Re: [Hornlist] Beginning Methods

2005-04-21 Thread Herbert Foster
Boy, you had it easy. The music direcector where I went to school did all that
(except Tonette) PLUS footbal marching band before school, high school
orchestra during 3rd period, and chorus at noon. In spite of that he inspired
me to love music and to play the horn.

Of course that was in the days when I had to walk 5 miles to school in 5 feet
of snow uphill both ways. But seriously, he did all that, and I had a ball
doing all of that.

Herb Foster
--- Paul Mansur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, April 20, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
 
 
  How on earth can you teach someone to play an instrument in an ensemble
  setting?  Seems impossible to me.
 
 
 Simple.  You begin with 20 or 30 kids and get a good Band Instrument 
 Method.  That's how I got my start, and the way most of us began in 
 what is known as instrumental music education in this country.  That's 
 also how I started my students when I was a public school band 
 director.  There was no other choice.  My schedule included daily 
 classes of two elementary school beginning bands, an intermediate 
 elementary school band, a junior high beginning band, a junior high 
 advanced band, a high school band, and two pre-band Tonette classes for 
 fourth graders.  I coached solos, ensembles, et al plus a pep band for 
 basketball games before and after school and at night.  After six years 
 of this with about 250 to 300 students daily I gave up and went back to 
 school to get a terminal degree, (the union card for college 
 employment) and found an easier way to make a living.  For one thing 
 positive, if you do it right you learn a LOT about ALL the wind and 
 percussion instruments.  Those who also had to teach an orchestra had 
 to also get quite familiar with the strings.
   They're mostly out of print, now, but there were some good Beginning 
 books 50 years ago.  Easy Steps To The Band comes to mind.  It 
 contained much very practical material and was about as effective as it 
 was possible for a band method to be.  I always had some fine ensembles 
 and a handful of All-State players every year.  Boy!  Talk about Work!  
 That was WORK!
 
 CORdially,  Mansur's Answers
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Beginning Methods

