RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

[Dale Beams]

XYZ is in a universal language, that of experts, of mathematicians.  It is the 
language of XYZ that allows us to situate ourselves in a spatial 3d world.




Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:47:18 -0700
From: goo...@levy.ch
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul



On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:58:02 AM UTC-4, Jim Watters wrote:
  

  
  
On 2012-05-14 7:45 PM, Margaret Wong wrote:

  

  Personally I think of the Assistant as 'beginner', and
  anything to do with bracketing or XYZ mosaics as 'expert',
  i.e. things that should be well hidden unless you go looking
  for them.  Everything else in the GUI is relevant to tweaking
  stuff that happens behind the scenes of the Assistant.
  



  



  As a relative beginner I do bracketing and mosaics and did those 
nearly from day one.  It took me ages to realise that an XYZ mosaic
  wasn't a pano in  strict terms.


  



As an Expert in shooting and stitching panoramas I would prefer to
see a simple GUI unless I want to use some of advanced technique.



This was why I suggested the name Simple instead of Beginner. The
idea is to show as few controls that are necessary to do the most
common simple stitching.



If a user wants to use an advanced shooting technique, like not keep
the camera rotated around the NPP then they will need the Advanced
mode to stitch those images together.

I agree with both Margaret and Jim.  The current terminology reflects an inward 
view that has nothing to do with the level of proficiency of the user -- 
neither in terms of computing nor in terms of photography.  It draws an 
arbitrary line in the sand.  Why should XYZ be considered more advanced than 
bracketing?  only because it requires more parameters?  was added later?  Added 
technological complexity?

The current UI simplification is great from an expert perspective and I fully 
agree with Jim's view and support his terminology.  The 
beginner/advanced/expert terminology is misleading.  A real beginner is 
somebody who does not know the strict terms (to paraphrase Margaret) yet.  For 
a beginner it does not matter whether the stitch was achieved with 
ypr/XYZ/morph-to-fit (BTW, good stuff, Bruno!) and whether visual uniformity 
was achieved with bracketing/exposure correction/blending.  Without detracting 
from the current UI, which I find is a significant improvement, the terminology 
is not very helpful for beginners.

What would help beginners are assistants; e.g. code that detects bracketed 
shooting and asks the user if they want to switch those features of the UI on 
(and even offers some guidance, maybe even automation); or code that detects 
bad geometrical alignment which could be improved with XYZ and asks the user if 
they want to activate that feature of the UI.  The manual switch implemented 
now is good for experts.

I repeat: the new GUI is good progress, but don't raise expectations it can't 
meet by giving the impression that the simple UI is for beginners.  Even if the 
new GUI is an improvement for (almost) everybody, it adds more to experts than 
to beginners.

Yuv




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[hugin-ptx] Recommend a camera

[Dale Beams]

If someone could recommend a reasonably priced camera from borrowlenses.com, 
lens, tripod, and pano mount I'd like to try some nature panos here in 
Arkansas.  Nikon is preferred, not old, but not new.  Something I might be able 
to purchase reasonably in the future.

Dale


  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Looking for recomendations on a new camera

[Dale Beams]

Speaking of ... is there a group for experimental edge photography?

Dale

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:18:57 -0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Looking for recomendations on a new camera
From: cartol...@gmail.com
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Surely :) but in fact I don't think sigma are that worse. Would this picture 
get much better with a canon lens? I also use an Opteka 6.5, but I am really 
just an amateur trying to help.


Anyway, sorry for the incoherence. I began being ironic with the most expensive 
models as I didn't think that there would be a high budget. I was trying to 
provoke a more specific question. I would recommend a T3i for a beginner, but 
the vague question got more specific... he will borrow lenses...


Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360




2012/1/11 Erik Krause 

Am 10.01.2012 12:19, schrieb Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola):




Canon 1D mark IV, Nikon D3x...?



And lenses? Sigma 18-250mm for standard pictures




It's always a good idea to put worst quality lenses on the most expensive 
cameras ;-)



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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Looking for recomendations on a new camera

[Dale Beams]

Sooo ...

Specifically?  I was looking to browse different types of camera via borrow 
lenses (some of the more economical ones) and was looking for suggestions that 
people were using.

I would be initially using the camera in a studio lighting workshop, and then 
for model photos for portrait sculpture, a portrait study, and then 
experimental photos of people (long chairs put together into one photo, a 
theater full of the same people, etc.).

The secondary use would be to continue use in panos, stereo, etc.  I'm looking 
at reproducing some of the photos I've seen so I understand the technique.  I'd 
also like to be able to enter on 1x and feel comfortable doing so.

I have an opportunity to buy a Nikon D300, however the individual wants about 
300.00 more than I'm willing to pay.  While I have monetary funds at my 
disposal, I'd prefer to use them in educational use elsewhere (such as flight 
school).

Thanks for the range of responses.  I learned many things from the e-mails.

Dale

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:18:57 -0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Looking for recomendations on a new camera
From: cartol...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Surely :) but in fact I don't think sigma are that worse. Would this picture 
get much better with a canon lens? I also use an Opteka 6.5, but I am really 
just an amateur trying to help.


Anyway, sorry for the incoherence. I began being ironic with the most expensive 
models as I didn't think that there would be a high budget. I was trying to 
provoke a more specific question. I would recommend a T3i for a beginner, but 
the vague question got more specific... he will borrow lenses...


Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360




2012/1/11 Erik Krause 

Am 10.01.2012 12:19, schrieb Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola):




Canon 1D mark IV, Nikon D3x...?



And lenses? Sigma 18-250mm for standard pictures




It's always a good idea to put worst quality lenses on the most expensive 
cameras ;-)



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Looking for recomendations on a new camera

[Dale Beams]

I'm using a point and shoot currently.  I was looking at Nikon, 
specifically to use in a lighting workshop via borrow lenses.  
Understanding I need to move into a full DSLR, I thought I consider 
something used but was unsure what types of ratings the cameras were 
with plethora of camera's now available on the market.


Dale

On 1/10/2012 5:19 AM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) wrote:

Uau, what a vague question...

Canon 1D mark IV, Nikon D3x...?

I would choose between Nikon and Canon, although I myself prefer 
Canon. You can hack a canon with Magic Lantern putting on a T2i 
features that you will only find on a much more expensive model.


And lenses? Sigma 18-250mm for standard pictures and a Sigma 8mm for 
panoramas.


Cheers,

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http://cartola.org/360



2012/1/9 Dale Beams mailto:drbe...@hotmail.com>>

I'm looking for recommendations on a new camera.  Will be doing
portrait and etc. something like you might find on dpchallange or
1x.  Would still like to do panos from time to time.

Dale


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[hugin-ptx] Looking for recomendations on a new camera

[Dale Beams]

I'm looking for recommendations on a new camera.  Will be doing portrait and 
etc. something like you might find on dpchallange or 1x.  Would still like to 
do panos from time to time.

Dale


  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] IRC

[Dale Beams]

IRC Channel is fixed.  Sorry about that.

freenode.net #hugin

On 11/25/2011 4:05 PM, Felix Hagemann wrote:

I've been looking into the #hugin channel every now and then a few
years ago. It wasn't especially busy at the time but there were a
couple of people around. If I remember correctly then the channel was
set up by Dale Beams and he had administrator rights for it.

Dale, are you around? Do you know anything about the #hugin channel,
which does not seem to be open for anybody to join any more?

Cheers
Felix




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[hugin-ptx] Panorama of San Vitale

[Dale Beams]

Does anyone have or know of a panorama of San Vitale, in Ravena Italy?  
I'm looking for a more complete "whole" picture of the church.


Dale

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[hugin-ptx] Planer form to curved form software.

[Dale Beams]

I'm looking for planer to curved from software that I can print out a sheet 
with lines and cut/tape or fold.  Will Matlab do this or something else?  Open 
source pre-ferred.

Dale


  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin Experience

[Dale Beams]

Btw, this is an awesome image!



> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:34:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin Experience
> From: orbisvi...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Is it possible to create a rectilinear panorama from images (shot from
> one location) ranging (tip-to-tip) 67 degrees horizontally and 50
> degrees vertically such that the output image plane does not appear to
> "lean" forwards or backwards, but flat as in
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/acmace/5239601953/sizes/l/  ?
> 
> I'm only able to create a semi-decent projection from equirectangular

  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] auto straighten changes yaw by 180 degrees

[Dale Beams]

I've had the same issues with some pano's.

Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:01:02 -0700
From: 360cit...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] auto straighten changes yaw by 180 degrees

ok. well, centering a pano i guess will definitely change the yaw, by 
definition. but straightening a pano, and changing the yaw, this really bothers 
me, because i try to shoot all my panos pointing north (so when i publish them 
on the web, they have the correct heading for google earth etc.)

but if no one else has the problem, i guess this thread is going nowhere fast! 
:-DD






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RE: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Dale Beams]

I have a set of working *.deb for Ubuntu.  Message me privately if you'd like 
them Jeffrey.

Dale






From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:42:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Jeffrey,

I don't have AMD nor 64bit, so I am done with helping.
Sorry. 

Someone else please?

Jan


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Jan,

Checking synaptic, there is only Hugin 0.8.

Jeffrey



On Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:14:35 PM UTC-5, janmartin wrote:There is no 
need to restart with Linux.


If it worked (I doubt it) hugin should be the newest version.

You can check Synaptic for hugin version now.

Jan


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com> wrote:




Well, I restarted, but I can't find Hugin anywhere if I search for it in 
Ubuntu Software Center for example, nothing is found. Maybe I'm just being dumb 
at this point it did take about 20 minutes to download and install 
something... ugh :)





Any ideas?

thanks,
Jeffrey

On Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:58:45 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:



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Hash: SHA1Hi JeffreyCompiling development versions of packages is not for 
everyone; They are
prone to fail in most spectacular ways, and sometimes, this is
deliberately ;)




However, for Ubuntu users, there is  another way to get the latest
release; the nightly hugin build available from
https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/nightly




Of course, nobody will be able to guarantee that these packages actually
do what they have been intended to do. However, they compiled without
error and can be installed with very little effort on most actual Ubuntu




systems.
In your case, I'd assume that the following commands, issued inside an
opened terminal window, will do:sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hugin/nightlysudo 
apt-get updatesudo apt-get upgrade



After this procedure, you can start hugin either from the command line
or from the main menu, and you should get a working hugin
2010.5.0.a919ab72e6b1 (At least if done at or around 01/26/11)As I already have 
mentioned, no one can guarantee that this version from




the nightly build series actually works. However, it has been compiled
on the launchpad infrastructure in order to being published in the ppa.If you 
want to play it safer, you can replace ppa:hugin/nightly with




ppa:hugin/hugin-builds in the commands above. In this case, you will get
hugin 2010.4.0+dfsg, the latest stable version. BTW, this version has
been ack'd into the upcoming next Ubuntu version (Natty) today.




CheersStefan Peter- -- 
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In
practice there is.
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Cpfind for Dummies

[Dale Beams]

What OS and distro are you using?

Dale






> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:53:54 -0800
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Cpfind for Dummies
> From: doertbu...@googlemail.com
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> 
> Hi Pablo,
> 
> many thanks for this very quick response. I have to have the latest
> dev Version. Where do i get this one? Do i need to compile it myself?
> 
> Thanks, Can
> 
> On 21 Jan., 09:38, "Pablo d'Angelo"  wrote:
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > On 21 Jan., 09:07, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
> >
> > > same problem for me. I've tried the fullscale option and sieve1size
> > > etc. as well. I can't find control points in the pictures of my
> > > walimex fish eye. If somebody wants to verify this here is the link to
> > > the pictures:http://www.doertbudak.de/test_can.zip
> >
> > I just tried your images and it worked fine with the current
> > development version, and the default cpfind settings.
> > Hugin 2010.4 will NOT work, you need the most recent development
> > version (harrys latest OSX build might work too, although it doesn't
> > yet contain a proper RANSAC for fisheye images).
> >
> > I did the following steps:
> > 1. Load images
> > 2. Set full frame fisheye, HFOV
> > 3. Press Align button
> >
> > And this properly connected all images, even though the overlap is
> > quite small.
> >
> > ciao
> >  Pablo
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: PTS files

[Dale Beams]

Earlier when I posted my many screenshot links about CPFind and it's
failure on my system, I also was using a *.pts as a base.  However it
was a *.pts file I'd generated from Autopano Pro rather than PTGui it
self.

When I attempted the pano with Hugin directly with CPFind itself, it did
not fail, however, the photos were a jumbled ...

Dale


On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:48 +, Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sun 16-Jan-2011 at 14:37 -0800, Tom Sharpless wrote:
> >On Jan 12, 1:35 pm, Bruno Postle  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hugin can import ptgui .pts files and save them as Hugin .pto
> >> projects, though if you have any cropped photos in the project you
> >> will need to fiddle with the crop and reoptimise.
> 
> >When I give it a PTS file from PTGui 9, my copy of 2010.2 (Win32)
> >displays the lens type and number of control points, then crashes
> >(loops forever)  apparently while trying to load images.  My guess it
> >that this has to do with PTGui's "dummy image", that is used as a
> >reference for common parameters, but has no file name.
> 
> I don't have PTGui, but I have seen recent reports that this 
> function still works.  The dummy image always existed in PTGui .pts 
> projects, so this isn't likely to be the cause of the problem.
> 
> If you have some .pts files that fail then it would useful to attach 
> them to a bug report in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin
> 
> -- 
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Re: [hugin-ptx] No Parameters to optimize

[Dale Beams]

I assume this is what your getting.

http://imagebin.org/132760

which is a result of this

http://imagebin.org/132761
http://imagebin.org/132762
http://imagebin.org/132763
http://imagebin.org/132764
http://imagebin.org/132765
http://imagebin.org/132760

Which is interesting because it shows an average 40 control points per
photo.

Something broke in the GUI or with CPFind?


Command line cpfind results in:

Reference thread created.
1 reference-thread added.
pollUserThreads()
pollReferenceThreads()
Thread destroyed.
1 reference-thread reclaimed.
ThreadQueue destroyed

Hugin - 2010.5.0.8d6319da53fc
Ubuntu 10.10

Dale

On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 08:47 -0800, Ola Lindberg wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to make a panorama with 14 images. I load them and press
> align. It does some things but returns with a "No Parameters to
> optimize" error. Some of the images isn't connected (guess it couldn't
> find any control points?) and I can't preview the panorama.
> 
> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here?
> 


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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: cpfind rocks!

[Dale Beams]

fwiw, i'm getting thread destroyed while using cpfind as well.  More 
interestingly, using the gui, and the image tab, "create control points' you 
can see it's finding cp points and then when it's finished it quits, dumps out 
a message 0 control points found.






From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:29:46 +0100
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: cpfind rocks!
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

This is what I get on Ubuntu 10.4.

hugin -> Help -> About -> System:
Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-27-generic i686
Architecture: 32 bit
Free memory: -1740888 kiB

Hugin
Version: 2010.5.0.8d6319da53fc


Path to ressources: /usr/share/hugin/xrc/
Path to data: /usr/share/hugin/data/

Terminal:
me@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -S bin/cpfind
hugin-tools: /usr/bin/cpfind

me@ubuntu:~$ cpfind
ThreadQueue created


Hugins cpfind 2010.5.0.8d6319da53fc
based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski

Parse error:  
 One or more required arguments missing!


