Re: [HOT] Anybody has time to handhold me through untangling a task?

2016-11-22 Thread john whelan
African tagging guide?

The highway wiki?

Thanks John

On 22 Nov 2016 8:52 am, "Vao Matua"  wrote:

> Majka,
>
> The mapping in this area is comparable to other projects I've seen in
> Tanzania.
> Over-mapping residential areas and paths is kind of overkill, but
> personally I don't think it hurts to have them mapped.
> The bigger concern I have is buildings mapped as lines, that is something
> that should be mentioned to the mappers so they don't continue that habit.
> It is always good to remind new mappers about the Africa tagging guide.
>
> Thank you for taking on validation of some of these tiles, it can be messy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Emmor
> (Palolo)
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:22 PM, majka  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all. Not sure if this is the right place, but let's try it anyway.
>>
>> Could anybody find time to look at task http://tasks.hotosm.org/projec
>> t/1788#task/91 and perhaps few tiles around it and guide me through
>> sorting it out?
>>
>> I tried to validate it, but unlocked it again after correcting obvious
>> errors. Furthermore, I don't expect newbies to untangle it.
>>
>> I think I see clearly water streams crisscrossing here, mapped as
>> highways.
>>
>> What I see what should be corrected
>> NE corner: highway:residential, streams as highway:path or
>> highway:unclassified
>> SE corner: disconnected stream, should be continued from the east tile to
>> the south one
>> few paths probably mapped too enthusiastically, almost non-existent in
>> the imagery
>> disconnect in the highway classification but first has to be the
>> waterway/highway debate cleared
>> residential areas: IMHO, too many. I would map probably 3 or 4 at all -
>> small area NW, bigger area N to NE and one or two in the middle to the
>> south.
>> Anything else?
>>
>> Any tips how to map this part?
>>
>> There seems to be one way how to untangle the waterways - the stream in
>> the NW corner (id:450387995) should be split in the south, and both parts
>> are flowing to this point to the south there. And from there, it is one big
>> maze...
>>
>> In this project, there are several similar tasks. Till now, I have
>> chickened out every time, but it might be time to find my big girl breeches.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Majka
>>
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Re: [HOT] Anybody has time to handhold me through untangling a task?

2016-11-22 Thread Vao Matua
Majka,

The mapping in this area is comparable to other projects I've seen in
Tanzania.
Over-mapping residential areas and paths is kind of overkill, but
personally I don't think it hurts to have them mapped.
The bigger concern I have is buildings mapped as lines, that is something
that should be mentioned to the mappers so they don't continue that habit.
It is always good to remind new mappers about the Africa tagging guide.

Thank you for taking on validation of some of these tiles, it can be messy.

Regards,

Emmor
(Palolo)

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:22 PM, majka  wrote:

>
> Hello all. Not sure if this is the right place, but let's try it anyway.
>
> Could anybody find time to look at task http://tasks.hotosm.org/
> project/1788#task/91 and perhaps few tiles around it and guide me through
> sorting it out?
>
> I tried to validate it, but unlocked it again after correcting obvious
> errors. Furthermore, I don't expect newbies to untangle it.
>
> I think I see clearly water streams crisscrossing here, mapped as highways.
>
> What I see what should be corrected
> NE corner: highway:residential, streams as highway:path or
> highway:unclassified
> SE corner: disconnected stream, should be continued from the east tile to
> the south one
> few paths probably mapped too enthusiastically, almost non-existent in the
> imagery
> disconnect in the highway classification but first has to be the
> waterway/highway debate cleared
> residential areas: IMHO, too many. I would map probably 3 or 4 at all -
> small area NW, bigger area N to NE and one or two in the middle to the
> south.
> Anything else?
>
> Any tips how to map this part?
>
> There seems to be one way how to untangle the waterways - the stream in
> the NW corner (id:450387995) should be split in the south, and both parts
> are flowing to this point to the south there. And from there, it is one big
> maze...
>
> In this project, there are several similar tasks. Till now, I have
> chickened out every time, but it might be time to find my big girl breeches.
>
> Thanks,
> Majka
>
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Re: [HOT] Dealing with future growth: three recommendations to organisers (my SotM16 talk)

2016-11-22 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Martin,

Thank you very much for this email!

I have created github  issues for each item here:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues

Discussion is needed on the three items that I see as:

1 Connect newcomers to the existing community
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/895

2 Notification of emergent campaigns
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/894

3 Better management of TM Homepage during disasters
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/893

The community's insights and feedback on how best to do these three
things as you describe them in more detail than my headings would be
invaluable on this.

As I said, here on this email thread or on those github issue threads

How might we best connect newcomers to the existing community?
How might we best do notifications of emergent campaigns?
How might we better handle managing the TM front page during disasters?

Respectfully,
Blake





Blake Girardot
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
skype: jblakegirardot
HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org


On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Martin Dittus  wrote:
> Hallo all,
>
> I gave a talk at SotM in Brussels, summarising some of my key research 
> findings on HOT contributor engagement to date. Afterwards, Tyler asked me to 
> summarise my recommendations to organisers in a short message. I just saw 
> that the recording of the talk is already online, so I did a quick write-up 
> of some key points I wanted to make.
>
> A diary post with links to the recording and slides is here:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/39935
>
> In brief, I’d like to make three key recommendations:
> • Carefully manage the tasking manager task listing during large disaster 
> events. People who join during these events don't tend to stay active for 
> long, and their contributions tend to have a lower quality. Point them 
> towards newcomer-friendly projects where they can make some early experiences.
> • Introduce a notification mechanism to inform contributors of emergent 
> campaigns. While the mailing list may work for the core community, there is 
> likely a larger number of one-time mappers who may be willing to help out 
> again when they’re needed, but currently they have no means of finding out.
> • Try to connect newcomers to the existing community as soon as possible, and 
> in a setting that is appropriate for absolute beginners. Where can people ask 
> questions online? Is the mailing list still appropriate for absolute 
> beginners?
>
> Do these recommendations make sense to you?
> Do you have ideas about how to make them happen?
>
> (Note that I’m making the fundamental assumption that we’re trying to grow 
> the community. One could also make a case that the existing community is big 
> enough, and we simply need to refine the existing tools.)
>
> Greetings from London,
>
> m.
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