Re: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves
So the correct way to determine how to pronounce Kruspe would be to visit Erfurt and survey people. It is too far north to be pronounced "Grusbaä," though. John Baumgart - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves Sorry, Paul, I sent the correction to Steve. You should throw your German book away. Kruspe should be pronounced as "crew´s- peh" - There is no Umlaut involved. Ooops, in Saxony (former East Germany) they do something like that in dialect: Tinte - Tünte - Tunte, Fluegel - Fliegel, "gann isch mal rum krieschen" or "gaen´se fleisch ribagommn ?". == Paul Mansur schrieb: > I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans > pronounce this > with "pursed lips," or so read my German instruction > books a generation > or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as > Kryoospeh. I > think a German could understand what you said and maybe > even spell it > correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. > Expert? In > this instance, Not me, coach! > > Mansur's conditional Answer > > On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: > > > I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the > correct > > pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/baumgart%40chicagonet.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Steven announces, "Kruspe does not have an umlaut." That is for sure as the Kruspe boys, Karl, his sons Eduard and Friedrich, and his grandsons, Fritz and Walter, have been passed on for many years now. BTW, The Kruspe name can be traced as far back as 1530 AD and it was Fritz and Walter that invented the first workable double horn in 1897. The ED Kruspe company was begun in 1834 and is now managed by Peter Heldmann. The last family member to manage the business was Professor George Wendel. The first non-family member manager was Rudi Schneider who was trained by Fritz. Peter is the firs manager with no connections to the Kruspe family, but he has earned the title of master craftsman which in Germany is no small feat. Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyway, they do not play Kruspe here any more, but a few for fun, just > nostalgic. Any opinions on the new Kruspes? -- Justin Fletcher ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Sorry, Paul, I sent the correction to Steve. You should throw your German book away. Kruspe should be pronounced as "crew´s- peh" - There is no Umlaut involved. Ooops, in Saxony (former East Germany) they do something like that in dialect: Tinte - Tünte - Tunte, Fluegel - Fliegel, "gann isch mal rum krieschen" or "gaen´se fleisch ribagommn ?". == Paul Mansur schrieb: > I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans > pronounce this > with "pursed lips," or so read my German instruction > books a generation > or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as > Kryoospeh. I > think a German could understand what you said and maybe > even spell it > correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. > Expert? In > this instance, Not me, coach! > > Mansur's conditional Answer > > On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: > > > I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the > correct > > pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Crew´s-peh or Grew-speh would sound like we pronounce "Krus-pe". There is never any "ue" (Umlaut) in Kruspe. Steve, throw your book away. Anyway, they do not play Kruspe here any more, but a few for fun, just nostalgic. = Steven Ovitsky schrieb: > Kruspe does not have an umlaut. > > Steven Ovitsky > > > I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans > pronounce this > with "pursed lips," or so read my German instruction > books a generation > or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as > Kryoospeh. I > think a German could understand what you said and maybe > even spell it > correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. > Expert? In > this instance, Not me, coach! > > Mansur's conditional Answer > > On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: > > > I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the > correct > > pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? > > > > > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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from: Prof.Hans Pizka Even Bob=B4s message is great, nobody has to excuse to me about his poor ha= bit, as I will never borrow his instrument or blow on his mouthpiece, while= nobody ever complained when had to borrow one of my horns (rare occasion o= ff course) or mouth piece (well, have new ones at hand or in my horn case a= ll the time). OOPS...I'm not sure what I ate for breakfast (or when) this day: http://web.mit.edu/robob/www/IHS97.html ;-) Bob Marlatt Boston MA ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Kruspe does not have an umlaut. Steven Ovitsky I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans pronounce this with "pursed lips," or so read my German instruction books a generation or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as Kryoospeh. I think a German could understand what you said and maybe even spell it correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. Expert? In this instance, Not me, coach! Mansur's conditional Answer On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: > I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the correct > pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? > ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Did you see the horn for sale sign at IHS at Indiana U? It had a "krispie wrap." I would worry about breaking such a horn. Herb Foster --- Paul Mansur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:52 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote: > > > At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: > >> Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, > > > > Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? > > > > I used to