reporting is impossible, so either you are dealing with multiple installations, or you don't have the banned.cfg in the folder you think you do, or you did not disable the file explorer folder options of hide extensions for known file types and are dealing with a true file name of banned.cfg.txt or something along that line. This issue is just not any more complicated that what we have told you to do. The problem is on your end (i.e. operator error). - Original Message - From: Deadman Standing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:40 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache You might also check what additional mods you are running on the server, they may be doing something odd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:56 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Regardless, if you listen to the listed instructions 1 thru 3 it WILL work! Remember, if you use Firedaemon or ServerDoc to run your server you must shut those programs or they will simply restart the server over and over! Cheers Agent 001Fox wrote: When I say exiting HLDS (HLDS.EXE) I mean write exit in console. By shutting down the server I mean shutting down the computer on which HL server is installed. //DiS|Fox From: Roc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, 1. You NEED to COMPLETELY shut down HLDS/server 2. THEN delete/edit the banned.cfg 3. THEN start HLDS/server 4. Why are you listing exiting HLDS then shutting down server when they are one in the same Regards Agent 001Fox wrote: Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
the file is banned_user.cfg Mikee wrote: If those steps are not working, then you are not working with the banned.cfg file on the server you think you are. What you are reporting is impossible, so either you are dealing with multiple installations, or you don't have the banned.cfg in the folder you think you do, or you did not disable the file explorer folder options of hide extensions for known file types and are dealing with a true file name of banned.cfg.txt or something along that line. This issue is just not any more complicated that what we have told you to do. The problem is on your end (i.e. operator error). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
It's banned.cfg in CS 1.6 //DiS|Fox From: wArgOd [EMAIL PROTECTED] the file is banned_user.cfg _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
From: Deadman Standing [EMAIL PROTECTED] In CS1.6 they are stored in banned.cfg . You can use removeid id to remove a player from banned.cfg and use writeid to store the current list of banned players to banned.cfg . Ex: removeid STEAM_0:0:23452345 writeid *** I tried that. *** And every time I write listid it seems OK, but *** next time the server starts up they're all there again You can also modify banned.cfg manually if hlds is NOT running. Ex: 1) Stop hlds 2) modify and save changes to banned.cfg 3) Restart hlds Note: If you modify banned.cfg WHILE hlds is running hlds may recreate the file, especially if someone new is banned, and overwrite any changes you made. *** Also tried that, even had the *** banned.cfg removed completly so it *** had to regenerate a new banned.cfg. *** Still no luck. -Original Message- It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox _ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a good question about where the ban's are stored in cache of the server, you might look at the files that are modified most recently, such as the the blob files. I know what you are dealing with, but I could always resolve that cache by shutting down the server and editing the file before restarting. *** Sorry, but that doesn't help when I trie that... :-) This is going to sound really insulting, which I don't mean it to becoming from the old ban files, I did not realize at first that all bans are now put in banned_user.cfg and banned_ip.cfg instead of the old file names (banned.cfg banip.cfg). I just want to make sure you are working with the correct file because I made that mistake. *** But when I delete the banned.cfg file it recreates *** it again as banned.cfg and not banned_user.cfg. *** Is this in CS Source? I have a CS 1.6 server. If you are still having the same problem, maybe consider uploading the corrected banned_user.cfg file after making it read only, and then manually type a console command to exec banned_user.cfg which should put it into cache, then re-upload another non-read only version. Like Deadman Standing suggested, the removeid and writeid might be the easiest. My other suggestion is to just use the latest 1.0.0.41 version of HL Server Watch (www.hlsw.net), and remove the bans from thereit is very fast and efficient. Good Luck! *** Downloaded the program and waiting until someone *** get's banned to see if it works. :-) From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try again. Dave -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about CS which has the file called banned.cfg, but did you try uploading your correct banned.cfg after making it a read only file that cannot be overwritten, then issue the writeid command at console which cannot overwrite your temporary read only version, but may replace the cache version stored somewhere, then re-upload a replacement banned.cfg which has the same data, but is not read only protected after you resolve it? - Original Message - From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a good question about where the ban's are stored in cache of the server, you might look at the files that are modified most recently, such as the the blob files. I know what you are dealing with, but I could always resolve that cache by shutting down the server and editing the file before restarting. *** Sorry, but that doesn't help when I trie that... :-) This is going to sound really insulting, which I don't mean it to becoming from the old ban files, I did not realize at first that all