Re: [HOT] [Feature Interpretation] #767 - Mali, Bamako

2014-11-21 Thread Blake Girardot
Wow, thats a good one althio, I have no first hand knowledge of what
those are, but they are cool. I have no idea, grain silos is my first
guess, but I don't think they make sense in the middle of the fields
like that, nor do I know if they are divided up inside like these are.
But they could just be interesting huts too.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM, althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the middle of farmland:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/12.454208/-7.976059
 What are those circles?

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Re: [HOT] [Feature Interpretation] #767 - Mali, Bamako

2014-11-21 Thread Pierre Béland
This farmland seems well structured. These circles seem connected one to the 
other. Not sure, but this could be water reservoirs for the adjacent fields.
 Pierre 

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Wow, thats a good one althio, I have no first hand knowledge of what
those are, but they are cool. I have no idea, grain silos is my first
guess, but I don't think they make sense in the middle of the fields
like that, nor do I know if they are divided up inside like these are.
But they could just be interesting huts too.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM, althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the middle of farmland:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/12.454208/-7.976059
 What are those circles?

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Re: [HOT] [Feature Interpretation] #767 - Mali, Bamako

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Collinson

A colonial-era military structure??

Mike

On 21/11/2014 16:07, Pierre Béland wrote:
This farmland seems well structured. These circles seem connected one 
to the other. Not sure, but this could be water reservoirs for the 
adjacent fields.

Pierre


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Wow, thats a good one althio, I have no first hand knowledge of what
those are, but they are cool. I have no idea, grain silos is my first
guess, but I don't think they make sense in the middle of the fields
like that, nor do I know if they are divided up inside like these are.
But they could just be interesting huts too.

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 In the middle of farmland:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/12.454208/-7.976059
 What are those circles?

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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Pat Tressel
Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
a set of imagery.

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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net:

 Josh --

 As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
 http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
 Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.


 That's fantastic news!!

 Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
 communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
 bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


 We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
 source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
 imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
 if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
 in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used
 in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
 keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
 validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
 a set of imagery.

 -- Pat




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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Collinson

Hi Satoshi,

Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. 
I am happy that:


 * The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
   derived from it.
 * The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
   data into the OSM database.
 * The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
   change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the
   context of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT
   under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .


Mike
LWG


On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:


Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net 
mailto:ptres...@myuw.net:


Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox
for Good
http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-goodprogram.

We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in
Crisis Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly
authorizing usage of Skybox for Good imagery in any current
HOT Activation
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the
condition that changesets and/or features that are derived
from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to OSM are
attributed to Skybox.


That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet
that's the communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe
to infer a whole bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)

This could, for example, include the method of attributing
Skybox as the source, or a similar method deemed appropriate
by HOT.


We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down
to source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be
accurate if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to
see what iD does in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be
good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the same behavior as iD,
just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can
also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set
of imagery.

-- Pat




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