know a hornist who always pronounced Kruspe as Krispy. > > Cheers, Mansur's Answers > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans pronounce this with "pursed lips," or so read my German instruction books a generation or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as Kryoospeh. I think a German could understand what you said and maybe even spell it correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. Expert? In this instance, Not me, coach! Mansur's conditional Answer On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the correct pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Even Bob´s message is great, nobody has to excuse to me about his poor habit, as I will never borrow his instrument or blow on his mouthpiece, while nobody ever complained when had to borrow one of my horns (rare occasion off course) or mouth piece (well, have new ones at hand or in my horn case all the time). My recommendations are as usual just recommendations not orders & I am in no way offended if one does not follow. The results will speak for themselves anyway. But dont come again with complaints, please. = "Walter Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hey Bob, > > If were me a few years ago, I would have to apologize to my waistline. At > one time in my life, I could just look at a glazed donut and a coke and > gain twenty pounds... > > Needless to say, I chuckled at your great post... > > Walt Lewis > > > At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, you wrote: > > >Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, washed it > >down with coca-cola, and did not brush my teeth. That said I deeply > >apologize to: > >1. My teeth > >2. My leadpipe > >3. Hans Pizka > >4. My mouthpiece > >5. My valves > >6. My cholesterol level > > > >I feel much better now. > > > >Bob Marlatt > >Boston MA > >___ > >post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >set your options at > >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/welewis%40myexcel.com > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/03 > -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Hey Bob, If were me a few years ago, I would have to apologize to my waistline. At one time in my life, I could just look at a glazed donut and a coke and gain twenty pounds... Needless to say, I chuckled at your great post... Walt Lewis At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, you wrote: Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, washed it down with coca-cola, and did not brush my teeth. That said I deeply apologize to: 1. My teeth 2. My leadpipe 3. Hans Pizka 4. My mouthpiece 5. My valves 6. My cholesterol level I feel much better now. Bob Marlatt Boston MA ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/welewis%40myexcel.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/03 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Crespo is correct, or was it Croossbay or Crosby ? = "Simone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the correct > pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves > > > > I do as well:) > > > > Chris > > --- Paul Mansur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:52 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote: > > > > > > > At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: > > > >> Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, > > > > > > > > Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? > > > > > > > > > > I used to know a hornist who always pronounced Kruspe as Krispy. > > > > > > Cheers, Mansur's Answers > > > > > > ___ > > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > set your options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ywfamily%40netvigator.com > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the correct pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? - Original Message - From: "Chris Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves > I do as well:) > > Chris > --- Paul Mansur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:52 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote: > > > > > At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: > > >> Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, > > > > > > Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? > > > > > > > I used to know a hornist who always pronounced Kruspe as Krispy. > > > > Cheers, Mansur's Answers > > > > ___ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ywfamily%40netvigator.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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I do as well:) Chris --- Paul Mansur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:52 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote: > > > At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: > >> Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, > > > > Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? > > > > I used to know a hornist who always pronounced Kruspe as Krispy. > > Cheers, Mansur's Answers > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:52 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote: At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? I used to know a hornist who always pronounced Kruspe as Krispy. Cheers, Mansur's Answers ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: >Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? I should add that horn players up here in the Great White North buy their doughnuts at Tim Holtons. John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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At 02:08 PM 7/29/03 -0400, Robert Marlatt wrote: >Five minutes before a gig this morning I ate a glazed doughnut, Was it at least a Kruspe Kreme? John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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That is quite true, and I didn't intend to imply that I condoned practicing that much for other instruments. Personally, I think that if you really require that much practice time to improve, you're in the wrong business. See The Art of Horn Playing for Pontifex Farkas' thoughts on practicing. 