Basic usage : 
  cpfind -o output_project project.pto


  cpfind -k i0 -k i1 ... -k in project.pto
  cpfind --kall project.pto

All options : 
--celesteRadius  Radius for celeste (default 20)
--celesteThresholdThreshold for celeste (default 0.5)


--celeste Run celeste after loading images
-p ,  --keypath 
  Path to cache keyfiles
--clean   Clean up cached keyfiles


-c,  --cache  Caches keypoints to external file
--kallWrite keyfiles for all images
-k ,  --writekeyfile   (accepted multiple times)
  Write a keyfile for this image number


-o ,  --output 
  Output file
-n ,  --ncores  Number of CPU/Cores(default:autodetect)
-t,  --test   Enables test mode



--fullscale   Uses full scale image to detect keypoints
(default:false)

--sieve1widthSieve 1 : Number of buckets on width(default 
: 10)
--sieve1height   Sieve 1 : Number of buckets on height(default 
: 10)


--sieve1size Sieve 1 : Max points per bucket(default : 30)

--kdtreestepsKDTree : search steps(default : 40)
--kdtreeseconddistKDTree : distance of 2nd match(default : 0.15)



--multirowEnable heuristic multi row matching (default: off)
--linearmatch Enable linear images matching (default : all 
pairs)
--linearmatchlen Number of images to match in linear matching 
(default:1)



--minmatches Minimum matches(default : 4)
--ransaciter Ransac : iterations(default : 1000)
--ransacdist Ransac : homography estimation distance threshold 
(pixels)


  (default : 25)
--sieve2widthSieve 2 : Number of buckets on width(default 
: 5)
--sieve2height   Sieve 2 : Number of buckets on height(default 
: 5)


--sieve2size Sieve 2 : Max points per bucket(default : 2)

--,  --ignore_restIgnores the rest of the labeled arguments 
following this flag.
--version Displays version information and exits.


-h,  --help   Displays usage information and exits.
  (required)  Input Project File
ThreadQueue waiting on remaining threads...
Reference thread created.
1 reference-thread added.


pollUserThreads()
pollReferenceThreads()
Thread destroyed.
1 reference-thread reclaimed.
ThreadQueue destroyed
me@ubuntu:~$ 



On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Andreas Metzler  
wrote:


Russ  wrote:



> I just updated this package on Ubuntu 10.10 and was a bit dismayed

> when I couldn't really find cpfind easily.  It wasn't in the dropdown

> selector for cp detector, and going into the preferences menu I was

> lost in trying to figure out how to add it.  In reading Terry's

> comment I removed the .hugin file from my home directory and things

> are better now.

[...]



Doesn't Ubuntu install apt-listchanges by default? I would strongly

recommend to install it and set it up to only show NEWS files.



It would have shown this upon upgrading to hugin 2010.4.0:



--

hugin (2010.4.0+dfsg~beta1-1) experimental; urgency=low



  Starting with 2010.4.0 the hugin suite of program also includes a

  (patent-free) control-point detector. autopano-sift(-c) et al are not

  necessary/nice to have anymore.



  If hugin does not offer cpfind as control-point detector after

  ugrading to 2010.4.0, please open the respective configuration dialogue

  (File->Preferences->Control-Point-Detectors) and use the [Load Defaults]

  button to update the list.

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with large number of images

[Dale Beams]

>From their webpage:

AutoStitch is now available in the following commercial products:

Autopano Pro www.autopano.net (Windows, Mac, Linux)
 Serif PanoramaPlus www.serif.com (Windows)
 Calico www.kekus.com (Mac)

Autostitch is the underlying technology for Autopano Pro & Serif PanormaPlus as 
well as Calico for the Mac.

Dale


Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:42:18 -0800
From: 360cit...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with 
large number of images

uh

autostitch / serif is something totally different from autopano pro. different 
companies.




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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with large number of images

[Dale Beams]

On a side note.

Autostitch runs in linux using wine.  Morever, autostitch is not limited
to AutoPanoPro, but is also available as a free download within Serif
product.  The Pro version of Serif is available for 19.99 iirc.

http://www.serif.com/free-panoramic-photo-stiching-software/

Dale


On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 09:05 -0600, Dale Beams wrote:
> Autopano Pro uses autostitch which can be downloaded and used for free.
> However iirc, there are some limitations.
> 
> http://cvlab.epfl.ch/~brown/autostitch/autostitch.html
> 
> On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 05:57 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > "  Does anyone know 
> > which control point detector AutoPanoGiga uses?  Is the similar 
> > algorithm available in Hugin?"
> > 
> > It is far superior (in terms of speed and reliability) to anything in
> > Hugin as far as I can tell. It does a lot guessing when the "dumb
> > automatic" scheme of looking for control points doesn't work
> > completely.
> > 
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with large number of images

[Dale Beams]

Autopano Pro uses autostitch which can be downloaded and used for free.
However iirc, there are some limitations.

http://cvlab.epfl.ch/~brown/autostitch/autostitch.html

On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 05:57 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> "  Does anyone know 
> which control point detector AutoPanoGiga uses?  Is the similar 
> algorithm available in Hugin?"
> 
> It is far superior (in terms of speed and reliability) to anything in
> Hugin as far as I can tell. It does a lot guessing when the "dumb
> automatic" scheme of looking for control points doesn't work
> completely.
> 
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with large number of images

[Dale Beams]

I routinely stitch 120+ images together.  Recently I've resorted to
using an older version of Hugin in a vm and/or using AutoPanoPro Giga
for setting my control points.  Because AutopanoPro Giga does the job
I'll probably end up getting that for my control point creation,
exporting to panotools and importing into hugin for my final edit.

Dale

On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 06:28 -0800, michael.grant wrote:
> First, I must say that this set of 150 images I have (which was shot
> by a friend without a tripod) is not exactly the easiest set of images
> to stitch.  They were shot using a sort of triangular overlapping
> grid, though there is somewhat of a linearity to them over 3-4 images.
> 
> Second, kfj, yah, I know I can go in and connect the two images
> together.  I tried that in fact, it's less than easy!  Hugin (at least
> to my knowledge of it) does not give you the chunks stitched together
> to show you the two larger pieces, hence, I'm looking at essentially
> puzzle pieces to figure out how to make two things fit.  This is where
> I started playing with the AutoPanoGiga trial to see if it could
> handle it--it does but I'm not sure why.  I suppose I could use the
> two tools, AutoPanoGiga to show me where the images connect then go
> back into Hugin and connect them, but that seems, well, pointless.
> 
> I bet I don't have keyfiles since I didn't know I needed those!  How
> do I generate those?  I didn't see mention of that in the docs I read,
> perhaps I missed a step.  All I did was load my images in Hugin and
> ran a batch, there was no option for any interviewing step.
> 
> Emaad, I'm glad to know I'm not alone here!  I thought I was going
> nuts, I have been at this for several days straight!
> 
> I'm going to get myself a robotic pano head, probably a Gigapan Pro
> and that will make stitching these things easier.  My eventual goal
> here is to stitch a few more than 150 images, first I'm just trying to
> get this working in some of the worst cases so I can trust it in some
> of the better but larger cases.
> 
> Is there a page somewhere that tells where to get all the optional
> bits for Hugin and how to configure them?  http://wiki.panotools.org/Software
> seems like a good starting place but some of those links are out of
> date and nothing ties it all together for Hugin in specific.  If not,
> where can I document this as I put it all together?
> 
> Michael
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[hugin-ptx] PTS files

[Dale Beams]

Is there a way to combine several PTS files in Hugin into one set?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[Dale Beams]

On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:55 -0600, Dale Beams wrote:
> In addition, other programs often use date/time of photo as an
> indication of loading to the grid.  For example, the first photo having
> a time of 11:00 and the next having a time of 11:00:15 would indicate
> the first and next photos of the set, and their relationship to one
> another.  This method is can also be used to extract multiple pano's
> from a group of photos.  One would expect photos taken on the 1st of the
> month to be a set and photos taken on the second of the month to be a
> set as well.
> 
> Using a date/time sequence, when photo 12 and photo 13 does not match,
> one can assume a new row.
> 
> One only needs to indicate direction at this point.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:31 -0600, Dale Beams wrote:
> > Not as complicated as one might seem.  There are many programs that ask
> > for table sizes.  This is essentially a table
> > 
> > Dialog:
> > 
> > How many rows & columns
> > Which direction
> > Etc.
> > 
> > The other option is to present a table layout.  It's then easy to mark
> > each cell in the table as row/column, set the direction, set the
> > starting row, etc.  Rows with different number of photos sets would have
> > empty cells where the rows were shorter.
> > 
> > Comparison is a good measuring stick to be subject to, unless the
> > project is so creative and so groundbreaking it becomes the measuring
> > stick.
> > 
> > Even the simplest stitchers have layout options, direction, rotation,
> > etc.
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 14:49 +, Bruno Postle wrote:
> > > On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 22:15 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> I see very little value in a wizard that asks you a number of rows
> > > >> and columns, this will only add complication to the GUI and won't
> > > >> help a significant proportion of people who do seriously large
> > > >> panoramas.
> > > >
> > > >and yet there is demand for that?
> > > 
> > > People ask for it.  But we had a determined attempt to design a GUI 
> > > for it as part of James's Layout Summer of Code project and 
> > > immediately encountered so many special cases that it would be the 
> > > most complex interface in the whole software.  Some of the issues:
> > > 
> > > Different numbers of photos in each row is normal (actually it's 
> > > preferred for spherical panoramas).
> > > 
> > > Left to right, or right to left, or up and down sequences are all 
> > > valid.
> > > 
> > > Zig-zagging sequences are valid and preferable for partial 
> > > panoramas.
> > > 
> > > Middle-row first is almost always preferable to starting top-left.
> > > 
> > > All this is why the multi-row procedure exists in Hugin, in 
> > > principle it deals with all these cases automatically without a GUI.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Bruno
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

[Dale Beams]

Emaad,
 
E-Mail me privately, or chat with me on IRC and I'll see if I can help you.
 
Dale





 


Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:39:19 +0500
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
From: xyzt...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com


Hi Yuv,



Its ok. I also did not want to continue this war of words. 


This group and people working here are very important for me. I have always 
appreciated your efforts and time for this group. 


I was following your advice. first step was command line CP generation with 
CPfind and it finished successfully. CPs are accurately placed. But than all 
this happened. There is mixture of jpgs and tiff files. Jpegs are SOOC



On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

Hi Emaad,

On January 3, 2011 03:43:41 am Emad ud din Btt wrote:
> Here is my reply

http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/6551ccc0aca0f842

can you distinguish between quoted text and reply?  I can't.  please start by
quoting properly.



> Until then, I will ignore you / your posts.
> Yuv
>
> Emotions are everywhere one must be gentle. I have explained myself very
> well in a fair tone. But language you used is very harsh and insulting. You
> can have difference of opinion but that does not give you right to use such
> language on such forums. This is also not first time I have to face such
> bad language from you. But I said nothing. If you don't like something or
> do not want to do something than its your right to do so.
>
> You reply to my post or ignore me or you do whatever. But be GENTLE.

no intention to offend you, but I also have no time to embellish text.  please
don't read emotions where there are no.  electronic communication leaves a lot
of void between the lines and readers fill them... with their own imagination
and emotions.  a writer can trigger emotions in his readers, but that does not
mean that he feels those emotions.  some writers are really good at
deliberately controlling the emotion they trigger.  others (like me) are not.
so i have triggered a bad emotion in you, sorry. was not my intention.

afaik nobody has yet invented the emotion-reading email client.

this is not the first time I am trying to give you advice, and it is not the
first time that I get the impression that the advice does not lead to the
expected results, which i believe are the same for you and for me:  helping
you make the best out of Hugin.  As I stated repeatedly, it is not possible to
help you based on wrong / incomplete statements; and it is not possible to
help you without proper communication / feedback channel.

try again
Yuv


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[hugin-ptx] Fuzzy Matches

[Dale Beams]

An interesting article about comuter chips that could be applied to photo 
matching.  In fact, when one matches photos by hand via gimp, etc. we do fuzzy 
matching based on lines, shapes, colors disregarding "points"  The same 
application could be used in computer photo matching for speed, etc. via 
software.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/fuzzy-logic-0103.html


  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[Dale Beams]

In addition, other programs often use date/time of photo as an
indication of loading to the grid.  For example, the first photo having
a time of 11:00 and the next having a time of 11:00:15 would indicate
the first and next photos of the set, and their relationship to one
another.  This method is can also be used to extract multiple pano's
from a group of photos.  One would expect photos taken on the 1st of the
month to be a set and photos taken on the second of the month to be a
set as well.

Using a date/time sequence, when photo 12 and photo 13 does not match,
one can assume a new row.

One only needs to indicate direction at this point.



On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:31 -0600, Dale Beams wrote:
> Not as complicated as one might seem.  There are many programs that ask
> for table sizes.  This is essentially a table
> 
> Dialog:
> 
> How many rows & columns
> Which direction
> Etc.
> 
> The other option is to present a table layout.  It's then easy to mark
> each cell in the table as row/column, set the direction, set the
> starting row, etc.  Rows with different number of photos sets would have
> empty cells where the rows were shorter.
> 
> Comparison is a good measuring stick to be subject to, unless the
> project is so creative and so groundbreaking it becomes the measuring
> stick.
> 
> Even the simplest stitchers have layout options, direction, rotation,
> etc.
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 14:49 +, Bruno Postle wrote:
> > On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 22:15 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > 
> > >> I see very little value in a wizard that asks you a number of rows
> > >> and columns, this will only add complication to the GUI and won't
> > >> help a significant proportion of people who do seriously large
> > >> panoramas.
> > >
> > >and yet there is demand for that?
> > 
> > People ask for it.  But we had a determined attempt to design a GUI 
> > for it as part of James's Layout Summer of Code project and 
> > immediately encountered so many special cases that it would be the 
> > most complex interface in the whole software.  Some of the issues:
> > 
> > Different numbers of photos in each row is normal (actually it's 
> > preferred for spherical panoramas).
> > 
> > Left to right, or right to left, or up and down sequences are all 
> > valid.
> > 
> > Zig-zagging sequences are valid and preferable for partial 
> > panoramas.
> > 
> > Middle-row first is almost always preferable to starting top-left.
> > 
> > All this is why the multi-row procedure exists in Hugin, in 
> > principle it deals with all these cases automatically without a GUI.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bruno
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[Dale Beams]

Not as complicated as one might seem.  There are many programs that ask
for table sizes.  This is essentially a table

Dialog:

How many rows & columns
Which direction
Etc.

The other option is to present a table layout.  It's then easy to mark
each cell in the table as row/column, set the direction, set the
starting row, etc.  Rows with different number of photos sets would have
empty cells where the rows were shorter.

