RE: [Hornlist] double concerto
Sorry, poor message. Rosetti = not Rossetti, and never Rosetti/Rossini. Even Rossinis father played the horn, there is no horn concerto by Rossini. And, the composers name as above is Antonio Rosetti, no matter he was born as Franz Anton Roesler (never Frantisek Antonin Roesler, as he was a descendant from a German family in Bohemia Bohemia was bilingual then, as Czech Republic did not exist then.) Nevertheless Happy Holidays -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaun Cooper Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:48 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] double concerto Rossetti/Rossini concertii are nice.. Coop ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] goodbye Fidelio/Eroica
At best, I do not expect them ever to exceed student grade Precisely the sort of thing that, as a kid in the early '60s, I heard my father's friends say about Japanese cars, cameras, electronics, etc. Well, there are some parallels to be drawn, but there are also other considerations. In the overall scheme of things, I expect Korea to emerge as the next Japan before China does. Japan has already turned to Korea and China to produce certain components of quality Japanese-made goods to keep the costs down, thereby protecting their market share by closing the back door. For instance, in the motorcycle world, several of the Japanese bikes have components and systems made in China. Often the Chinese parts are of the cast variety (molten metal poured into a mold) as the rough Chinese finish can be cleaned-up by cheap (for now) Chinese labor. However, the Koreans (of the Southern persuasion) are on the move, and have apparently done so well producing some of the more precision parts that a few ENTIRE Japanese motorcycles are COMPLETELY made there in South Korea. So, based on the above, I would expect Yamaha, having emerged as a quality brand, to protect its market share by having raw parts made all over the world, each country contributing what it does best and cheapest. One might think that rough valve sets and certain formed tubing might be made in China, finished in Korea, and assembled in major market areas... such as (in my case) the USA. Then you have the cheapness of foreign labor allied with the perceived precision of Japanese-manufactured consumer goods, all gathered-up behind the banner of a major brand Made In The USA (again, in my case). If history is a good teacher (and it is), no Yamaha assembly line horn will ever knock off the best craftsman-built horns; Yamaha will either 1) endeavor to keep the small maker small, or 2) buy him out. And you may fill-in your favorite niche-maker here. What science and industry can do is to, eventually, help an assembly line horn APPROACH the best custom horns at around 1/2 the price. And is this not what's happening now? If we were to stick the Lawsons, Dan Rauch, Patterson, etc., on a time clock, how long do you think they could stay interested in giving their best? spoken with thunder from on high Alright Walter, you've been fitting that 1st valve slide for 5-minutes now! Just stick the thing together and MOVE ON! bellowed by Neanderthanlesqe union goon into cramped work cubicle Hey Rauch, you'se only got deese heah five bells made? You'se is s'posed to have TEN. Get 'em done by day's end or GO FIND YUHSELF ANUDDAH JOB, CHUMP! Private experimentation drives the state-of-the-art, and mass production institutionalizes it. We need both. Pretty soon, all of China will be Wal-Mart's shill, but only until the lion grows teeth big enough to eat the guy with the whip chair. jrc in SC ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS
A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS By Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Twas the night before Kopprasch, when all through the house Not a hornist was playing, not even some Strauss; The Holtons were packed in their cases with care, In hopes that St. Dennis soon would be there. The students were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of symphony jobs danced in their heads; As Mamma and I filled out financial aid forms, We wished that those kids had never been born! With auditions looming for college and schools, These two musicians were acting like fools. Playing only solos, excerpts, and such, Their playing was not to be considered, much. Add to these facts that these kids had big heads, Mamma and I were in the throes of great dread. Since money was tight and the wallet quite thin, Unless they got scholarships, the future was grim. When out on the lawn there arose such a sound, I sprang from the desk like a deer on a bound! Away to the window, I flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash! The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave the lustre of midday to objects below, When what to my wondering eyes should appear, But a gigantic sleigh and eight great-big reindeer! A distinguished man had his hand on the rein, I new in a moment that it surely was St. Brain. More rapid than Al Cass his coursers