Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 05:41 pm, Tyler \"Overkill\" Schwend wrote: > Haha, hell no it's not hosted on my box! Yikes. Like I could ever > play Half-Life that way. lol! I think it's more likely that because you're used to the way the Internet feels over 56K, you don't notice that forums tend to be quite slow compared to other sites. Those of us who are used to quick web sites get frustrated by the huge latency of browsing forums. And also, when browsing email, once it's downloaded, there is no latency... just click and read. It seems much faster - to me, anyway. But many prefer forums - I think it's just a style thing. I suggest you go play in the UA forums if you like that medium of communication... -Mad -- Madness is soil in which creativity grows - Chris Bielek ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Haha, hell no it's not hosted on my box! Yikes. Like I could ever play Half-Life that way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mad Scientist Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum > I'm on 56k-like DSL, and I don't have much trouble browsing > through forums... not mine anyway... Is it hosted on your box? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Oook. Guess it was a bad idea. No more from me. cl_lurkmode 1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jules (aka Buddha-Pest) Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum "Tyler "Overkill" Schwend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].. . | The Deacon seems to be the most frequent poster I think lol, but his signal-noise ratio is usually pretty bad :) | I haven't been here long, but I figure if he's convinced, more | follow. I certainly don't want half of the people to go "Yay | forums!" and the other half to go "Die forums!" and then split up | this colorful group of people... lets not have 10 different places for information. the UA forums already server the purposes you mention and the mailing list/newsgroup solution is fine and proven for most people's needs. in my opinion forums are great when you want to reach everyday, unsophisticated community users. us admins are l33t and don't need to deal with all the limitations of forums. yes, there is a news server that mirrors the mailing list. a joy to read these lists in this way. news://news.buddhapest.com ~j ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
Shareaza still is reverse compatible with the G1 networks, which means it's connected to Kazaa, Limewire, Bearshare, and a crapload of others. I have G1 turned off, just because I enjoy the way G2 works, taking up less bandwidth, returning hits faster, and the various verification features. But yeah, the user base is at least as large as that of Kazaa and others. ->-Original Message- probably not heh. but if i do see one, i would probably do it that way. I will check yours out though, looks good. but does it have a large userbase yet? ke ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
> I'm on 56k-like DSL, and I don't have much trouble browsing > through forums... not mine anyway... Is it hosted on your box? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
"Tyler "Overkill" Schwend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... | The Deacon seems to be the most frequent poster I think lol, but his signal-noise ratio is usually pretty bad :) | I haven't been here long, but I figure if he's convinced, more | follow. I certainly don't want half of the people to go "Yay | forums!" and the other half to go "Die forums!" and then split up | this colorful group of people... lets not have 10 different places for information. the UA forums already server the purposes you mention and the mailing list/newsgroup solution is fine and proven for most people's needs. in my opinion forums are great when you want to reach everyday, unsophisticated community users. us admins are l33t and don't need to deal with all the limitations of forums. yes, there is a news server that mirrors the mailing list. a joy to read these lists in this way. news://news.buddhapest.com ~j ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
> Or is there some advantage to a mailing list that I don't know > about? With forums, you have to go look at them. Mail lists are more passive - the messages come to you. Personally, I prefer mail lists. -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
why the Deacon??? he's just another admin, you know... "Tyler "Overkill" Schwend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... | Well I guess mostly this was directed at The Deacon. I think | MOST people prefer forums... But I'm waiting to hear from him I | guess... Why does valve have an official mailing list instead of | an official forum? | ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
.edu based forums have a half-life (no pun intended) of like 12 months in my experience... "Tyler "Overkill" Schwend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... | Would y'all use an HLDS_Linux forum if I set one up? I would | think that would eliminate a lot of the moanings and groanings we | have with post formats, mail client insertions, etc... | | Since Eric is God here, I'd give him MOD and control of the | usergroup | | Or is there some advantage to a mailing list that I don't know | about? | | http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=20 if | you want to give it a shot | ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tyler ->"Overkill" Schwend ->Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:59 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out ->But Kev... Do you plan on getting/sharing CS in this way? -> probably not heh. but if i do see one, i would probably do it that way. I will check yours out though, looks good. but does it have a large userbase yet? kev ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
