[HOT] Study: validation feedback can provide important social affirmation

[Martin Dittus]

After my talk at State of the Map in Brussels, Nick Allen asked: are newcomers 
more likely to be retained if we give them positive validation feedback? I had 
no answer at the time, but Tyler kindly gave me permission to look at the data 
to find out. The resulting findings are now under peer review, and I will share 
the full research once the process has concluded.

In the meantime, I just posted a diary entry with the key findings:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/40421

Do post a comment in case you have any questions. Or maybe you have made your 
own observations that can contribute to a better understanding of the impact of 
validation?

Greetings from London,

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Re: [HOT] Dealing with future growth: three recommendations to organisers (my SotM16 talk)

[Martin Dittus]

> On 24 Nov 2016, at 20:22, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM  
> wrote:
> 
>> In brief, I’d like to make three key recommendations:
>> • Carefully manage the tasking manager task listing during large disaster 
>> events. People who join during these events don't tend to stay active for 
>> long, and their contributions tend to have a lower quality. Point them 
>> towards newcomer-friendly projects where they can make some early 
>> experiences.
> 
> In the context of disaster response, an activation, how long should
> the early experience be? Is it ok if it is not a disaster related
> project, but a specific new mapper project, probably from missing
> maps? I would think we need a new mapped tailored part of the response
> mapping to direct new mappers too.

I don’t have a short answer for this, but my feeling is that it’s about initial 
training as much about providing a buffer for people who are just curious and 
want to click around a bit. Anything that redirects TV audiences to such an 
initial buffer is likely a win. Optimally, people who contribute well are then 
guided to further projects — for example as part of validator feedback.




> 
>> • Introduce a notification mechanism to inform contributors of emergent 
>> campaigns. While the mailing list may work for the core community, there is 
>> likely a larger number of one-time mappers who may be willing to help out 
>> again when they’re needed, but currently they have no means of finding out.
> 
> Yes, we have to make better use of email i think is what it comes down
> too. Really we need to engage with new mappers where they are, but the
> recurrent theme in many of these discussions is that email is best
> because OSM only or TM only contact solutions are missed by literally
> 1 day mappers. Emails seems the consensus, allow contributors to
> provide their email and opt-into some email messages from the Tasking
> Manager.

Yes, that sounds great. The existing HOT newsletter could be a low-effort means 
of starting something like this, e.g. by adding a paragraph on current 
initiatives to every email. (Tyler might likely appreciate if someone who’s 
plugged into community discourse could provide such paragraphs on short notice.)


> 
>> • Try to connect newcomers to the existing community as soon as possible, 
>> and in a setting that is appropriate for absolute beginners. Where can 
>> people ask questions online? Is the mailing list still appropriate for 
>> absolute beginners?
> 
> See the Live OSM mapper-support channel, that is a direct result of
> this suggestion and an attempt to accomplish the goal of connecting
> absolute beginners with the OSM community. (
> https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/ )

I love how quickly this came to be! Much impressed.


Looking forward to an exciting 2017,

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Re: [HOT] Impact of OSM/HOT in Humanitarian Aid / Economic Development

[Martin Dittus]

Have a look at the report by Timo Lüge I linked earlier, it may be exactly what 
you’re asking for: a wide-ranging evaluation of the MSF Ebola campaign, 
commissioned by the MSF, but published in a form that is useful to other 
organisations.

The link again:
http://reliefweb.int/report/liberia/gis-support-msf-ebola-response-liberia-guinea-and-sierra-leone-2015-case-study-2nd

m.


> On 9 Jun 2016, at 13:45, Laura O'Grady  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Based on my experience in order to measure this (in an outcome evaluation) 
> you would have to build steps into the project before you start (determine 
> the nature of the evaluation, establish which variables should be measured, 
> how they should be operationalized, etc.). 
> 
> Does MSF or UNAID not conduct their own program evaluations? Do they not need 
> such metrics for their own purposes (e.g. funding, accountability)? Perhaps 
> they do but these documents are white papers and for internal use only.
> 
> Laura
> 
> Laura O'Grady
> la...@lauraogrady.ca
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:24 AM, se...@posteo.de wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> you're right, it's difficult to evaluate the impact since the data can be 
>> used afterwards in so many different ways. But what I'm interested in is the 
>> initial phase, like e.g. if MSF or USAID are implementing mapping activities 
>> together with HOT, what is the outcome of these projects? For what are they 
>> using the data excatly, how do they implement it in their workflow and so on.
>> 
>> To evaluate the education side of the local contributers would be also kinda 
>> interesting to see
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Stefan (seike_)
>> 
>> Am 09.06.2016 00:00 schrieb john whelan:
>>> I think part of the problem for this is the multiple uses made of OSM
>>> maps. They might be mapped by one group but used by another and some
>>> charities using them are very small and how would you measure this?
>>> Including the education side of having locals contribute to the map?
>>> Cheerio John
 On 8 Jun 2016 5:18 p.m., "Stefan Eikenbusch"  wrote:
 Hello HOT-Community
 I’m wondering if there are any papers dealing with the evaluation
 of using Open Data (especially OSM) for humanitarian aid, DRR and/or
 economic development?
 Are there any plans to evaluate HOT-Activations like e.g. in Nepal,
 Ecuador, etc. and it’s impact on the local work for humanitarian
 aid workers? I think this could be kinda interesting also for new
 mappers to know how the data is being used.
 Greetings,
 Stefan (seike_)
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Re: [HOT] Impact of OSM/HOT in Humanitarian Aid / Economic Development

[Martin Dittus]

A great list!

I would further add the 2014/2015 report by Timo Lüge on the use of GIS 
technologies in Ebola response and humanitarian efforts, it includes some 
discussion of OSM and HOT, and how it relates to field work. Here’s the second 
edition:
http://reliefweb.int/report/liberia/gis-support-msf-ebola-response-liberia-guinea-and-sierra-leone-2015-case-study-2nd

And a paper by Abdul Shahid, “The Impact of Crowdsourcing on Organisational 
Practices: The Case of Crowdmapping” — although that’s less focused on field 
work and more on general coordination practice.
http://aisel.aisnet.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1165=ecis2015_cr

Generally I think there’s still a knowledge gap once the work touches the 
field, not just in research but also in practice. In part because currently 
there’s no good feedback loop: it still takes a long time for experiences and 
stories to come back to coordinators. I’m told people love the paper maps, but 
they don’t necessarily report back.

m.