they came, And he free buzzed, and shouted, and called them by name: Now, Alex! now Kruspe! now Conn and Holton! On, Yamaha! on Geyer! on, Schmid and Lawson! To the top of the range! to the pedal notes fall! Now play away! play away! play away all! When great horn players perform, they take the stage tall. They play solos perfectly, with no warm up at all! So up to the roof-top the coursers they flew, With a sleigh full of music, and St. Dennis too. And then, in an eighth note, I heard on the roof The puffing and blowing of each little toot. As I drew in my head, and was fumbling around, Down the chimney came St. Dennis, ready to sound. He was dressed in his tails, and patent leather shoes, And he then said to me, In a minute, great news! A bundle of music he had flung on his back, And in his right hand, a Marcus Bona pack. I stared at his face, and his eyes were afire, and I knew in his life, there was only one desire, to take out a horn and make music, not noise, and do it perfectly, with confidence and poise! He opened the gig bag and picked up his horn, like I knew he had done since the day he was born. He then played the Siegfried with nary a clam, and all I could think of was hot damn! And this great performance had awakened the kids, Who came in a'running, and put on the skids. They were all shaken, scared, and bewildered of that Since the only horn playing they had done had sounded like crap. He then played Till Eulenspiegel with nary a crack, And all with perfect rhythm, dynamics and attack. His beautiful tone was simply amazing, Not to mention his incredible phrasing. The kids starting yelling, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? WE'LL NEVER SUCCEED IF WE STILL SOUND LIKE CRAP! And then St. Dennis said, Please, don't despair. There is remedy for all problems, so there. My instructions, now, you should perfectly heed, If you really ever, ever want to succeed. St. Dennis then reached down into his sack, And pulled out some music and handed it back. There are five fundamentals to playing horn well, Without support for you air, your playing will smell. A strong embouchure gives you right notes and range, Good articulation keeps things from sounding strange. One must know their intervals and play pitches in tune, Or else you will clam and play like a bufoon! You need perfect rhythm, without any glitches, Otherwise, you'll have the audience in stitches. Put it all together and what have you got? Why, great playing, for sure, and crap it is not! If you work on the basics one hour per day, Then people will listen, they might even pay! So practice these studies, numbers one through sixty. Until you have assuredness and consistency. This time you invest is always well spent, Especially when you perform at any event. Your excerpts and solos will go like the wind, Since you know all the techniques to employ within. A tricky passage is now in your grasp, Since you have practiced and practiced: KOPPRASCH!!! With a wink of his eye and a nod of his head, I've got others to tell, tonight, he said. And then with his horn and his music in hand, Up the chimney he went, fast as fast can. He sprang to his sleigh and buzzed to his team, Away they all flew, as if in a dream. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, Happy KOPPRASCH to all and to all a good night! Copywrong, 1999, revised versions, 2000, 2002, 2004 Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist SEASONINGS GREETONINGS and MOSTESTEST OF FUNNINGS FOR THE HOLIDAYS!!! Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Exit 2
Re: [Hornlist] A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS
Now, my Christmas is complete!! Thank you, Professor!!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:14 AM Subject: spam: [Hornlist] A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS By Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Twas the night before Kopprasch, when all through the house Not a hornist was playing, not even some Strauss; The Holtons were packed in their cases with care, In hopes that St. Dennis soon would be there. The students were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of symphony jobs danced in their heads; As Mamma and I filled out financial aid forms, We wished that those kids had never been born! With auditions looming for college and schools, These two musicians were acting like fools. Playing only solos, excerpts, and such, Their playing was not to be considered, much. Add to these facts that these kids had big heads, Mamma and I were in the throes of great dread. Since money was tight and the wallet quite thin, Unless they got scholarships, the future was grim. When out on the lawn there arose such a sound, I sprang from the desk like a deer on a bound! Away to the window, I flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash! The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave the lustre of midday to objects below, When what to my wondering eyes should appear, But a gigantic sleigh and eight great-big reindeer! A distinguished man had his hand on the