Shareaza, NOT Kazaa. I hate Kazaa. And any file sharing program is potentially bad news if you're an idiot I guess. (No, that wasn't some sly reference that you're an idiot, just a warning to everyone to be careful). And when you get a Shareaza URL, it contains the bitprint (MD5 more or less) of the file, rather than just the name. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
Sounds very similar to Shareaza... Shareaza can have HTTP and FTP sources (In fact, there's apparently a download manager function that will allow you to use Shareaza like GetRight or FlashGet.) If downloading from another G2 client (Currently only Shareaza, pending the GDF's exceptance of the protocol) it verifies the file as you download it. And yes, it also shares what you have as you download it. No centralized server, but no Edonkey-esque host file to worry about. I love it love love it. But Kev... Do you plan on getting/sharing CS in this way? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
CS 1.6? And it's only 500k? It says it's real. Sweet. Kazaa is great for getting many incantations of nimda. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tyler ->"Overkill" Schwend ->Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:23 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out -> -> ->I typically don't have much trouble getting CS updates when they ->come out. My download software is particularly abusive, and ->manages to break through to one or two mirrors after not too long ->of a delay. However, I don't expect (Nor do I wish for) the ->people on my server to obtain obtates like that. It's not much of ->an orderly fashion. Once I get the beta client and server, I'll ->be sharing it on Shareaza (The best P2P program out there) and ->quickly FTPing it to 2 or 3 of the hihg-bandwidth members of my ->server so that they can do the same. I was curious if anyone has ->used P2P programs in the past to help ease the update process and ->get things out there faster. I'll have a Shareaza link posted on ->our files page and in our forums as soon as we have it up. This ->is also how we've started to distribute map packs, hacker demos, ->etc. I think everyone benfits when you download and share a file ->of this much popularity. one quazi-p2p system that I ran across recently (and really really like) is bit torrent. the reason I like it, is that once you have the bit torrent software installed, you can access files from webpages etc. what it does (more or less, quick version) is divides up a larger file into lots of smaller chunks, and md5's both original and chunks to ensure data integrity. its nice, because it helps keep people from leaching, as they cant download if they cant upload. and you start uploading the *chunks* you already have to others while still downloading the rest. it also tends to give you more downloads the more you upload, so you are rewarded for helping out others. It doesnt have the nice search features that other systems have though. you have to either get the .torrent file (around 7kb) from someone (irc, aim, etc) or get it from a link at a website. so it is limited in that fashion. It also tends to suck up my bandwidth completely (1.5/512) and then will continue maxing out your upload after you finish the download. but in reasonably closed/limited groups, it works like a charm. kev ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Natural Selection using lots of CPU
I've browsed the Natural Selection forums at http://www.natural-selection.com, and combed through the list archives. About the only thing I could find were some messages from November saying something to the effect of "Windows NS dedicated servers use 40% less CPU than Linux dedicated servers." I haven't seen much traffic regarding NS since. I know they're about to release 1.04 server-side... Is anyone else on this list happily running a Linux NS server? I can run multiple 16-player CS servers on a 2GHz P4 with 1GB, but running one single 16 NS server HURTS. CPU shoots up to over 80-90% and the latency for all players shoots up exponentially (100-300 up from 40-60). I am running the latest hlds_l (not the beta) and the only mod I have installed is AM/MM (2.50.50/1.13.2). I've tested this on a RH7.2 box and a Debian box with the same result. The RH7.2 box is a 2.4.9 smp kernel, and the Debian is 2.4.19. There are other things running on those boxen at the moment, but this problem seems confined to ns. ALSO, If any NS guys watch this list, could you tell me whether we can expect lower CPU usage with the 1.04 release? TIA, WarmFuzzy -- "I hate you, Genetically Modified Soy Beverage Distribution Man Dan." -- K-REN ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re[2]: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
ED> I agree. The only thing I would change about 1.3 would be to ED> revert the aiming system back to the non-random system we enjoyed ED> in previous betas, specifically b6 through b6.2. Yes, I forgot that. I fell in love with the AK recoil in beta 7.1 (and how controlled it was in my hands). :) I had quite a shock when I first saw this random spray and the inaccurate single shots introduced probably in 1.3 (not sure). :( -- Best regards, Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