Comparison is a good measuring stick to be subject to, unless the
project is so creative and so groundbreaking it becomes the measuring
stick.

Even the simplest stitchers have layout options, direction, rotation,
etc.

Dale


On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 14:49 +, Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 22:15 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> 
> >> I see very little value in a wizard that asks you a number of rows
> >> and columns, this will only add complication to the GUI and won't
> >> help a significant proportion of people who do seriously large
> >> panoramas.
> >
> >and yet there is demand for that?
> 
> People ask for it.  But we had a determined attempt to design a GUI 
> for it as part of James's Layout Summer of Code project and 
> immediately encountered so many special cases that it would be the 
> most complex interface in the whole software.  Some of the issues:
> 
> Different numbers of photos in each row is normal (actually it's 
> preferred for spherical panoramas).
> 
> Left to right, or right to left, or up and down sequences are all 
> valid.
> 
> Zig-zagging sequences are valid and preferable for partial 
> panoramas.
> 
> Middle-row first is almost always preferable to starting top-left.
> 
> All this is why the multi-row procedure exists in Hugin, in 
> principle it deals with all these cases automatically without a GUI.
> 
> -- 
> Bruno
> 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Measure buildings from a panorama?

[Dale Beams]

PTStereo sources are not open to public?  Is PTStereo GPL?

Dale

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 13:48 -0800, Tduell wrote:
> Insight3d

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Attn translators: BugFix = added translation string, sorry.

[Dale Beams]

What package?

Enblend, LibPano or Hugin?

Dale

> From: goo...@levy.ch
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Attn translators: BugFix = added translation string, 
> sorry.
> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:13:45 -0500
> 
> Dear translators,
> 
> *THIS AFFECTS YOUR WORK, SORRY*
> 
> Thomas just fixed (at least partially) a bug that was causing an instant 
> crash 
> in photometric optimization [0].
> 
> Unfortunately, for the fix to also look good, it requires translation of an 
> extra string.  The string has been added to the repository for both default 
> and 2010.4.
> 
> If you have not yet started working on your translation, or if your work has 
> already been committed:
> 
> * get the latest language file as described in the translation guide [1]
> * edit and submit your translations as usually
> 
> If you are in the middle of translating
> * get the latest language file as described in the translation guide [1]
> * use msgmerge [2] to merge to merge your edits into the new file
> * continue your work
> 
> Sorry for the disruption
> Yuv
> 
> 
> [0] 
> [1] 
> 
>  
> [2] 
> 
  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Linear projection

[Dale Beams]

sven,

E-mail me privately with a set of example photos, and i'll take a peek at them 
and see if there is a solution.

Dale





> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:17:06 -0800
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Linear projection
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 Nov., 19:05, A319  wrote:
> > We took about 150 pictures
> > along 10 parallel routes (10 series of pictures) out of the window.
> 
> Looking at your images, I notice that they are quite distorted. It
> looks as if you had actually taken them through a window, and probably
> a not very plane one. With starting material like that, the control
> point generators are having a very hard time. If you have to take
> aerial photogaphs through a window, make sure you always hold the
> camera as close to the pane as possible and set the camera to infinite
> distance (pocket cameras often have a little 'mountains' symbol for
> that). If there is a pane, though, and you try to photograph
> downwards, you hit the pane at a shallow angle, creating bad
> distortions. Ideally you'd have the camera pointing straight down
> without a pane in between; I realize this may not be feasible, but
> with a pane in between your images become very hard to process at all.
> What I don't understand about your images is why they are all
> different sizes. This confuses the optimizer, since it tries to create
> different fields of view etc. for every image. Best to leave them as
> you get them out of the camera - if there are any artifacts in them
> (plane's wings etc.) it's easy to exclude them using the masking
> feature.
> If at all possible, all the images should be taken with similar yaw
> and pitch, to allow initial optimization of X,Y and Z  inside the
> strips with the pitch and yaw set to estimated figures. So if you can,
> just mount the camera and leave it like that. If you have a camera
> that you can remote-control, you can mount it on the plane pointing
> straight down and control it from inside the plane. Try using short
> exposure times (if you can't set the exposure time, use a high ISO
> setting) to minimize distortions due to vibrations.
> Finally, you should take the images in regular time intervals and try
> to create sufficient overlap between them, I found your images don't
> always overlap sufficiently.
> 
> > As you can see, there are serval problems with the highway. What you
> > can not see are errors in the forest.
> 
> I see the biggest problem in the pictures. I doubt you'll find any
> tool to get a decent output from that batch. With a lot af handwork
> you'll approach a solution, but it will be far from optimal. I
> recommend you do another take.
> 
> with regards
> Kay
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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 9.10 & Hugin 2010.2

[Dale Beams]

Per request.  Hugin 2010.2.x for Ubuntu 9.10.  Works on some deb systems
I understand.

Please look at

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/9.10/enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/9.10/libpano13-2.9.17-Linux.deb
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/9.10/hugin-2010.2.0-Linux.deb

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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10 20101101 Build

[Dale Beams]

As promised:

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb

Build for Nov 01, 2010.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Bug Tracker: proposal for migration

[Dale Beams]

Sounds like proprietary software path, where choices are limited by the
cathedral method and not open for voting.

On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 16:02 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
> On October 26, 2010 03:27:39 pm Dale Beams wrote:
> > Hugin !== Ubuntu or Kubuntu
> 
> read the proposal: "for all platforms"
> 
> 
> > Personally I like Mantis, have enjoyed using it, and it's very
> > successful for projects much larger than hugin.
> 
> The only choices open for voting at the moment are:
> (a) stay with SourceForge
> (b) move to Launchpad
> 
> If anybody comes up with an implemented migration path to another tool, and 
> if 
> that tool bears the same cost and effort as Launchpad or SourceForge, it will 
> be added to the above short list for consideration.
> 
> Yuv
> 
> 
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:31 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > > 
> > > One thing that has been bugging (pun intended) me for a few years now is
> > > the bug tracker.  Hugin has grown and IMHO the SourceForge bug tracker
> > > is now inadequate for Hugin's needs.
> > > 
> > > Our current stats:
> > > - Bugs 1115 total - 218 open
> > > - Feature Requests 240 total - 161 open
> > > - Patches 145 total - 12 open
> > > 
> > > I've tried to make it work a few times, but I never managed to clean it
> > > up completely or sorting out the bugs properly.  There is a lot of old
> > > cruft that never expires.
> > > 
> > > So I looked for alternatives, and my recommendation is:  let's move on to
> > > *Launchpad*.  It enables users to not only contribute bugs, but also to
> > > work on their triaging and getting more involved.
> > > 
> > > The criteria I used to evaluate the different bug trackers were:
> > > - search and scalability
> > > - ease of use
> > > - engaging interaction
> > > - ease of migrating the data in and out (we don't want walled gardens)
> > > 
> > > I've considered other tools as well, but in the end Launchpad is IMHO the
> > > best zero-cost hosted solution available, and unlike with the repository
> > > change earlier this year, definitely one step ahead of the competition. 
> > > It is used, amongst others, by Inkscape [0].  The results they have
> > > achieved are excellent [1].
> > > 
> > > With self-hosting (i.e. funding) I might have considered an alternative
> > > like Roundup [2], used by the Python Foundation.  But (a) we don't have
> > > self hosting and (b) the extra cost and effort does not justify the
> > > extra benefit IMHO.
> > > 
> > > The people at Canonical have been very forthcoming.  I have exported the
> > > SF bug tracker and they will import it to a staging version of Launchpad
> > > where we will get to play with it.  I am waiting for the URL where we
> > > can experiment with the new bug tracker to see if it fits our needs [3].
> > > 
> > > At the same time, I contacted the current owner of the unmaintained
> > > Hugin/Ubuntu page on Launchpad [4].  He has moved on and offered to
> > > transfer ownership.  I hope we can get the bugs to reside there so that
> > > we can consolidate the efforts for official Ubuntu binaries with the
> > > effort for better bug tracking *for all platforms*.  Hugin will have a
> > > second home on Launchpad. Actually a third, if we consider that the
> > > mailing list is on GoogleGroups and the code and website will stay on
> > > SourceForge.
> > > 
> > > A few of the advantages of Launchpad:
> > > * bugs can be tagged, so they can belongs to more than just one category
> > > at the same time, and can be easily searched
> > > * users can mark bugs that affect them, giving a signal to bug fixer
> > > where the most pain is felt
> > > * after a while, bugs expire automatically - let's face it, some issues
> > > just don't attract enough attention and having them clutter the bug
> > > tracker is counter-productive
> > > 
> > > 
> > > NEXT STEPS:
> > > * once we have a staging version of the tracker, I will ask *you* to play
> > > with it.  Judge the responsiveness of the interface, the ease of use. 
> > > Try to file a bug report.  See how it behaves.
> > > * if there is no opposition within the next 2-3 weeks,  I will freeze the
> > > current bug tracker and start the final export/import.  We're likely to
> > > ha

Re: [hugin-ptx] Bug Tracker: proposal for migration

[Dale Beams]

Hugin !== Ubuntu or Kubuntu

Personally I like Mantis, have enjoyed using it, and it's very
successful for projects much larger than hugin.

Dale

On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:31 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> One thing that has been bugging (pun intended) me for a few years now is the 
> bug tracker.  Hugin has grown and IMHO the SourceForge bug tracker is now 
> inadequate for Hugin's needs.
> 
> Our current stats:
> - Bugs 1115 total - 218 open
> - Feature Requests 240 total - 161 open
> - Patches 145 total - 12 open
> 
> I've tried to make it work a few times, but I never managed to clean it up 
> completely or sorting out the bugs properly.  There is a lot of old cruft 
> that 
> never expires.
> 
> So I looked for alternatives, and my recommendation is:  let's move on to 
> *Launchpad*.  It enables users to not only contribute bugs, but also to work 
> on their triaging and getting more involved.
> 
> The criteria I used to evaluate the different bug trackers were:
> - search and scalability
> - ease of use
> - engaging interaction
> - ease of migrating the data in and out (we don't want walled gardens)
> 
> I've considered other tools as well, but in the end Launchpad is IMHO the 
> best 
> zero-cost hosted solution available, and unlike with the repository change 
> earlier this year, definitely one step ahead of the competition.  It is used, 
> amongst others, by Inkscape [0].  The results they have achieved are 
> excellent 
> [1].
> 
> With self-hosting (i.e. funding) I might have considered an alternative like 
> Roundup [2], used by the Python Foundation.  But (a) we don't have self 
> hosting and (b) the extra cost and effort does not justify the extra benefit 
> IMHO.
> 
> The people at Canonical have been very forthcoming.  I have exported the SF 
> bug tracker and they will import it to a staging version of Launchpad where 
> we 
> will get to play with it.  I am waiting for the URL where we can experiment 
> with the new bug tracker to see if it fits our needs [3].
> 
> At the same time, I contacted the current owner of the unmaintained 
> Hugin/Ubuntu page on Launchpad [4].  He has moved on and offered to transfer 
> ownership.  I hope we can get the bugs to reside there so that we can 
> consolidate the efforts for official Ubuntu binaries with the effort for 
> better 
> bug tracking *for all platforms*.  Hugin will have a second home on 
> Launchpad.  
> Actually a third, if we consider that the mailing list is on GoogleGroups and 
> the code and website will stay on SourceForge.
> 
> A few of the advantages of Launchpad:
> * bugs can be tagged, so they can belongs to more than just one category at 
> the same time, and can be easily searched
> * users can mark bugs that affect them, giving a signal to bug fixer where 
> the 
> most pain is felt
> * after a while, bugs expire automatically - let's face it, some issues just 
> don't attract enough attention and having them clutter the bug tracker is 
> counter-productive
> 
> 
> NEXT STEPS:
> * once we have a staging version of the tracker, I will ask *you* to play 
> with 
> it.  Judge the responsiveness of the interface, the ease of use.  Try to file 
> a 
> bug report.  See how it behaves.
> * if there is no opposition within the next 2-3 weeks,  I will freeze the 
> current bug tracker and start the final export/import.  We're likely to have 
> an 
> interruption of a couple of days between export and import.
> * once the new bug tracker is active, users are invited to help triage the 
> bugs, freeing developers to actually fix those that have been triaged 
> properly.
> 
> I hope we can achieve similar results as Inkscape [5].  Hugin has outgrown 
> the 
> SF bug tracker.  There is plenty of room to grow further on Launchpad.
> 
> Yuv
> 
> [0] 
> [1] 
> [2] 
> [3] 
> [4] 
> [5] 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Fused exposures are too light!

[Dale Beams]

Engu

On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 09:18 +0100, paul womack wrote:
> Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > 
> > An enfuse GUI (is luminance the right thing here?) would be very
> > helpful for this kind of thing, to visualize how the different
> > parameters affect the result.
> 
> An Enfuse Gui you say? If only we could come
> up with a memorable or obvious name for such
> a thing ;-)
> 
> http://software.bergmark.com/enfuseGUI/Main.html
> 
>BugBear
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Autopano SIFT-C-2.5.1 downloadsite.

[Dale Beams]

When I did research on copyright laws, (in reference to japanese
animation and fansubs) I located some international agreements that
would prohibit fansubs in the US even though copyright had not been
applied for, as they had been copyrighted in their own country.
Essentially fansubs are not legal in the US because of international
agreements and laws.  There are some companies now issuing cease and
desist orders for such fansubs in the US. The agreement essentially
stats that countries belonging to those particular agreements agree to
uphold and prosecute copyright etc. agreements.

In respect to patents, I suspect there is a similar agreement (trade,
patent, or otherwise).  Essentially such an agreement would most likely
fit any civilized country even the EU if such an agreement exists.

Copyright, patent, intellectual property, trade agreements, etc, weren't
meant to play nicely.

In truth, researching the entire pano thing, there are patents within
the US on computer generated panos, which would require any pano
stitcher to get a patent release.

I'd get a good definitive answer from a good lawyer.

Dale


On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 13:17 -0700, thePanz wrote:
> On Oct 22, 9:13 pm, Henk Tijdink  wrote:
> > Hello All
> > Probably no patent issues because it is french webspace, because the
> > EU has other rules then the USA.
> 
> If someone can confirm that in UE the SIFT patent isn't applicable I
> can put the binary on my webspace ( in Italy)
> 
> Cheers
> 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

KFJ,

Do you have a video card with GL, such as Nvidia, etc. which you don't
have the drivers loaded?  PanoGLView will perform slowly if you don't
have the right drivers for you video card.

Dale

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 03:37 -0700, kfj wrote:
> 
> On 18 Okt., 23:13, Bob Bright  wrote:
> > There were a couple of dependencies missing from the panoglview
> > instructions on the wiki (libwxgtk2.8-dev and libglew-dev).  I've added
> > them, so you might want to try again.
> 
> I had those already. It compiles fine, I just don't get it to run,
> neither what I compile myself nor Dale's readymade one. It must be
> some problem on this 10.10 setup [upgrade form Kubuntu 10.4], since it
> all runs just fine on my 10.4, no matter what flavour. I won't put any
> more effort in analyzing what the problem might be since on the
> machine I'm using, panoglview performs sluggishly anyway - it doesn't
> pan smoothly. So I'll stick with FSPViewer for the time being.
> Thanks for your effort trying to help!
> 
> with regards
> KFJ
> 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Automatic Control Point Editors And Panoramic Viewers

[Dale Beams]

My apologies.  PanoGLView does run under Ubuntu 10.10.  It does have
flashing artifacts, but it does run.

