Re: [HOT] Thimpu Thromde Data Import

[Rafael Avila Coya]

Hi, Jo:

I am actually preparing the import and the wiki, in collaboration with 
the Nepal team.


On 18/06/16 14:22, Jo wrote:

And if you come to the HOT summit, we'll gladly have a cup of coffee
with you.

I looked at the wiki page. You definitely have done your homework! One
thing I don't fully understand: Why don't you import the housenumbers
together diretly with the buildings? Or will you add the housenumbers
all as nodes afterwards? If you plan to have them on the building
contours, I think it makes sense to add them at the same time.


The reason is that we think it's a good idea to add to the housenumber 
nodes, the street they belong to. Such a task is not very suitable to 
make it through the tasking manager, so I thought the best idea would be 
to have the building footprints to be imported through the tasking 
manager, and the housenumbers and street geometries in another separated 
import, dividing those housenumbers+streets in several chuncks.




It's implied from the text of the wiki page, but maybe you can add that
all changes will be reviewed by human mappers and you may want to
mention the todo list plugin. It may also make sense to mention that
JOSM will be used and that howto instructions will be provided.


I will add that info too.



What I usually see as a question on the imports list is the question how
the data will be maintained/updated in the future. They/we care about
this and it's part of the reason why they ask about the local community.
They might even insist that the whole import is performed or at least
followed up by local people who are familiar with the territory.


This import has in mind the local community involvement. In fact, it's 
the creation of a local OSM community one of the goals, being the import 
just a complement for what Megha and her team will do in Bhutan.


Cheers,

Rafael.



Jo



2016-06-18 13:12 GMT+02:00 john whelan >:

The traditional way is annouce a gathering for coffee then whichever
two or three gather make the decision or sometimes its done by an
exchange of emails in a forum.  In your case I think you are the
local community.

Cheerio John

On 18 June 2016 at 00:07, Megha Shrestha > wrote:

Hello All,

I am Megha Shrestha from Kathmandu Living Labs. We have a local
mapping project with HOT, we are going to conduct in Thimpu,
Bhutan. The project involves training to youth and as well as
government officials from GIS department of Thimpu city. They
have requested us to import existing dataset into OSM. According
to OSM import guideline one of the requirement is to contact a
local OSM community. The problem here is that there is no
existing OSM community in Bhutan but rather a group of GIS
professional. One of the goals of this project is to create a
sustainable OSM community in Bhutan who can take the work
further independently. I would like to ask for comments about
this import before proceeding to the imports mailing list" or
equivalent, because we know there isn't a Bhutan OSM local
community yet, and we just need (if possible) to gather input
before proceeding to the imports mailing list.

The wiki link to the Thimpu Throne dataset import is here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bhutan/Thimphu_Thromde_data_import

Thanks,

Megha Shrestha
Geomatics Engineer
Kathmandu Living Labs

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Re: [HOT] Thimpu Thromde Data Import

[Jo]

And if you come to the HOT summit, we'll gladly have a cup of coffee with
you.

I looked at the wiki page. You definitely have done your homework! One
thing I don't fully understand: Why don't you import the housenumbers
together diretly with the buildings? Or will you add the housenumbers all
as nodes afterwards? If you plan to have them on the building contours, I
think it makes sense to add them at the same time.

It's implied from the text of the wiki page, but maybe you can add that all
changes will be reviewed by human mappers and you may want to mention the
todo list plugin. It may also make sense to mention that JOSM will be used
and that howto instructions will be provided.

What I usually see as a question on the imports list is the question how
the data will be maintained/updated in the future. They/we care about this
and it's part of the reason why they ask about the local community. They
might even insist that the whole import is performed or at least followed
up by local people who are familiar with the territory.

Jo



2016-06-18 13:12 GMT+02:00 john whelan :

> The traditional way is annouce a gathering for coffee then whichever two
> or three gather make the decision or sometimes its done by an exchange of
> emails in a forum.  In your case I think you are the local community.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 18 June 2016 at 00:07, Megha Shrestha  wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am Megha Shrestha from Kathmandu Living Labs. We have a local mapping
>> project with HOT, we are going to conduct in Thimpu, Bhutan. The project
>> involves training to youth and as well as government officials from GIS
>> department of Thimpu city. They have requested us to import existing
>> dataset into OSM. According to OSM import guideline one of the requirement
>> is to contact a local OSM community. The problem here is that there is no
>> existing OSM community in Bhutan but rather a group of GIS professional.
>> One of the goals of this project is to create a sustainable OSM community
>> in Bhutan who can take the work further independently. I would like to
>> ask for comments about this import before proceeding to the imports mailing
>> list" or equivalent, because we know there isn't a Bhutan OSM local
>> community yet, and we just need (if possible) to gather input before
>> proceeding to the imports mailing list.
>>
>> The wiki link to the Thimpu Throne dataset import is here:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bhutan/Thimphu_Thromde_data_import
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Megha Shrestha
>> Geomatics Engineer
>> Kathmandu Living Labs
>>
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Re: [HOT] Thimpu Thromde Data Import

[john whelan]

The traditional way is annouce a gathering for coffee then whichever two or
three gather make the decision or sometimes its done by an exchange of
emails in a forum.  In your case I think you are the local community.

Cheerio John

On 18 June 2016 at 00:07, Megha Shrestha  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am Megha Shrestha from Kathmandu Living Labs. We have a local mapping
> project with HOT, we are going to conduct in Thimpu, Bhutan. The project
> involves training to youth and as well as government officials from GIS
> department of Thimpu city. They have requested us to import existing
> dataset into OSM. According to OSM import guideline one of the requirement
> is to contact a local OSM community. The problem here is that there is no
> existing OSM community in Bhutan but rather a group of GIS professional.
> One of the goals of this project is to create a sustainable OSM community
> in Bhutan who can take the work further independently. I would like to
> ask for comments about this import before proceeding to the imports mailing
> list" or equivalent, because we know there isn't a Bhutan OSM local
> community yet, and we just need (if possible) to gather input before
> proceeding to the imports mailing list.
>
> The wiki link to the Thimpu Throne dataset import is here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bhutan/Thimphu_Thromde_data_import
>
> Thanks,
>
> Megha Shrestha
> Geomatics Engineer
> Kathmandu Living Labs
>
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Re: [HOT] Plea to JOSM mappers to hit the validate button before uploading.

[Enock Seth Nyamador]

Perfect, Polyglot.

-Enock
Le 17 juin 2016 13:06, "Jo"  a écrit :

> actuallly just hitting the validator button is not enough, you need to
> make sure nothing is selected.
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-06-17 14:30 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>
>> You've got the tile in JOSM anyway so if you hit the validate button
>> before uploading you'll see all the crossing ways etc that other mappers
>> have done and hopefully you can correct them before uploading.
>>
>> If you don't hit the validate button then it only validates what you are
>> uploading which is probably perfect.
>>
>> Thanks John
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