RE: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
I had an Anvil style case custom made for my cut-bell Conn 8D about 12 years ago and flew with it 6 or so times to Europe, once to Japan, and a dozen or so times in the states. I always checked it with the gorillas, and never had a dent, crease, or broken solder joint. I don't have use for it any more and would love to sell it. Please contact me off the list atWhitacreHill at aol.com if you're interested. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
If you fly a lot with your horn (an awful lot), you might just want to get a flight case. Something along the lines of the Anvil (extremely heavy and extremely expensive) or a Pelican (not as heavy, not near as expensive) will do well and the untrained airport monkeys can throw your horn around as much as they'd like (if, in the case of the anvil, they have the physical strength to do so) and nothing will happen to it. It may cost $25 to $50 extra to drag it along, but it sure beats shipping it or gambling with the chances of having to check a small case. This is the case I have for my recording monitors to go on flights: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/330278-REG/Pelican_PC0370_0370_Cub e_Case_Black_.html It's big, but it's safe and very well built. If you don't like the idea of putting your horn in with all of that "pick-and-pluck" foam (I wouldn't), enclose the horn in a plastic or cloth bag. Or if you're REALLY in the mood for a sweet case, go to www.casecad.com and have them custom make a case insert for you that fits your horn to the 1/1000 of an inch. I have them make all of the case interiors for my microphones (many of which are more valuable than my Lawson) and they do phenomenal work. It's a tad extreme for the average hornist, but for those who find themselves on planes every other week or so, it's a worthwhile investment. Cheers- Jeremy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
On 1 Jul 2008, at 12:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in Manchester buses are great! (if you like the smell of vomit, don't mind sitting on seats that you stick to and find being beaten up a turn-on) C'mon Lawrence, you _know_ they're talking about long distance coaches. Not those ghost buses that drive around the inner city completely empty until you step on one. When you do they suddenly (Harry Potter like) fill up with delirious drunks and armed hoodies. Tom ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
Whatever you do, be sure to get to your get in plenty of time to explain your situation to a gate agent politely and board promptly. Expect overhead compartment space to be at a huge premium, now that major airlines are charging $15 for the first bag, EACH WAY. Explain your situation politely again to a flight attendant as you board. You might not have a problem getting your instrument onto the plane, only to find that some other surly passenger is hell bent on avoiding the extra fee by cramming overstuffed and/or oversized carry-on wherever possible, and may not really care what's in your case. John Baumgart ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
I think the instrument on the plane situation is going to get worse. Some airlines are going to a pay per bag or pay for over one bag system to try to cut down on weight to reduce costs. There was an interview on NY radio with the head of the flight attendants union today talking about all the people trying to cram stuff on planes so they did not have to pay extra. It also spoke of the fact that because different airlines had different rules and charges it was impossible for airport security to enforce the policy because it was not uniform. The attendants union is complaining because of the extra work. Bottom line cranky attendants and hassled gate people are less inclined to be helpful and accommodate something for one person and not another. I have had problems with a MB1 case fitting through the template at airport security. The two piece case works really well. Debbie Schmidt Tisch Center for the Arts ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
This mirrors my own experience on flying in smaller planes. I have done most of my flying with my horn out of the Dayton airport and it nearly always requires a connecting flight to a bigger hub via a smaller plane, causing a little conflict with those that want me to check my horn. When it comes to cases specifically, as has been mentioned in the thread, the case with the unzippable bell piece can make dealing with small planes a lot easier. I personally have not owned or travelled with such a case but a number of my colleagues have used them extensively and said that it allowed them to store part of under the seat and another part in the smaller overheard. Another thing to consider, though, is that when you do NOT have one of these cases, is that the flight crew can often accommodate your instrument in another ways. I have used empty seats and buckled my case down as if it were a passenger and also have had the crew place the case in the crew's closet in lieu of an empty seat. One of my former teachers once told me his default Yamaha cut-bell suitcase-style case was placed in between the pilots in the cockpit even. This is definetly easier said than done but calmly and courteously asking the attendant for this special request will end more favorably than angrily demanding. I will admit that on my first trip with my horn, I actually did check my horn under the bug squasher only if it was placed on top of the other luggage and would be strapped down so it didn't move. They assured the safety of my instrument despite honestly having no idea how they would handle it. When the plane landed my horn placed in the beastly Thompson Edition cut bell case(shameless plug) came out unscathed. Since then I have never had to check it under the plane. Feigning ignorance and surprise at the expected size of the overhead compartment for which your case was specifically designed as well as politely explaining the fragile, costly and sometimes irreparable nature of instruments has worked well for me in obtaining special accommodations for your horn on small planes. Interestingly enough, the smoothest time I have had was on a connecting flight from Malpensa to Catania, Italy on Alitalia in which the pilot himself helped me find a place for my horn and let the crew know to keep the drama down. One thing I haven't quite understood is why the attendants act like they have never seen an instrument on a plane before.(ZOMG HORNS ON A PLANE) Nearly whenever I fly, I see others walking around the airport with instruments so I would imagine it's more common than you think and thus would be a fairly frequent occurance for the flight attendants to handle. Nevertheless, their often appearant and visible annoyance or perceived crisis at my request for instrumental safety is why I insist on being calm and polite with requests because... they seem a little stressed out already. (Not that I would necessarily blame them based on how rude many of the passengers are to them) Chris - Original Message From: Nicholas Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn list Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:48:04 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case? I just finished a day of travel headaches with Delta airlines. They had me on a tiny twin engine connection jet, and they tried their hardest to get me to check my Marcus Bonna MB5, but I told them that the case would fit, that it had been designed to fit on airplanes, and that I had done it all before with no problem. Skeptically, they let me board. The seats on the plane were set up so that there was a line of single window seats, then an isle, then a line of double seats, one on the isle, one by the window. My seat was one of the single window seats, and to my horror, my case, the case that I bought specifically to fit on these darn things, did not fit under those single seats! The only thing that saved my horn from the claws of the trained monkeys was the fact that it BARELY fit under the double seats, so when nobody was looking I snatched one of the roomier seats. The point of this lengthy anecdote is I was wondering if there is a better flight case than the MB5? I've heard that the MB3 clamshell style fits, even though it's not technically a flight case. I have to fly back in a couple of weeks, and I just hope that there is another open seat that I can sneak into. Oh, and they lost my luggage too. Not that I'm bitter or anything... Thanks for the help, Nick Hartman ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
Here in Manchester buses are great! (if you like the smell of vomit, don't mind sitting on seats that you stick to and find being beaten up a turn-on) Cheers, Lawrence (not really, I'm just pandering to the stereotype again) lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
I use the 2 piece MB case when I travel (not sure of the number). In a case like the window seat I unzip the bell and can but the body under the seat and sometimes slide the bell close by or in the overhead. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
At 6:51 PM -0400 6/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go on the bus next time! Speaking of buses, what's the bus service like in the US these days? I take the bus when I go to Mexico City, but only the ETN line, as they have only 29 seats with ample space. Three columns, one on the left, two on the right. Comfortable! Plus - a sandwich and beverage and a coffee/tea bar. Regards, Carlberg -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes Aguascalientes, Ags. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?
Go on the bus next time! lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