> I hope the beta release is delayed a month or two and that the > beta testing takes about 6 months so that CPL summer event and > tournaments before that can be played with 1.5. It's getting > tiering learning new weapons, new bullet spread, new behaviour > in jumping/crouching/running and walking.. The game was nearly > perfected in 1.3, all it needed was an anticheat system like > VAC and some hitbox and bug fixes, not disabling the player > characters and making the guns be all random.. I agree. The only thing I would change about 1.3 would be to revert the aiming system back to the non-random system we enjoyed in previous betas, specifically b6 through b6.2. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [OT] Distributing CS 1.6, when it comes out
I typically don't have much trouble getting CS updates when they come out. My download software is particularly abusive, and manages to break through to one or two mirrors after not too long of a delay. However, I don't expect (Nor do I wish for) the people on my server to obtain obtates like that. It's not much of an orderly fashion. Once I get the beta client and server, I'll be sharing it on Shareaza (The best P2P program out there) and quickly FTPing it to 2 or 3 of the hihg-bandwidth members of my server so that they can do the same. I was curious if anyone has used P2P programs in the past to help ease the update process and get things out there faster. I'll have a Shareaza link posted on our files page and in our forums as soon as we have it up. This is also how we've started to distribute map packs, hacker demos, etc. I think everyone benfits when you download and share a file of this much popularity. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Is out tomorrow ?
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan ->Huszics ->Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:58 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Is out tomorrow ? -> -> ->Sebastian wrote: -> ->>just because it comes out on a ->>monday doesn't mean you HAVE you upgrade asap ->> -> ->You you do. Last time the wonservers stopped working for players trying ->to connect with non 1.5 cilents within a few days... -> ->-- ->/Stefan -> well yeah, he didnt say that your servers would be full... ; P ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Is out tomorrow ?
Sebastian wrote: just because it comes out on a monday doesn't mean you HAVE you upgrade asap You you do. Last time the wonservers stopped working for players trying to connect with non 1.5 cilents within a few days... -- /Stefan Software never has bugs. It just develops random features. =) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
The Deacon seems to be the most frequent poster I think I haven't been here long, but I figure if he's convinced, more follow. I certainly don't want half of the people to go "Yay forums!" and the other half to go "Die forums!" and then split up this colorful group of people... I'm on 56k-like DSL, and I don't have much trouble browsing through forums... not mine anyway... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:52:27PM -0500, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: > Well I guess mostly this was directed at The Deacon. I think > MOST people prefer forums... Thats because MOST people like waiting for webpages to load. Forums get very hard to keep up with, I find. Go away for a week and try to play catch-up, you'll be there for a few hours, instead of a few minutes. Why is everyone so obsessed with The Deacon's opinion... -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
Isn't anyone surprised by the title of the page? "Welcome to Adobe GoLive 5" >From http://cs-conditionzero.com/ : >Site currently being updated. Check back soon. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sobchak ->Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:23 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ? -> -> ->This is how Natural Selection is currently running. Clients all have ->version 1.0 while the servers have either 1.03 or 1.04 BETA. I ->don't think ->the clients have to download anything new, AFIAK. -> err. how many hlds beta releases has valve sent out? since last release? quite a few. and as to the ns, its probably just that most of the major fixes they needed to make were only server side, which controls most of what is going on w/ hl games. besides, like i said, this is why valve made steam, to allow them to easily send out wide spread updates. ->-Sobchak ->> I also think that it should be better to release the upgrades faster... ->> like sub versions in the game are automaticly applied to that version... ->> so a 1.5 server automaticly get updated to 1.5.1... and the clients that ->> connect to that server download the small patches... it could be changed ->> when a map changes or something... -> -> ->___ ->To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->archives, please visit: ->http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC Updates
As always, search the allmighty archive before posting here... /oscar matt gossage wrote: There are'nt any VAC updates Scheduled for tonighit are ther? And another question, Does anyone know the affect of running a HLDS_L server niced.? Does it cause Choke / Loss? Any ideas? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
This is how Natural Selection is currently running. Clients all have version 1.0 while the servers have either 1.03 or 1.04 BETA. I don't think the clients have to download anything new, AFIAK. -Sobchak > I also think that it should be better to release the upgrades faster... > like sub versions in the game are automaticly applied to that version... > so a 1.5 server automaticly get updated to 1.5.1... and the clients that > connect to that server download the small patches... it could be changed > when a map changes or something... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] VAC Updates