> On 8 Jun 2016, at 23:51, Laura O'Grady  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> I’m currently writing a paper on OpenStreetMap and its application in Ebola 
> epidemics so I’ve recently been reading literature in the area of 
> crowdsourced or volunteered geographic information (VGI), OpenStreetMap and 
> disease mapping. 
> 
> I would divide your question into two parts: (1). papers that access the 
> efficacy of VGI via OSM and (2). efforts to combat Ebola outbreaks using 
> disease mapping. To that end I provide the following list of resources.
> 
> (1). These papers that assess the accuracy of OpenStreetMap as a form of 
> crowdsourced (or VGI) data:
> 
> Ciepłuch, B., Jacob, R., Mooney, P., & Winstanley, A. (2010, July). 
> Comparison of the accuracy of OpenStreetMap for Ireland with Google Maps and 
> Bing Maps. In Proceedings of the Ninth International Symposium on Spatial 
> Accuracy Assessment in Natural Resources and Environmental Sciences 20-23rd 
> July 2010 (p. 337). University of Leicester.
> 
> Haklay, M., & Weber, P. (2008). Openstreetmap: User-generated street maps. 
> Pervasive Computing, IEEE, 7(4), 12-18.
> 
> Helbich, M., Amelunxen, C., Neis, P., & Zipf, A. (2012). Comparative spatial 
> analysis of positional accuracy of OpenStreetMap and proprietary geodata. 
> Proceedings of GI_Forum.
> 
> (2). And here are some others on Ebola outbreaks. In some cases these 
> citations will lead to others that are more generally about humanitarian aid. 
> Note that the Koch papers make reference to OSM specifically.
> 
> Casillas, A. M., Nyamathi, A. M., Sosa, A., Wilder, C. L., & Sands, H. 
> (2003). A current review of Ebola virus: pathogenesis, clinical presentation, 
> and diagnostic assessment. Biological research for nursing, 4(4), 268-275.
> 
> Dhillon, R. S., Srikrishna, D., & Sachs, J. (2014). Controlling Ebola: next 
> steps. The Lancet, 384(9952), 1409-1411.
> 
> Koch, T. (2015). Mapping Medical Disasters: Ebola Makes Old Lessons, New. 
> Disaster medicine and public health preparedness, 9(01), 66-73.
> 
> Koch, T. (2016). Ebola in West Africa: lessons we may have learned. 
> International journal of epidemiology, dyv324.
> 
> Tambo, E., Ugwu, E. C., & Ngogang, J. Y. (2014). Need of surveillance 
> response systems to combat Ebola outbreaks and other emerging infectious 
> diseases in African countries. Infectious diseases of poverty, 3(1), 1-8.
> 
> Zollman, L. (no date). "Ebola Missions with WHO." Retrieved from 
> http://www.giscorps.org/index.php?option=com_content=view=169=63
>  on May 21, 2016.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Laura
> 
> Laura O'Grady, PhD
> la...@lauraogrady.ca
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Eikenbusch [mailto:se...@posteo.de] 
> Sent: June-08-16 5:16 PM
> To: HOT List 
> Subject: [HOT] Impact of OSM/HOT in Humanitarian Aid / Economic Development
> 
> Hello HOT-Community
> 
> I�m wondering if there are any papers dealing with the evaluation of using 
> Open Data (especially OSM) for humanitarian aid, DRR and/or economic 
> development? 
> 
> Are there any plans to evaluate HOT-Activations like e.g. in Nepal, Ecuador, 
> etc. and it�s impact on the local work for humanitarian aid workers? I think 
> this could be kinda interesting also for new mappers to know how the data is 
> being used.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Stefan (seike_)
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager - Release candidate

[Martin Dittus]

"Message can now be sent to all the contributors of a project” Oooh that’s a 
very interesting feature. 

The associated ticket has some discussion of potential uses:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/719

The key items are probably:
- to thank people
- to let them know of changes to instructions
- to let them know of new but related projects
- to send feedback on how their contribution was used <- (maybe my favourite)

Was also a delight to follow the developer/maintainer workflow that made this 
happen… issue, pull request, discussion, amendment, final review, merge. Very 
well done!
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/pull/768

m.


> On 3 Jun 2016, at 09:42, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
> 
> Dear hotties,
> 
> A new release (2.13.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed
> earlier today **on the dev instance**.
> 
> http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/
> 
> Here are the release notes :
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.0
> 
> We're looking for people willing to test.
> 
> If you encounter issues please report them using github.
> 
> Also some languages still have not translated strings.
> 
> Kind regards.
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Re: [HOT] missing maps badge account

[Martin Dittus]

I think that happens for people who haven’t mapped yet _after_ the tool was 
released — it should probably show an explanation & a call to action (“go here 
to start mapping”), but instead it simply throws a javascript error (check your 
console).

m.


> On 8 May 2016, at 12:07, pia conrad mortensen  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I've tried to open my bagde accont, but nothing appears - just loading.
> What's gone wrong.  ( -and I'm not better than I'm really curious about it.)
> Hope you have a nice everybody.   /piaco_dk
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Re: [HOT] OSM Analytics - your awesome map stories... visualized!

[Martin Dittus]

I’ve been playing with it today, and had a look at the front- and backend 
codebase, and I’m very impressed — it exceeds my expectations of what I thought 
possible for this tight timeframe! 

A testament to HOT's participatory approach to project management; at every 
step pulling in the right experts, and allowing them to shape the project. And 
a testament to the maturity of the OSM tech ecosystem; quite a few existing 
components and frameworks were incorporated to make this happen.

Congratulations to all involved!

m.