Dale


On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 05:24 -0700, kfj wrote:
> On 18 Okt., 12:06, Peter Suetterlin  wrote:
> > What is your trouble with PanoGLView?
> 
> I can't get it to run on my system. I've compiled it under Kubuntu
> 10.10, but when I call it, no matter whether with parameters or
> without, it just fails with this message:
> 
> The program 'panoglview' received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)'.
>   (Details: serial 345 error_code 9 request_code 137 minor_code 8)
>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported
> asynchronously;
>that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
>To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
>option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
>backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
> function.)
> 
> What system are you on?
> with regards
> KFJ
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[hugin-ptx] Automatic Control Point Editors And Panoramic Viewers

[Dale Beams]

What is the state of automatic control point editors available for hugin?  
Which ones are still being developed?  Which ones are considered defunct? 
Currently I see ...

Autopano-Sift-C
Match-N-Sift
MatchPoint
Panomatic
CPFind


What is the state of Panoramic Viewers?  Which ones are still being developed?  
I understand that FreePV is out of development because of a change in 
mozilla.  I've read on the list about issues with PanoGLView, though I 
don't recall issues with Ubuntu 10.04.Which ones are considered defunct? 
Currently I see ...


PanoGLView
FreePV
Panini
Pure JavaScript Viewer


  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Bob,

Thanks.  I did a comparison this afternoon of both.  You are correct.  I moved 
some time ago, and my previous experience hasn't caught up with current 
implementation.


Yuv,

Yes, I found these dependencies (libxi-dev, libxmu-dev) this afternoon after 
searching my bash history.  Thanks for finding them again and adding them to 
the wiki.  Sadly I neglected to put them into the wiki upon discovery the first 
time.  It's a good thing I was able to build the debs though, just think how 
useful they were to other people who weren't able to complete the build ealier. 
 :)

If there is no difference between apt-get and aptitude, let's change it to 
aptitude.  This is afterall the preferred ubuntu way, and we are building for 
ubuntu according to the wiki.

Sorry about the libwxgtk2.8-dev.  It appears I may have accidentally deleted it 
when moving things around trying to get it to fit on a smaller screen using the 
/ ... I'm glad you found it and fixed it.  I'm also glad I was able to 
contribute some of the other missing dependencies.

Thanks for explaining the hugin.hg.build.  I merely changed it to be consistent 
with the rest of the entries without realizing "build" was there for specific 
build numbers.  Perhaps we should add this explanation to the wiki.  Btw, if 
were not using autotools anymore, perhaps we can remove it?

I do intend to continue to distribute binaries.  They provide an option for 
those not wanting to build to use new features.  This is OSS, and that's what 
freedom is about.  Isn't it great!

Dale


> From: goo...@levy.ch
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:56:44 -0400
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> On October 16, 2010 06:10:22 pm Bob Bright wrote:
> > Dale: It doesn't matter whether you use aptitude or apt-get -- there's
> > no such package as 'wx-i18n'.  And as kfj has already noted, installing
> > wx2.8-i18n doesn't help with the build.
> > 
> > The missing dependency is in fact libwxgtk2.8-dev.  I've updated the
> > wiki accordingly.
> 
> thank you for fixing this.
> 
> libwxgtk2.8-dev was already on that page before Dale messed it up [0].
> 
> To be sure: I did a complete build from scratch of the latest default branch 
> on a new 10.10 install. I did identify two dependencies that were not 
> mentioned yet:  
> 
> libxi-dev
> libxmu-dev
> 
> I'll fix this and the other stuff later.
> 
> > On 10-10-15 09:39 AM, Dale Beams wrote:
> > > Have you tried building using aptitude.  Ubuntu's prefered way is
> > > first the software manager and then if needed aptitude.  Therefore I
> > > always use "sudo aptitude install some_package" as it's a more
> > > complete solution and will pick items that apt-get doesn't.  As a
> > > result I've only been adding those dependencies which have shown
> > > deficient in aptitude.
> 
> @Dale:  I find your activity to be spurious, random, conducive to confusion 
> at 
> best, and to damage otherwise.  Whether it is about build instructions or the 
> distribution of deb packages.  Would you please stop and validate with more 
> experienced contributors before moving ahead with your stuff?
> 
> As Bob said, it is not apt-get vs. aptitude.  To say it to you very directly: 
> IMHO it is your a*t*titude of not seeing that the problem is on your end that 
> makes things worse.  Exactly like when you were "comparing" Hugin to APPro.
> 
> For the Wiki page, all of your modifications in the past three weeks [0] have 
> been either destructive or unnecessary.  I will revert them all.
> 
> Can you explain to me:
> 
> 1. what is your point of adding the -p switch to the creation of a single 
> folder other than showing that you do not know what mkdir -p stands for? see 
> man mkdir
> 
> 2. what is your point of changing the naming convention for the build folder 
> from hugin.hg-build to hugin.build?  while it may seem a meaningless detail 
> to 
> you, you are screwing things up for people who are using multiple source 
> trees.  The convention used to write the document is that  is 
> built in -build, so hugin.hg is built in hugin.hg-build.
> 
> 3. last but not least, what is your point of fiddling with dependencies that 
> maybe do not work for you, but work perfectly well for others?  you removed 
> libwxgtk2.8-dev and replacing it with libwxbase2.8-dev and some unexisting 
> i18n causing unnecessary confusion.
> 
> Regarding the distribution of deb packages, you have been advised many times 
> that deb packages produced with CMake are inherently broken and not good for 
> distribution [2].  When 

RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Towards the bottom of the page is PanoGLView.  
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.10/20101015/panoglview_hg-20101014-1_i386.deb

There is also a javascript viewer located at 
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/jspanoviewer.html

I've had an exhausting week, and have decided to rest before i collapse.  I do 
know that hugin will build.  Make sure you have gettext and look through the 
list of wx stuff ... "sudo aptitude search wx"

Dale

> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:55:31 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Thanks for the advice. I couldn't help pottering with the sources, and
> I can't get rid of the feeling that something has changed in
> wxWidgets. I haven't managed to figure it out, but all the other
> builds that fail seem to also be stuck somewhere in the wx code.
> I'm using your 2010.3.0 build, so far without major problems, but I
> don't have anything on Kubuntu 10.10 to look at the panoramas now -
> all the viewers I tried won't compile either. I might have to run
> FSPViewer in a vboxed Windows. Any better suggestions?
> with regards
> KFJ
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 06:39 -0700, kfj wrote:
> On 14 Okt., 18:00, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Located it.  Needed dependency wx-i18n.  Updated wiki.
> ...
> > I use a VirtualBox vm with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 for both build
> > and installation.  My build and installations are clean.  Then I'll
> ...
> Hi Dale!
> 
> I tried to step in your footsteps and start on a clean system. Here's
> what I did: I set up a virtual box with Kubuntu 10.10, did minimal

I've been using aptitude.  Sometimes it pulls in more dependencies than
apt-get, or it used to.  Firefox was one of those that it did way back
when.

> modifications to it (like, install a few updates and the VB software)
> and then proceeded to, yet again, follow the wiki by the letter. I
> managed to build enfuse, enblend and libpano13, and I had to use
> KPackageKit to install a few packets, since I did not manage to do it
> all by just apt-get.
> 

I'm re-building today to determine what may be your problem.  It should
not however matter weather it's ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc.

In addition there are some directory creation issues with the current
branch.  Waiting won't hurt if you have a working hugin installation
until those get cleared up.

> When I tried to build hugin, I got precisely the same error as
> yesterday when I tried to build on my Kubuntu 10.10 upgraded from
> 10.4. [the bit when it tries to compile ImageCache.cpp]. I had half
> expected this since really there shouldn't be too much difference
> between an upgraded and a fresh one, but still it's a bummer... :(
> 
> Could it be a Kubuntu problem? Should I try with an out-of-the-box
> install of regular Ubuntu 10.10?
> 
> And would anyone be interested in the logs of my activities (bash
> history, recording of the sessions) - maybe they could help figuring
> out what goes wrong?
> 
> with regards
> KFJ
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:42 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> sudo dpkg -D -i some_package_name.deb

drbe...@ubuntu:~/src/enblend/enblend.build$ sudo dpkg -D -i
enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb 
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci'
Selecting previously deselected package enblend.
(Reading database ... 161758 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking enblend (from enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb) ...
D01: process_archive oldversionstatus=not installed
D02: maintainer_script_new nonexistent preinst
`/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst'
D10: tarobject ti->name='./usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1'
mode=100644 owner=1000.1000 type=48(-) ti->linkname=''
namenode='/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1' flags=2 instead=''
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1'
tmp=`/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-tmp'
new=`/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-new'
D000100: tarobject nonexistent
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting
`/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-new'
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting
`/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-tmp'
dpkg: error processing enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb (--install):
 unable to create `/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-new' (while
processing `./usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1'): No such file or
directory
D10: cu_installnew `/usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1' flags=2
D000100: setupvnamevbs main=`//usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1'
tmp=`//usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-tmp'
new=`//usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-new'
D000100: cu_installnew not restoring
D000100: unlinkorrmdir `//usr/local/share/man/man1/enfuse.1.dpkg-new'
rmdir No such file or directory
D02: maintainer_script_new nonexistent postrm
`/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm'
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci'
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting running rm -rf
D10: ensure_pathname_nonexisting `/var/lib/dpkg/reassemble.deb'
Errors were encountered while processing:
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Kornel,

On a clean system, after the *.deb is built, when attemtping to install
using the command

"sudo dpkg -i some_package_name.deb"

the package fails to install because it's unable to create the necessary
directories.  I've assumed this is a permissions problem.  I assume the
binary package (*.deb) isn't utilizing sudo permissions to create those
directories as it normally would.

I'm in the process of re-building and testing again this afternoon.

Dale



On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:03 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Freitag 15 Oktober 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > Kornel,
> > 
> > I use a VirtualBox vm with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 for both build
> > and installation.  My build and installations are clean.  Then I'll
> > normally install on my own system and post the binaries.
> > 
> > I posted early before doing complete testing for installation, in part as a
> > response to others who were trying to build.
> > 
> > I was able to get a successful build, following through the wiki.
> > 
> > Dale
> 
> Hi Dale,
> I only try to understand, what is going on here.
> If I understood it correctly
1. Won't install without manually creating directories it's complaining
about.
1a. Have not tested on upgraded system.  I use fresh installs for every
new ubuntu installation.
2. Makes no difference.  One still is required to manually create
directories.

I think that somewhere during the build, the package is not getting told
to use sudo access to create the proper destination directories and then
fails.  I assume this is a CMake issue?

Dale

>   1.) On a clean system one can create a package _and_ install it with no 
> problem
>   1a.) Package created on ubuntu 10.10 have problem when installing on 
> upgraded ubuntu
>   (One has first create a set of directories, before installation)
>   2.) Package created on not upgraded system install without problems 
> also on upgraded system
> 
> So the question is, what should we do to make package creation more robust.
> 
>   Kornel


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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Kornel,

I use a VirtualBox vm with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 for both build and 
installation.  My build and installations are clean.  Then I'll normally 
install on my own system and post the binaries.

I posted early before doing complete testing for installation, in part as a 
response to others who were trying to build.

I was able to get a successful build, following through the wiki.

Dale

From: kornel.be...@berlin.de
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:04:36 +0200





Am Freitag 15 Oktober 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> btw, thanks for the directories list.  I hadn't gotten all the way through
> it yet before I had to part to do something else.
> 
> Dale

Googling i found following:
...
>   INSTALL(FILES my_project.glade DESTINATION /usr/share/my_project)
> INSTALL(FILES my_project.png DESTINATION /usr/share/my_project)
> INSTALL(FILES my_project.desktop DESTINATION /usr/share/applications)

You use ABSOLUTE destination, this is known to be broken for many
CPack generator (including DEB, RPM and TGZ).
This should be fixed (for RPM and DEB) in the forthcoming 2.8.3 cmake 
release.
...
We are installing like:
INSTALL(FILES ... DESTINATION ${MANDIR}/man1)
and MANDIR _is_ set to
SET (MANDIR "$ENV{MANDIR}")
if environment MANDIR is set.
Is this so in your case?

Kornel
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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, CPFIND

[Dale Beams]

I'd like to use CPFind.  Upon building and installing hugin, i'm unable
to locate cpfind.

I understand cpfind is Pablo's implementation of a free CP detector.

I did build his implementation per the wiki, but have found i'm getting
conflicts in the install.

"trying to overwrite lib /usr/local/lib/liblocalfeatures.so which is
also in package hugin 2010.3.0

and then it aborts.

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

btw, thanks for the directories list.  I hadn't gotten all the way through it 
yet before I had to part to do something else.

Dale


> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:17:13 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> On 15 Okt., 15:50, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Specifically you need libwxbase2.8-dev and wx-i18n
> >
> 
> I have libwxbase2.8-dev installed and also wx2.8-i18n
> The wiki is wrong insofar as there is no 'wx-i18n' to be got by apt-
> get since it is a virtual packet which is made available by
>  wx2.8-i18n 2.8.11.0-0ubuntu4
>  wx2.6-i18n 2.6.3.2.2-5ubuntu1
> of which one is supposed to be chosen to be installed (please excuse
> my translation from german)
> 
> I also apt-got everything you mentioned on your download site on
> tatteredmoons, and I still can't get it to build.
> 
> Thanks for the .deb - it did need a lot of directories beforehand,
> though:
> 
> /usr/local/include/pano13/doc
> /usr/local/share/applications
> /usr/local/share/hugin
> /usr/local/share/hugin/data
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data/help_en_EN
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data/help_it_IT
> /usr/local/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes
> /usr/local/share/locale/bg/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ca_ES/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/cs_CZ/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/man/man1
> /usr/local/share/pixmaps
> 
> (I think that's all I had to mkdir...)
> 
> A first walk through hugin showed no grave problems. I'll keep using
> it and see what crops up, but I'd love to be able to  build myself.
> Hope the wx worries are sorted out soon ;)
> 
> with regards
> KFJ
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Have you tried building using aptitude.  Ubuntu's prefered way is first the 
software manager and then if needed aptitude.  Therefore I always use "sudo 
aptitude install some_package" as it's a more complete solution and will pick 
items that apt-get doesn't.  As a result I've only been adding those 
dependencies which have shown deficient in aptitude.