bans are now put in banned_user.cfg and banned_ip.cfg instead of the old file names (banned.cfg banip.cfg). I just want to make sure you are working with the correct file because I made that mistake. *** But when I delete the banned.cfg file it recreates *** it again as banned.cfg and not banned_user.cfg. *** Is this in CS Source? I have a CS 1.6 server. If you are still having the same problem, maybe consider uploading the corrected banned_user.cfg file after making it read only, and then manually type a console command to exec banned_user.cfg which should put it into cache, then re-upload another non-read only version. Like Deadman Standing suggested, the removeid and writeid might be the easiest. My other suggestion is to just use the latest 1.0.0.41 version of HL Server Watch (www.hlsw.net), and remove the bans from thereit is very fast and efficient. Good Luck! *** Downloaded the program and waiting until someone *** get's banned to see if it works. :-) From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try again. Dave -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Then you are doing something wrong. Is this a lan server or are you banning by ip maybe? Do you exec a different file that contains bans in server.cfg? Are you sure the hlds process is exiting? Basically if hlds is not running and you delete banned.cfg there is nothing to recreate it, in a default hlds config. You can also modify banned.cfg manually if hlds is NOT running. Ex: 1) Stop hlds 2) modify and save changes to banned.cfg 3) Restart hlds Note: If you modify banned.cfg WHILE hlds is running hlds may recreate the file, especially if someone new is banned, and overwrite any changes you made. *** Also tried that, even had the *** banned.cfg removed completly so it *** had to regenerate a new banned.cfg. *** Still no luck. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
The cache is not stored anywhere. It is loaded into memory from the banned.cfg file and may also be added to or subtracted from using the addid or removeid commands. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:40 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about CS which has the file called banned.cfg, but did you try uploading your correct banned.cfg after making it a read only file that cannot be overwritten, then issue the writeid command at console which cannot overwrite your temporary read only version, but may replace the cache version stored somewhere, then re-upload a replacement banned.cfg which has the same data, but is not read only protected after you resolve it? - Original Message - From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a good question about where the ban's are stored in cache of the server, you might look at the files that are modified most recently, such as the the blob files. I know what you are dealing with, but I could always resolve that cache by shutting down the server and editing the file before restarting. *** Sorry, but that doesn't help when I trie that... :-) This is going to sound really insulting, which I don't mean it to becoming from the old ban files, I did not realize at first that all bans are now put in banned_user.cfg and banned_ip.cfg instead of the old file names (banned.cfg banip.cfg). I just want to make sure you are working with the correct file because I made that mistake. *** But when I delete the banned.cfg file it recreates *** it again as banned.cfg and not banned_user.cfg. *** Is this in CS Source? I have a CS 1.6 server. If you are still having the same problem, maybe consider uploading the corrected banned_user.cfg file after making it read only, and then manually type a console command to exec banned_user.cfg which should put it into cache, then re-upload another non-read only version. Like Deadman Standing suggested, the removeid and writeid might be the easiest. My other suggestion is to just use the latest 1.0.0.41 version of HL Server Watch (www.hlsw.net), and remove the bans from thereit is very fast and efficient. Good Luck! *** Downloaded the program and waiting until someone *** get's banned to see if it works. :-) From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try again. Dave -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent001Fox Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
No worries Mikee... :-) I dowloaded HL Server Watch and waited until someone got banned. And like expected it had all the Steam ID's in it when a bann occured. I removed all through HLSW and klicked on Update and Write. Now the banned.cfg was empty, but when I checked after an hour it was loaded whith all the ID's again!!! Tomorrow morning I'm going to try the read only method... I'll hear from me then! :-) //DiS|Fox From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about CS which has the file called banned.cfg, but did you try uploading your correct banned.cfg after making it a read only file that cannot be overwritten, then issue the writeid command at console which cannot overwrite your temporary read only version, but may replace the cache version stored somewhere, then re-upload a replacement banned.cfg which has the same data, but is not read only protected after you resolve it? _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox From: Deadman Standing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then you are doing something wrong. Is this a lan server or are you banning by ip maybe? Do you exec a different file that contains bans in server.cfg? Are you sure the hlds process is exiting? Basically if hlds is not running and you delete banned.cfg there is nothing to recreate it, in a default hlds config. _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Hi, 1. You NEED to COMPLETELY shut down HLDS/server 2. THEN delete/edit the banned.cfg 3. THEN start HLDS/server 4. Why are you listing exiting HLDS then shutting down server when they are one in the same Regards Agent 001Fox wrote: Well... I run the server at my home. I exit HLDS empty the banned.cfg shutdown the server start the server start HLDS ban someone by Steam ID banned.cfg suddenly full of old banned Steam ID's In server.cfg I have exec banned.cfg I know it sounds crazy, so that's why I think there is some file that saves the ID's in a cache or something. Gonna try Mikee's method tomorrow morning (make the banned.cfg read-only). //DiS|Fox From: Deadman Standing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then you are doing something wrong. Is this a lan server or are you banning by ip maybe? Do you exec a different file that contains bans in server.cfg? Are you sure the hlds process is exiting? Basically if hlds is not running and you delete banned.cfg there is nothing to recreate it, in a default hlds config. _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc5-f20.