> On 28 Apr 2016, at 19:09, Heather Leson  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations!
> 
> Heather
> 
> On 28 Apr 2016 20:41, "Cristiano Giovando"  
> wrote:
> Dear HOTties,
> 
> Today we are officially launching OSM Analytics [0], a project built
> by Martin Raifer [1], HOT and partners, thanks to a grant that we
> received from the Knight Foundation [2].
> 
> Here's a blog post that I just published with more details about the project:
> 
> https://hotosm.org/updates/2016-04-28_explore_how_the_world_is_mapped_with_osm_analytics
> 
> Please explore it and start digging into visualizations of OSM data.
> You can clearly see the impact of HOT activations, both spatially and
> temporally. There are some great mapping stories that you can tell
> using OSM Analytics ;-)
> 
> We will continue to extend this platform further with more data layers
> and tools. If you are a developer and want to join us, we look forward
> to your pull requests [3].
> 
> If you just like OSM Analytics and want to propose more functions,
> ideas, or find any bugs, please submit an issue here [4].
> 
> Lastly - as some of you may remember - a few weeks ago I asked the HOT
> community for project name ideas [5]. After reviewing all your
> creative entries, we decided that OSM Analytics was simple and
> straight forward... so the fancy HOT coffee mug prize goes to Marc!
> 
> Happy mapping, and we look forward to many OSM / awesome map stories!
> 
> Cristiano
> 
> [0] http://osm-analytics.org/
> [1] https://github.com/tyrasd
> [2] http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201551652/
> [3] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-analytics
> [4] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-analytics/issues
> [5] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2016-April/011471.html
> 
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Re: [HOT] Error while running script ./env/bin/initialize_osmtm_db

[Martin Dittus]

This has to do with the way permissions are set up in your PostgreSQL database: 
the database user you’re using to connect to the database does not have the 
permissions necessary to update PostGIS tables.

Try this in the PostgreSQL console:
GRANT select, insert, update, delete ON spatial_ref_sys to 
;

… substituting the actual username you’re connecting with for 
"”.

It’s likely that you will have to do this for the geometry_columns table as 
well, maybe others.

m.



> On 25 Mar 2016, at 20:15, Saikat Basu  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> While trying to install the OSM Task Manager, I followed all the steps 
> mentioned in the wiki. However, while trying to initialize the database using 
> the script provided in the wiki,
> ./env/bin/initialize_osmtm_db
> 
> I got the error:
> 
> sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (ProgrammingError) permission denied for 
> relation spatial_ref_sys
> 
> CONTEXT:  SQL statement "SELECT proj4text FROM spatial_ref_sys WHERE srid = 
> 4326 LIMIT 1"
> 
> 
>  'SELECT 
> ST_AsBinary(ST_Transform(ST_SetSRID(ST_Multi(ST_GeomFromWKB(%(ST_GeomFromWKB_1)s,
>  %(ST_GeomFromWKB_2)s)), %(param_1)s), %(param_2)s)) AS "ST_Transform_1"' 
> {'ST_GeomFromWKB_1':  0x2f36fb0>, 'param_2': 3857, 'param_1': 4326, 'ST_GeomFromWKB_2': 4326}
> 
> Can anyone please help me figure out the problem? Thanks.
> 
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Re: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649

[Martin Dittus]

It seems to me there are really three separate concerns here.

1. Resuming Martin’s project. Russ addresses this.


2. OSM data quality discussions around HOT newcomers. That’s a big topic and an 
ongoing discussion, and is maybe best discussed in the places Russ mentions. 
Any such incident is probably best be referred to such a forum, however HOT 
members should be active participants in such discussions, so Martin please 
share links if you post to one of the OSM lists. 

It may also be a good time to review data quality concerns that have been 
raised, and find some kind of consensus approach to dealing with them. For 
example a “best practices” doc for HOT coordinators (which may already exist). 
This will then help have such a discussion.


3. Dealing with uncooperative contributors. Without knowing the details, it 
seems to me that this individual has decided to take matters in their own hand 
and disrupt an existing process. While their intentions may come from a good 
place, their acts are hardly constructive. I'm concerned that this issue might 
not simply go away. Furthermore, it may also spill over into other projects.

As a community member I think this action was transgressive to a point where it 
warrants a slightly more formal response; for example a polite email by a HOT 
organiser with an invitation for dialogue, and a request to stop. I also don’t 
think Martin should be tasked to deal with the issue by himself; it seems he 
hardly caused the conflict, he merely happened to coordinate the project, which 
is one among many. 

An idle thought — can project owners currently block certain users from using 
the Tasking Manager? Would it make sense to do so? Such a block would be easily 
bypassed, and might stoke the flames rather than stop the issue.

(Martin, you’re welcome to contact me off-list if you want support for any of 
this, however I should also say I’m not formally a HOT member.)

m.



> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:20, Russell Deffner  wrote:
> 
> P.S. Martin,
> 
> The Activation WG does not handle 'edit conflicts' or really any conflicts as 
> we have plenty of those internally for coordinating HOT stuff.  You also 
> started with 'Dear OSM community' - just to clarify - this list is the 'HOT 
> community'; to address the larger/general OSM community you would want to 
> email t...@openstreetmap.org - and if you do need 'intervention' with another 
> mapper, that's the OSMF Data WG 
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group) 
> 
> Happy Mapping! (let me know if you need help 'resetting'/invalidating all 
> tiles in 1649)
> =Russ
> 
> Russell Deffner
> russell.deff...@hotosm.org
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
> http://hotosm.org
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:04 AM
> To: 'Martin Noblecourt'; 'hot@openstreetmap.org'
> Subject: RE: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649
> 
> Hi, Just a quick note - you can now 'invalidate all tiles' from the misc tab 
> as a Project Manager; so no need to re-create.
> 
> Also this user http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rab - although they have a 
> long OSM history, I wouldn't call them 'expert' as they still don't use 
> changeset comments correctly after 8 years :)
> 
> =Russ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Noblecourt [mailto:m_nobleco...@cartong.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:51 AM
> To: hot@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [HOT] Issue with Harare project - 1649
> 
> Dear OSM community,
> 
> I'd like to get your feedback about what happened on the following 
> project: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1649
> 
> This project have been marked as completely done by one single mapper 
> without tracing, under the argument new mappers would damage existing 
> data. The area is indeed already well mapped but also a lot of data is 
> still missing (including rivers, roads and buildings) and it is pretty 
> easy to trace so I doubt the project will damage the area (unless 
> contribution to OSM is now reserved to "experts").
> Another argument we received was that some of our previous Missing maps 
> projects (such as 1465/1466) were a "complete quality disaster"... 
> Although still unfinished and requiring an important work of validation 
> (like all TM projects...), we strongly disagree that these projects were 
> a disaster: they allowed mapping large areas that weren't mapped 
> previously at all - which is in fact the goal of Missing Maps...
> The road network in particular still requires work of 
> standardization/clean up, but this is quite common on TM activities too 
> (getting mappers, whether they are new ones or experienced but not used 
> to the African context, to properly tag roads, is a long-term 
> challenge). Starting from scratch mapping of an area is as everyone know 
> a work that often requires several steps.
> 
> We intend to recreate the same project on the TM as 

Re: [HOT] HOT Board Minutes - December 2015 and January 2016

[Martin Dittus]

As someone who has sat on the board of a large community organisation (>1,000 
members) I accept that some concerns are not suitable for wide distribution. 
For example, if the board is asked to deal with a dispute among community 
members, then the matter should be discussed in confidence unless explicitly 
requested by all parties. (I have no idea what this section in the minutes was 
actually referring to.)

m.