Dale






> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:17:13 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> On 15 Okt., 15:50, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Specifically you need libwxbase2.8-dev and wx-i18n
> >
> 
> I have libwxbase2.8-dev installed and also wx2.8-i18n
> The wiki is wrong insofar as there is no 'wx-i18n' to be got by apt-
> get since it is a virtual packet which is made available by
>  wx2.8-i18n 2.8.11.0-0ubuntu4
>  wx2.6-i18n 2.6.3.2.2-5ubuntu1
> of which one is supposed to be chosen to be installed (please excuse
> my translation from german)
> 
> I also apt-got everything you mentioned on your download site on
> tatteredmoons, and I still can't get it to build.
> 
> Thanks for the .deb - it did need a lot of directories beforehand,
> though:
> 
> /usr/local/include/pano13/doc
> /usr/local/share/applications
> /usr/local/share/hugin
> /usr/local/share/hugin/data
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data/help_en_EN
> /usr/local/share/hugin/xrc/data/help_it_IT
> /usr/local/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes
> /usr/local/share/locale/bg/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ca_ES/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/cs_CZ/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES
> /usr/local/share/man/man1
> /usr/local/share/pixmaps
> 
> (I think that's all I had to mkdir...)
> 
> A first walk through hugin showed no grave problems. I'll keep using
> it and see what crops up, but I'd love to be able to  build myself.
> Hope the wx worries are sorted out soon ;)
> 
> with regards
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Specifically you need libwxbase2.8-dev and wx-i18n

Dale


> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 06:42:48 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi!
> I'm stuck in the same place
> 
> >  63%] Building CXX object
> >  src/hugin1/base_wx/CMakeFiles/huginbasewx.dir/ImageCache.cpp.o
> >  ...
> 
> saw Dale's post
> 
> On 14 Okt., 18:00, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Located it.  Needed dependency wx-i18n.  Updated wiki.
> 
> ... so I tried to apt-get the package
> 
> k...@anja:~$ sudo apt-get install wx-i18n
> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
> Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
> Paket wx-i18n ist ein virtuelles Paket, das bereitgestellt wird von:
>   wx2.8-i18n 2.8.11.0-0ubuntu4
>   wx2.6-i18n 2.6.3.2.2-5ubuntu1
> Sie sollten eines explizit zum Installieren auswählen.
> 
> E: Paket »wx-i18n« hat keinen Installationskandidaten
> 
> ... no joy here, but a hint. tried instead to
> 
> k...@anja:~$ sudo apt-get install wx2.8-i18n
> 
> which installed a packet. But the problem did not go away :( what am I
> missing? Maybe you did something else which you didn't mention?
> hope to be up and running soon on Kubuntu 10.10 :)
> with regards
> KFJ
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

It's a wx issue.  I have fixed wiki.  You'll need some additional dependencies.

I've built some *.debs, and as always you'll find them at

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb

Fair warning.  Paths are not getting created, and am still working out the 
dependencies for installing to a new system.

Dale



> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 06:42:48 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
> From: _...@yahoo.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi!
> I'm stuck in the same place
> 
> >  63%] Building CXX object
> >  src/hugin1/base_wx/CMakeFiles/huginbasewx.dir/ImageCache.cpp.o
> >  ...
> 
> saw Dale's post
> 
> On 14 Okt., 18:00, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Located it.  Needed dependency wx-i18n.  Updated wiki.
> 
> ... so I tried to apt-get the package
> 
> k...@anja:~$ sudo apt-get install wx-i18n
> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
> Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
> Paket wx-i18n ist ein virtuelles Paket, das bereitgestellt wird von:
>   wx2.8-i18n 2.8.11.0-0ubuntu4
>   wx2.6-i18n 2.6.3.2.2-5ubuntu1
> Sie sollten eines explizit zum Installieren auswählen.
> 
> E: Paket »wx-i18n« hat keinen Installationskandidaten
> 
> ... no joy here, but a hint. tried instead to
> 
> k...@anja:~$ sudo apt-get install wx2.8-i18n
> 
> which installed a packet. But the problem did not go away :( what am I
> missing? Maybe you did something else which you didn't mention?
> hope to be up and running soon on Kubuntu 10.10 :)
> with regards
> KFJ
> 
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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, Autopano-Sift-C, 20101014

[Dale Beams]

Builds normally.  To install you'll need to create a directory.

sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/man/man7

Dale

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Located it.  Needed dependency wx-i18n.  Updated wiki.

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 10:51 -0500, Dale Beams wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 03:36 -0500, Dale Beams wrote:
> > Dependency added in wiki: libwxbase2.8-dev for hugin section
> > 
> 
> Hugin chokes on build.  I've been unable to locate the issue, but am
> still trying.  I've not yet began to dig into the cpp files yet.
> 
> Dale
> 
> ---
> 
> 
> [ 61%] Built target calibrate_lens
> [ 62%] Built target test_lensFunc
> [ 63%] Building CXX object
> src/hugin1/base_wx/CMakeFiles/huginbasewx.dir/ImageCache.cpp.o
> In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:23,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h: In constructor
> ‘wxBusyCursorSuspender::wxBusyCursorSuspender()’:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:65: error: ‘wxIsBusy’ was not declared
> in this scope
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:67: error: ‘wxBusyCursor’ has not been
> declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h: In destructor
> ‘wxBusyCursorSuspender::~wxBusyCursorSuspender()’:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:72: error: ‘wxIsBusy’ was not declared
> in this scope
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:74: error: ‘wxBusyCursor’ has not been
> declared
> In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:26,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
> wxRegionBase::Intersect(const wxRect&)’:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:251: error: invalid use of incomplete
> type ‘struct wxRegion’
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
> ‘struct wxRegion’
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
> wxRegionBase::Subtract(const wxRect&)’:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:256: error: invalid use of incomplete
> type ‘struct wxRegion’
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
> ‘struct wxRegion’
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
> wxRegionBase::Xor(const wxRect&)’:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:261: error: invalid use of incomplete
> type ‘struct wxRegion’
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
> ‘struct wxRegion’
> In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
>  from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,
> 
> from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h: At global scope:
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:82: error: field ‘font’ has incomplete
> type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:85: error: field ‘colFg’ has incomplete
> type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:89: error: field ‘colBg’ has incomplete
> type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:920: error: ‘wxUpdateUIEvent’ has not
> been declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1116: error: ‘wxSysColourChangedEvent’
> has not been declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1117: error: ‘wxInitDialogEvent’ has not
> been declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1118: error: ‘wxMouseEvent’ has not been
> declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1133: error: ‘WXWidget’ does not name a
> type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1135: error: ‘WXWidget’ has not been
> declared
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1230: error: field ‘m_cursor’ has
> incomplete type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1231: error: field ‘m_font’ has
> incomplete type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1232: error: field ‘m_backgroundColour’
> has incomplete type
> /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1233: error: field ‘m_fore

Re: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 03:36 -0500, Dale Beams wrote:
> Dependency added in wiki: libwxbase2.8-dev for hugin section
> 

Hugin chokes on build.  I've been unable to locate the issue, but am
still trying.  I've not yet began to dig into the cpp files yet.

Dale

---


[ 61%] Built target calibrate_lens
[ 62%] Built target test_lensFunc
[ 63%] Building CXX object
src/hugin1/base_wx/CMakeFiles/huginbasewx.dir/ImageCache.cpp.o
In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:23,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h: In constructor
‘wxBusyCursorSuspender::wxBusyCursorSuspender()’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:65: error: ‘wxIsBusy’ was not declared
in this scope
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:67: error: ‘wxBusyCursor’ has not been
declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h: In destructor
‘wxBusyCursorSuspender::~wxBusyCursorSuspender()’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:72: error: ‘wxIsBusy’ was not declared
in this scope
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:74: error: ‘wxBusyCursor’ has not been
declared
In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:26,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
wxRegionBase::Intersect(const wxRect&)’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:251: error: invalid use of incomplete
type ‘struct wxRegion’
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
‘struct wxRegion’
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
wxRegionBase::Subtract(const wxRect&)’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:256: error: invalid use of incomplete
type ‘struct wxRegion’
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
‘struct wxRegion’
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h: In member function ‘bool
wxRegionBase::Xor(const wxRect&)’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/region.h:261: error: invalid use of incomplete
type ‘struct wxRegion’
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/gdicmn.h:38: error: forward declaration of
‘struct wxRegion’
In file included from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/toplevel.h:21,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/frame.h:19,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/generic/splash.h:17,
 from /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/splash.h:15,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/panoinc_WX.h:55,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.h:29,

from /home/user/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/base_wx/ImageCache.cpp:27:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h: At global scope:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:82: error: field ‘font’ has incomplete
type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:85: error: field ‘colFg’ has incomplete
type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:89: error: field ‘colBg’ has incomplete
type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:920: error: ‘wxUpdateUIEvent’ has not
been declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1116: error: ‘wxSysColourChangedEvent’
has not been declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1117: error: ‘wxInitDialogEvent’ has not
been declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1118: error: ‘wxMouseEvent’ has not been
declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1133: error: ‘WXWidget’ does not name a
type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1135: error: ‘WXWidget’ has not been
declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1230: error: field ‘m_cursor’ has
incomplete type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1231: error: field ‘m_font’ has
incomplete type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1232: error: field ‘m_backgroundColour’
has incomplete type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1233: error: field ‘m_foregroundColour’
has incomplete type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:1240: error: field ‘m_updateRegion’ has
incomplete type
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:562: error: ‘wxNavigationKeyEvent’ has
not been declared
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h: In member function ‘const wxRegion&
wxWindowBase::GetUpdateRegion() const’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:761: error: ‘m_updateRegion’ was not
declared in this scope
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h: In member function ‘wxRegion&
wxWindowBase::GetUpdateRegion()’:
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/window.h:762: error: ‘m_updateRegion’ was not
declared in this scope
/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx

[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin

[Dale Beams]

Dependency added in wiki: libwxbase2.8-dev for hugin section

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, LibPano13-2.9.17

[Dale Beams]

S

The solution for now is to create the directories manually.

sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/man/man1/
sudo mkdir /usr/local/include/pano13/doc/
sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig

Dale

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 02:23 -0500, Dale Beams wrote:
> The same problem?  Explain.
> 
> Enblend installed ok.
> 
> Dale
> 
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 09:11 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 14 Oktober 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > > dpkg: error processing libpano13-2.9.17-Linux.deb (--install):
> > >  unable to create `/usr/local/share/man/man1/PTuncrop.1.dpkg-new' (while
> > > processing `./usr/local/share/man/man1/PTuncrop.1'): No such file or
> > > directory
> > > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> > > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > 
> > It is the same problem, as we have with enblend, hugin, libpano13
> > 
> > Kornel
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, LibPano13-2.9.17

[Dale Beams]

The same problem?  Explain.

Enblend installed ok.

Dale

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 09:11 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 14 Oktober 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > dpkg: error processing libpano13-2.9.17-Linux.deb (--install):
> >  unable to create `/usr/local/share/man/man1/PTuncrop.1.dpkg-new' (while
> > processing `./usr/local/share/man/man1/PTuncrop.1'): No such file or
> > directory
> > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> 
> It is the same problem, as we have with enblend, hugin, libpano13
> 
>   Kornel
> 


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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.10, LibPano13-2.9.17

[Dale Beams]

New Ubuntu 10.10 install into virtualbox.  Following instructions per
Hugin Ubuntu build: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu

Appears man files are missing for PTuncrop


u...@ubuntu:~/src/libpano13/libpano13.build$ cmake ../libpano13.svn
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local -DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=ON \
>-DCPACK_BINARY_NSIS:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_STGZ:BOOL=OFF \
>-DCPACK_BINARY_TBZ2:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TGZ:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_TZ:BOOL=OFF
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Found TIFF: /usr/lib/libtiff.so
-- Found JPEG: /usr/lib/libjpeg.so
-- Found ZLIB: /usr/include
-- Found PNG: /usr/lib/libpng.so
-- found version = 2.9.17
-- svnversion = /usr/bin/svnversion
-- Found Perl: /usr/bin/perl
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written
to: /home/user/src/libpano13/libpano13.build
u...@ubuntu:~/src/libpano13/libpano13.build$ make package
Scanning dependencies of target man
[  0%] Built target man
Scanning dependencies of target pano13
[  1%] Building C object CMakeFiles/pano13.dir/javastub.c.o
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Autopano-sift-c: better distribution of control points

[Dale Beams]

Pablo's CPFind (or whatever it's currently called) works well.  I've got
mixed signals from devs.  Not sure if it's in the current hugin branch
or if it still needs to be built separately.

If you want a Patent free ACPD I'd suggest using it, or building it from
source.  I've been using it exclusively recently.

Dale

On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 18:00 +0200, Bernd Hohmann wrote:
> On 12.10.2010 17:48, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > as far as i can tell, autopano-sift-c is too slow, too inaccurate, and
> > no one wants to work on it because some barbarians decided it was a
> > good idea to patent it.
> 
> Beside the patent issue: if a new controlpoint generator would need 6 
> hours to create something ready-to-go i'd use it because currently I 
> need 6 hours to create them by hand on advanced panoramas.
> 
> > so my advice would be to wait for something better to come along :-)
> > probably very soon :-)
> 
> Need betatester *fg*
> 
> Bernd
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Problem with installing hugin

[Dale Beams]

Begin by 

"dpkg -p enblend"

Purge your old hugin installation first.

Dale






> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:48:01 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Problem with installing hugin
> From: sennai...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hey peeps,
> 
> First of all thanks to all the people who worked on the latest
> release, well done!
> 
> I have been trying to build from source according to wiki instructions
> on a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10. Every thing goes smoothly until I
> try to install the packages at which point I get this type of error
> (this is for enblend):
> 
> sennai...@sennaista-desktop:~/src/enblend/enblend.build$ sudo dpkg --
> install enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb
> (Reading database ... 175186 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Preparing to replace enblend 4.0+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (using enblend-4.1.1-
> Linux.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement enblend ...
> dpkg: error processing enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb (--install):
>  unable to create `/usr/local/share/man/man1/enblend.1.dpkg-
> new' (while processing `./usr/local/share/man/man1/enblend.1'): No
> such file or directory
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  enblend-4.1.1-Linux.deb
> 
> Libpano returns a similar error. Any idea what could be wrong?
> 
> Thanks
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin eats up to 12Gb of RAM and freezes system

[Dale Beams]

I'd start hugin from a command line.   This might give some clue as to what's 
happening.  Or use strace.  This is of course if you can get to a term session 
on F4.

I'd expect to have new *deb binaries sometime this afternoon.  Ubuntu 10.04.  
Debian users have used them with success.

An alternative is to try 
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100915/20100915.html.  
Purge your other hugin debs b4 u do.

I tried your three pics on my system, and they worked great.  I haven't tried 
your procedure, but I'll try that later today.