There are'nt any VAC updates Scheduled for tonighit are ther? And another question, Does anyone know the affect of running a HLDS_L server niced.? Does it cause Choke / Loss? Any ideas? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:52:27PM -0500, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: > Well I guess mostly this was directed at The Deacon. I think > MOST people prefer forums... Thats because MOST people like waiting for webpages to load. Forums get very hard to keep up with, I find. Go away for a week and try to play catch-up, you'll be there for a few hours, instead of a few minutes. Why is everyone so obsessed with The Deacon's opinion... -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Just for people's information, I did setup a hlds_linux list serve (and hlds one too) area on my forum a while ago. If anyone would like to know the url I'd only be too happy to pass it on. Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Lastshooter said: > Carefull here, he has most certainly been possessed by the evil one's power's. Sss! Be careful - just don't say his name 3 times whilst looking in the mirror - okay?! ;) Jay. p.s. HAPPY NEW YEAR ONE AND ALL! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:07:53PM -0500, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: > Would y'all use an HLDS_Linux forum if I set one up? I wouldn't. I don't think it is a bad idea, some people might like it. I like email. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
I sorta like Forums better than a mailing list. *MOST* of the time you get a good amount of signal. I don't know if Eric wants to moderate your forum and doesn't United Admins have forums? On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 14:07, Tyler "Overkill" Schwend wrote: > Would y'all use an HLDS_Linux forum if I set one up? I would > think that would eliminate a lot of the moanings and groanings we > have with post formats, mail client insertions, etc... > > Since Eric is God here, I'd give him MOD and control of the > usergroup > > Or is there some advantage to a mailing list that I don't know > about? > > http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=20 if > you want to give it a shot > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
> Since Eric is God here, I'd give him MOD and control of the > usergroup Carefull here, he has most certainly been possessed by the evil one's power's. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Alright, well, Eric, the forum's up... And I guess I'm waiting for your oppinion... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kama ->Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:42 AM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ? - -> ->Why cant they not just fix the bugs instead? Adding more feature is the ->last this game needs... there are still tons of bugs in the game.. -> ->I also think that it should be better to release the upgrades faster... ->like sub versions in the game are automaticly applied to that version... ->so a 1.5 server automaticly get updated to 1.5.1... and the clients that ->connect to that server download the small patches... it could be changed ->when a map changes or something... -> ->Doing these gigant leaps everytime is not what I wish for... Downloading a ->20-30MB update, when every mirror is full.. or whats happened last time. ->the mirrors had to remove the files so that the server did not get loaded ->or that the bandwidth used from an ISP is used up for one game update... -> ->One other thing is regarding if Valve should be doing their antcheat... I ->think that a 3rd party anticheat are more flexible and faster to respond ->to new cheats... There are annoying bugs in VAC, that causes me to ->shutdown it on my servers. Probably going over to HLG when the CD-HLG is ->operating.. But Im not all pleased of the anouncement that UA gave... It ->feels like punkbuster all over again... but thats another issue... -> ->/Bjorn -> ->...i did nothing, Michael, and it was everything i dreamed it could be! What do you think steam is for? it allows valve to do frequent, full scale rollouts of updates with relative ease.to completely change the "gameplay" they would only have to replace the dlls folder on servers and clients. kev ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Well I guess mostly this was directed at The Deacon. I think MOST people prefer forums... But I'm waiting to hear from him I guess... Why does valve have an official mailing list instead of an official forum? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
- Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum > I sorta like Forums better than a mailing list. *MOST* of the time you > get a good amount of signal. I don't know if Eric wants to moderate > your forum and doesn't United Admins have forums? > > > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 14:07, Tyler "Overkill" Schwend wrote: > > Would y'all use an HLDS_Linux forum if I set one up? I would > > think that would eliminate a lot of the moanings and groanings we > > have with post formats, mail client insertions, etc... > > > > Since Eric is God here, I'd give him MOD and control of the > > usergroup > > > > Or is there some advantage to a mailing list that I don't know > > about? > > Hi, head over to the forums @ server.counter-strike.net :) jwm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Well, don't try that just yet... Can I get some feedback in here? Is it worthwhile? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] HLDS Secure/Insecure : CPU ?
