Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-09 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote:

I have just moved away from evolution to Thunderbird. Evolution started
developing problems when my maildir hit about 250,000 emails.
Thunderbird seems to handle imap better, as well as large maildirs.
Evolution is great and my prefered mail client, dont get me wrong, but I
feel theres still dev work that needs to be done on it.
Yeah, I've started to use Thunderbird, too, on my Win32 workstation, but
there's definitely work that still needs to be done there, too :\
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-09 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Nicholas Hockey wrote:

workstation: FreeBSD/solaris/gentoo
playmachine: Windows2k3/WindowsXP
in my experience the only thing that worked allot better in windows was
games, i'm allot more productive in a nix environment, but i have also
been using unix's since before (DigitalUIX on a machine at my old isp,
logged in from a p90 with no HD running the 1.44 floppy release of QNX i
was way to cheap to invest in new hardware when my isp had all this
shiny new equipment :) ) windows was released.i have had this debate
before tho, it really boils down to what you are most comfortable in.
BUT
i do feel that evolution is alot more complete/usable than outlook will
ever be, it even spawns a back ground process to alert you when things
are coming up on your calendar, i'll throw up a screenshot on one of my
machines.
http://www.bitchx.org/~tilt has the screenshot of evolution



I have just moved away from evolution to Thunderbird. Evolution started
developing problems when my maildir hit about 250,000 emails.
Thunderbird seems to handle imap better, as well as large maildirs.
Evolution is great and my prefered mail client, dont get me wrong, but I
feel theres still dev work that needs to be done on it.
Just something to consider.

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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-09 Thread James Clark

use mutt =)

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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-09 Thread Nicholas Hockey
workstation: FreeBSD/solaris/gentoo
playmachine: Windows2k3/WindowsXP

in my experience the only thing that worked allot better in windows was
games, i'm allot more productive in a nix environment, but i have also
been using unix's since before (DigitalUIX on a machine at my old isp,
logged in from a p90 with no HD running the 1.44 floppy release of QNX i
was way to cheap to invest in new hardware when my isp had all this
shiny new equipment :) ) windows was released.i have had this debate
before tho, it really boils down to what you are most comfortable in.
BUT
i do feel that evolution is alot more complete/usable than outlook will
ever be, it even spawns a back ground process to alert you when things
are coming up on your calendar, i'll throw up a screenshot on one of my
machines.

http://www.bitchx.org/~tilt has the screenshot of evolution

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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Russell
lol, christ.
> > Yah and my 486 still makes a great paper weight to, get with the times,
> > not using a mouse doesn't make you cool anymore, just unproductive,
Anyone else care to pull this statement apart?
A 486 or a p75 is a great asset depending on what you want to do with it. If
you just want to host a personal web page, or run an irc bouncer, or use it
as a second screen to view IRC over (IRSSI > BitchX, by the way..) they are
COST EFFECTIVE solutions. Why bother paying £700 ish for a new computer with
all the bells and whistles when a 486 will do just as well?
Oh, and just TRY running x-windows on a p75 or 486, i dare ya.

- Original Message -
From: "Udo Held" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client


> Hi!
>
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 01:00:49AM -0400, Nicholas Hockey wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 23:53, Udo Held wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:59:06PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend
wrote:
> > > > > www.mutt.org
> > > > >
> > > > > A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console
> > > > > ans supports
> > > > > threads.
> > > >
> > > > It seems people respond with answers like that just to show how
> > > > l337 they are. :-)
> > >
> > > Nope. I have no X running on my linux box. And I prefer secure and
> > > threaded emailing. Both things MS Outlook doesn't offer. And acutally
I
> > > don't need a mouse for doing my e-mail stuff. It's always nice when I
> > > can laugh about the e-mails containing viruses in my mailbox which
> > > happens pretty frequently though. :(
> > >
> > > Outlook therefor offers nice e-mail folders and filters...
> > >
> > > If he wants to have threading and a secure linux mail client he should
> > > try mutt. If he doesn't like it he can switch it anyways
> > >
> >
> > Yah and my 486 still makes a great paper weight to, get with the times,
> > not using a mouse doesn't make you cool anymore, just unproductive,
>
> Not for reading e-mails. One knows the hotkeys one needs so it's not a
> hassle
>
> > [...sorry about flaming but i'm sick of ppl who think that not using X
> > and are terrified of a mouse are cool, i see them all the time as i am a
> > bitchx developer, and they always try and come in and impress us with
> > there l33tness]
>
> Well bitchx sucks(my personal opinion). It has to much automatisisms one
> has to deactivate before on can use it(at least it was 2 years ago). I
> will stick to my graphical Windows IRC client
>
> The rest of my apps run under windows. Reading e-mails through a ssh
> session on my linux box which has no monitor is no problem. For
> cut&paste I'm using the mouse on my Windows box within the ssh session
> as well.
>
> But it's strange. You are flameing me instead of giving the initiator an
> answer. The initiator asked for a e-mail-client that supports threading.
> mutt supports threading and that was the thing the initiator asked for.
> Remember?
>
> Regards
> Udo
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-08 Thread Udo Held
Hi!