Dale


> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:43:38 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin eats up to 12Gb of RAM and freezes system
> From: mateusz.ka...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> 1) Align those images
> 2) When I want to create panorama in a linear form it works
> 3) Go to preview GL
> 4) Go to projection and change it to Stereographic
> 5) Go to move tab
> 6) Make move the projection so it will create a half sphere.
> 7) Close preview window
> 8) Create panorama again in Assistant Tab
> 
> This eats all memory with nona in both CPU or GPU variants.
> Hard reboot is needed.
> 
> On Oct 10, 3:01 pm, Andreas Metzler 
> wrote:
> > Mateusz  wrote:
> > > Sorry,
> > > This is not a projection I am trying to make.
> > > nona freezes my system with those three files.
> > > I also managed to make a linear assemble of my images, however when I
> > > turn projection in preview to stereographic and I move a bit ONLY
> > > image on axis (without moving those sliders at bottom and left) and
> > > then I try to make panorama it just eats all my swap and all RAM.
> > > For me this is bug of nona which is included in hugin package.
> > > I am attaching project file.
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/web/DSC0767-DSC0775-fail.pto
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > When I open this pto file and use "Stitch Now" nona works without
> > problem.
> >
> > I do not completely understand "I move a bit ONLY image on axis". I
> > tried this:
> > open Fast Preview (OpenGL)
> > switch to the "Move/Drag" Tab
> > click into the image and pull a little bit to the left
> > go back to hugin Stitcher tag. [Stitch Now]. No problem.
> >
> > thanks cu andreas
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[hugin-ptx] hugin-ptx

[Dale Beams]

I'm not sure who needs to contact who, but about 12 messages a day from
hugin-ptx is getting flagged as Junk with Microsoft Hotmail Web service.

I'd say about half is getting flagged as Junk and your Hotmail users are
not seeing them.

I first noticed this on my own account when I saw replies for messages
that I never received the original e-mail with.

I've tested this with a new account with the defaults that MS Hotmail
uses.

Sooo, someone from the "official" Hugin teams should contact hotmail and
notify them that hugin-ptx is a valid mailing list.

Dale

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: New mosaic mode tutorial - and Crash!

[Dale Beams]

Having saved the *.pto file, close Hugin and re-start it from the
command line.  You can see what type of errors are happening that is
preventing you from stitching.

I'm not sure what OS platform your using, but when this has occurred in
the past on *buntu, it's been because of a missing dependency.

Dale

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 13:49 +0100, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to have a look at this great mosaic mode by doing the tutorial
> example.  For this, I compiled the current HG version (cae898bcf89e).
> 
> Compiled fine, and I could load the files, define masks, optimize etc.  
> 
> Then I tried to optimize exposure (well, give it a try, isn't it?) but this
> caused a segfault :-(
> 
> So I re-started, same steps just without exposure, everything fine. But
> when I wanted to stich - nothing happened!  The file dialog poped up, I
> entered a name, and that was it.  No further output or action...
> 
> Not wanting to manually re-do things once more, I decided to first save the
> pto file.  Bad idea:
> 
>   terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
> what():  A MakefileItem was removed before the Makefile::writeMakefile()
> was   called.
>   This is likely to be a programming error (out of scope?)
>   Aborted
> 
> A pto file was created, which looks fine to me, but the .mk file has zero
> length
> 
> Anything I can/should do to track this down?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   Pit
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: cpfind Segmentation fault

[Dale Beams]

I assume this is the name settled upon and we can use it for binary
naming convention?

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 22:09 -0700, Tduell wrote:
> Hullo Dale,
> 
> On Sep 30, 1:20 pm, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > What is CPFind?
> 
> The patent free control point generator available in the current
> trunk.
> 
> Cheers,
> Terry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] cpfind Segmentation fault

[Dale Beams]

What is CPFind?

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 00:18 -0300, Jim Watters wrote:
> I can run cpfind on jpeg images but if i run it on tif I get a Segmentation 
> fault in the middle of --- Find matches ---
> The tiffs are 16 bit.
> I am running it with  cpfind -o ~/out.pto --minmatches 1 stitch.pto
> version: Hugins cpfind Pre-Release 2010.3.0.c8cb55368a09
> 
> Is there something I can try to get it to work with tiffs?  Is there anymore 
> information I can provide that might help with this?
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie

[Dale Beams]

Yuv,

Making false accusations is poor etiquette.  APPro Trial won't let you save 
back the CP's.  Please read the e-mails carefully  before you make a decision 
to respond.



> Last but not least, the one feedback I had for you:  If you are using 
> Autopano 
> Pro trial to generate your CPs, the morally right thing to do is to buy an 
> Autopano Pro license.  I don't think that a trial is meant to be circumvented 
> the way you are doing, even if it is possible and it works.  Ultimately, what 
> you do is your decision and I don't judge you.  I am just stating what I 
> would 
> be doing if I was you.  And I do have a paid Autopano Pro license (which I 
> don't use).
  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie

[Dale Beams]

Yuv,

APPro beats Hugin in alignment hands down.  There is no contest there.  It 
matters not what CP detector one uses (with exception of GeoDiasy (untested)).  
Feed it the same images from two different directories so there is no 
contamination, and APPro comes out on top every time.

In truth, if APPro exports a file in a format Hugin is able to read, it would 
be benficial to use APPro first for CP detection and alignment Hugin for fine 
tuning the alignment with the use of manual CP and then use smartblend or 
enblend to "brush out" unwanted areas.

Hugin has a problem with feature creep.  Normally one sees OSS projects with 
this issue after it address it's core objective.  In truth, Hugin met it's 
initial objective (0.7.x) but for whatever reason which users don't understand 
and don't have the programming experience to examine code, Hugin isn't 
currently accomplishing this goal.  I've tested it and posted my results to the 
list.

btw, I use ubuntu,  built my own LFS system in 2003, had some introduction to 
C++ programing in college, wrote some interesting scripts, worked on OS400 CISC 
to RISC conversions, etc. and enjoye a good GUI.  I sit between worlds, 
user/tester/dev/  I'm an oldie who doesn't need to prove anything, but would 
enjoy just using the software.

Dale


> From: goo...@levy.ch
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:06:12 -0400
> 
> Hi Emad,
> 
> On September 25, 2010 02:09:49 am Emad ud din Btt wrote:
> > First I load images into Autopano Pro Trial and get this first image in
> > very less time. Than I export its PTO file. Load it in hugin and its final
> > image is still intact or pre-alligned. Autopano removes CPs. I manually
> > add more CPs or sometimes I dont have to add any Cp. It works. Hugin
> > really takes hours for my 5 row panoramas for first image and still it
> > produces strange results.
> 
> why the whole workarounds?  if Autopano Pro (APP) is useful to you, you 
> should 
> consider buying a license.
> 
>  
> > My intention is not to do comparison but to highlight this bug/issue.
> 
> I have not run APP in a while (and not in trial mode anyway, I did buy a 
> license), so I am not sure if you are using Hugin's optimizer based on APP's 
> CPs, or if you are feeding into Hugin an already optimized project from APP 
> and only using Hugin (actually: Enblend) to blend it.
> 
> If you want to use Hugin throught the process, you need to understand what 
> goes wrong where in your process.
> 
> Start by running CP generation from Hugin.  Don't optimize yet.  Don't use 
> the 
> wizard tab.  Look in the CP tab (where you enter CPs manually) and check if 
> the generated CPs are plausible.
> 
> Next step is the optimization.  Open the Fast Preview before running the 
> optimization and check if the positioning of the pictures in the Fast Preview 
> looks plausible.
> 
> I am pretty sure that it is not a bug with Hugin, but rather an issue with 
> your process - wether it is one of the tools that is not configured well (CP 
> detector); or an input that is missing, I can bet you that if APP aligns it, 
> a 
> properly configured and operated Hugin can align it too.
> 
> Yuv
  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] building hugin 2010.2.0 with minGW

[Dale Beams]

what is collateral?

On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 07:03 -0700, kfj wrote:
> collateral

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Film

[Dale Beams]

I grew up with a [Minolta SRT101] 
Camera, a [MC Rokkor - PF 1:14] 
Lens and a [MC Tele Rokkor - PF 1:28] Telephoto



> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:26:32 +0200
> From: c...@einem.net
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Film
> 
> If you want to stitch scans you also have to optimize for g and t (hor. 
> and vert. shear).
> 
> Shoot color negative film and scan the frames with 16 bit.
> 
> My workflow with a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 (and the SA-30 film roll 
> feeder) includes SilverFast (silverfast.com) scan software, but you 
> should also try VueScan (hamrick.com). I first batch scan the complete 
> film roll to SilverFast's HDR tiff format and generate all needed frames 
> of my panorama with the same setting. Very similar to a digital RAW 
> workflow, a little bit more time consuming though ;-)
> 
> What camera / lens do you use?
> 
> I have a Zeiss Ikon SW together with a Voigtländer 12 mm rectilinear 
> lens. Good for hiking or snowboarding as it's a really compact setup.
> 
> Carl
> 
> Dale Beams schrieb am 23.09.10 11:37:
> > I've been considering going back to film for some time.  Film holds no
> > EXIF data. I know there are tutorials on gauging FOV, etc. Are there any
> > other "gotchas"?
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
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[hugin-ptx] Film

[Dale Beams]

I've been considering going back to film for some time.  Film holds no EXIF 
data.  I know there are tutorials on gauging FOV, etc.  Are there any other 
"gotchas"?

Dale




  

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin-2010.2.0_rc1 released

[Dale Beams]

/me is having the same problem with file overwrites.  particularly in the batch 
tab.  expected behavior would be to ask for filename b4 saving to batch and 
stitch.  often i'll try to produce multiple versions of the same pano to see 
what the end result is.

D


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:29:13 +0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin-2010.2.0_rc1 released
From: hvdw...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com



2010/9/22 Bruno Postle 


I've been away for a few days. Is there any reason why this release candidate 
shouldn't be released as 'final' 2010.2.0?
-- 

Bruno


It's OK with me as well. Some users (incl. myself)  reported some issues with 
overwriting existing pano files. When specifying another name (=create, not 
overwrite) it works fine. Annoying but workable.

I worked on that for the past few days which is reported in the bugtracker [1] 
as I filed a bug for it.

As it's not fatal at all I'm OK to go for a release a well.

Harry





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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Some thoughts on working with mosaic mode

[Dale Beams]

Let me re-phrase.  What is the translation option mean?

Dale


> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:29:36 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Some thoughts on working with mosaic mode
> From: tdu...@iinet.net.au
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hullo Dale,
> 
> On Sep 20, 11:05 am, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Speaking of translations, what is the new translations options on the 
> > optimizer menu?  For this sort of thing, not for standard panos?
> 
> The basic one is 'Positions and Translation (y,p,r,x,y,z)', and
> thereafter any that include 'Translation'.
> 
> Cheers,
> Terry
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Some thoughts on working with mosaic mode

[Dale Beams]

Speaking of translations, what is the new translations options on the optimizer 
menu?  For this sort of thing, not for standard panos?

Dale






> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:11:08 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Some thoughts on working with mosaic mode
> From: tdu...@iinet.net.au
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hullo Yuv,
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 6:35 am, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > On September 8, 2010 02:02:40 am Tduell wrote:
> >
> > > I have spent a bit of time lately trying to get a good understanding
> > > of how to work with mosaic mode, all aimed at putting together a
> > > tutorial for the 2010.2 release.
> >
> > thanks for sharing your experience.  I built on it [0].
> 
> Good.
> I have found that most projects I have tackled since have worked OK
> without any of the complexity...pretty much as per a normal pano, just
> load images, add control points, optimise positions and translations
> and all done.
> The approach I previously described seemed to be the only way to make
> any progress with Bruno's project, but I haven't had another like it.
> You should put a link to your tutorial on the Hugin web page.
> 
> Cheers,
> Terry
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Non controlpoints found for 1 image of 9?

[Dale Beams]

Anybody know if Pablo's variation of panomatic will do fisheye's?  I've found 
his version to be reasonably good at finding control points

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:38:43 -0600
Subject: [hugin-ptx] Non controlpoints found for 1 image of 9?
From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Hi all,

I have 8 images around and 1 (fisheye) straight up.
All images are aligned in Fast Preview.

Autopano-SIFT-C finds lots of controlpoints between the 8 images around, but 
none between the fishey and the 8 images.


Why?
Do I need to change hugin preferences anyhow?
If so how?

Thanks,
Jan





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[hugin-ptx] Ubuntu 10.04 Hugin Build - 20100915

[Dale Beams]

New build for Ubuntu can be found here:

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb

This build is based upon source from 20100915

Dale

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RE: [hugin-ptx] New tutorial, creating gores for assembling globes

[Dale Beams]

Would love to do this with a philosphere


> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:11:00 -0700
> From: bbbri...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] New tutorial, creating gores for assembling globes
> 
> Nice tutorial, Bruno -- thanks!  One of my youngsters is busy taping 
> together a globe at this very moment.
> 
> Attached is a hugin template that will speed things up for those 
> interested in trying your technique.  To use it, create a new hugin 
> project, and load 12 copies of your equirectangular image.  Select "File 
>  > Apply Template" and choose gores.pto.  Switch to the "Stitcher" tab, 
> change the output width if you desire, and hit "Stitch now!".  That's 
> all there is to it.  Print your images, and go find some scissors and 
> tape. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> BBB
> 
> 
> 
> On 10.09.12 02:21 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:
> > I was asked again how to do this.  So here is a tutorial for the 
> > technique I used for making real inflatable spheres of panoramic images:
> >
> > http://wiki.panotools.org/Creating_Gores
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

It appears there is a problem.  It's looking for those packages
specifically by number when trying to install.



u...@ubuntu:~/src/hugin/hugin.build$ sudo dpkg -i
hugin-2010.3.0-Linux.deb 
(Reading database ... 195430 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace hugin 2010.3.0 (using hugin-2010.3.0-Linux.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement hugin ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of hugin:
hugin depends on libpost2c2; however:
  Package libpost2c2 is not installed.
hugin depends on libglew (>= 1.5); however:
  Package libglew is not installed.
hugin depends on libboost-filesystem (>= 1.38.0); however:
  Package libboost-filesystem is not installed.
dpkg: error processing hugin (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
hugin
u...@ubuntu:~/src/hugin/hugin.build$ sudo aptitude search libpost2c2
libglew libboost-filesystem
i   libboost-filesystem-dev
- filesystem operations in C++ (default
version)
i A libboost-filesystem1.40-dev
- filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories,
etc) in C++
i A libboost-filesystem1.40.0
- filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories,
etc) in C++
v   libglew-dev
-   

i A libglew1.5
- The OpenGL Extension Wrangler - runtime
environment   
i   libglew1.5-dev
- The OpenGL Extension Wrangler - development
environment   
v   libglewmx-dev
-   

p   libglewmx1.5
- The OpenGL Extension Wrangler - runtime
environment   
p   libglewmx1.5-dev
- The OpenGL Extension Wrangler - development environment

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 18:07 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote: 
> On September 13, 2010 05:07:00 pm Dale Beams wrote:
> > This should work provided the >= is the lowest common denominator.  For
> > example, if your system is at (>= 0.2.0) and mine has 0.2.2 then it
> > should check and say it's ok to install.
> 
> that's what I would expect too.  Let's try it, and if it does not work we can 
> roll back to no dependency specified at all.  It does work for RPMs, though...
> 
> Yuv



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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

This should work provided the >= is the lowest common denominator.  For
example, if your system is at (>= 0.2.0) and mine has 0.2.2 then it
should check and say it's ok to install.

