Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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He's just pissed that the game got postponed :D

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 When you hear an American company
> refer to summer, it's silly to throw hemispheres and such into it.
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Re: [hlds_linux] server hardware

2006-11-11 Thread Radar DA-UK

I take delivery of a new Intel SR2500 twin 5150 2U server newx week for
DoD:S
what distro do you think I sould be putting on it ??

Any hints and tip would be great


- Original Message -
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hardware



so you would suggest this
View Pic

   * Intel Xeon 5130 Woodcrest 2.0GHz Socket 771 2U Passive Processor
is it worth doing a dual 2 core I would be better just getting as more
powerful ?

On 11/11/06, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 08:54 AM 11/11/2006, John wrote:
>I am thinking of buying a new server and I was wondering what would be
>the best hardware choice
>
>I would like at least 4 32 player dods servers  on on box lets assume
>bandwidth is no problem
>
>I was thinking of getting this (just based on price)so any suggestions
>are welcomed
>
>cpu 2x
>Intel Xeon EM64T 3.2 Irwindale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache Socket 604 2U
>Passive Processor
>
>MB
>Intel SE7520BD2SATAD2 Dual Socket 603/604 Intel E7520 SSI EEB 3.0
>Server Motherboard
>
>What do you think would be possible with this setup or could you
>recommend something better


You'd be much better off not buying any 7xxx series chipsets; if
you're going intel, pick up a woodcrest or get amd..

FWIW 7xxx chipsets have too many problems, and HT on those cpu's
causing issues (i think some chipset errata tries to make the HT route
IRQ's)

G. Stanley
Engineering (AS36352)
Velocity Servers, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary


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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

However, as I stated previously, this is only valid for the Northern
Hemisphere.


So?  Valve is in the northern hemisphere, as is all of the US, Canada,
Mexico, Europe, Russia, India, and almost all of Asia.  We go by the
northern hemisphere.  You're only south of it if you're in South
America, Australia, or South Africa.  When you hear an American company
refer to summer, it's silly to throw hemispheres and such into it.

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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

However, as I stated previously, this is only valid for the Northern
Hemisphere.

~~ Ondra

Eric (Deacon) wrote:

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.


It means summer of 2007.  Generally between, say, June and August.

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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.


It means summer of 2007.  Generally between, say, June and August.

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Re: [hlds_linux] server hardware

2006-11-11 Thread John

so you would suggest this
View Pic

   * Intel Xeon 5130 Woodcrest 2.0GHz Socket 771 2U Passive Processor
is it worth doing a dual 2 core I would be better just getting as more
powerful ?

On 11/11/06, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 08:54 AM 11/11/2006, John wrote:
>I am thinking of buying a new server and I was wondering what would be
>the best hardware choice
>
>I would like at least 4 32 player dods servers  on on box lets assume
>bandwidth is no problem
>
>I was thinking of getting this (just based on price)so any suggestions
>are welcomed
>
>cpu 2x
>Intel Xeon EM64T 3.2 Irwindale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache Socket 604 2U
>Passive Processor
>
>MB
>Intel SE7520BD2SATAD2 Dual Socket 603/604 Intel E7520 SSI EEB 3.0
>Server Motherboard
>
>What do you think would be possible with this setup or could you
>recommend something better


You'd be much better off not buying any 7xxx series chipsets; if
you're going intel, pick up a woodcrest or get amd..

FWIW 7xxx chipsets have too many problems, and HT on those cpu's
causing issues (i think some chipset errata tries to make the HT route IRQ's)

G. Stanley
Engineering (AS36352)
Velocity Servers, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary


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Re: [hlds_linux] server hardware

2006-11-11 Thread Gary

At 08:54 AM 11/11/2006, John wrote:

I am thinking of buying a new server and I was wondering what would be
the best hardware choice

I would like at least 4 32 player dods servers  on on box lets assume
bandwidth is no problem

I was thinking of getting this (just based on price)so any suggestions
are welcomed

cpu 2x
Intel Xeon EM64T 3.2 Irwindale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache Socket 604 2U
Passive Processor

MB
Intel SE7520BD2SATAD2 Dual Socket 603/604 Intel E7520 SSI EEB 3.0
Server Motherboard

What do you think would be possible with this setup or could you
recommend something better



You'd be much better off not buying any 7xxx series chipsets; if
you're going intel, pick up a woodcrest or get amd..

