RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously.... virus warning not me, as usual
its not me this is a typical forged sender email from every recent virus. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] not michiganburbs or what ever it says secondly, I use norton corporate antivirus, and also my email is set to auto delete pretty much every attachment type except zip and rar... Every time a new virus comes out, my email is swamped because its been out on the net, and an buttload of people in the cs community have it in their addressbooks... ( i run http://countermap.counter-strike.net ) so I am guaranteed to be in some noobs addressbook who likes to click on attachments I've even run the bugbear removal tool from symantec. clean. sorry guys, but as most have already figured out, most modern viruses randomly forge the sender headers from the infected computers addressbook and other places it can glean valid emails... kev ->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [TD]MoD ->Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 7:36 AM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kevin J. Anderson ->Cc: hlds linux ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously -> -> ->Aye, got it as well. It didn't have a "To: " Header. -> ->-- -> ->MoD. -> ->- Original Message - ->From: "Tony Di Schino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ->To: "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ->Cc: "hlds linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ->Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:00 AM ->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously -> -> ->> Kevin, you have a virus... ->> ->> W32.Bugbear.B.Dam ->> ->> A file containing that virus was attached to a message (below) I just ->> received from you that didnt appear to be addressed to the list... ->> ->> just wanted to let everyone know to be careful ->> ->> T ->> ->> --- "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ->> > I'd have to agree. Checking $HOME is easiest, especially when we're ->> > working in a chroot environment. Thanks. ->> > ->> > -a ->> > ->> > At 02:38 AM 6/26/2003 +0200, you wrote: ->> > >Maybe using the HOME environment variable? :) ->> > >Voodooman ->> > > ->> > >- Original Message - ->> > > ->> > ->> ->> ->> ->> ___ ->> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, ->please visit: ->> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ->> -> ->___ ->To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->archives, please visit: ->http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Aye, got it as well. It didn't have a "To: " Header. -- MoD. - Original Message - From: "Tony Di Schino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "hlds linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > Kevin, you have a virus... > > W32.Bugbear.B.Dam > > A file containing that virus was attached to a message (below) I just > received from you that didnt appear to be addressed to the list... > > just wanted to let everyone know to be careful > > T > > --- "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd have to agree. Checking $HOME is easiest, especially when we're > > working in a chroot environment. Thanks. > > > > -a > > > > At 02:38 AM 6/26/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > >Maybe using the HOME environment variable? :) > > >Voodooman > > > > > >- Original Message - > > > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Roger that I got it too, probably the whole list did. Cheers, Scott Pettit [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Di Schino Sent: Friday, 4 July 2003 7:01 p.m. To: Kevin J. Anderson Cc: hlds linux Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Kevin, you have a virus... W32.Bugbear.B.Dam A file containing that virus was attached to a message (below) I just received from you that didnt appear to be addressed to the list... just wanted to let everyone know to be careful T --- "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd have to agree. Checking $HOME is easiest, especially when we're > working in a chroot environment. Thanks. > > -a > > At 02:38 AM 6/26/2003 +0200, you wrote: > >Maybe using the HOME environment variable? :) > >Voodooman > > > >- Original Message - > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Kevin, you have a virus... W32.Bugbear.B.Dam A file containing that virus was attached to a message (below) I just received from you that didnt appear to be addressed to the list... just wanted to let everyone know to be careful T --- "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd have to agree. Checking $HOME is easiest, especially when we're > working in a chroot environment. Thanks. > > -a > > At 02:38 AM 6/26/2003 +0200, you wrote: > >Maybe using the HOME environment variable? :) > >Voodooman > > > >- Original Message - > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Drew Broadley wrote: with CD, but there IS a supportforum where you can seek (and do get) help if you have problems. http://ban.cstrike.co.nz has worked very well :) (login: guest/guest) - Drew I was only refering to the exsistance of an official working place to turn to if you have problems with CD (both for admins as well as users), as opposed to with VAC (albeight the recent input by [EMAIL PROTECTED] does give some hope that Valve will fix this shortcomming in a not too distant future). -- /Stefan Software never has bugs. It just develops random features. =) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Pär Olsson wrote: Sorry to butt in here. Stefan, really, he has already explained that his café computers gets banned on *other* systems/servers. No local install of CD will ever fix that problem. Maybe you didn't read his email after all? ;-) Well I guess I have to welcome you to the peanut gallery of people only reading half a