Re: [hlds] hitboxes
meh, you just have to build communities like UA. Sadly UA have organisation issues themselves, for example I've been waiting to join the hlstats team for about 6 months now, but because they are a registered US charity this causes various liability issues with certain other investments. There is no ideal, but the kids will often get to the proper places in the end; one can only hope that the mature nature of the proper places will come through and provide solutions. Alas however, it is often the case that they simply lower themselves. On 10/10/05, Mahmoud Foda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think some are using as an alternative for the steampowered forum. GOD i hope they dont shut it down and force us to use the steampowered fourm with all the 9 year olds. On 10/10/05, James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this: make a lan server, run revert all on the server, run revert all on every client, test the hitboxes. The result should provide sufficient evidence of correct hitbox alignment that you should now be satisfied that your issues are that of configuration rather than programming/box design. On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
try this: make a lan server, run revert all on the server, run revert all on every client, test the hitboxes. The result should provide sufficient evidence of correct hitbox alignment that you should now be satisfied that your issues are that of configuration rather than programming/box design. On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think some are using as an alternative for the steampowered forum. GOD i hope they dont shut it down and force us to use the steampowered fourm with all the 9 year olds. On 10/10/05, James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this: make a lan server, run revert all on the server, run revert all on every client, test the hitboxes. The result should provide sufficient evidence of correct hitbox alignment that you should now be satisfied that your issues are that of configuration rather than programming/box design. On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Meh. Just filter messages from people who flame in your email client. On 07/10/05, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long till Valve gives up on this list and closes it down? Seems like people arn't really using it for information anymore. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: emtpy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why be mad at us? We just cracked your computer, installed an email server on it and now you host this lovely list. And we thank you for it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes I don't understand your meaning. Can you explain in detail? FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ray from the cheap server company? if so, fuck you and go die in a hole. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] hitboxes
Heh. Have you paid any attention to this list lately? Seems some people think all hope is gone when we get some mails off topic. Lots of useful information has been posted here the last week. I'm getting more tired of your asses... ;) ray from the cheap server company? if so, fuck you and go die in a hole. Lol :P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James McKenna Sent: 7. oktober 2005 20:37 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes How long till Valve gives up on this list and closes it down? Seems like people arn't really using it for information anymore. -- Sincerely, James McKenna ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't their already a thread demonstrating the hitboxes where fine on CS:S. I think they're fine. On 07/10/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] so, why dont u just play on a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its not a hit box issue Its a shot registration issue and the lower the tickrate the more likely the issue raises its head. Its next to impossible to reproduce, other than knowing that you are standing still and the other player is standing still and you burst, not spam and hit bugger all, or maybe 1 shot in 10 hits even though you are aiming at the torso. I know for a fact that if a player is alt-tabbed or lagging out, they seem to take twice as many bullets to kill as a person who is not. On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] the position of the hitboxes isn't... it's off quite a bit. VALVe improved them significantly, but they are still off. On 10/7/05, Dan Stevens (IAmAI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't their already a thread demonstrating the hitboxes where fine on CS:S. I think they're fine. On 07/10/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] so, why dont u just play on a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its not a hit box issue Its a shot registration issue and the lower the tickrate the more likely the issue raises its head. Its next to impossible to reproduce, other than knowing that you are standing still and the other player is standing still and you burst, not spam and hit bugger all, or maybe 1 shot in 10 hits even though you are aiming at the torso. I know for a fact that if a player is alt-tabbed or lagging out, they seem to take twice as many bullets to kill as a person who is not. On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 100 tickrate is not the solution nor the cause for every problem tyler The hitboxes are fine for the most part except for the possible cl_interpolate 0 bug which enables people to shoot behind players and still score kills, which bad most of the time but is useful for making AWP shots like T spawn through Double Doors on Dust2 On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] the position of the hitboxes isn't... it's off quite a bit. VALVe improved them significantly, but they are still off. On 10/7/05, Dan Stevens (IAmAI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't their already a thread demonstrating the hitboxes where fine on CS:S. I think they're fine. On 07/10/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] so, why dont u just play on a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its not a hit box issue Its a shot registration issue and the lower the tickrate the more likely the issue raises its head. Its next to impossible to reproduce, other than knowing that you are standing still and the other player is standing still and you burst, not spam and hit bugger all, or maybe 1 shot in 10 hits even though you are aiming at the torso. I know for a fact that if a player is alt-tabbed or lagging out, they seem to take twice as many bullets to kill as a person who is not. On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
I don't understand your meaning. Can you explain in detail? FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] hitboxes
Why be mad at us? We just cracked your computer, installed an email server on it and now you host this lovely list. And we thank you for it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes I don't understand your meaning. Can you explain in detail? FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why be mad at us? We just cracked your computer, installed an email server on it and now you host this lovely list. And we thank you for it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes I don't understand your meaning. Can you explain in detail? FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ray from the cheap server company? if so, fuck you and go die in a hole. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
How long till Valve gives up on this list and closes it down? Seems like people arn't really using it for information anymore. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: emtpy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why be mad at us? We just cracked your computer, installed an email server on it and now you host this lovely list. And we thank you for it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hitboxes I don't understand your meaning. Can you explain in detail? FUCK YOU SPAMMER! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ray from the cheap server company? if so, fuck you and go die in a hole. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its not a hit box issue Its a shot registration issue and the lower the tickrate the more likely the issue raises its head. Its next to impossible to reproduce, other than knowing that you are standing still and the other player is standing still and you burst, not spam and hit bugger all, or maybe 1 shot in 10 hits even though you are aiming at the torso. I know for a fact that if a player is alt-tabbed or lagging out, they seem to take twice as many bullets to kill as a person who is not. On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hitboxes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] so, why dont u just play on a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its not a hit box issue Its a shot registration issue and the lower the tickrate the more likely the issue raises its head. Its next to impossible to reproduce, other than knowing that you are standing still and the other player is standing still and you burst, not spam and hit bugger all, or maybe 1 shot in 10 hits even though you are aiming at the torso. I know for a fact that if a player is alt-tabbed or lagging out, they seem to take twice as many bullets to kill as a person who is not. On 10/7/05, Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] maybe you should go onto a 100 tick server? On 10/6/05, sprout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the wrong feeling hitboxes are still way off still. Any idea when valve plans on fixing that? cause I get the feeling they are worse since last update cause I just played and sat there emptyed a clip right on a player with him sliding and got 2 hits for 20 damage. m4 should do more damage and should hit a bit more then that -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