3 hours daily. Chris --- Herbert Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, and there are lots of piano players out there with repetitive stress > injuries. Probably violinists, too; I just don't know any. > > On the subject, no matter what, if any, your religeous affiliation is, a > Sabbath--a day of rest every week--is a good idea to recharge the batteries > and > put things in perspective. If I do not take a day off each week from my > professional work, I get stale and ineffective. > > Herb Foster > --- Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sweet jesus, 5 hours is too much. 4 is probably the maximum a horn player > > should do, and even then it likely is too much. It's QUALITY not quantity. > > > Don't practice things you do well. 3 hours is plenty. The only people that > > really practice 6 hours a day are the button pushers, aka pianists, > > violinists, > > etc. > > > > Chris > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves
Yeah, and there are lots of piano players out there with repetitive stress injuries. Probably violinists, too; I just don't know any. On the subject, no matter what, if any, your religeous affiliation is, a Sabbath--a day of rest every week--is a good idea to recharge the batteries and put things in perspective. If I do not take a day off each week from my professional work, I get stale and ineffective. Herb Foster --- Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet jesus, 5 hours is too much. 4 is probably the maximum a horn player > should do, and even then it likely is too much. It's QUALITY not quantity. > Don't practice things you do well. 3 hours is plenty. The only people that > really practice 6 hours a day are the button pushers, aka pianists, > violinists, > etc. > > Chris > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Sweet jesus, 5 hours is too much. 4 is probably the maximum a horn player should do, and even then it likely is too much. It's QUALITY not quantity. Don't practice things you do well. 3 hours is plenty. The only people that really practice 6 hours a day are the button pushers, aka pianists, violinists, etc. Chris ...SNIP... > I have another question for all of you professional players and graduate > students. Howw many hours of actual time with the horn at your face in > the practice room not rehearsals is ideal for a college freshman music > major with professional playing aspriations? I can only get about four to > five hours, the hours I' not at work or in class. Will this be > sufficient? I hear about those who get six hours plus of individual > practice time, and I don't see how it is possible for the full time > student without expiriencing sleep deficiencies. > -Brittany > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Brushing the teeth before playing can maintain a better hygiene inside the horn. Not he food residue will not accumulate in the inside of the horn, but our body may also be more healthy. (The food residue in the horn may contain bacteria) If a layer of food residue dirts are formed inside the horn, the horn sound may not good. Simone - Original Message - From: "kerri c davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves > Hey, everyone, I'd say I agree with Hans. > > My Conn 6D's valves are leaky because it is a twenty-plus year old school > instrument and has been used and abused in the past. In its entire life, > I've probably given it the most attention, and before me it sat in its > case for at least ten years. But not only is it good for your horn, but > great for your teeth!! The last time I went to the dentist, he complained > because there was nothing for him to clean off... I was plaque and cavity > free! Besides, when my mouth feels clean, I feel my instrument responds > better. There is no scientific or logical explanation I can think of, > that's just what I feel. Maybe my horn is "happier". (Okay Cabbage, have > at it, I asked for it, I can feel it coming). > > I have another question for all of you professional players and graduate > students. Howw many hours of actual time with the horn at your face in > the practice room not rehearsals is ideal for a college freshman music > major with professional playing aspriations? I can only get about four to > five hours, the hours I' not at work or in class. Will this be > sufficient? I hear about those who get six hours plus of individual > practice time, and I don't see how it is possible for the full time > student without expiriencing sleep deficiencies. > -Brittany > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ywfamily%40netvigator.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Senseless practice of five hours is useless, while two to three hours practising with sense is absolutely enough. But practise the things you should do better, not things you can do very well already. Practise any piece of music MUSICALLY, even long tones & scales or interval exercises. Make yourself independent from extensive warm ups. Live the music !!! Do not forget to get a musical background (history, social, composer biographies, opera stories, etc.) - can be acquired during the rests between the practise sessions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kerri c davies Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves Hey, everyone, I'd say I agree with Hans. I have another question for all of you professional players and graduate students. Howw many hours of actual time with the horn at your face in the practice room not rehearsals is ideal for a college freshman music major with professional playing aspriations? I can only get about four to five hours, the hours I' not at work or in class. Will this be sufficient? I hear about those who get six hours plus of individual practice time, and I don't see how it is possible for the full time student without expiriencing sleep deficiencies. -Brittany ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org