thread before replying. Remeber to check in with mr D to get info about dental plans and privileges ;-) Meanwhile I'll reapeat some important tidbits you obviously missed like * Drew is admining/responsible for the majority of servers in NZ (I assume that the mentioned 99% is a slight exageration, but still points at a good share of the servers). * International connection sux (giving high latency/ping as well as possibly freeze-lagg for people playing on foreign servers). * Drew is apparently an active anticheater in NZ gaming circles. These things put him in the very special position where he can in fact (if he chooses to) pretty much decide if the NZ players should use VAC/VSM, CD or neighter. In short, there won't be too many "other servers" with VAC running to worry about (that NZ players will realistically connect to due to latency and lagg) if he would choose to go down the CD route :) Also if the majority of servers in NZ should switch to CD, very likely many of the remaining ones would do too, if nothing else out of convenience for the players. So in this very special case a "local install of CD" as you call it would very likely solve the problem of his mashines getting banned even on other servers. -- /Stefan Software never has bugs. It just develops random features. =) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
No kidding. That's why he was saying disable it server side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared Eischen Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously VAC is server side, you can't turn off VAC on the client side and play on VAC enabled servers... - Original Message - From: "Britt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > exactly - if VAC is an issue for 'em - let 'em turn it off until the > problems are resolved - and enable some other type of anti-cheat > plugin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jared Eischen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:19 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > Well, that doesnt allow his clients from playing on outside Internet > > VAC enabled servers. Which I'm sure he is going to have to deal > > with when his > > clients come in and try and pub it up. > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Britt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > > > > no no - if you cant get around - just turn it off - period - thats what > > his > > > point was... pretty clear I thought. advantages and disadvantages both > > ways > > > though. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Jeremy Brooking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > > > > > > > Britt wrote: > > > > > > > > >Cant read in between the lines? lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yip > > > > > > > > > > > > And between the lines it says... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your post was pointless in fixing his issue regarding being > > > > falsely > > > banned. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 03:38, Jared Eischen wrote: > VAC is server side, you can't turn off VAC on the client side and play on > VAC enabled servers... But, however, if everyone stops using VAC and starts using Cheating Death, then non-cheaterse won't have a problem. This list is a good place to get the point across, isn't it? Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Britt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > exactly - if VAC is an issue for 'em - let 'em turn it off until the > > problems are resolved - and enable some other type of anti-cheat plugin. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jared Eischen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > > > > Well, that doesnt allow his clients from playing on outside Internet VAC > > > enabled servers. Which I'm sure he is going to have to deal with when > his > > > clients come in and try and pub it up. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Britt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > > > > > > > no no - if you cant get around - just turn it off - period - thats > what > > > his > > > > point was... pretty clear I thought. advantages and disadvantages > both > > > ways > > > > though. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Jeremy Brooking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:16 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously > > > > > > > > > > > > > Britt wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Cant read in between the lines? lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And between the lines it says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your post was pointless in fixing his issue regarding being falsely > > > > banned. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Stefan Huszics wrote: > Drew Broadley wrote: > > >>There is a good fix for that available that will fix all your > >>problems. secure "0" in liblist.gam and install Cheating-Death. > >> > >> > > > >All my servers are all "-insecure", and have been for some time. > >And it isnt all my problems if you read into my email :) > > > > > I happen to be one of the few people on this list that actually reads > the mails I reply to ;) > Yes, I'm aware that you had other problems/complaints, but all of them > are fixed by running with VAC off & CD as anticheat. Sorry to butt in here. Stefan, really, he has already explained that his café computers gets banned on *other* systems/servers. No local install of CD will ever fix that problem. Maybe you didn't read his email after all? ;-) /Nethog ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Serpent wrote: I'll stop responding to help messages as it seems there are a few children on here. Please don't. The fewer people posting sensible things in a polite manner, the more agressive/bad attitude posters we get. We need