Dale

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 22:46 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Montag 13 September 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > Reviewing CMakeLists.txt, I've noticed:
> > 
> > SET(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libpano13(>=2.9.17), libpost2c2,
> > libglew(>=1.5), freeglut3, libboost-filesystem(>=1.38.0), liblcms1,
> > libopenexr6, libtiff4")
> > 
> > Which appears to set debian package dependencies at >= for certian
> > packages.  I assume this can be set for all packages negating the need
> > to hard set any package dependencies and guaranteeing that the build
> > would work so long as the system had >= package. Correct?
> 
> Not exactly. This _are_ the hardcoded (for now) package dependencies. Not 
> sure about debian.
> (All of them but libpost2c2 are on my system, but not exactly)
> Therefore I had now problem to use this package. This is what I had to do 
> locally, inserting _my_ dependencies:
>   SET(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "freeglut3 (>= 
> 2.6.0-0),libatlas3gf-base (>= 3.6.0-24),libboost-date-time1.38.0 (>= 
> 1.38.0-6),libboost-thread1.38.0 (>= 1.38.0-6),libexiv2-6 (>= 
> 0.19-1),libglew1.5 (>= 1.5.2-0),libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1-4.1),libpano13 (>= 
> 2.9.17),libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.10.1-0)")
> 
> As I somewhere said, this looks totally system-dependent. I don't know, how 
> to overcome this.
> 
> Yuv, maybe we should go back again, until there is some automated method in 
> cmake itself. This hard-coding
> looks not promising for me.
> 
>   Kornel


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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Reviewing CMakeLists.txt, I've noticed:

SET(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libpano13(>=2.9.17), libpost2c2,
libglew(>=1.5), freeglut3, libboost-filesystem(>=1.38.0), liblcms1,
libopenexr6, libtiff4")

Which appears to set debian package dependencies at >= for certian
packages.  I assume this can be set for all packages negating the need
to hard set any package dependencies and guaranteeing that the build
would work so long as the system had >= package. Correct?

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 19:18 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Montag 13 September 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > Earlier I had indicated using echo from a script to read in the
> > dependencies.  Someone mentioned that this would not work?  Is this
> > because of the location of the line in the CMakeLists.txt?
> 
> It was me.
> 1.) Location
> 2.) Syntax
> 
> > I'd have to dig around for the e-mail, but someone indicated that
> >

Since most of Hugin programmers are using scripts to build for testing,
I'd assume that "-DCPACK_BINARY_PACKAGE-TYPE:BOOL=off" could be set for
the default for all packages and then the FAQ could be simplified by
removing:

cmake ../apsc.hg -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local
-DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=ON \
   -DCPACK_BINARY_NSIS:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_STGZ:BOOL=OFF \
   -DCPACK_BINARY_TBZ2:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TGZ:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_TZ:BOOL=OFF

and replacing it with
"cmake ../program.hg -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local
-DCPACK_BINARY_PACKAGE-TYPE:BOOL=on"

for each individual build, simplifying that build instruction to one
line in the FAQ?

I assume the reason it builds all package-types now is a programming
default?

Dale

> > -DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=off/on could be set by default within the
> > CMakeLists.txt file and then we'd only need to issue the line for the
> > particular type of build we were doing, rather than a long list of
> > BOOL=off
> 
> Defaults are set in CPack.cmake in _your_ system if not specified by us.
> We have to know package management prior to setting our default.
> 
> > libboost-filesystem (& -system) is indicated as optional, but issues
> > errors about boost filesystem all the way through the build and
> > afterwards during program use about boost not being found.  is
> > (filesystem & system) truly optional, and if so, is there a way to
> > squelch the error and confirm that the build is in fact finding boost?
> 
> True, this looks like it were not optional.
> For enblend we should make them required.
> 
>   Kornel


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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Earlier I had indicated using echo from a script to read in the
dependencies.  Someone mentioned that this would not work?  Is this
because of the location of the line in the CMakeLists.txt?

I'd have to dig around for the e-mail, but someone indicated that 

-DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=off/on could be set by default within the
CMakeLists.txt file and then we'd only need to issue the line for the
particular type of build we were doing, rather than a long list of
BOOL=off

libboost-filesystem (& -system) is indicated as optional, but issues
errors about boost filesystem all the way through the build and
afterwards during program use about boost not being found.  is
(filesystem & system) truly optional, and if so, is there a way to
squelch the error and confirm that the build is in fact finding boost?

Dale

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 18:36 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Montag 13 September 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > I'm getting ready to build this afternoon.  Where are we at for CMake?
> > Questions are ...
> > 
> > 1. Does CMake determine the min dependency, and can evaluate and confirm
> > the correct one without hardsetting version numbers for the
> > dependencies?
> 
> No
> 
> > 2. Can -DCPACK ... RPM=on be turned off by default?  This would
> > alleviate a lot of cruft from the build instructions
> 
>  If we could automatically determine the package management of the build 
> system, then yes.
> It should not be that difficult though. On the other side, cmake itself 
> should give us the info ...
> 
> > 3. While I'm only concerned about Ubuntu, because it is a *.deb package,
> > are debain requirements being set up correctly?
> 
> No. The requirements depend on the build-system, so they cannot be hardcoded. 
> It's always possible to have them wrong.
> I could prepare something for ubuntu 10.4 64bit, or debian unstable, or ..., 
> I would not expect they would fit perfect on all systems.
> 
> > 4. How do these changes affect other distro packaging systems, such as
> > RPM, etc.
> 
> They do not affect other distros.
> 
> > Dale
> > 
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:25 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, 12. September 2010 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> > > > On September 11, 2010 06:04:34 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > > > Am Samstag 11 September 2010 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> > > > > > On September 9, 2010 06:29:31 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > > > > > It should be (at a proper place)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   set(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libpost2c2, libglew1.5,
> > > > > > >   freeglut3,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > libboost-filesystem1.40.0, liblcms1, libopenexr6, libtiff4") but
> > > > > > > before the line)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   INCLUDE(CPack)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > done!  I neded a changeset to test tweaking to the email
> > > > > > notifications from the repo.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmmm, it was meant only as a correction of syntax for a proposal from
> > > > > Dale. I did not want to say, the values are correct :(
> > > > > 
> > > > > So for instance for me it is libboost-filesystem1.38.0 and not
> > > > > libboost-filesystem1.40.0. This depends on the build-system
> > > > > unfortunately.
> > > > 
> > > > fixed.  there is a syntax for version numbers.  Refernce [0]
> > > 
> > > OK
> > > 
> > > > I have the impression that our CMake build is still incomplete and
> > > > maybe Andreas want to chime in with his expertise?
> > > > 
> > >  :)
> > >  :
> > > > * right now we do not set CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE - how are
> > > > 32bit packages distinguished form 64bit packages? should we set
> > > > CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE, and if yes how?
> > > 
> > > I would say not needed, but we could name the package accordingly.
> > > ( CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE is set automatically through "dpkg
> > > --print-architecture")
> > > 
> > > > * for the dependencies it seems to be on CMake's TODO list to automate
> > > > 'objdump -p | grep NEEDED' - can this be scripted / integrated in our
> > > > CMake build?
> > > 
> > > Yes, we could. I fear, the list would be somehow lengthy this way. Is
> > > this script already available s

Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

I'm getting ready to build this afternoon.  Where are we at for CMake?
Questions are ...

1. Does CMake determine the min dependency, and can evaluate and confirm
the correct one without hardsetting version numbers for the
dependencies?

2. Can -DCPACK ... RPM=on be turned off by default?  This would
alleviate a lot of cruft from the build instructions

3. While I'm only concerned about Ubuntu, because it is a *.deb package,
are debain requirements being set up correctly?

4. How do these changes affect other distro packaging systems, such as
RPM, etc.

Dale



On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:25 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 12. September 2010 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> > On September 11, 2010 06:04:34 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > Am Samstag 11 September 2010 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> > > > On September 9, 2010 06:29:31 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > > > It should be (at a proper place)
> > > > > 
> > > > >   set(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libpost2c2, libglew1.5, 
> > > > > freeglut3,
> > > > > 
> > > > > libboost-filesystem1.40.0, liblcms1, libopenexr6, libtiff4") but 
> > > > > before
> > > > > the line)
> > > > > 
> > > > >   INCLUDE(CPack)
> > > > 
> > > > done!  I neded a changeset to test tweaking to the email notifications
> > > > from the repo.
> > > 
> > > Hmmm, it was meant only as a correction of syntax for a proposal from 
> > > Dale.
> > > I did not want to say, the values are correct :(
> > > 
> > > So for instance for me it is libboost-filesystem1.38.0 and not
> > > libboost-filesystem1.40.0. This depends on the build-system unfortunately.
> > 
> > fixed.  there is a syntax for version numbers.  Refernce [0]
> 
> OK
> 
> > I have the impression that our CMake build is still incomplete and maybe 
> > Andreas want to chime in with his expertise?
> 
>  :)
> 
> > * right now we do not set CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE - how are 32bit 
> > packages distinguished form 64bit packages? should we set 
> > CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE, and if yes how?
> 
> I would say not needed, but we could name the package accordingly.
> ( CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE is set automatically through "dpkg 
> --print-architecture")
> 
> > * for the dependencies it seems to be on CMake's TODO list to automate 
> > 'objdump -p | grep NEEDED' - can this be scripted / integrated in our CMake 
> > build?
> 
> Yes, we could. I fear, the list would be somehow lengthy this way. Is this 
> script already available somewhere?
> 
> > * we do not set the maintainer, which is Debian-mandatory. 
> > CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_MAINTAINER
> 
> We do, in setting CPACK_PACKAGE_CONTACT
> 
> > * we do not set the description, which is Debian-mandatory too.  
> > CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DESCRIPTION - what does the description say in your 
> > official packages, Andreas?  maybe we should copy it rather than reinvent 
> > the 
> > wheel?
> 
> We should set CPACK_PACKAGE_DESCRIPTION_SUMMARY
> 
> > * what can/should we do with the recommended fields (section / priority / 
> > recommends / suggests / control extra) ?
> 
> I would say, it's ok as it is.
> 
> > * Anything else I am missing on the way to a proper Debian package out of 
> > CMake?
> 
> I had no problems with our package, neither with rpm nor with debian 
> packaging, so
> I don't see the missings ...
> 
> > Yuv
> > 
> > [0] 
> > http://www.paraview.org/Wiki/CMake:CPackPackageGenerators#DEB_.28UNIX_only.29
> > 
> 
> kornel


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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Andreas,

Could you point me to that document.

Dale






> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> From: ametz...@downhill.at.eu.org
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:56:44 +0200
> 
> Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > On September 9, 2010 01:06:15 pm Andreas Metzler wrote:
> [...]
> >> Just for clarification: "Proper" Debian source packages also do this
> >> automatically. This is just cmake's broken idea of builing a debian
> >> format package.
> 
> > do you mean that our CMake build is incomplete? or that CMake can't build 
> > proper debian packages?
> [...]
> 
> Hello,
> 
> afaik from the results (see e.g.
> http://mid.gmane.org/kdsci7-dqm@argenau.downhill.at.eu.org or
> discussions on debian-devel) the latter. The results seem to be
> similar to what one would if he tried building rpms using cpio instead
> of rpm. The breakage that actually seems to cause pain is that package
> dependencies are incorrect or missing. (Even using alien to convert
> the rpm would give better results in this respect).
> 
> One of or probably the strongest point of Debian is that we have a
> policy that describes in great detail how packages must look like to
> make it possible that the packages work together and upgrade
> correctly. cmake built packages seem to ignore many parts of it.
> 
> cu andreas
> -- 
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> so grateful to you.'
> `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'
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RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

In the hugin ubuntu build tutorial, there are a lot of "...DEB=off" or 
something similar.  I understand that by defualt this can be set to off and 
would make things simpler.  It would only be one line, "...DEB=on" or 
"...RPM=on"

Dale






> From: goo...@levy.ch
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:42:30 -0400
> 
> On September 11, 2010 06:04:34 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Samstag 11 September 2010 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> > > On September 9, 2010 06:29:31 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > > It should be (at a proper place)
> > > > 
> > > > set(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libpost2c2, libglew1.5, 
> > > > freeglut3,
> > > > 
> > > > libboost-filesystem1.40.0, liblcms1, libopenexr6, libtiff4") but before
> > > > the line)
> > > > 
> > > > INCLUDE(CPack)
> > > 
> > > done!  I neded a changeset to test tweaking to the email notifications
> > > from the repo.
> > 
> > Hmmm, it was meant only as a correction of syntax for a proposal from Dale.
> > I did not want to say, the values are correct :(
> > 
> > So for instance for me it is libboost-filesystem1.38.0 and not
> > libboost-filesystem1.40.0. This depends on the build-system unfortunately.
> 
> fixed.  there is a syntax for version numbers.  Refernce [0]
> 
> I have the impression that our CMake build is still incomplete and maybe 
> Andreas want to chime in with his expertise?
> 
> * right now we do not set CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE - how are 32bit 
> packages distinguished form 64bit packages? should we set 
> CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_ARCHITECTURE, and if yes how?
> 
> * for the dependencies it seems to be on CMake's TODO list to automate 
> 'objdump -p | grep NEEDED' - can this be scripted / integrated in our CMake 
> build?
> 
> * we do not set the maintainer, which is Debian-mandatory. 
> CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_MAINTAINER
> 
> * we do not set the description, which is Debian-mandatory too.  
> CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DESCRIPTION - what does the description say in your 
> official packages, Andreas?  maybe we should copy it rather than reinvent the 
> wheel?
> 
> * what can/should we do with the recommended fields (section / priority / 
> recommends / suggests / control extra) ?
> 
> * Anything else I am missing on the way to a proper Debian package out of 
> CMake?
> 
> Yuv
> 
> [0] 
> http://www.paraview.org/Wiki/CMake:CPackPackageGenerators#DEB_.28UNIX_only.29
  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

This may be because the default Ubuntu 10.04 install has libtiff4
libpeonexr6 liblcms1 are installed already.  The entire list those as
you located would include everything.  I suspect this is a better way,
in the event one is building for a earlier release

I'm guessing you have a better idea what needs to be done.

I'm swamped at work and am doing this very slowly on the side.

Dale


/* Enblend  */
cd ~/src/enblend
hg clone http://enblend.hg.sourceforge.net:8000/hgroot/enblend/enblend
enblend.hg
cd ~/src/enblend/enblend.build
echo "CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS="libpost2c2 libglew1.5 freeglut3
libboost-filesystem1.40.0 liblcms1 libopenexr6 libtiff4"" >>
CMakeList.txt
cmake ../enblend.hg -DENABLE_GPU:BOOL=ON -DENABLE_IMAGECACHE:BOOL=OFF
-DENABLE_OPENMP:BOOL=ON \
  -DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=ON -DCPACK_BINARY_NSIS:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=OFF \
  -DCPACK_BINARY_STGZ:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TBZ2:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_TGZ:BOOL=OFF \
  -DCPACK_BINARY_TZ:BOOL=OFF
make package
sudo dpkg -i enblend*.deb
cp *.deb ~/deb/hugin

On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 20:47 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> 
> Interesting. My script gives me
> freeglut3 (>= 2.6.0-0),\
> libboost-filesystem1.38.0 (>= 1.38.0-6),\
> libglew1.5 (>= 1.5.2-0),libgomp1 (>= 4.4.3-4),\
> liblcms1 (>= 1.18.dfsg-1),\
> libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1-4.1),\
> libplot2c2 (>= 2.6-0),\
> libtiff4 (>= 3.9.2-2)
> ==> 7 dependencies for enblend/enfuse 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Sorry,

This is my problem, published the e-mail before fixing the web link.