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:25 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a8s-0003ju-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0800 Received: from [194.19.1.186] (helo=mailrelay.banetele.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a6o-0003dp-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:58 -0800 Received: from [195.204.47.59] (HELO croesus.ideas.no) by mailrelay.banetele.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 19173952 for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.44] (helo=akos)by croesus.ideas.no with esmtp (Exim 4.24 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a40-0004t6-Epfor hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:04 +0100 X-Message-Info: 9FGFoCED9ZPsOVe6+4VPHLgJDgzD827fcmLZUfViCWo= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com List-Subscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds.list.valvesoftware.com List-Unsubscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/ X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 07:41:25.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[68BE8B90:01C51B0D] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: 25. februar 2005 08:17 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 _ Chatt: Träffa nya nätkompisar på Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
Try again. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:49 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc5-f20.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:25 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a8s-0003ju-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0800 Received: from [194.19.1.186] (helo=mailrelay.banetele.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a6o-0003dp-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:58 -0800 Received: from [195.204.47.59] (HELO croesus.ideas.no) by mailrelay.banetele.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 19173952 for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.44] (helo=akos)by croesus.ideas.no with esmtp (Exim 4.24 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a40-0004t6-Epfor hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:04 +0100 X-Message-Info: 9FGFoCED9ZPsOVe6+4VPHLgJDgzD827fcmLZUfViCWo= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com List-Subscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:hlds-requ [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds.list.valvesoftware.com List-Unsubscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:hlds-requ [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/ X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 07:41:25.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[68BE8B90:01C51B0D] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: 25. februar 2005 08:17 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 _ Chatt: Träffa nya nätkompisar på Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Hitta rätt på nätet med MSN Sök http://search.msn.se/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:43:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc4-f3.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:45:27 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4hhK-00035b-00; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:48:10 -0800 Received: from [217.160.230.41] (helo=mout.perfora.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4hez-0002tY-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:45:45 -0800 Received: from c-24-0-219-172.client.comcast.net[24.0.219.172] (helo=DaveMobile)by mrelay.perfora.net with ESMTP (Nemesis),id 0MKz1m-1D4hcI459c-0005FJ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:42:58 -0500 X-Message-Info: vVxZrSStbkmx4OJfp8/ZWJdsz6Nvi0jHhDxnlM2JkOI= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Provags-ID: perfora.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] login:f3ffe8ab3a2945f71e79e85bd088f49b Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com List-Subscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds.list.valvesoftware.com List-Unsubscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/ X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:43:04 -0500 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 15:45:27.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[0759BE30:01C51B51] Try again. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:49 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc5-f20.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:25 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a8s-0003ju-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0800 Received: from [194.19.1.186] (helo=mailrelay.banetele.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a6o-0003dp-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:58 -0800 Received: from [195.204.47.59] (HELO croesus.ideas.no) by mailrelay.banetele.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 19173952 for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.44] (helo=akos)by croesus.ideas.no with esmtp (Exim 4.24 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a40-0004t6-Epfor hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:39:04 +0100 X-Message-Info: 9FGFoCED9ZPsOVe6+4VPHLgJDgzD827fcmLZUfViCWo= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com List-Subscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:hlds-requ [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds.list.valvesoftware.com List-Unsubscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:hlds-requ [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/ X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 07:41:25.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[68BE8B90:01C51B0D] My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
In CS1.6 they are stored in banned.cfg . You can use removeid id to remove a player from banned.cfg and use writeid to store the current list of banned players to banned.cfg . Ex: removeid STEAM_0:0:23452345 writeid You can also modify banned.cfg manually if hlds is NOT running. Ex: 1) Stop hlds 2) modify and save changes to banned.cfg 3) Restart hlds Note: If you modify banned.cfg WHILE hlds is running hlds may recreate the file, especially if someone new is banned, and overwrite any changes you made. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
That is a good question about where the ban's are stored in cache of the server, you might look at the files that are modified most recently, such as the the blob files. I know what you are dealing with, but I could always resolve that cache by shutting down the server and editing the file before restarting. This is going to sound really insulting, which I don't mean it to becoming from the old ban files, I did not realize at first that all bans are now put in banned_user.cfg and banned_ip.cfg instead of the old file names (banned.cfg banip.cfg). I just want to make sure you are working with the correct file because I made that mistake. If you are still having the same problem, maybe consider uploading the corrected banned_user.cfg file after making it read only, and then manually type a console command to exec banned_user.cfg which should put it into cache, then re-upload another non-read only version. Like Deadman Standing suggested, the removeid and writeid might be the easiest. My other suggestion is to just use the latest 1.0.0.41 version of HL Server Watch (www.hlsw.net), and remove the bans from thereit is very fast and efficient. Good Luck! - Original Message - From: Agent 001Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache It doesn't matter how many times I try. Even if I restart the server (not HLDS but the actual computer) and empty the banned.cfg it still writes in all the Steam ID's as soon as someone gets banned. What I want to know is where all the Steam ID's are stored so I can empty it's cache. Not even Valve's staff seems to know. ;-) //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: David Fencik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:43:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc4-f3.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:45:27 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4hhK-00035b-00; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:48:10 -0800 Received: from [217.160.230.41] (helo=mout.perfora.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4hez-0002tY-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:45:45 -0800 Received: from c-24-0-219-172.client.comcast.net[24.0.219.172] (helo=DaveMobile)by mrelay.perfora.net with ESMTP (Nemesis),id 0MKz1m-1D4hcI459c-0005FJ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:42:58 -0500 X-Message-Info: vVxZrSStbkmx4OJfp8/ZWJdsz6Nvi0jHhDxnlM2JkOI= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Provags-ID: perfora.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] login:f3ffe8ab3a2945f71e79e85bd088f49b Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com List-Subscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds.list.valvesoftware.com List-Unsubscribe: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/ X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:43:04 -0500 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 15:45:27.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[0759BE30:01C51B51] Try again. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:49 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Already tried that, and it doesn't work. I forgot to mention that it is a CS 1.6 server. //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc5-f20.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:25 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a8s-0003ju-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0800 Received: from [194.19.1.186] (helo=mailrelay.banetele.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1D4a6o-0003dp-00for hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:41:58 -0800 Received: from [195.204.47.59] (HELO croesus.ideas.no) by mailrelay.banetele.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 19173952 for hlds
RE: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache
My guess would be to shut down your server, edit the banned.cfg, then restart the server. Since the server reads from banned.cfg into the cache when it starts (right?). -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agent 001Fox Sent: 25. februar 2005 08:17 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] How to empty banned.cfg's cache Because I sometimes manually update my banned.cfg I cannot get rid of some Steam ID's. Is there any way to empty the banned.cfg's cache? Some file I can delete/rename or something like that? //DiS|Fox Homepage: http://www.sweDiS.se/ Server: http://dis1.hopto.org:27015 _ Chatt: Träffa nya nätkompisar på Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