more friendly posters like you :) -- /Stefan Software never has bugs. It just develops random features. =) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Drew Broadley wrote: There is a good fix for that available that will fix all your problems. secure "0" in liblist.gam and install Cheating-Death. All my servers are all "-insecure", and have been for some time. And it isnt all my problems if you read into my email :) I happen to be one of the few people on this list that actually reads the mails I reply to ;) Yes, I'm aware that you had other problems/complaints, but all of them are fixed by running with VAC off & CD as anticheat. I just didn't think it was nessecary quote/mention each and every issue by it's own, but here it comes * banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory Cheating Death doesn't do any banning. If it prevents a mashine from being used, just replace the memodules and you can use it again. * Global banlist Since CD doesn't ban, there will be no global (or any other) banlist to worry about) * having to restart servers after a VAC update No VAC, no Restart & SM download * Increasing CPU, Descreased performance CD only use trivial CPU on the server. * Having a banlist that you cannot even contact a "selected" person Again, there is no banlist with CD, but there IS a supportforum where you can seek (and do get) help if you have problems. -- /Stefan Software never has bugs. It just develops random features. =) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
> There is a good fix for that available that will fix all your > problems. secure "0" in liblist.gam and install Cheating-Death. All my servers are all "-insecure", and have been for some time. And it isnt all my problems if you read into my email :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Drew Broadley wrote: Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statistics, support, suggestions etc ? - Drew I would like to see this also, and am willing to donate what spare time I have to this. Security through obscurity is a myth. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
We're considering some options... -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statistics, support, suggestions etc ? - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:40 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know if you don't hear something in the next couple days. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I tried this Eric, I still did not get a response. I will indeed be in touch again, thank you for the furthering support! :) - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:29 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
- Original Message - From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know if you don't hear something in the next couple days. -Eric Just like I said, the Drew's cafe problem team finally gets to work :P -- MoD. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
This e-mail is a digest. > Following the correct developers protocol, Beta = UNSTABLE, in > development, not ready for public use. > Some of us don't update to beta's and wait for the public release. > Such as 3.1.1.1.? "was just bringing this topic into the light again because I had obviously shown that I had taken major steps to contact Valve, only being short of ringing their office." I don't know the long distance rates in NZ, but you can ring up the offices... You can even call some of the employees at home and bug them, if you think you are being ignored. > It was a general summary, if you coudlnt tell from all the past issues, > it was to bring the topic into the spot light. > What topic? I still don't understand what a hitbox conspiracy is :\ > Hell, if you managed to read the whole thing, Im quite certain every > other person wont have a problem :) No need to insult my intelligence, you're the one being a donkey-hole here... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jeremy wrote: "Now I bet youd be the first one here crying if you got banned for something that wasnt your fault." I'd like to be the booky on that bet, would make lotsa money. I don't go crying, as you put it, in public lists about a problem I have. You didn't see me talking here when my viewdemo function dissapeared, when I couldn't run HLTV on my comp, when my half-life refused to work after installing a server patch over my client, etc. etc. all of those fixed btw, dont be afraid. "Point to note too, this isnt just drew saying "I personally cannot play CS for a week" this is his Job, his employer loosing money. They either have to go upgrade a perfectly good PC, or pay for new copies of CS. This is simply not acceptable." I wouldn't call a computer with corrupt memory chips a "prefectly good PC" -- MoD. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
> You forgot to open your rant tag. Thus, the entire rant went out as plain text. > > -Mad I swear I forgot to close of one of my rants a while back though ;) - Drew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statistics, support, suggestions etc ? - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:40 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know if you don't hear something in the next couple days. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I tried this Eric, I still did not get a response. I will indeed be in touch again, thank you for the furthering support! :) - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:29 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