FWIW 7xxx chipsets have too many problems, and HT on those cpu's
causing issues (i think some chipset errata tries to make the HT route IRQ's)

G. Stanley
Engineering (AS36352)
Velocity Servers, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary


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[hlds_linux] server hardware

2006-11-11 Thread John

I am thinking of buying a new server and I was wondering what would be
the best hardware choice

I would like at least 4 32 player dods servers  on on box lets assume
bandwidth is no problem

I was thinking of getting this (just based on price)so any suggestions
are welcomed

cpu 2x
Intel Xeon EM64T 3.2 Irwindale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache Socket 604 2U
Passive Processor

MB
Intel SE7520BD2SATAD2 Dual Socket 603/604 Intel E7520 SSI EEB 3.0
Server Motherboard

What do you think would be possible with this setup or could you
recommend something better

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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: Hlds doesn t work with K6 Cpus! / Error!

2006-11-11 Thread William Warren

a k6 is actually "p-1" technology.  Valve requires i686 which is
p-3(athlon) or higher IIRC.

Steve! wrote:

I no longer have an equivelent CPU to try here, but can confirm that it
runs
on a pIII which is a similar chip performancewise imo.

Perhaps something else, i.e memory or drive errors?

Have you tried redownloading the files? Maybe you can try this while
waiting
for someone to confirm if it's a change in the binary.

Steve!
www.timerider.co.uk
- Original Message -
From: "Nico Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: Hlds doesn t work with K6 Cpus! / Error!



Yes, I'm only trying to run cstrike 1.6 and other halflife 1 mods -
nothing
source-like or source invovled. and hope to get an bugfix for that too...
I'm trying to get that thing running since last winter...

greetings
nico


That would make sense if it was a source game he was trying to get
going,
but he's not...

It's cstrike according to his message: I'm 99% sure that Steam and HLDS
was
fine at the beginning of Steam, so

Would be good if this could be fixed.. Incidentally, I had similar issue
other week with an old VIA CPU.

Hopefully Alfred or someone will comment on this, and hopefully they'll
not
just say: 'We changed it, you now need 'x' CPU/features'.

Steve!
www.timerider.co.uk

- Original Message -



Valves source engine these days require sse2 which these older cpu's do
not support and that support aint coming back

-ics


Nico Maas kirjoitti:

Hi there, I got an problem:

"eis2 #  ./hlds_run -game cstrike +maxplayers 12 +map de_dust
Auto detecting CPU
Using default binary.
Auto-restarting the server on crash

Console initialized.
scandir failed:/steam/cstrike/./platform/SAVE
Protocol version 47
Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike)
Exe build: 16:14:38 Oct 24 2006 (3651)
STEAM Auth Server
couldn't exec language.cfg
Server IP address 192.168.2.17:27015
scandir failed:/steam/cstrike/./platform/SAVE
./hlds_run: line 424:  1475 Illegal instruction $HL_CMD
Add "-debug" to the ./hlds_run command line to generate a debug.log to
help with solving this problem
Thu Nov  9 23:59:14 UTC 2006: Server restart in 10 seconds"

I got serval pcs I wanted to use as server - but none of them can use
hlds.
It seems to be the problem, that hlds is lacking support for amd k6
cpus.
With Amd K7 and newer - it looks like it works.
But with Amd K6, for example the 400 Mhz - this error occurs - on
serval
systems.
(for example with kernel 2.4 on one, and with kernel 2.6 etc.)

So it looks like there is a problem with the cpu support.

Could anyone fix that problem?

Thanks
Nico





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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.

~~ Ondra

Jani Tiira wrote:

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Where did you get this information?

On 11/11/06, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:

* 31st August 2007
* 29th February 2008

Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.

There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
began in 2007 down under".

Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.

~~ Ondra

P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
"assert()" for this, though.



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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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Where did you get this information?

On 11/11/06, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
> shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
> dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:
>
> * 31st August 2007
> * 29th February 2008
>
> Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
> the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
> is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.
>
> There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
> implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
> talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
> enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
> began in 2007 down under".
>
> Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.
>
> ~~ Ondra
>
> P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
> Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
> with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
> "assert()" for this, though.
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:

* 31st August 2007
* 29th February 2008

Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.

There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
began in 2007 down under".

Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.

~~ Ondra

P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
"assert()" for this, though.

Jani Tiira wrote:

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So actually according to the arstechnica article this is not coming to Ep 2
and so it's not coming to Source engine universally like for eg. CS:S, DOD:S
etc.?
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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So actually according to the arstechnica article this is not coming to Ep 2
and so it's not coming to Source engine universally like for eg. CS:S, DOD:S
etc.?
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