Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Still not working for me after restarting 3 servers, none of them have appeared, but will check again in morning. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port > > Problem ? > > > > > > Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem. > > > > - Alfred > > > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > >> One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We > >> have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source > >> of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list > >> problem. > >> > >> - Alfred > >> > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
FWIW I've localpref'd limelight off to another carrier that doesn't send it's transit to europe/back to the states, and it started working again. Pointy hat to Alfred for investigating this issue :) At 07:15 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote: Unknown at this time. The agility of Steam allows us just to move the services elsewhere and analyze it without effecting users. - Alfred Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > abnormally large incomming bw = ddos? > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port > Problem ? > > > Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem. > > - Alfred > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We >> have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source >> of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list >> problem. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Alfred Reynolds wrote: >>> That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall >>> drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries >>> with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more >>> ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. >>> >>> - alfred >>> >>> Ian mu wrote: >>>> -- >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>> Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really >>>> hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part >>>> varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net >>>> seems odd. >>>> >>>> IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>>> 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>>> (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X >>>> 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>>> 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>>> (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 >>>> gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 >>>> ms !X * 142.661 ms !X >>>> >>>> Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, >>>> also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to >>>> vary too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to >>>> a general area for any routing problems. >>>> >>>> I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with >>>> packetloss, route changes etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >>>>> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >>>>> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >>>>> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of >>>>> days to debug problems). >>>>> >>>>> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the >>>>> server currently running? >>>>> >>>>> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain >>>>> IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list >>>>> try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >>>>> particular hop is dropping your packets. >>>>> >>>>> - Alfred >>>>> >>>>> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>>>>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>>>>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>>>>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its >>>>>> something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>>>>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do >>>>>> show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the >>>>>> absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not >>>>>> help us/valve. >>>>>> >>>>
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
abnormally large incomming bw = ddos? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem. - Alfred Alfred Reynolds wrote: > One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We > have > taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the > packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem. > > - Alfred > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall >> drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries >> with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more >> ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. >> >> - alfred >> >> Ian mu wrote: >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really >>> hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part >>> varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net >>> seems odd. >>> >>> IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>> 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>> (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X >>> 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>> 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>> (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 >>> gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 ms >>> !X * 142.661 ms !X >>> >>> Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, >>> also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary >>> too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a >>> general area for any routing problems. >>> >>> I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with >>> packetloss, route changes etc. >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >>>> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >>>> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >>>> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >>>> to debug problems). >>>> >>>> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >>>> currently running? >>>> >>>> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain >>>> IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list >>>> try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >>>> particular hop is dropping your packets. >>>> >>>> - Alfred >>>> >>>> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>>>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>>>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>>>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its >>>>> something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>>>> >>>>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>>>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do >>>>> show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the >>>>> absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not >>>>> help us/valve. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port >>>>> too you never know: >>>>> >>>>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>>>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>>>> >>>>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: >>>>> >>>>> 69.28.151.162:27011 >>>>> 69.25.142.6:27010 >>>>> >>>>> I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not >>>>> showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of >>>>> ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking >>>>> for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq >>>>> here: >>
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Unknown at this time. The agility of Steam allows us just to move the services elsewhere and analyze it without effecting users. - Alfred Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > abnormally large incomming bw = ddos? > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port > Problem ? > > > Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem. > > - Alfred > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We >> have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source >> of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list >> problem. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Alfred Reynolds wrote: >>> That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall >>> drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries >>> with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more >>> ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. >>> >>> - alfred >>> >>> Ian mu wrote: >>>> -- >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>> Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really >>>> hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part >>>> varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net >>>> seems odd. >>>> >>>> IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>>> 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>>> (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X >>>> 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>>> 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>>> (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 >>>> gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 >>>> ms !X * 142.661 ms !X >>>> >>>> Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, >>>> also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to >>>> vary too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to >>>> a general area for any routing problems. >>>> >>>> I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with >>>> packetloss, route changes etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >>>>> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >>>>> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >>>>> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of >>>>> days to debug problems). >>>>> >>>>> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the >>>>> server currently running? >>>>> >>>>> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain >>>>> IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list >>>>> try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >>>>> particular hop is dropping your packets. >>>>> >>>>> - Alfred >>>>> >>>>> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>>>>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>>>>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>>>>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its >>>>>> something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>>>>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do >>>>>> show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the >>>>>> absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not >>>>>> help us/valve. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the >>>>>> port too you never know: >>>>>> >>>>>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>>>>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>>>>> >>>&g
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem. - Alfred Alfred Reynolds wrote: > One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We > have > taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the > packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem. > > - Alfred > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall >> drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries >> with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more >> ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. >> >> - alfred >> >> Ian mu wrote: >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really >>> hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part >>> varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net >>> seems odd. >>> >>> IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>> 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>> (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X >>> 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >>> 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >>> (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 >>> gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 ms >>> !X * 142.661 ms !X >>> >>> Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, >>> also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary >>> too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a >>> general area for any routing problems. >>> >>> I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with >>> packetloss, route changes etc. >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >>>> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >>>> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >>>> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >>>> to debug problems). >>>> >>>> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >>>> currently running? >>>> >>>> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain >>>> IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list >>>> try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >>>> particular hop is dropping your packets. >>>> >>>> - Alfred >>>> >>>> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>>>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>>>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>>>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its >>>>> something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>>>> >>>>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>>>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do >>>>> show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the >>>>> absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not >>>>> help us/valve. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port >>>>> too you never know: >>>>> >>>>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>>>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>>>> >>>>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: >>>>> >>>>> 69.28.151.162:27011 >>>>> 69.25.142.6:27010 >>>>> >>>>> I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not >>>>> showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of >>>>> ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking >>>>> for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq >>>>> here: >>>>> >>>> >> > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std >>>> _adp >>>>> >>>> >> > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN >>
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem. - Alfred Alfred Reynolds wrote: > That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall > drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries > with > the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP > packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. > > - alfred > > Ian mu wrote: >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really >> hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part >> varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net >> seems odd. >> >> IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >> 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >> (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X >> 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) >> 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net >> (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 >> gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 ms >> !X * 142.661 ms !X >> >> Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, >> also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary >> too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a >> general area for any routing problems. >> >> I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with >> packetloss, route changes etc. >> >> >> On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >>> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >>> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >>> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >>> to debug problems). >>> >>> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >>> currently running? >>> >>> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP >>> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try >>> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >>> particular hop is dropping your packets. >>> >>> - Alfred >>> >>> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something >>>> on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>>> >>>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show. >>>> Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of >>>> any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve. >>>> >>>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port >>>> too you never know: >>>> >>>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>>> >>>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: >>>> >>>> 69.28.151.162:27011 >>>> 69.25.142.6:27010 >>>> >>>> I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not >>>> showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of >>>> ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for >>>> are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here: >>>> >>> > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std >>> _adp >>>> >>> > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN >>> oPTE >>>> >>> > mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0 >>> wJnB >>>> >>> > fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 >>> zZWF >>>> yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 >>>> >>>> I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured >>>> correctly no filteres etc. >>>> >>>> >>>&