Hey all, I wonder what the influence on the CPU is when the CS-Server is running in insecure mode. We have rather a slow machine (P3 dual 1ghz, 2gb sdram), is there a way to get less cpu usage from each hlds process? Greets, Jan -- Smets Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] HLDS_Linux Forum
Would y'all use an HLDS_Linux forum if I set one up? I would think that would eliminate a lot of the moanings and groanings we have with post formats, mail client insertions, etc... Since Eric is God here, I'd give him MOD and control of the usergroup Or is there some advantage to a mailing list that I don't know about? http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=20 if you want to give it a shot ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
>From http://cs-conditionzero.com/ : Site currently being updated. Check back soon. Maybe... Em Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:01:27 -0800 "lastshooter" Escreveu: > heh, I have not watch this pot for eight months now : / > > > John Frings quoted: > > > > > They also sent out (or atleast people on this list announced) that it > was > > going to be pushed back to January. People really need to be patient > about > > this release...afterall, a watched pot never boils as the saying goes. > > > > Jay. -- Alexandre Hautequest Icon - Internet grátis, MP3, Vídeo, rádio, e-mail e informação. Reserve já o seu em http://www.ibest.com.br/icon/mbr1.html. É grátis!*. * Promoção de lançamento. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
heh, I have not watch this pot for eight months now : / > John Frings quoted: > > > They also sent out (or atleast people on this list announced) that it was > going to be pushed back to January. People really need to be patient about > this release...afterall, a watched pot never boils as the saying goes. > > Jay. > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] (no subject)
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can we expect SOME form of official statement or confirmation from Eric/Erik regarding the testing scheduled to begin today, or will it just be another "Mid-December" calamity and never be changed until the next rumour mill starts from a VALVe employee? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] How do I grep for a VAC ban?
-- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] grep secure: *.log ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7. janúar 2003 18:39:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] How do I grep for a VAC ban? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have a false positive, and I need to remove it. I have tried a few expressions but cant find the ban. Any input is appreciated. honda -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- [ Content of type image/gif deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 Today or not today ?
From: "Jay Anstiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > They also sent out (or atleast people on this list announced) that it was > going to be pushed back to January. People really need to be patient about > this release...afterall, a watched pot never boils as the saying goes. Yeah but I, like many others, does NOT look forward to 1.6. Most of us who focus on playing matches in tournaments and ladders liked CS better when it was semi-realistic. When you could jump and the hand guns wheren't so random. If people wanted more realism then how come CS is and certanly WAS bigger then DoD, Amercas army and whatever all those realistic games are called. OK, sure.. I guess the shield can be really funny on public servers but when playing match games I'm sure we'll see the shield about as much as you see the dual berettas. Some people say CS was at it's best somewhere around beta 7. I think it was good up to 1.1 or maybe even 1.3. The all of a sudden, someone decided CS had to be more realistic and the characters in the game got disabled. The USP suddenly just can't be accurate aswell as the desert eagle. Sure, its more realistic but I'm a competative type of player. I want to learn to control every useful gun of the game and master it. Suddenly, its all random. You can learn to how to use and compensate for the spread, but never to perfection like it was before. I hope the beta release is delayed a month or two and that the beta testing takes about 6 months so that CPL summer event and tournaments before that can be played with 1.5. It's getting tiering learning new weapons, new bullet spread, new behaviour in jumping/crouching/running and walking.. The game was nearly perfected in 1.3, all it needed was an anticheat system like VAC and some hitbox and bug fixes, not disabling the player characters and making the guns be all random.. /John :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux