Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Doesn't it fall back to the .bsp if the .bsp.bz2 fails? 2009/5/28 Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Yes it does, but what he's saying is in his log, the client never tries to get .bsp.bz2... it never requests that, it only requests .bsp. It's not even trying .bz2. (otherwise we'd see that in the log) On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Philip Bembridge philipbembri...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't it fall back to the .bsp if the .bsp.bz2 fails? 2009/5/28 Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
First, you need to learn how to interpret Apache access/error logs; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 Let's cut it down; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] == Access Date/Time GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 == Command received, in this case, GET this file This is the important part coming up; 200 33975300 200 is a HTTP code for OK, 33975300 is the filesize The next line, 404 is HTTP code for Not Found. As you can see, in the above lines, the second line has 404 instead of 200. This means the .bsp file is not there, or could not be read by your server. Check your servers orangebox/tf/maps directory. You either only have the .bz2 file there, or the bsp is not readable by your apache server. Hope this helps. ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
You have you copy the files and structure exactly. Google sourcercs. It is a program I use to sync the download server to the ds. It solved all my problems. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:23:36 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Shane, I think you're missing the point -- we know the BSP isn't there, it shouldn't be. The client should be requesting the .bsp.bz2 file and isn't. Read the log file again: Line one is from IP address 84.XXX.XXX.XXX -- this client requests .bsp.bz2 and receives it fine. Line two is from client 82.XXX.XXX.XXX (Note the different first octet) -- this client does not request the .bsp.bz2 file, instead it requests .bsp only, which obviously returns the 404. The problem is that the 82 client should be requesting the bsp.bz2 file, and it isn't. There's something wrong with that client, either the first request got lost, the client timed out, something happened.. I don't think there's much server side that can be done. Something's up with that client computer. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au wrote: First, you need to learn how to interpret Apache access/error logs; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 Let's cut it down; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] == Access Date/Time GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 == Command received, in this case, GET this file This is the important part coming up; 200 33975300 200 is a HTTP code for OK, 33975300 is the filesize The next line, 404 is HTTP code for Not Found. As you can see, in the above lines, the second line has 404 instead of 200. This means the .bsp file is not there, or could not be read by your server. Check your servers orangebox/tf/maps directory. You either only have the .bz2 file there, or the bsp is not readable by your apache server. Hope this helps. ___ Shane Arnold - clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
I understand the logs, It's 404 because i don't host the .bsp files. There shouldn't be a need to have people download non compressed files which is why i only host the .bsp.bz2 files. I'm just curious if anyone knows why a client might be looking for the .bsp first instead of the .bsp.bz2 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com on behalf of Shane Arnold Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 11:10 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp First, you need to learn how to interpret Apache access/error logs; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 Let's cut it down; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] == Access Date/Time GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 == Command received, in this case, GET this file This is the important part coming up; 200 33975300 200 is a HTTP code for OK, 33975300 is the filesize The next line, 404 is HTTP code for Not Found. As you can see, in the above lines, the second line has 404 instead of 200. This means the .bsp file is not there, or could not be read by your server. Check your servers orangebox/tf/maps directory. You either only have the .bz2 file there, or the bsp is not readable by your apache server. Hope this helps. ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Sorry, didn't spot the different IP addresses (skim read for the win). You're absolutely right :) ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: Shane, I think you're missing the point -- we know the BSP isn't there, it shouldn't be. The client should be requesting the .bsp.bz2 file and isn't. Read the log file again: Line one is from IP address 84.XXX.XXX.XXX -- this client requests .bsp.bz2 and receives it fine. Line two is from client 82.XXX.XXX.XXX (Note the different first octet) -- this client does not request the .bsp.bz2 file, instead it requests .bsp only, which obviously returns the 404. The problem is that the 82 client should be requesting the bsp.bz2 file, and it isn't. There's something wrong with that client, either the first request got lost, the client timed out, something happened.. I don't think there's much server side that can be done. Something's up with that client computer. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au wrote: First, you need to learn how to interpret Apache access/error logs; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 Let's cut it down; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] == Access Date/Time GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 == Command received, in this case, GET this file This is the important part coming up; 200 33975300 200 is a HTTP code for OK, 33975300 is the filesize The next line, 404 is HTTP code for Not Found. As you can see, in the above lines, the second line has 404 instead of 200. This means the .bsp file is not there, or could not be read by your server. Check your servers orangebox/tf/maps directory. You either only have the .bz2 file there, or the bsp is not readable by your apache server. Hope this helps. ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
you need apache directory listing on On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.auwrote: Sorry, didn't spot the different IP addresses (skim read for the win). You're absolutely right :) ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: Shane, I think you're missing the point -- we know the BSP isn't there, it shouldn't be. The client should be requesting the .bsp.bz2 file and isn't. Read the log file again: Line one is from IP address 84.XXX.XXX.XXX -- this client requests .bsp.bz2 and receives it fine. Line two is from client 82.XXX.XXX.XXX (Note the different first octet) -- this client does not request the .bsp.bz2 file, instead it requests .bsp only, which obviously returns the 404. The problem is that the 82 client should be requesting the bsp.bz2 file, and it isn't. There's something wrong with that client, either the first request got lost, the client timed out, something happened.. I don't think there's much server side that can be done. Something's up with that client computer. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au wrote: First, you need to learn how to interpret Apache access/error logs; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 Let's cut it down; [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] == Access Date/Time GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 == Command received, in this case, GET this file This is the important part coming up; 200 33975300 200 is a HTTP code for OK, 33975300 is the filesize The next line, 404 is HTTP code for Not Found. As you can see, in the above lines, the second line has 404 instead of 200. This means the .bsp file is not there, or could not be read by your server. Check your servers orangebox/tf/maps directory. You either only have the .bz2 file there, or the bsp is not readable by your apache server. Hope this helps. ___ Shane Arnold- clontar...@iinet.net.au For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost. Steven Sumichrast wrote: What are you using for your CVAR? That almost make me feel like the first HTTP request not even making it to the web server. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could host both the bsp and bsp.bz2 to work around it. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Chris Oryschak ch...@oryschak.com wrote: Anyone have this problem where clients that are downloading maps from the sv_downloadurl sometimes don't look for the .bsp.bz2 and just look for the .bsp on the webserver. Example: 84.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:50:08 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x- - [28/May/2009:09:52:17 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 86.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:52:20 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 206 32574468 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 82.x - - [28/May/2009:09:52:33 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp HTTP/1.1 404 289 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 24.xx - - [28/May/2009:09:54:40 -0400] GET /maps/pl_mill_b5.bsp.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 33975300 hl2://71.251.204.27:27018 Half-Life 2 See how the ip address 82.x (both the same person) is trying to download the .bsp and not .bsp.bz2 Any idea why this happens and if there is a way to fix it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)?You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:24:24 -0500 From: Steven Sumichrast packh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Message-ID: 2f5e62a0905280824m11ec5dd8laf88f1af02308...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Shane, I think you're missing the point -- we know the BSP isn't there, it shouldn't be. The client should be requesting the .bsp.bz2 file and isn't. Read the log file again: Line one is from IP address 84.XXX.XXX.XXX -- this client requests .bsp.bz2 and receives it fine. Line two is from client 82.XXX.XXX.XXX (Note the different first octet) -- this client does not request the .bsp.bz2 file, instead it requests .bsp only, which obviously returns the 404. The problem is that the 82 client should be requesting the bsp.bz2 file, and it isn't. There's something wrong with that client, either the first request got lost, the client timed out, something happened.. I don't think there's much server side that can be done. Something's up with that client computer. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)?You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
The only thing about leeches is if they don't have the same maps it won't be useful to them. On 5/28/09, HoundDawg houndd...@dawgpaw.com wrote: If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)?You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
It downloaded the BZ2, decompressed it, and its hashed failed on the client, and therefore is now looking for the other file. I had this problem before. Do a SHA1 and MD5 Hash on the bsp file on your game server. Then do an SHA1 and MD5 has on the uncompressed map on your map server. This is what I do: My local game server, does a nightly SHA/MD5 Has on all bsp files, and then create file, with mapnames/sha/md5, and put them in a private website on the map server. Then my DL Server will go out, grab the list file, decompress, and recheck the sha/md5, if it failes it will auto pull down from the game server the correct map. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HoundDawg Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)?You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
William, did you note the different IP addresses for the GETs? The bz2 was from one address, the bsp was from another. Unlikely that this was a hashing issue... It really seems like the client's initial request never got to the server. In that case, not much can be done about this. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, William Stillwell ki4swy.va...@kotbh.net wrote: It downloaded the BZ2, decompressed it, and its hashed failed on the client, and therefore is now looking for the other file. I had this problem before. Do a SHA1 and MD5 Hash on the bsp file on your game server. Then do an SHA1 and MD5 has on the uncompressed map on your map server. This is what I do: My local game server, does a nightly SHA/MD5 Has on all bsp files, and then create file, with mapnames/sha/md5, and put them in a private website on the map server. Then my DL Server will go out, grab the list file, decompress, and recheck the sha/md5, if it failes it will auto pull down from the game server the correct map. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HoundDawg Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)? You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Ahh.. I just assumed they were the same client.. Maybe user has something block requests for .bz2 files? Or running some kind of client hack? Hmm.. weird William Stillwell -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sumichrast Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:36 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just ..bsp William, did you note the different IP addresses for the GETs? The bz2 was from one address, the bsp was from another. Unlikely that this was a hashing issue... It really seems like the client's initial request never got to the server. In that case, not much can be done about this. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, William Stillwell ki4swy.va...@kotbh.net wrote: It downloaded the BZ2, decompressed it, and its hashed failed on the client, and therefore is now looking for the other file. I had this problem before. Do a SHA1 and MD5 Hash on the bsp file on your game server. Then do an SHA1 and MD5 has on the uncompressed map on your map server. This is what I do: My local game server, does a nightly SHA/MD5 Has on all bsp files, and then create file, with mapnames/sha/md5, and put them in a private website on the map server. Then my DL Server will go out, grab the list file, decompress, and recheck the sha/md5, if it failes it will auto pull down from the game server the correct map. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HoundDawg Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just ..bsp If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)? You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
Well if the crc fails like a bad download it will do the same thing. Also Valve needs to fix the damn download bar in source so it's not half a bar download half a bar extract/load. I want it like 1.6. On 5/28/09, William Stillwell ki4swy.va...@kotbh.net wrote: Ahh.. I just assumed they were the same client.. Maybe user has something block requests for .bz2 files? Or running some kind of client hack? Hmm.. weird William Stillwell -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sumichrast Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:36 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just ..bsp William, did you note the different IP addresses for the GETs? The bz2 was from one address, the bsp was from another. Unlikely that this was a hashing issue... It really seems like the client's initial request never got to the server. In that case, not much can be done about this. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, William Stillwell ki4swy.va...@kotbh.net wrote: It downloaded the BZ2, decompressed it, and its hashed failed on the client, and therefore is now looking for the other file. I had this problem before. Do a SHA1 and MD5 Hash on the bsp file on your game server. Then do an SHA1 and MD5 has on the uncompressed map on your map server. This is what I do: My local game server, does a nightly SHA/MD5 Has on all bsp files, and then create file, with mapnames/sha/md5, and put them in a private website on the map server. Then my DL Server will go out, grab the list file, decompress, and recheck the sha/md5, if it failes it will auto pull down from the game server the correct map. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HoundDawg Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just ..bsp If other clients are having no issues, then his server is configured correctly. Like someone mentioned, it's most likely the fault of the client, for whatever reason. You may also want to lock down your web directory from potential leeches: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com/Fast_Map_Downloads -- HoundDawg UnitedAdmins.com Forums: http://forums.unitedadmins.com Steam: http://steam.unitedadmins.com Wiki: http://wiki.unitedadmins.com MjrNuT wrote: Is the client actually looking for the BSP not knowing only the BZ2 is there (i.e., they typed manually in the browser for the file)? You allow d/ls publically or is this locked down? [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Client Map Downloads sometime search for just .bsp
I'd like a verbose option that makes TF2 show much more information. When loading from local files, if possible, individual filenames with GCF pathing and read times. When downloading from a server: the server's domain name/IP, the transfer/extraction rate, error codes, the hashes, the dependencies, and the queue. It'd help track down all kinds of custom map related issues. It'll never happen, but it would be nice. On a more realistic note, it would be nice if Valve started IDing maps by name AND hash instead of just name. That'd fix those map differs from server errors, and would allow for more advanced server management options later on. One practical example being establishing a background transfer system for custom L4D campaigns that allows players who are playing one map in a campaign to download the rest from participating servers with the requisite files, thus limiting the time spent downloading maps in favor of playing them. Well if the crc fails like a bad download it will do the same thing. Also Valve needs to fix the damn download bar in source so it's not half a bar download half a bar extract/load. I want it like 1.6. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