> On 26 Jan 2016, at 20:06, Rod Bera  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jorieke,
> 
> this is not personal, as this practice dates back from days you weren't
> in office yet, not even a member.
> 
> But I have to say once again I have a serious problem with this kind of
> item:
> 
> "
> 
> 3. [Not for Public Release]
> 
> PRESENTING: ​Dale
> 
> ACTION: Vote
> 
> NOTES:
> 
> We discussed and voted on the matter. The item was approved.This item
> was to be shared with the Membership Chair.
> 
> "
> 
> An example of the secrecy I believe is detrimental to HOT in terms of
> trust, transparency, accountability, democracy. This isn't new in HOT
> matters but is to new members.
> 
> Note: I agree there could be some stuff not for public release, but this
> should not hold for members. If this was subsequently brought to
> members' knowledge could we add a reference to the actual documents (and
> access this document)? Or are the members denied information on this
> "item 3"?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rod
> 
> On 22/01/16 20:29, Jorieke Vyncke wrote:
>> Hello hotties,
>> 
>> Sharing the board minutes of our December 2015 and January 2016
>> meetings with you.
>> 
>> Informal discussion December 9:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4bnB6bk15dzdqN0U
>> 
>> Board meeting December 23:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4NWZ2R1Y2WHRGRlE
>> 
>> Board meeting January 6:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4azV1VUE3b01QOUU
>> 
>> Board meeting January 20:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B65TOMtm9My4Sk9lRGMweFJFX1k
>> 
>> Questions are like always welcome!
>> 
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>> 
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[HOT] Sustainable online communities foster social identity

[Martin Dittus]

A quick diary post articulating a growing intuition, rather than a well-formed 
concept. Maybe a useful provocation to start a discussion? :)

What is it that our volunteers get out of the act of mapping? Wikipedia has 
direct utility to its contributors, while our maps tend to benefit others. Many 
of our contributors are likely motivated by secondary benefits: it relates to 
their personal or professional interests, it allows then to hear and tell 
stories, to spend time supporting good social causes. In other words, it allows 
them to forming and performing social identities — to express who they are, 
what they believe in, and what they can achieve. 

Most of our online platforms however are focused on work, not social 
experiences. 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/37438

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Re: [HOT] Stats: distribution of locales (languages) among HOT contributors (and more)

[Martin Dittus]

Ilya/Zverik has just amended the spreadsheet to also show translation progress 
for each locale:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1udAGLSE88ob6OS5x1brf11JwDicIblW8LGVsxkG_0ww/edit?usp=sharing

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> On 9 Nov 2015, at 18:19, Martin Dittus <mar...@dekstop.de> wrote:
> 
> Inspired by recent Transifex discussions I though it’d be interesting to see 
> what languages our contributors actually speak — to the extent that we can 
> easily find out. 
> 
> See the top entries here, incl spreadsheet for the full listing:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36287
> 
> 
> And if you’ve missed last week’s posts then check those out too :)
> 
> "Unknown Pleasures (of humanitarian mapping)” — a data visualisation.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36253
> 
> "Quantifying HOT participation inequality: it's complicated.” — comparing 
> misc HOT initiatives.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36184
> 
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[HOT] Stats: distribution of locales (languages) among HOT contributors (and more)

[Martin Dittus]

Inspired by recent Transifex discussions I though it’d be interesting to see 
what languages our contributors actually speak — to the extent that we can 
easily find out. 

See the top entries here, incl spreadsheet for the full listing:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36287


And if you’ve missed last week’s posts then check those out too :)

"Unknown Pleasures (of humanitarian mapping)” — a data visualisation.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36253

"Quantifying HOT participation inequality: it's complicated.” — comparing misc 
HOT initiatives.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/36184

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Re: [HOT] Community Working Group kickoff and call for members

[Martin Dittus]

Count me in, I’m up for it as well!

m.

> On 17 Oct 2015, at 10:39, Justin Temwani Ng'ambi  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir,
> I totally subscribe to that. I would really be happy to contribute my ideas 
> to the wider community.
> 
> Waiting to discuss this in length at a group level for the sake of progress
> 
> Regards,
> Justin Ng'ambi.
> 
> On Oct 16, 2015 2:27 PM, "Geoffrey Kateregga"  
> wrote:
> Hi Blake,
> 
> Please count me in, I am part of the community and I think I have something 
> to contribute as well.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Blake Girardot  
> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> We still need for community members to join the community working group.
> 
> If you even considered it and thought "oh they do not need me." or "I
> do not know what I could contribute" now is the time to reply to me
> and jump in!
> 
> Lets do this! We need YOU, I am not kidding!
> 
> As Heather is fond of saying: "Let's all be awesome together!"
> 
> Cheers,
> Blake
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Blake Girardot
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Community Working Group is going to start have regular projects
> > and meetings and we need you :)
> >
> > This group is going to be working on ways of building our community
> > and will need people who are good at creative fun things to help grow
> > and strengthen the HOT community.
> >
> > I t will also focus on ways of working with partner communities to
> > strengthen our community integration and help support their missions.
> >
> > I imagine it will work closely with the Training WG and the
> > Communications WG to accomplish everyone's goals as well.
> >
> > The working group will follow the typical HOT WG format and be led by
> > two community Co-Chairs. There will also be one Board Member working
> > in the group as well to help with projects and keep the board updated
> > on activities.
> >
> > Everyone has something to contribute to this group because everyone is
> > a member of the HOT community. Besides there will be stickers and
> > badges how can you say no? We need people with a wide diversity of
> > skills (especially language skills) so if you are looking for a good
> > way to build  your real world experience building online communities
> > this is a great opportunity.
> >
> > And I mean real opportunity as HOT's President, Heather Leson will be
> > very involved as the Board member working with the group.
> >
> > If you have not met our President yet, Heather is a pioneer in
> > creating and building this new phenomenon of Digital Humanitarians, a
> > leader in building on line communities and is a sought after speaker
> > at Humanitarian conferences around the world for her expertise and
> > insights into online humanitarian work. Working with her on this is
> > going to be an amazing experience.
> >
> > So if you are at all interested, please contact me as I am helping get
> > it kicked off, and we can talk about it at length. Especially if you
> > have the desire and the capacity for a slightly higher time commitment
> > to be a Co-Chair :)
> >
> > I look forward to speaking with you all more as part of the Community WG !
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Blake
> >
> > --
> > 
> > Blake Girardot
> > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> > Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
> > skype: jblakegirardot
> 
> 
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[HOT] Missing Maps: the first year in stats and charts