rein, I new in a moment that it surely was St. Brain. More rapid than Al Cass his coursers they came, And he free buzzed, and shouted, and called them by name: Now, Alex! now Kruspe! now Conn and Holton! On, Yamaha! on Geyer! on, Schmid and Lawson! To the top of the range! to the pedal notes fall! Now play away! play away! play away all! When great horn players perform, they take the stage tall. They play solos perfectly, with no warm up at all! So up to the roof-top the coursers they flew, With a sleigh full of music, and St. Dennis too. And then, in an eighth note, I heard on the roof The puffing and blowing of each little toot. As I drew in my head, and was fumbling around, Down the chimney came St. Dennis, ready to sound. He was dressed in his tails, and patent leather shoes, And he then said to me, In a minute, great news! A bundle of music he had flung on his back, And in his right hand, a Marcus Bona pack. I stared at his face, and his eyes were afire, and I knew in his life, there was only one desire, to take out a horn and make music, not noise, and do it perfectly, with confidence and poise! He opened the gig bag and picked up his horn, like I knew he had done since the day he was born. He then played the Siegfried with nary a clam, and all I could think of was hot damn! And this great performance had awakened the kids, Who came in a'running, and put on the skids. They were all shaken, scared, and bewildered of that Since the only horn playing they had done had sounded like crap. He then played Till Eulenspiegel with nary a crack, And all with perfect rhythm, dynamics and attack. His beautiful tone was simply amazing, Not to mention his incredible phrasing. The kids starting yelling, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? WE'LL NEVER SUCCEED IF WE STILL SOUND LIKE CRAP! And then St. Dennis said, Please, don't despair. There is remedy for all problems, so there. My instructions, now, you should perfectly heed, If you really ever, ever want to succeed. St. Dennis then reached down into his sack, And pulled out some music and handed it back. There are five fundamentals to playing horn well, Without support for you air, your playing will smell. A strong embouchure gives you right notes and range, Good articulation keeps things from sounding strange. One must know their intervals and play pitches in tune, Or else you will clam and play like a bufoon! You need perfect rhythm, without any glitches, Otherwise, you'll have the audience in stitches. Put it all together and what have you got? Why, great playing, for sure, and crap it is not! If you work on the basics one hour per day, Then people will listen, they might even pay! So practice these studies, numbers one through sixty. Until you have assuredness and consistency. This time you invest is always well spent, Especially when you perform at any event. Your excerpts and solos will go like the wind, Since you know all the techniques to employ within. A tricky passage is now in your grasp, Since you have practiced and practiced: KOPPRASCH!!! With a wink of his eye and a nod of his head, I've got others to tell, tonight, he said. And then with his horn and his music in hand, Up the chimney he went, fast as fast can. He sprang to his sleigh and buzzed to his team, Away they all flew, as if in a dream. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, Happy KOPPRASCH to all and to all a good night! Copywrong, 1999, revised versions, 2000, 2002, 2004 Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist SEASONINGS GREETONINGS
Re: [Hornlist] A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS
Merry Christmas Professor! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:14:06 To:horn@music.memphis.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS A VISIT FROM ST. DENNIS By Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Twas the night before Kopprasch, when all through the house Not a hornist was playing, not even some Strauss; The Holtons were packed in their cases with care, In hopes that St. Dennis soon would be there. The students were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of symphony jobs danced in their heads; As Mamma and I filled out financial aid forms, We wished that those kids had never been born! With auditions looming for college and schools, These two musicians were acting like fools. Playing only solos, excerpts, and such, Their playing was not to be considered, much. Add to these facts that these kids had big heads, Mamma and I were in the throes of great dread. Since money was tight and the wallet quite thin, Unless they got scholarships, the future was grim. When out on the lawn there arose such a sound, I sprang from the desk like a deer on a bound! Away to the window, I flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash! The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave the lustre of midday to objects below, When what to my wondering eyes should appear, But a gigantic sleigh and eight great-big reindeer! A distinguished man had his hand on the rein, I new in a moment