On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 01:00:49AM -0400, Nicholas Hockey wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 23:53, Udo Held wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:59:06PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote:
> > > > www.mutt.org
> > > >
> > > > A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console
> > > > ans supports
> > > > threads.
> > >
> > > It seems people respond with answers like that just to show how
> > > l337 they are. :-)
> >
> > Nope. I have no X running on my linux box. And I prefer secure and
> > threaded emailing. Both things MS Outlook doesn't offer. And acutally I
> > don't need a mouse for doing my e-mail stuff. It's always nice when I
> > can laugh about the e-mails containing viruses in my mailbox which
> > happens pretty frequently though. :(
> >
> > Outlook therefor offers nice e-mail folders and filters...
> >
> > If he wants to have threading and a secure linux mail client he should
> > try mutt. If he doesn't like it he can switch it anyways
> >
>
> Yah and my 486 still makes a great paper weight to, get with the times,
> not using a mouse doesn't make you cool anymore, just unproductive,

Not for reading e-mails. One knows the hotkeys one needs so it's not a
hassle

> [...sorry about flaming but i'm sick of ppl who think that not using X
> and are terrified of a mouse are cool, i see them all the time as i am a
> bitchx developer, and they always try and come in and impress us with
> there l33tness]

Well bitchx sucks(my personal opinion). It has to much automatisisms one
has to deactivate before on can use it(at least it was 2 years ago). I
will stick to my graphical Windows IRC client

The rest of my apps run under windows. Reading e-mails through a ssh
session on my linux box which has no monitor is no problem. For
cut&paste I'm using the mouse on my Windows box within the ssh session
as well.

But it's strange. You are flameing me instead of giving the initiator an
answer. The initiator asked for a e-mail-client that supports threading.
mutt supports threading and that was the thing the initiator asked for.
Remember?

Regards
Udo
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-07 Thread Nicholas Hockey
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 23:53, Udo Held wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:59:06PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote:
> > > www.mutt.org
> > >
> > > A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console
> > > ans supports
> > > threads.
> >
> > It seems people respond with answers like that just to show how
> > l337 they are. :-)
>
> Nope. I have no X running on my linux box. And I prefer secure and
> threaded emailing. Both things MS Outlook doesn't offer. And acutally I
> don't need a mouse for doing my e-mail stuff. It's always nice when I
> can laugh about the e-mails containing viruses in my mailbox which
> happens pretty frequently though. :(
>
> Outlook therefor offers nice e-mail folders and filters...
>
> If he wants to have threading and a secure linux mail client he should
> try mutt. If he doesn't like it he can switch it anyways
>
> Regards
> Udo
>
> > -
> > Tyler "[TASF]Overkill" Schwend
> > "Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors."
> > ---
> > Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged:
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> > http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu
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Yah and my 486 still makes a great paper weight to, get with the times,
not using a mouse doesn't make you cool anymore, just unproductive,

[...sorry about flaming but i'm sick of ppl who think that not using X
and are terrified of a mouse are cool, i see them all the time as i am a
bitchx developer, and they always try and come in and impress us with
there l33tness]
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-07 Thread Udo Held
Hi!

On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:59:06PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote:
> > www.mutt.org
> >
> > A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console
> > ans supports
> > threads.
>
> It seems people respond with answers like that just to show how
> l337 they are. :-)

Nope. I have no X running on my linux box. And I prefer secure and
threaded emailing. Both things MS Outlook doesn't offer. And acutally I
don't need a mouse for doing my e-mail stuff. It's always nice when I
can laugh about the e-mails containing viruses in my mailbox which
happens pretty frequently though. :(

Outlook therefor offers nice e-mail folders and filters...

If he wants to have threading and a secure linux mail client he should
try mutt. If he doesn't like it he can switch it anyways

Regards
Udo

> -
> Tyler "[TASF]Overkill" Schwend
> "Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors."
> ---
> Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged:
> Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015
> http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu
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RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-07 Thread Tyler \"Overkill\" Schwend
> www.mutt.org
>
> A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console
> ans supports
> threads.

It seems people respond with answers like that just to show how
l337 they are. :-)

-
Tyler "[TASF]Overkill" Schwend
"Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors."
---
Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged:
Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015
http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu

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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-07 Thread Udo Held
www.mutt.org

A text emailclient. It's working fine in my console ans supports
threads.

Regards
Udo

On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 05:57:08PM -0400, David Fencik wrote:
> Outlook does a crappy job with threaded emails.  Just wondering if
> anyone could recommend a good free email client for linux or windoze.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Multi-threaded email client

2003-06-07 Thread Nicholas Hockey
ximians evolution, i love it and it does a great jopb with threads.
the only downside is it's heavy dependency on gnome lib's and tools,
slyphed does a good job also, and is alot lighter weight, but if yer
more used to outlook i would feel more comfortable ( and it has awsome
imap support and gnupg which i use quite often)


On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 17:57, David Fencik wrote:
> Outlook does a crappy job with threaded emails.  Just wondering if
> anyone could recommend a good free email client for linux or windoze.
>
> Dave
>
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