[Martin Dittus]

I put together some slides for the Missing Maps powwow that’s happening in 
Toronto atm, just put it online here:
http://talks.dekstop.de/Martin%20Dittus%20MM%20powwow%2020151015.pdf

There’s now a long backlog of stuff for me to write about, haven’t found time 
for diary posts in a few weeks, but in the meantime these slides can maybe fill 
some of that gap.

Feel free to ask questions or send requests, I made an effort to annotate the 
slides but I’m sure there are still some places where a bit more context may be 
useful.

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Re: [HOT] Validation

[Martin Dittus]

A further consideration: the terms should express a sense of _why_ we’re asking 
people to press these buttons. The technical “check in/out” hints at this, 
although it is likely not universally understood, and might not easily 
translate.

Do we explain our coordination workflow anywhere? If we have some confidence 
that people have seen that explanation before they are asked to “start”, then 
button labelling will become more straightforward. There’s less burden on the 
button to explain a fundamental workflow in 2-3 words.

It could be as simple as adding a sentence above the buttons.

Although 2-3 words that label the button *and* explain the process at the same 
time would of course be the most elegant option :)

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 On 30 Aug 2015, at 12:06, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Also please remember that the tool is translated in other languages.
 On my side, I don't know how to translate check in/out in french. It
 depends on the situation. When I'm at the airport checking in
 luggages, or at a hotel checking in to get my room's keys, I won't use
 the same words.
 
 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:52 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:
 check in /out might be considered a regional dialect, you have to consider
 the audience and their level of English, I think keep it as simple and as
 clear as possible.
 
 Cheerio John
 
 On 29 August 2015 at 20:15, Denis Carriere carriere.de...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm liking check in  check out, I feel terminology is more commonly
 used.
 
 Also ethically the words start work doesn't look as good as button vs.
 check in.
 
 My personal opinion, +1 on check in  check out
 
 ~~
 Denis Carriere
 GIS Project Manager
 Twitter: @DenisCarriere
 OSM: DenisCarriere
 Email: carriere.de...@gmail.com
 
 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote:
 
 Would 'start work' and 'stop work' be clear to all people?
 
 Suzan
 Sent from my phone. Please forgive errors.
 
 
 
 On August 29, 2015 11:46:55 AM Jarmo Kivekäs jarmo.kive...@guttula.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 There has been some related discussion in a github issue[1] about this
 last October.
 
 I rather like the Stop working on task alternative that is suggested
 instead of the Unlock button in that issue. Especially since currently
 the button to lock a task says Start mapping. There is more obvious
 connection between start/stop than start/unlock.
 
 Checking in and checking out content is probably a strange concept to
 many. I don't think it's an improvement over locking and unlocking.
 
 Submit for review is a definitive improvement over Mark as done. It
 should be implemented.
 
 I've played around a little and made the changes I like the best in a
 local copy of the tasking manager (screenshot in attachment). I'll
 implement the changes and make a pull request if we come to an
 agreement.
 
 -- jarmo
 
 [1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/401
 
 On 29.08.2015 05:22, Jim Smith wrote:
 
 I like the idea of renaming the 'mark as done' button to 'submit for
 review'. Little tweaks like that can bring clarity to those starting out.
 Also Suzan suggested that the “lock” “unlock” function be renamed to 
 “Check
 out” and “check in. That would make a big difference as well.
 
 I don't want to be too overenthusiastic  but is there any reason not to
 make those two improvements? If no objection, can they be done soon?
 
 Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Dittus [mailto:mar...@dekstop.de]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:44 AM
 To: David Toy d...@vidtoy.co.uk
 Cc: hot hot@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [HOT] Validation
 
 As I’m going through the comments again (here and on my diary post) I’m
 starting to realise how important it is to give feedback to newcomers.
 Without it, few people will ever feel confident about their 
 contributions.
 
 In many cases it probably doesn’t even need to be feedback from an
 expert — it could be a comment from someone with similar experience 
 levels.
 A second pair of eyes.
 
 An important part of this is being able to ask someone for a second
 opinion. At a mapathon that’s easy, but where do remote mappers go?
 
 m.
 
 
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 19:00, David Toy d...@vidtoy.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi Jarmo. Welcome!
 
 My introduction/onboarding to HOT was almost identical to Jarmo's -
 and I can relate very clearly to all the points he has raised. I suspect
 that there are a few more lurkers on this list who will be similar.
 
 Pierre G's document suggests renaming the 'mark as done' button to
 'submit for review'.
 
 A simplification of terms / altered workflow would have helped me
 initially. Taking the example of the done button, 'submit for review'
 implies that:
 - a) it's ok to make a mistake getting started - someone will catch
 it, and
 - b) I should expect feedback
 
 This helps with Jarmo's first and second scenarios, but also softens
 the blow when (your first) task is coldly invalidated with only four
 words

Re: [HOT] Validation

[Martin Dittus]

As I’m going through the comments again (here and on my diary post) I’m 
starting to realise how important it is to give feedback to newcomers. Without 
it, few people will ever feel confident about their contributions.

In many cases it probably doesn’t even need to be feedback from an expert — it 
could be a comment from someone with similar experience levels. A second pair 
of eyes.

An important part of this is being able to ask someone for a second opinion. At 
a mapathon that’s easy, but where do remote mappers go?

m.


 On 24 Aug 2015, at 19:00, David Toy d...@vidtoy.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi Jarmo. Welcome!
 
 My introduction/onboarding to HOT was almost identical to Jarmo's - and I can 
 relate very clearly to all the points he has raised. I suspect that there are 
 a few more lurkers on this list who will be similar.
 
 Pierre G's document suggests renaming the 'mark as done' button to 'submit 
 for review'.
 
 A simplification of terms / altered workflow would have helped me initially. 
 Taking the example of the done button, 'submit for review' implies that:
 - a) it's ok to make a mistake getting started - someone will catch it, and
 - b) I should expect feedback
 
 This helps with Jarmo's first and second scenarios, but also softens the blow 
 when (your first) task is coldly invalidated with only four words of 
 explanation. (Validators: that's not a criticism - I understand the time 
 pressure.)
 
 Also, not all users will read the docs - while training resources are useful, 
 these little nudges of understanding help all users - even the new ones who 
 enthusiastically started but didn't read the instructions.
 
 David
 
 On 24 August 2015 at 17:18, Jarmo Kivekäs jarmo.kive...@guttula.com wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've been lurking on the mailing list for a while, but I'm still fairly
 new to HOT. I though I'd pitch in.
 
 I definitely recognized myself from Martin's write up as belonging to
 the set of contributors who commit changes but don't mark tiles as done.
 Below are some reasons why I've not marked tiles as complete in the past.
 
 1. I think part of the reason is that I started out mapping on my own (I
 haven't found a local community, nor was I introduced to mapping on a
 mapathon). Therefore I haven't been able to just quickly ask someone
 advice about something I'm unsure about. In these cases I've usually
 left a comment in the tasking manager about whatever I was unsure about,
 mapped the rest, but not marked the tile as done.
 
 Not marking the tile done is me being conservative, I guess. As a new
 mapper it is currently difficult to get feedback on the quality of your
 mapping, you pretty much needs to actively seek it out. Getting
 notifications when there are new comments on tiles you've worked on
 would be nice.
 
 2. When parts of a region are already mapped (probably form before the
 activation was created) but the tiles that are already mapped are not
 marked as done. I'm reluctant to mark a grid as done without making any
 changes to it, even if it seemingly fills all the criterion for the
 task. Especially when the grid has been locked my multiple users in the
 past. They didn't think it was as done, I'm probably missing
 something. I realize that this thinking only propagates the problem,
 since I'll just be one more user on the list.
 
 3. Grids can be pretty large. Sometimes you just don't manage to map it
 completely in a short sitting. I know grids can be split, but...
 
 4. Sometimes I'll for example only be mapping roads. Doing this will
 result in many tiles being checked out and changesets are generated, but
 no tiles are actually being finished.
 
 
 -- Jarmo
 
 
 On 24.08.2015 16:37, Martin Dittus wrote:
 
  On 24 Aug 2015, at 11:22, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'd also like to see a third option on the tasking manger I've done some 
  work but not completed the tile could someone review it please.  I'd 
  rather catch errors early and some new mappers may not feel confident 
  enough to mark a tile complete.
 
  Considering better workflows for “incomplete” submissions is well 
  worthwhile. This week I found that about half of all HOT contributors never 
  mark their first task as “done” although they contributed edits to the map.
 
  I’ve written it up here, with stats and a brief discussion:
  https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35649
 
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Re: [HOT] Validation

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 On 24 Aug 2015, at 11:22, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd also like to see a third option on the tasking manger I've done some 
 work but not completed the tile could someone review it please.  I'd rather 
 catch errors early and some new mappers may not feel confident enough to mark 
 a tile complete.

Considering better workflows for “incomplete” submissions is well worthwhile. 
This week I found that about half of all HOT contributors never mark their 
first task as “done” although they contributed edits to the map. 

I’ve written it up here, with stats and a brief discussion:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35649

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Re: [HOT] Knight Prototype Fund Brainstorm

[Martin Dittus]

I finally found some time to write up a more detailed description as an OSM 
diary post:

Design proposal for a HOT quality assurance support tool
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35620

I hope this can stimulate some debate about what a good QA support tool might 
look like. In particular we would love to hear from validators, and from 
existing users of HOT data. What specific data quality concerns arise in 
practice?

m.


 On 17 Aug 2015, at 16:39, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 The result of this brainstorming session is HOT's completed application to 
 the Knight Foundation Prototyping August 2015 Round which we now have up for 
 review and comment by interested individuals:
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aE4Rk0D7QUpbrsVo3QHNDGNKDh8rUW5kKJo4TZ2pw80
 
 This application has to be submitted in the next 12 hours so review time and 
 comments are a bit limited by that deadline, but we wanted to share it with 
 everyone for a number of reasons.
 
 Everyone should be able to make comments and suggestions through the 
 google docs interface even if you do not have a gmail or google account.
 
 Cheers,
 Blake
 
 On 8/11/2015 7:06 PM, Russell Deffner wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Sorry for the short notice as this slipped past our radar when first
 announced, but we have a couple great ideas already being tossed around
 for the next Knight Prototype Fund
 http://www.knightfoundation.org/funding-initiatives/knight-prototype-fund/.
 This round is focused on “projects that explore media, journalism, civic
 experience, and data/information needs.”
 
 Therefore, we welcome you to join a brainstorm/drafting meeting tomorrow
 12 August at 1900 UTC on the #hot IRC channel.  The working group
 calendar seemed like the best place to put this (i.e. mini-fundraising
 wg meeting), so it is also there:
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=hotosm.org_848e89aaiab04ag94d23rqn558%40group.calendar.google.com
 
 Hope to ‘see’ you there,
 
 =Russ
 
 P.S. I don’t have a google doc set-up or anything yet, but will try to
 have that before the meeting starts unless someone beats me to it.
 
 Russell Deffner
 
 russell.deff...@hotosm.org mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org
 
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[HOT] Quick study: initial activity and retention of first-time HOT contributors

[Martin Dittus]

Hallo all, 

I’d like to share a link to an OSM diary entry where I summarise part of a HOT 
study I did earlier this year. 

I was interested in understanding how first-time contributors engage with HOT: 
how many hours of work do they contribute in the first days, and how long do 
they keep contributing to HOT once they joined? I’m comparing three 
initiatives: mapping for typhoon Haiyan/Yolanda in Nov 2013, the Ebola response 
throughout 2014, and initial months of Missing Maps after November 2014.

The post with detailed results is here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35271

And here’s some background on my work:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35169

Will keep posting more of these diary entries as the year progresses, and will 
make sure to share bigger findings here and on Twitter.

Feedback and suggestions are appreciated, here or in the comments! 

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Re: [HOT] HOT Board Minutes - May 2015

[Martin Dittus]

Many thanks for these updates! Very interesting to see the progress you’re all 
making.

Unfortunately the last link to Tyler’s document (below) only gives me a “file 
not found” error — could someone send an updated link? I’d love to see the list 
of key initiatives.

 On 5 Jun 2015, at 10:00, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@hotosm.org wrote:
 
 -The last big topic was an update of Tyler on HOT's projects. An
 overview you can find back in the meeting minutes, but by clicking on
 this link you can find back a schematic overview of our projects and
 staffers : 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0XiPXWA3naN0xQYjJzUW9zZ00/view?usp=sharing

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Re: [HOT] Level of user experience to focus on

[Martin Dittus]

 On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:29, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote:
 
 It is my personal opinion that the level of expertise is less important then 
 the motivation for people to participate and their abbility to adapt. As an 
 example; What is better, a geospatial expert that is conceited or even cocky 
 or a new mapper that has a lot of time and is eager to learn?

As a random data point, based on my review of contribution data:
- during Haiyan/Yolanda, 30% of the contributors had no prior OSM edits before 
their first HOT edit
- Ebola response: 50%
- Missing Maps projects (since November): 75%.

I think it’s safe to assume that as HOT grows even further this number will 
remain high, particularly for high-profile initiatives. For many contributors, 
HOT will be the entry-point for OSM mapping: they don’t necessarily come 
because they want to map, they come because they want to help out.

However there’s certainly a discussion to be had about where these newcomers 
should best be routed in the very beginning. Lots of great ideas in this thread!

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[HOT] What are key HOT community groups/initiatives?

[Martin Dittus]

Hallo all,

As some of you already know in the last months I’ve been looking at HOT 
community engagement, particularly at the key initiatives that organise HOT 
mapping projects through the tasking manager. I want to understand better how 
to build volunteer capacity, and how to then sustain it; in terms of online 
mapping activity, but also offline mapping parties and other forms of 
organisation.

Here is the talk I gave at the HOT Summit: “A large-scale study of Contributor 
Engagement in Humanitarian Mapping
http://talks.dekstop.de/Martin%20Dittus%20%23hotsummit%2020150502.pdf

And here’s a visualisation I made yesterday that tracks contribution timelines 
of key initiatives:
https://twitter.com/dekstop/status/597047599598870528

This is partially about understanding the main activities that have substantial 
organisational support behind them (Haiyan, Ebola activation, Nepal, Missing 
Maps), but I’m also interested in looking beyond that and identifying other 
emerging initiatives within the community. MapLesotho is a great example of 
this: they started out of a personal interest but came incredibly far. Dave 
Corley also just mentioned that the Peace Corps is another group worth looking 
at.

What other initiatives are there?

Specifically:
- groups that organise their work through the tasking manager
- where their outputs end up on OSM

Thanks!

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Re: [HOT] Most active HOT projects since March 2014

[Martin Dittus]

 On 23 Mar 2015, at 20:35, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 
 The number of changesets is also a gross estimate of the contributor efforts. 
 How to compare a contributor that adds 100 buildings, one changeset for each 
 (we see this often with new contributors) with a contributor that has a few 
 thousands objects in one edit.


To address this I just added one additional tab to the spreadsheet — HOT 
projects ranked by the number of changes made to the map. (This corresponds to 
the “num_changes” measure in OSM changeset stats.)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12TjMDsgPoEQadiUWbpKjotTMYKPo5NY4W7EDipHnE7Y/edit?usp=sharing

#MapLesotho (project 599) at the top, with a wide margin...

Thanks again for the feedback!

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Re: [HOT] Quick question - HOT and Haiti story

[Martin Dittus]

Two classic papers on the topic:

Soden, R. and Palen, L. (2014). From Crowdsourced Mapping to Community 
Mapping: The Post-Earthquake Work of OpenStreetMap Haiti.”
https://www.cs.colorado.edu/~palen/Papers/HaitiCOOP_Final.pdf

Zook et al (2010), “Volunteered geographic information and crowdsourcing 
disaster relief: a case study of the Haitian earthquake”
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matthew_Zook/publication/239324066_Volunteered_Geographic_Information_and_Crowdsourcing_Disaster_Relief_A_Case_Study_of_the_Haitian_Earthquake/links/0f31752ef9ede4411c00.pdf

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 On 25 Mar 2015, at 14:32, Pete Masters pedrito1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
 
 Can anyone point to anywhere there is a good account of Haiti 2010 and the 
 reaction of OSM people (and subsequent development of HOT)? Particularly how 
 you organised yourselves around this task at such short notice and any 
 timelines.
 
 This is not super important, so please don't spend ages writing an account, 
 but if there is something already written / published, I'd love to see it...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pete
 
 -- 
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 Missing Maps Project Coordinator
 +44 7921 781 518
 
 missingmaps.org
 
 @pedrito1414
 @theMissingMaps
 facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
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Re: [HOT] Most active HOT projects since March 2014

[Martin Dittus]

I just updated the spreadsheet — the user numbers were inflated thanks to a 
subtle bug in my code with big consequences… they now more closely track total 
participant counts in the HOT tasking manager.

(Many thanks to DaCor and Ciaran Staunton who helped me track this down.)

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 On 23 Mar 2015, at 18:59, Martin Dittus mar...@dekstop.de wrote:
 
 Hallo all,
 
 Here are two basic rankings of HOT project activity in the last year, based 
 on map contributions in the past 12 months. Discussion on IRC suggested that 
 this data might be useful to others, so I’m sharing it with the list. 
 
 HOT projects ranked by edit activity from Mar 2014 - Feb 2015 (inclusive):
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12TjMDsgPoEQadiUWbpKjotTMYKPo5NY4W7EDipHnE7Y/edit?usp=sharing
 
 The first tab shows a ranking of all tasking manager projects by number of 
 changesets, the second by number of contributors.
 