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Any thoughts on this one alfred? Here are 3 traces from the server the game in question is 205.234.209.26:27015 Seems the first one is reporting an issue with routing. Hope this helps. Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 207.173.177.11 Tracing route to hlmaster1.hlauth.net [207.173.177.11] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 205.234.209.1 2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73] 3<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82] 4<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms chicago-ibx.eli.net [206.223.119.46] 5<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms ge-4-1-0--0.cr01.chcg.eli.net [207.173.115.137] 6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-0-0-0--0.cr02.mpls.eli.net [207.173.115.234] 7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-3-0-0--0.cr01.mpls.eli.net [207.173.114.185] 859 ms59 ms58 ms so-0-0-0--0.cr02.tkwl.eli.net [207.173.115.165] 959 ms60 ms60 ms p5-0-0.gw02.bllv.eli.net [207.173.115.90] 1060 ms60 ms60 ms gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173. 69.238] 11 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173.69.238] reports: Destinati ** routing issue? on net unreachable. Trace complete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. - alfred Ian mu wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really > hard to > pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies > depending > where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd. > > IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net > (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X > 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > 314.546 ms !X * > 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.652 > ms !X * * > 20 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 > ms !X * 142.661 ms !X > > Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, > also > eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too > much to > have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for > any > routing problems. > > I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with > packetloss, > route changes etc. > > > On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >> to debug problems). >> >> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >> currently running? >> >> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP >> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try >> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >> particular hop is dropping your packets. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something >>> on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>> >>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show. >>> Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of >>> any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve. >>> >>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port >>> too you never know: >>> >>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>> >>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: >>> >>> 69.28.151.162:27011 >>> 69.25.142
Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hiya, thanks for clearing that one, makes my traces make a bit more sense. Some of the traces go through tiscali as well, so might be a common point ( 213.x.x.x network) looking at previous mails. On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall > drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with > the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP > packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. > > - alfred > > Ian mu wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really > > hard to > > pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies > > depending > > where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd. > > > > IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > > 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net > > (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X > > 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > > 314.546 ms !X * > > 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.652 > > ms !X * * > > 20 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 > > ms !X * 142.661 ms !X > > > > Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, > > also > > eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too > > much to > > have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for > > any > > routing problems. > > > > I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with > > packetloss, > > route changes etc. > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid > >> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and > >> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are > >> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days > >> to debug problems). > >> > >> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server > >> currently running? > >> > >> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP > >> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try > >> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a > >> particular hop is dropping your packets. > >> > >> - Alfred > >> > >> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > >>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with > >>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont > >>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something > >>> on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? > >>> > >>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the > >>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show. > >>> Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of > >>> any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve. > >>> > >>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port > >>> too you never know: > >>> > >>> 207.173.177.11:27011 > >>> 69.28.151.178:27011 > >>> > >>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: > >>> > >>> 69.28.151.162:27011 > >>> 69.25.142.6:27010 > >>> > >>> I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not > >>> showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of > >>> ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for > >>> are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here: > >>> > >> > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std > >> _adp > >>> > >> > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN > >> oPTE > >>> > >> > mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0 > >> wJnB > >>> > >> > fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 > >> zZWF > >>> yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&a
RE: [hlds_linux] RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
I adjusted my localpref to 110 to another carrier, and tiscali seems to filter traffic.. I'm going to see if I can have my upstream localpref AS22822 to somewhere else for the time being. As a work around, Alfred, what do you recommend? Could we manually override the master server? (i dont remember the command off the top of my head) At 04:14 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote: The 207.173.177.11 trace is good. The 69.28.151.178 is bad, you aren't even hitting the backbone of the provider for that machine (Limelight networks, llnw.net). I CANNOT trace to 213.200.80.17, my trace looks like: 7 tbr2-cl11.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.61) 69.287 ms 69.861 ms 69.333 ms 8 tbr1-cl22.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.9.133) 70.217 ms 244.659 ms 230.508 ms 9 tbr1-cl14.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.10.1) 169.846 ms 70.712 ms 73.075 ms 10 12.122.82.133 (12.122.82.133) 68.621 ms 69.195 ms 70.380 ms 11 ge-2-1-2.nyc33.ip.tiscali.net (12.118.94.46) 67.381 ms 66.700 ms 66.651 ms Looks like tiscali.net might have a routing problem? - Alfred Gary wrote: > I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but: > > To: 207.173.177.11 >9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS > 23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec > 10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS > 23352] !A !A !A > > 69.28.151.178 >5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108 > msec 104 msec 104 msec >6 * * * > > I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp > investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing. > Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'. > > /ges > > At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >> to debug problems). >> >> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >> currently running? >> >> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP >> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try >> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >> particular hop is dropping your packets. >> >> - Alfred > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point. - alfred Ian mu wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really > hard to > pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies > depending > where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd. > > IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net > (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X > 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) > 314.546 ms !X * > 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.652 > ms !X * * > 20 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 > ms !X * 142.661 ms !X > > Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, > also > eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too > much to > have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for > any > routing problems. > > I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with > packetloss, > route changes etc. > > > On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >> to debug problems). >> >> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >> currently running? >> >> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP >> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try >> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >> particular hop is dropping your packets. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Affordablegameservers.com wrote: >>> I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with >>> the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont >>> reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something >>> on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? >>> >>> Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the >>> nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show. >>> Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of >>> any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve. >>> >>> Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port >>> too you never know: >>> >>> 207.173.177.11:27011 >>> 69.28.151.178:27011 >>> >>> Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: >>> >>> 69.28.151.162:27011 >>> 69.25.142.6:27010 >>> >>> I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not >>> showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of >>> ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for >>> are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here: >>> >> http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std >> _adp >>> >> .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN >> oPTE >>> >> mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0 >> wJnB >>> >> fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 >> zZWF >>> yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 >>> >>> I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured >>> correctly no filteres etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu >>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port >>> Problem ? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and >>> traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this? >>> >>> >>>
RE: [hlds_linux] RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
The 207.173.177.11 trace is good. The 69.28.151.178 is bad, you aren't even hitting the backbone of the provider for that machine (Limelight networks, llnw.net). I CANNOT trace to 213.200.80.17, my trace looks like: 7 tbr2-cl11.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.61) 69.287 ms 69.861 ms 69.333 ms 8 tbr1-cl22.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.9.133) 70.217 ms 244.659 ms 230.508 ms 9 tbr1-cl14.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.10.1) 169.846 ms 70.712 ms 73.075 ms 10 12.122.82.133 (12.122.82.133) 68.621 ms 69.195 ms 70.380 ms 11 ge-2-1-2.nyc33.ip.tiscali.net (12.118.94.46) 67.381 ms 66.700 ms 66.651 ms Looks like tiscali.net might have a routing problem? - Alfred Gary wrote: > I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but: > > To: 207.173.177.11 >9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS > 23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec > 10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS > 23352] !A !A !A > > 69.28.151.178 >5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108 > msec 104 msec 104 msec >6 * * * > > I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp > investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing. > Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'. > > /ges > > At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid >> addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and >> 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are >> subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days >> to debug problems). >> >> Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server >> currently running? >> >> The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP >> blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try >> using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a >> particular hop is dropping your packets. >> >> - Alfred > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Here are 3 traces from the server the game in question is 205.234.209.26:27015 Seems the first one is reporting an issue with routing. Hope this helps. Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 207.173.177.11 Tracing route to hlmaster1.hlauth.net [207.173.177.11] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 205.234.209.1 2<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73] 3<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82] 4<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms chicago-ibx.eli.net [206.223.119.46] 5<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms ge-4-1-0--0.cr01.chcg.eli.net [207.173.115.137] 6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-0-0-0--0.cr02.mpls.eli.net [207.173.115.234] 7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-3-0-0--0.cr01.mpls.eli.net [207.173.114.185] 859 ms59 ms58 ms so-0-0-0--0.cr02.tkwl.eli.net [207.173.115.165] 959 ms60 ms60 ms p5-0-0.gw02.bllv.eli.net [207.173.115.90] 1060 ms60 ms60 ms gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173. 69.238] 11 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173.69.238] reports: Destinati ** routing issue? on net unreachable. Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 69.28.151.178 Tracing route to CS37_SJC1 [69.28.151.178] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 205.234.209.1 2<1 ms 1 ms<1 ms unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73] 3<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82] 425 ms25 ms25 ms 0.so-2-1-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.102 ] 522 ms21 ms21 ms ae0-14.was10.ip.tiscali.net [69.31.30.18] 6 105 ms 104 ms 105 ms pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.17] 7 103 ms 103 ms 102 ms llnw-gw-ams.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.75.50] 8 107 ms 107 ms 107 ms ag1-6-1.ar1.ams.llnw.net [68.142.88.218] 9 127 ms 123 ms 117 ms so1-5-1.ar1.lga.llnw.net [69.28.172.161] 10 108 ms 108 ms 108 ms so1-5-1.ar1.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.237] 11 167 ms 168 ms 167 ms so1-15-1.ar1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.172.233] 12 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms agg1-31.fr1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.148.217] 13 161 ms 162 ms 161 ms CS37_SJC1 [69.28.151.178] Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 69.28.151.162 Tracing route to VALVE-SVR-9 [69.28.151.162] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 205.234.209.1 254 ms<1 ms15 ms unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73] 3<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82] 425 ms25 ms25 ms 0.so-2-1-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.102 ] 522 ms21 ms21 ms ae0-14.was10.ip.tiscali.net [69.31.30.18] 6 105 ms 104 ms 104 ms pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.17] 7 103 ms 103 ms 102 ms llnw-gw-ams.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.75.50] 8 109 ms 107 ms 107 ms ag1-6-1.ar1.ams.llnw.net [68.142.88.218] 9 114 ms 113 ms 116 ms so1-5-1.ar1.lga.llnw.net [69.28.172.161] 10 109 ms 108 ms 108 ms so1-5-1.ar1.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.237] 11 170 ms 167 ms 169 ms so1-15-1.ar1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.172.233] 12 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms agg1-31.fr1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.148.217] 13 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms VALVE-SVR-9 [69.28.151.162] Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:56 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug problems). Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server currently running? The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a particular hop is dropping your packets. - Alfred Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the > dc and > they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any > blocking > on my or the
Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd. IP 16 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.571ms 17 * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.280 ms !X 18 * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 314.546 ms !X * 19 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.652 ms !X * * 20 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) 138.419 ms !X * 142.661 ms !X Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for any routing problems. I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with packetloss, route changes etc. On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid > addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and > 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject > to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug > problems). > > Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server > currently running? > > The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP > blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try > using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a > particular hop is dropping your packets. > > - Alfred > > Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > > I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the > > dc and > > they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any > > blocking > > on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we > > start > > pooling out knowledge? > > > > Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing > > servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps > > there is > > some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be > > discounted or included will not help us/valve. > > > > Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too > > you > > never know: > > > > 207.173.177.11:27011 > > 69.28.151.178:27011 > > > > Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: > > > > 69.28.151.162:27011 > > 69.25.142.6:27010 > > > > I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not > > showing up. > > Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from > > 209.xxx > > down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have > > deleted the > > files according to the faq here: > > > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std > _adp > > > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN > oPTE > > > mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0 > wJnB > > > fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 > zZWF > > yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 > > > > I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured > > correctly > > no filteres etc. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port > > Problem ? > > > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and > > traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this? > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Remember that they are Pacific time in the States. So it's not even > >> the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ... > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert > >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM > >> To: saturndeathbaboon > >> Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? > >> > >> Exactly the same problem here. > >
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I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but: To: 207.173.177.11 9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS 23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec 10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS 23352] !A !A !A 69.28.151.178 5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108 msec 104 msec 104 msec 6 * * * I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing. Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'. /ges At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote: 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug problems). Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server currently running? The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a particular hop is dropping your packets. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug problems). Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server currently running? The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a particular hop is dropping your packets. - Alfred Affordablegameservers.com wrote: > I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the > dc and > they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any > blocking > on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we > start > pooling out knowledge? > > Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing > servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps > there is > some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be > discounted or included will not help us/valve. > > Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too > you > never know: > > 207.173.177.11:27011 > 69.28.151.178:27011 > > Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: > > 69.28.151.162:27011 > 69.25.142.6:27010 > > I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not > showing up. > Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from > 209.xxx > down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have > deleted the > files according to the faq here: > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std _adp > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmN oPTE > mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0 wJnB > fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9 zZWF > yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 > > I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured > correctly > no filteres etc. > > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port > Problem ? > > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and > traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this? > > > On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Remember that they are Pacific time in the States. So it's not even >> the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM >> To: saturndeathbaboon >> Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? >> >> Exactly the same problem here. >> We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem >> is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam >> introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist. >> No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our >> servers. >> >> This Steam-error is starting to cost us money. >> What is happening Valve ? >> It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react >> gentlemen. >> >> Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland) >> >> s> I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December >> 1st, my s> DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I >> have no idea s> why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had >> the same problem on s> the same date. >> >> s> Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then? >> >> s> leo bounds wrote: >> >>>> Gary, >>>> >>>> Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or >>>> do you have an entire box that has none showing in >>>> steam ? >>>> >>>> I have another win server box in the same rack that >>>> shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows >>>> none. >>>> I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been >>>> running steam based servers for about 2 years and >>>> nev
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't even aware of the other master servers! (Although not paid much attention before). Ones I've looked at so far use 207.173.177.11:27011 69.28.151.178:27011 and have a problem. Servers are spread over 3 dual xeons running 2*win2k3 and linux so doesn't seem to be o.s related either. Have tried a few things like forcing the IP by downloading 2nd IP addresses on the box, but no difference. Servers say they are connected to master server fine and show sv_secure 1 as well if it helps (just to indicate connection looks fine, although not sure if it uses same ports). Also have region set, it does look like there are some "chunks" of IP ranges missing, but that could just be me not remembering correctly (no filters either). On 12/5/05, Affordablegameservers.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the dc > and > they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any blocking > on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we start > pooling out knowledge? > > Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing > servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps there is > some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be > discounted or included will not help us/valve. > > Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too you > never know: > > 207.173.177.11:27011 > 69.28.151.178:27011 > > Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: > > 69.28.151.162:27011 > 69.25.142.6:27010 > > I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not showing > up. > Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from > 209.xxx > down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have deleted > the > files according to the faq here: > > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp > > .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTE > > mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnB > > fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWF > yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 > > I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured > correctly > no filteres etc. > > > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge? Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve. Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too you never know: 207.173.177.11:27011 69.28.151.178:27011 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all: 69.28.151.162:27011 69.25.142.6:27010 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here: http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp .php?p_faqid=165&p_created=1093390525&p_sid=QpD2jjWh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTE mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnB fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWF yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**&p_li=&p_topview=1 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured correctly no filteres etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this? On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember that they are Pacific time in the States. So it's not even the > wee > hours of early Monday morning yet there ... > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM > To: saturndeathbaboon > Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? > > Exactly the same problem here. > We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem > is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam > introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist. > No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers. > > This Steam-error is starting to cost us money. > What is happening Valve ? > It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react > gentlemen. > > Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland) > > s> I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my > s> DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea > s> why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on > s> the same date. > > s> Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then? > > s> leo bounds wrote: > > >>Gary, > >> > >>Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or > >>do you have an entire box that has none showing in > >>steam ? > >> > >>I have another win server box in the same rack that > >>shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows > >>none. > >> I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been > >>running steam based servers for about 2 years and > >>never seen this one before. > >> > >>Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this > >>problem. > >>LB > >> > >>Message: 3 > >>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500 > >>To: > >>hlds@list.valvesoftware.com, > >>From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? > >>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> > >>Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists > >>since about 2 > >>days ago. At first I thought it was one of my > >>access-lists on my 4506 > >>(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only > >>like a few > >>scattered servers. > >> > >>/ges > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>__ > >>Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. > >>Just $16.99/mo. or less. > >>dsl.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >>___ > >>To u
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this? On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember that they are Pacific time in the States. So it's not even the > wee > hours of early Monday morning yet there ... > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM > To: saturndeathbaboon > Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? > > Exactly the same problem here. > We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem > is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam > introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist. > No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers. > > This Steam-error is starting to cost us money. > What is happening Valve ? > It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react > gentlemen. > > Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland) > > s> I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my > s> DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea > s> why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on > s> the same date. > > s> Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then? > > s> leo bounds wrote: > > >>Gary, > >> > >>Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or > >>do you have an entire box that has none showing in > >>steam ? > >> > >>I have another win server box in the same rack that > >>shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows > >>none. > >> I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been > >>running steam based servers for about 2 years and > >>never seen this one before. > >> > >>Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this > >>problem. > >>LB > >> > >>Message: 3 > >>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500 > >>To: > >>hlds@list.valvesoftware.com, > >>From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? > >>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> > >>Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists > >>since about 2 > >>days ago. At first I thought it was one of my > >>access-lists on my 4506 > >>(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only > >>like a few > >>scattered servers. > >> > >>/ges > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>__ > >>Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. > >>Just $16.99/mo. or less. > >>dsl.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >>___ > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > > s> ___ > s> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > s> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Remember that they are Pacific time in the States. So it's not even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM To: saturndeathbaboon Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? Exactly the same problem here. We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist. No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers. This Steam-error is starting to cost us money. What is happening Valve ? It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react gentlemen. Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland) s> I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my s> DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea s> why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on s> the same date. s> Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then? s> leo bounds wrote: >>Gary, >> >>Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or >>do you have an entire box that has none showing in >>steam ? >> >>I have another win server box in the same rack that >>shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows >>none. >> I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been >>running steam based servers for about 2 years and >>never seen this one before. >> >>Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this >>problem. >>LB >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500 >>To: >>hlds@list.valvesoftware.com, >>From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? >>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists >>since about 2 >>days ago. At first I thought it was one of my >>access-lists on my 4506 >>(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only >>like a few >>scattered servers. >> >>/ges >> >> >> >> >>__ >>Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. >>Just $16.99/mo. or less. >>dsl.yahoo.com >> >> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> s> ___ s> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: s> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Exactly the same problem here. We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist. No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers. This Steam-error is starting to cost us money. What is happening Valve ? It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react gentlemen. Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland) s> I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my s> DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea s> why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on s> the same date. s> Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then? s> leo bounds wrote: >>Gary, >> >>Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or >>do you have an entire box that has none showing in >>steam ? >> >>I have another win server box in the same rack that >>shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows >>none. >> I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been >>running steam based servers for about 2 years and >>never seen this one before. >> >>Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this >>problem. >>LB >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500 >>To: >>hlds@list.valvesoftware.com, >>From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ? >>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists >>since about 2 >>days ago. At first I thought it was one of my >>access-lists on my 4506 >>(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only >>like a few >>scattered servers. >> >>/ges >> >> >> >> >>__ >>Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. >>Just $16.99/mo. or less. >>dsl.yahoo.com >> >> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> s> ___ s> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: s> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