that it surely was St. Brain. More rapid than Al Cass his coursers they came, And he free buzzed, and shouted, and called them by name: Now, Alex! now Kruspe! now Conn and Holton! On, Yamaha! on Geyer! on, Schmid and Lawson! To the top of the range! to the pedal notes fall! Now play away! play away! play away all! When great horn players perform, they take the stage tall. They play solos perfectly, with no warm up at all! So up to the roof-top the coursers they flew, With a sleigh full of music, and St. Dennis too. And then, in an eighth note, I heard on the roof The puffing and blowing of each little toot. As I drew in my head, and was fumbling around, Down the chimney came St. Dennis, ready to sound. He was dressed in his tails, and patent leather shoes, And he then said to me, In a minute, great news! A bundle of music he had flung on his back, And in his right hand, a Marcus Bona pack. I stared at his face, and his eyes were afire, and I knew in his life, there was only one desire, to take out a horn and make music, not noise, and do it perfectly, with confidence and poise! He opened the gig bag and picked up his horn, like I knew he had done since the day he was born. He then played the Siegfried with nary a clam, and all I could think of was hot damn! And this great performance had awakened the kids, Who came in a'running, and put on the skids. They were all shaken, scared, and bewildered of that Since the only horn playing they had done had sounded like crap. He then played Till Eulenspiegel with nary a crack, And all with perfect rhythm, dynamics and attack. His beautiful tone was simply amazing, Not to mention his incredible phrasing. The kids starting yelling, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? WE'LL NEVER SUCCEED IF WE STILL SOUND LIKE CRAP! And then St. Dennis said, Please, don't despair. There is remedy for all problems, so there. My instructions, now, you should perfectly heed, If you really ever, ever want to succeed. St. Dennis then reached down into his sack, And pulled out some music and handed it back. There are five fundamentals to playing horn well, Without support for you air, your playing will smell. A strong embouchure gives you right notes and range, Good articulation keeps things from sounding strange. One must know their intervals and play pitches in tune, Or else you will clam and play like a bufoon! You need perfect rhythm, without any glitches, Otherwise, you'll have the audience in stitches. Put it all together and what have you got? Why, great playing, for sure, and crap it is not! If you work on the basics one hour per day, Then people will listen, they might even pay! So practice these studies, numbers one through sixty. Until you have assuredness and consistency. This time you invest is always well spent, Especially when you perform at any event. Your excerpts and solos will go like the wind, Since you know all the techniques to employ within. A tricky passage is now in your grasp, Since you have practiced and practiced: KOPPRASCH!!! With a wink of his eye and a nod of his head, I've got others to tell, tonight, he said. And then with his horn and his music in hand, Up the chimney he went, fast as fast can. He sprang to his sleigh and buzzed to his team, Away they all flew, as if in a dream. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, Happy KOPPRASCH to all and to all a good night! Copywrong, 1999, revised versions, 2000, 2002, 2004 Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist SEASONINGS GREETONINGS and MOSTESTEST OF
Re: [Hornlist] goodbye Fidelio/Eroica
So should we start looking for quality horns from Hyundai, Samsung, Goldstar, Daewoo, etc.? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. I expect Korea to emerge as the next Japan before China does. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] goodbye Fidelio/Eroica
So should we start looking for quality horns from Hyundai, Samsung, Goldstar, Daewoo, etc.? A.C. Having lived in that remarkable country for two years, I would say that it is within the realm of possibility. Korean pianos especially the Sammick brand are very nice pianos, so it might be just a matter of time. Happy Holidays to All, Mark L. P.S. It is no longer Goldstar but it is now LG. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Vancouver
Planning a bit ahead; I will be in Vancouver for about a week in mid-February (16-24). For a number of reasons, not the least of which being the more or less continuous thread on this list about taking your horn on airplanes, I'd prefer to leave the old axe home, but I'd rather not take an extended break from playing. Is there anyone in the Vancouver, BC vicinity that either has a second horn that they are not using or knows of a music school or instrument dealer that I could arrange a short term rental/loan? I'm not too particular, though something in an 8D would make me feel mighty at home. Anyone out there have something (or even some horn-related tips on what to do in Vancouver) to offer? Peter Hirsch ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