 This data is not yet captured by the tasking manager: I’m only looking at 
 participation that actually resulted in changes on the map. To this purpose I 
 identify changesets in the OSM edit history that were tagged with a HOT 
 project id.
 
 I’m curious what other people can read from this data, e.g. whether it 
 matches your intuitions of popular HOT activities.
 
 Of course these kinds of rankings are of dubious utility — projects are 
 rarely directly comparable in their scope, and larger activations may be 
 structured in all kinds of ways. Same goes for changesets as a metric.
 
 Does anyone have good suggestions for how one could meaningfully group the 
 hundreds of HOT projects? E.g. I could aggregate stats for all 
 #MissingMaps/#MapLesotho/Ebola Outbreak projects, are there similar tags I 
 should be looking for? Are these actually meaningful distinctions when 
 looking at contribution outcomes?
 
 Any requests for other stats? I’d be happy to produce more, provided it’s 
 feasible. No promises :)
 
 
 Greetings from London,
 Martin Dittus
 
 ---
 
 If you’re interested in the details — there are a number of challenges in 
 producing such data, and some caveats. Mostly it has to do with the 
 unstructured nature of changeset comments.
 
 I’m likely undercounting: automated iD changeset comments were only 
 introduced in mid-August 2014, see 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mcld/diary/24123 — I’m not identifying 
 earlier contributions that have not been tagged manually.
 
 I’m likely undercounting: HOT projects use multiple tagging conventions for 
 changeset comments, most prominently #hotosm-project-938 and #hotosm-task-907 
 but also #hotosm-Ebola-892 and similar. I'm being quite lenient in what I 
 expect but may not catch all projects. 
 
 I also noticed the tag #hotosm-cap103 which is not actually referring to a 
 project ID, that's an activation (Projet Cap103”).
 
 And — I don’t have project titles for projects that aren’t public any longer.
 


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[HOT] Most active HOT projects since March 2014

[Martin Dittus]

Hallo all,

Here are two basic rankings of HOT project activity in the last year, based on 
map contributions in the past 12 months. Discussion on IRC suggested that this 
data might be useful to others, so I’m sharing it with the list. 

HOT projects ranked by edit activity from Mar 2014 - Feb 2015 (inclusive):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12TjMDsgPoEQadiUWbpKjotTMYKPo5NY4W7EDipHnE7Y/edit?usp=sharing

The first tab shows a ranking of all tasking manager projects by number of 
changesets, the second by number of contributors.

This data is not yet captured by the tasking manager: I’m only looking at 
participation that actually resulted in changes on the map. To this purpose I 
identify changesets in the OSM edit history that were tagged with a HOT project 
id.

I’m curious what other people can read from this data, e.g. whether it matches 
your intuitions of popular HOT activities.

Of course these kinds of rankings are of dubious utility — projects are rarely 
directly comparable in their scope, and larger activations may be structured in 
all kinds of ways. Same goes for changesets as a metric.

Does anyone have good suggestions for how one could meaningfully group the 
hundreds of HOT projects? E.g. I could aggregate stats for all 
#MissingMaps/#MapLesotho/Ebola Outbreak projects, are there similar tags I 
should be looking for? Are these actually meaningful distinctions when looking 
at contribution outcomes?

Any requests for other stats? I’d be happy to produce more, provided it’s 
feasible. No promises :)


Greetings from London,
Martin Dittus

---

If you’re interested in the details — there are a number of challenges in 
producing such data, and some caveats. Mostly it has to do with the 
unstructured nature of changeset comments.

I’m likely undercounting: automated iD changeset comments were only introduced 
in mid-August 2014, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mcld/diary/24123 — 
I’m not identifying earlier contributions that have not been tagged manually.

I’m likely undercounting: HOT projects use multiple tagging conventions for 
changeset comments, most prominently #hotosm-project-938 and #hotosm-task-907 
but also #hotosm-Ebola-892 and similar. I'm being quite lenient in what I 
expect but may not catch all projects. 

I also noticed the tag #hotosm-cap103 which is not actually referring to a 
project ID, that's an activation (Projet Cap103”).

And — I don’t have project titles for projects that aren’t public any longer.


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Re: [HOT] Most active HOT projects since March 2014

[Martin Dittus]

Thanks for the detailed note Pierre! 

We seem to be on the same page — such stats are wonderfully misleading.

I’ve tried grouping HOT projects in the past based on the available metadata 
and have indeed encountered all the obstacles you mention. Part of my 
motivation to share this was also to gently nudge project creators to tag more 
consistently :) Such metadata can be very useful for large-scale evaluations 
and visualisations.

Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 
 The best way to reflect the contributor activity is to go through the history 
 and extract changesets corresponding to a bbox closed to the each Task 
 Manager extent and corresponding to the period of the project.

Yeah I’ve done that in the past on an older OSM history dump, that’s how this 
world map of HOT contributions was created:
https://twitter.com/dekstop/status/565211831720235009

Although that image actually visualises individual edits, not just changesets.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Summit Idea - Panel on Academic Research HOT

[Martin Dittus]

Thank you so much for proposing this, I think this would be well worth 
organising! It’s an opportune moment as well to set some basic expectations. 

With other communities I’ve experienced that as they mature they can develop a 
greater resistance against outside researchers, often as a result of bad 
experiences. Maybe there’s an opportunity to articulate early what a healthy 
researcher/community relationship can look like. I’ve some experiences from 
this and other communities I can share. 

(I also sent you an email off-list.)

m.



 On 22 Mar 2015, at 21:48, Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm thinking about submitting a panel proposal for the HOT Summit on academic 
 partnerships with HOT.  Potential topics for discussion could include 
 research ethics, opportunities for documenting HOT's efforts, and the kinds 
 of questions that the HOT community would see benefit from having academic 
 investigation into.
 
 There is tremendous scholarly interest in OpenStreetMap these days and HOT is 
 an important reason for that.  I think it could be useful for us as a 
 community to articulate what partnership with academic researchers might look 
 like and what we might hope to gain from this.
 
 If you have interest in participating in this panel or just have thoughts 
 that you would like to see covered, please drop me a line here or off-list.  
 Look forward to seeing everyone at the Summit.
 
 Thanks!
 Robert
 
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