According to the great words of Drew Broadley: > I don't want to sound critical but: [...] > You forgot to open your rant tag. Thus, the entire rant went out as plain text. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know if you don't hear something in the next couple days. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I tried this Eric, I still did not get a response. I will indeed be in touch again, thank you for the furthering support! :) - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:29 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I tried this Eric, I still did not get a response. I will indeed be in touch again, thank you for the furthering support! :) - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:29 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 10:18:28AM +1200, Jeremy Brooking wrote: > have processes running on the machine to monitor, Drew would be one of > the few people I wouldnt have any doubt in when he says "There have ever > been any cheats on these machines" I believe Drew as well. > though my opinion means nothing. Correct, sadly mine means nothing either. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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m0gely wrote: Drew Broadley wrote: the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, and a random choice of OGC I downloaded a while ago. This is for watching demo's of suspected wall hackers. I was amazed because the version of OGC I downloaded before that was like 6 or something when CSG was still around, and it basically had NO install. You just run the exe, setup a couple hot keys, minimize it then play CS. I can't imagine how you would "lock down" on the desktop against a hack like this. There was an exe, a dll and an ini file. Thats it. Because they monitor their systems. The company drew works for is not ya typical pay 2 bucks and use the machine to take over the world, net cafe. Drew is also an active member of the anticheat community in NZ. Whether he walks past the machines every 5mins to check, or whether they have processes running on the machine to monitor, Drew would be one of the few people I wouldnt have any doubt in when he says "There have ever been any cheats on these machines" though my opinion means nothing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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> A server restart should take about 1 min at most while the module downloads. I wish New Zealand had a good International pipe :/ They opened up a new one not too long ago, got flooded straight away by corporate companies that use NZ as a call centre and pretty much saw none of it go to the "little" guys. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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[TD]MoD wrote: [A bunch of crap] Now I bet youd be the first one here crying if you got banned for something that wasnt your fault. Point to note too, this isnt just drew saying "I personally cannot play CS for a week" this is his Job, his employer loosing money. They either have to go upgrade a perfectly good PC, or pay for new copies of CS. This is simply not acceptable. No one on this list seems to give a fuck... But they will all be the first ones to cry the day they get banned. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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> I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, > and a random choice of OGC I downloaded a while ago. > This is for watching demo's of suspected wall hackers. > I was amazed because the version of OGC I downloaded before > that was like 6 or something when CSG was still around, and it basically had NO install. > You just run the exe, setup a couple hot keys, minimize it then play CS. > > I can't imagine how you would "lock down" on the desktop against > a hack like this. There was an exe, a dll and an ini file. Thats it. The Cafemangement system polls the processlist every 15 seconds per machine, if there is anything new it alerts us straight away on the front counter which the machine status is too repolled every 15 seconds for all machines. It sees an unlisted process and reports back to us. - Drew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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James Clark wrote: - All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school to play cs now the servers arent even working) A server restart should take about 1 min at most while the module downloads. 'Should' ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....
Drew Broadley wrote: I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. Funny, I seem to remember mentioning this before, and I was told it wont be an issue. Right drew, go buy new PC's and new copies of HalfLife, so your bussiness can keep running, due to someone elses fuck up. - All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school to play cs now the servers arent even working) Using Pentium II Optimised binary. Auto-restarting the server on crash Console initialized. Protocol version 46 Exe version 3.1.1.1 Exe build: 16:50:03 May 30 2003 (2409) Timed Out. Does get really tedious after a while. As well as servers dropping out of secure mode, after an update (I presume that was the cause), and yes, I have the latest and greatest patches. - Increasing CPU, Descreased performance. Unfortunate, but its something im willing to deal with to make sure people with cheap memory get banned for using my servers. - Having a banlist that you cannot even contact a "selected" person regarding WONID's being on the list: * http://www.valvesoftware.com/people.htm -> No one * http://www.valvesoftware.com/contact.htm -> Not one response from emailing every single person on that page... & stuff emailing it to this list, you would just get ridiculed. Ive mentioned this before, and apparently no one gives a shit. Youre an evil cheater drew, VAC wouldnt lie, now go to heel and rott. - Hitbox conspiracies, and more ? VALVe killed Kennedy, not the CIA. Isn't it time to let a dying horse, die ? Or at least have some sort of VAC support/bugzilla page SOMEWHERE, ILL MAKE IT, DAMMIT ILL EVEN MAINTAIN IT.. ARGH THE INSANITY! *Breaths in.. Breaths out... Breathes in.* And I offer you my full support with this, Time, Hosting, Mail etc.. Disclaimer: I'm only referring to VAC, the HLDS support has been amazing. Good work Valve! Totally agree, the updates patches and code enhancements recently are very much appreciated. Love Drew. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Drew Broadley wrote: the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, and a random choice of OGC I downloaded a while ago. This is for watching demo's of suspected wall hackers. I was amazed because the version of OGC I downloaded before that was like 6 or something when CSG was still around, and it basically had NO install. You just run the exe, setup a couple hot keys, minimize it then play CS. I can't imagine how you would "lock down" on the desktop against a hack like this. There was an exe, a dll and an ini file. Thats it. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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> Try waiting for a week to pass, and fix your memory. Did that... Still has previous records of the WONID having "cheats" used. > It would notify you of a player inserting a floppy disk and copying ogc.exe? Interesting. Interesting, when they can't get access to their floppy disk, and if they manage to exploit windows when its locked down (in otherwords very easily) you could have read the next statement how the front desk is notified straight away with an alert. It's okay to skim my email, but don't miss out vital points. > Dont you get x.1.1.0 betas and x.1.1.1 hlds in new zealand? Damnit valve, that's down right racial! Following the correct developers protocol, Beta = UNSTABLE, in development, not ready for public use. Some of us don't update to beta's and wait for the public release. >Yeah, i'm sure you're the only one in the world with a VAC ban. In fact, there's a whole crew in valve named "Dre'w cafe and >VAC problems"! I was just bringing this topic into the light again because I had obviously shown that I had taken major steps to contact Valve, only being short of ringing their office. > You watched one too many episode of x-files... there was a bug, it was fixed. But I guess you didnt get the fix, with that > valve anti new zealand crusade and all. It was a general summary, if you coudlnt tell from all the past issues, it was to bring the topic into the spot light. > I doubt anyone from valve bothered to read that far into your e-mail... Hell, if you managed to read the whole thing, Im quite certain every other person wont have a problem :) > About time. Thank you for taking the time to read my email, this was better then a reply to a "Read-Receipt" - Drew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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> - All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. > (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming > Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school > to play cs now the servers arent even working) A server restart should take about 1 min at most while the module downloads. > Love Drew. lofl. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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"you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" - Try waiting for a week to pass, and fix your memory. "in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers." It would notify you of a player inserting a floppy disk and copying ogc.exe? Interesting. "- All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school to play cs now the servers arent even working)" Dont you get x.1.1.0 betas and x.1.1.1 hlds in new zealand? Damnit valve, that's down right racial! "- Having a banlist that you cannot even contact a "selected" person regarding WONID's being on the list: * http://www.valvesoftware.com/people.htm -> No one * http://www.valvesoftware.com/contact.htm -> Not one response from emailing every single person on that page..." Yeah, i'm sure you're the only one in the world with a VAC ban. In fact, there's a whole crew in valve named "Dre'w cafe and VAC problems"! "- Hitbox conspiracies, and more ?" You watched one too many episode of x-files... there was a bug, it was fixed. But I guess you didnt get the fix, with that valve anti new zealand crusade and all. "Disclaimer: I'm only referring to VAC, the HLDS support has been amazing. Good work Valve!" I doubt anyone from valve bothered to read that far into your e-mail... "" About time. -- MoD, Isn't the deacon suppose to do this? 5wks 3days 6hrs 34mins 37secs ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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>that was taken care of in one of the 1110x beta releases a LONG time ago. > >kev Im doing a general VAC summary... ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Drew ->Broadley ->Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:46 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously -> -> ->I don't want to sound critical but: -> ->- Incorrect cheat detection. ->(banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory ->module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily ->banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" ->over, and over with no response from VALVE about unbanning it, hey ->everyones a cheater especially when you get put on the GLOBAL banlist, ->guilty til never having the chance to prove your innocence ?), and FYI ->the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an ->additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats ->have never touched our internet café computers. -> but yes, I know 2 or 3 people that I lan w/ all the time, and know they dont cheat, have been banned due to their memory or something along those lines. seems to be a common issue. kev ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