2005-04-21 Thread Alan Cole
Barefoot?  -AC.
 ~~~
Of course that was in the days when I had to walk 5 miles to school in 5 
feet of snow uphill both ways.

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Re: [Hornlist] Cabbage cries wolf

2005-04-21 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Ah. how boring life would be if we all had the same sense of humour!
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
 
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http://lawrenceyates.co.uk




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Re: [Hornlist] Cabbage cries wolf

2005-04-21 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
 
In a message dated 4/21/2005 1:35:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I don't  read anything Cabbage writes, nor do I read any message tittled: 
re: horn  digest. Every time I have read something of The Cabbage, it has 
been  really stupid humor  a wast of my time. What is it, one in ten that he 
 
says something of content? 




Perhaps you might make some suggestions as to what constitutes content, as  
this message seems to be pretty devoid, as well.
 
Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited
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[Hornlist] Tone quality

2005-04-21 Thread Ray Sonja Crenshaw
 I'm going to indulge myself and repost Cabbage's last message
 There's a lot of dross on the list.  This is the real deal

Yeah, I especially like the part where he said that some horn players are 
brighter than
others. Y'know, I've noticed that myself.

jrc

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[Hornlist] How Did They Find My Tux?

2005-04-21 Thread Ray Sonja Crenshaw
My son plays tr*mbone (family list, no cursing) in the local high school band, 
and today
he received a letter from his band director containing instructions for their 
upcoming
spring concert. Well, his director also e-mailed these instructions to me. I 
haven't yet
read the whole thing because the following sentence shook me to the foundations:

***
Members of the Symphonic Band should arrive at 6:45 p.m. in your formal 
outfit.
***

My question is, How-the-heck did the Symphonic Band members know where I kept 
my tuxedo?
...and exactly *how many* of them does he expect will fit into it?

It's bad enough that, just this morning, I shot a bear in my pajamas... but now 
I have to
put up with THIS?

jrc

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Re: [Hornlist] How Did They Find My Tux?

2005-04-21 Thread Paul Mansur
On Thursday, April 21, 2005, at 04:48 PM, Ray  Sonja Crenshaw wrote:
It's bad enough that, just this morning, I shot a bear in my 
pajamas... but now I have to
put up with THIS?

How in the world did a bear steal your jammies and get into them?  or 
are you really built like that?

Gotta go!
Mansur's Answers
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Re: [Hornlist] How Did They Find My Tux?

2005-04-21 Thread Bill Tyler


Ray  Sonja Crenshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My son plays tr*mbone (family list, no cursing) in the local high school band, 
and today
he received a letter from his band director containing instructions for their 
upcoming
spring concert. Well, his director also e-mailed these instructions to me. I 
haven't yet
read the whole thing because the following sentence shook me to the foundations:

***
Members of the Symphonic Band should arrive at 6:45 p.m. in your formal 
outfit.
***

My question is, How-the-heck did the Symphonic Band members know where I kept 
my tuxedo?
...and exactly *how many* of them does he expect will fit into it?

 

Maybe that message was meant for your wife ... now how did those Symphonic Band 
members know where her evening gown is?  


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[Hornlist] hornroller.. new to me!

2005-04-21 Thread Leonard Brown
Its a shock when someone like me, that knows everything, stumbles across 
something new like hornroller.  How long has this been going on?  Check out the 
Hatch Horns.

 http://www.hornroller.com/


Leonard in Laredo
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Re: [Hornlist] Beginning Methods

2005-04-21 Thread Wendell L Exline
Hi Paul,

Your message about the olden days  was fun.   How familiar it all
sounded.  My 7th grade band had  eight horns in the section.   One was
an old double Conn Schmidt model with a piston change valve.
Mine was a Conn 4D,  one was a Pan American single F, and the others were
a mixture of rain catchers and mellophones.  We also had a 65 piece
orchestra.

The director took away from any of the horn players, the Eb crooks, so we
would learn to transpose the Eb parts,  which were in the majority in
those days  Within a month or so we were all transposing the Eb parts
with no problems.

By high school time doubles were dominating and we were all on the way to
be virtuosos(i).  It was a great time and the spring solo contests were
great adventures.   About 1937 (I think) the nation was divided into
regions and the solo contests were in three stages.   There was the
district, the winners of whom went to the state.  The state winners were
eligble for the national-regionals.   There were other competitions
around the country including the Tri-State Festival in Enid, OK,  which
began in 1935 and continues even today.

Well Paul,  we grew up with it and it has been a great ride!

Pete Exline
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Re: [Hornlist] Beginning Methods

2005-04-21 Thread G
Hi,

I learned out of the good ol' First Division Band
Method.

A few years later, I found my old copy in a box, so I
took it and cut out the picture of Phil Farkas,
entitled How  To Hold The French Horn In F and stuck
it on my locker at the university. Just in case I ever
forgot.

Thing that puzzled me was that I was completely lost
if ever I had to hold a French Horn in Eb, or one in
D, or one in A, or God forbid one in B.

Gary

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[Hornlist] Bright or Dark

2005-04-21 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
   To me, bright and dark are sort of two dimensional descriptions, like 
painting opaque yellow or brown on a flat surface.  Niether entirely 
satisfying.  
Wouldn't it be great to have a sound that's like looking into a deep crystal 
clear pool of water?  Not bright or dark, but complete and vivid.

-Steve Mumford
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[Hornlist] From The Oriental Schmidt House...

2005-04-21 Thread Ray Sonja Crenshaw
Since there's not much going on here on the list, and since this is going on 
over at
e-Bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7317410797

...I'd like to take this opportunity to inquire about the innate goodness of 
these horns.

For those too jaded to follow the link, it's a YHR-863, Yamaha's version of a 
Schmidt
piston-change valve double. I remember seeing these in a Yamaha brochure back 
in the early
90's but I've never actually seen a real one.

This one on e-Bay has been listed at least three times (possibly more, I don't 
know) and
has gone, not only unsold, but unbid-upon. I saw it was $3,500 USD with no 
bids, then
$3,200 and no bids, and now it's listed at $3,000 and six days left to do 
business. The
BUY-IT-NOW price has always been $3,500.

Q: Considered on their own terms, how do these horns play?

Q: Compared to a real Schmidt, how do these horns play? How's the high Bb? Did 
Yamaha's
acoustic engineers succeed in replicating the burr (Dave Krehbiel's term) on 
this note?

Q: Do these horns project? ...or do they just make pretty--but local--noise?

And no, I'm not going to bid on it. It's just curiosity on my part. I won't be 
driving out
to Bellevue, Washington to try it out, so I'm asking for a virtual trial on 
the list
here. If you've owned or played one, I'm interested in hearing from you.

jrc in SC




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