This will work now.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/fasttrack.sh

It's incomplete and untested

Dale


On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 20:47 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 09 September 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > I'm glad the subject came up.
> > 
> > I was going to request some info added to CMakeLists.txt.  I noticed that
> > libboost-fielsystem-x is mentioned in enblend as optional, but upon
> > building it states boost has failed.  I'm not sure if there is another
> > check or if the syntax/routine is incorrect and it's not responding with
> > the correct message.  Morever, when building later, and upon using Hugin,
> > I get boost not installed as well.  If libboost-filesystem and
> > libboost-system is optional it would be nice to leave it out of a bare
> > bones build as it drags in a lot of "junk".  There is also a section in
> > enblend about RPM, etc. that is not in the others.  Not sure if should
> > have been there across all CMakeLists.txt.
> 
> I created a perl script to extract the list of needed packages for a given 
> list of executables.
> But it takes some looong time to do its job, therefore not applicable to 
> automatically execute.
> 
> The algorithm is following:
>   1.) determine all used shared libraries (parse output of "ldd 
> {executable}")
>   2.) determine to which package they belong (parse output of "dpkg -S 
> {library}")
>   3.) determine prerequisites of each package (parse output of "dpkg -s 
> {package}")
>   4.) remove each package which is already a prerequisite of another 
> package
>   5.) print the list of remaining packages
> 
> > I noticed the CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS="libpano13" in the hugin
> > CMakeLists.txt a couple of weeks ago and was going to suggest doing this
> > for enblend as well but have been so busy with work I've not been able to
> > get around to it.
> 
> Yes, enblend/enfuse needs this too :(
> 
> > I think the build instructions on the web is wonderful and don't think I
> > could have put them togather myself.  I'd like to clean them up, as well
> > as possible create seperate pages for seperate releases (ie, 9.04, 9.10). 
> > Or at least for the supported releases from Ubuntu.  One of the things I
> > noticed is that not all dependenices are listed the further you move down
> > the list, but assumed because they've been already installed previously
> > for other builds.  However this presents a problem for builds such as
> > PanoGLViewer, etc.
> > 
> > I've also began stepping through each build to determine if every
> > dependenciy is needed during the build, during the installation, and what
> > it belongs to.  For example, Enblend only needs four dependencies to
> > install after the build.
> 
> Interesting. My script gives me
>   freeglut3 (>= 2.6.0-0),\
>   libboost-filesystem1.38.0 (>= 1.38.0-6),\
>   libglew1.5 (>= 1.5.2-0),libgomp1 (>= 4.4.3-4),\
>   liblcms1 (>= 1.18.dfsg-1),\
>   libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1-4.1),\
>   libplot2c2 (>= 2.6-0),\
>   libtiff4 (>= 3.9.2-2)
> ==> 7 dependencies for enblend/enfuse
> 
> > The build instructions also list packages that I don't believe are being
> > maintaned or used anymore.  Matchpoint, FreePV, etc.  Perhaps those should
> > be moved to a section "Archived, No longer maintained.  Autotools is
> > another section that should be archived imho.
> > 
> > I've attached a "fasttrack" build script.  It's incomplete, but should be
> > uniform.  I'd planned on introducing dependencies previous modification of
> > the CMakeLists.txt by "echo CMAKE_DEBIAN ... etc >> CMakeLists.txt"
> > (syntax is not correct but you get the idea).
> 
> The list has to be known before calling CPack ...
> 
> > I'd  eventually liked to get a very streamlined set of build instructions
> > for each Ubuntu release, a fast track build script so that there is less
> > confusion.  There are several comments that have been returned to me that
> > I'm trying to address
> > 
> > 1. Hugin is anything but simple to use.
> > 2. There's no way I'm going to try to build that, it looks to complicated. 
> > Do you have binaries? 3. Where can I find how to do this or that?
> > 
> > I looked on wikipedia on the math behind a simple equalateral (spelling?)
> > projection and finally got a real understanding of the complexity of the

RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

I'm glad the subject came up.

I was going to request some info added to CMakeLists.txt.  I noticed that 
libboost-fielsystem-x is mentioned in enblend as optional, but upon building it 
states boost has failed.  I'm not sure if there is another check or if the 
syntax/routine is incorrect and it's not responding with the correct message.  
Morever, when building later, and upon using Hugin, I get boost not installed 
as well.  If libboost-filesystem and libboost-system is optional it would be 
nice to leave it out of a bare bones build as it drags in a lot of "junk".  
There is also a section in enblend about RPM, etc. that is not in the others.  
Not sure if should have been there across all CMakeLists.txt.

I noticed the CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS="libpano13" in the hugin 
CMakeLists.txt a couple of weeks ago and was going to suggest doing this for 
enblend as well but have been so busy with work I've not been able to get 
around to it.

I think the build instructions on the web is wonderful and don't think I could 
have put them togather myself.  I'd like to clean them up, as well as possible 
create seperate pages for seperate releases (ie, 9.04, 9.10).  Or at least for 
the supported releases from Ubuntu.  One of the things I noticed is that not 
all dependenices are listed the further you move down the list, but assumed 
because they've been already installed previously for other builds.  However 
this presents a problem for builds such as PanoGLViewer, etc.

I've also began stepping through each build to determine if every dependenciy 
is needed during the build, during the installation, and what it belongs to.  
For example, Enblend only needs four dependencies to install after the build.

The build instructions also list packages that I don't believe are being 
maintaned or used anymore.  Matchpoint, FreePV, etc.  Perhaps those should be 
moved to a section "Archived, No longer maintained.  Autotools is another 
section that should be archived imho.

I've attached a "fasttrack" build script.  It's incomplete, but should be 
uniform.  I'd planned on introducing dependencies previous modification of the 
CMakeLists.txt by "echo CMAKE_DEBIAN ... etc >> CMakeLists.txt" (syntax is not 
correct but you get the idea). 

I'd  eventually liked to get a very streamlined set of build instructions for 
each Ubuntu release, a fast track build script so that there is less confusion. 
 There are several comments that have been returned to me that I'm trying to 
address

1. Hugin is anything but simple to use.
2. There's no way I'm going to try to build that, it looks to complicated.  Do 
you have binaries?
3. Where can I find how to do this or that?

I looked on wikipedia on the math behind a simple equalateral (spelling?) 
projection and finally got a real understanding of the complexity of the math 
behind Hugin and releated programs.  I realize it's no easy task, nor is it an 
easy task building tutorials, workflow, etc.  Add to that most people work for 
a living and what does get's posted is done with precious spare time.  I'm 
really looking for a way to simplify understanding, installation, building for 
an average desktop user.

Dale

Fast Track Script - http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/fasttrack.sh

> From: kornel.be...@berlin.de
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:05:17 +0200
> 
> Am Donnerstag 09 September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din Btt:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Many Thanks Dale and Kornel. Yes, It was fresh Ubuntu installation.
> > I have updated it and Hugin is now working. I will update you if I get any
> > error.
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > >  Emaad,
> > > 
> > > You'll also need:
> > > 
> > > sudo aptitude install libwxbase2.8-0
> > > 
> 
> We should add this dependencies for debian in CMakeLists.txt. (RPM does this 
> automatically!) But I fear, the list may be too long, and it depends on how
> hugin is built. On my system (ubuntu 10.04, 64bit) it would be (line 513):
> ...
>   set(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "freeglut3 (>= 
> 2.6.0-0),libatlas3gf-base (>= 3.6.0-24),libboost-date-time1.38.0 (>= 
> 1.38.0-6),libboost-thread1.38.0 (>= 1.38.0-6),libexiv2-6 
> (>=0.19-1),libglew1.5 
> (>= 1.5.2-0),libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1-4.1),libpano13 (>= 2.9.17),libwxgtk2.8-0 
> (>= 2.8.10.1-0)")
> ...
> 
> Maybe some statements like e.g.
> 
> if(wxWidgets_FOUND)
>   sett(CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS "libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 
> 2.8.10.1-0),${CPACK_DEBIAN_PACKAGE_DEPENDS}")
> endif()
> 
> etc.
> 
>  

RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Emaad,

You'll also need:

sudo aptitude install libwxbase2.8-0

Dale

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:47:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
From: xyzt...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

hi,

I have tried and found this result

em...@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/hugin
ááá linux-gate.so.1 =>á (0x003b6000)
ááá libhuginbase.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbase.so.0.0 (0x003b7000)
ááá libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 (0x0011)

ááá libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 
(0x00dab000)
ááá libpano13.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libpano13.so.2 (0x0024f000)
ááá liblapack.so.3gf => /usr/lib/liblapack.so.3gf (0x00fcf000)

ááá libblas.so.3gf => /usr/lib/libblas.so.3gf (0x00125000)
ááá libGLEW.so.1.5 => /usr/lib/libGLEW.so.1.5 (0x00de2000)
ááá libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 
(0x00bd3000)

ááá libImath.so.6 => /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 (0x001a2000)
ááá libIlmImf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 (0x002ea000)
ááá libIex.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 (0x001a8000)
ááá libHalf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 (0x001c1000)

ááá libIlmThread.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 (0x00205000)
ááá libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x0020d000)
ááá libtiff.so.4 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0x00c2f000)
ááá libpng12.so.0 => /lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00bae000)

ááá libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x0022e000)
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 (0x00f78000)
ááá libceleste.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libceleste.so.0.0 (0x00c8a000)

ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00caf000)
ááá libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00d2)

ááá libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00f4c000)
ááá libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00d85000)
ááá libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00e2e000)
ááá libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00dbc000)

ááá libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x177b2000)
ááá libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00f55000)
ááá libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00dcc000)
ááá libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x18dc1000)

ááá libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x0e1b9000)
ááá libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0632)
ááá libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0x1d3cf000)
ááá libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x211ff000)

ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá librt.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0x00243000)
ááá libgfortran.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgfortran.so.3 (0x1b5da000)
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x003ad000)
ááá libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00d9e000)
ááá libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00da2000)
ááá libdrm.so.2 => /lib/libdrm.so.2 (0x00f6c000)

ááá libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x00dda000)
ááá libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00fa7000)
ááá libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x1fc1f000)
ááá libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x0c656000)

ááá /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00fb2000)
ááá libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00dde000)
ááá libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00fac000)





On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:

Emaad,



I'm interested in knowing what the command line says after you've

started hugin there as Kornel has suggested.



Dale



On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 02:59 -0700, Emad ud din Btt wrote:

> I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App > Graphics

>

> But when I click on it there is no response.

>

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt 

> wrote:

> á á á á When I run this I get following message on Terminal...With Red

> á á á á 

RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Emaad,

You need to:

sudo aptitude install libwxgtk2.8-0 libexiv2-6

Was this on a new system of Ubuntu 10.04?

Dale

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:47:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
From: xyzt...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

hi,

I have tried and found this result

em...@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/hugin
ááá linux-gate.so.1 =>á (0x003b6000)
ááá libhuginbase.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbase.so.0.0 (0x003b7000)
ááá libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 (0x0011)

ááá libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 
(0x00dab000)
ááá libpano13.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libpano13.so.2 (0x0024f000)
ááá liblapack.so.3gf => /usr/lib/liblapack.so.3gf (0x00fcf000)

ááá libblas.so.3gf => /usr/lib/libblas.so.3gf (0x00125000)
ááá libGLEW.so.1.5 => /usr/lib/libGLEW.so.1.5 (0x00de2000)
ááá libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 
(0x00bd3000)

ááá libImath.so.6 => /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 (0x001a2000)
ááá libIlmImf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 (0x002ea000)
ááá libIex.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 (0x001a8000)
ááá libHalf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 (0x001c1000)

ááá libIlmThread.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 (0x00205000)
ááá libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x0020d000)
ááá libtiff.so.4 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0x00c2f000)
ááá libpng12.so.0 => /lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00bae000)

ááá libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x0022e000)
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 (0x00f78000)
ááá libceleste.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libceleste.so.0.0 (0x00c8a000)

ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00caf000)
ááá libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00d2)

ááá libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00f4c000)
ááá libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00d85000)
ááá libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00e2e000)
ááá libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00dbc000)

ááá libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x177b2000)
ááá libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00f55000)
ááá libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00dcc000)
ááá libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x18dc1000)

ááá libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x0e1b9000)
ááá libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0632)
ááá libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0x1d3cf000)
ááá libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x211ff000)

ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá librt.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0x00243000)
ááá libgfortran.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgfortran.so.3 (0x1b5da000)
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x003ad000)
ááá libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00d9e000)
ááá libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00da2000)
ááá libdrm.so.2 => /lib/libdrm.so.2 (0x00f6c000)

ááá libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x00dda000)
ááá libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00fa7000)
ááá libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x1fc1f000)
ááá libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x0c656000)

ááá /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00fb2000)
ááá libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00dde000)
ááá libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00fac000)





On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:

Emaad,



I'm interested in knowing what the command line says after you've

started hugin there as Kornel has suggested.



Dale



On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 02:59 -0700, Emad ud din Btt wrote:

> I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App > Graphics

>

> But when I click on it there is no response.

>

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt 

> wrote:

> á á á á When I run this I get following m

RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Emaad,

When you start hugin from the command line, what does it say?

Meet up on IRC?  irc.freenode.net , channel #hugin ?

Dale

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:47:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
From: xyzt...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

hi,

I have tried and found this result

em...@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/hugin
ááá linux-gate.so.1 =>á (0x003b6000)
ááá libhuginbase.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbase.so.0.0 (0x003b7000)
ááá libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 (0x0011)

ááá libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 => /usr/lib/libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 
(0x00dab000)
ááá libpano13.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libpano13.so.2 (0x0024f000)
ááá liblapack.so.3gf => /usr/lib/liblapack.so.3gf (0x00fcf000)

ááá libblas.so.3gf => /usr/lib/libblas.so.3gf (0x00125000)
ááá libGLEW.so.1.5 => /usr/lib/libGLEW.so.1.5 (0x00de2000)
ááá libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 
(0x00bd3000)

ááá libImath.so.6 => /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 (0x001a2000)
ááá libIlmImf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 (0x002ea000)
ááá libIex.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 (0x001a8000)
ááá libHalf.so.6 => /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 (0x001c1000)

ááá libIlmThread.so.6 => /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 (0x00205000)
ááá libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x0020d000)
ááá libtiff.so.4 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0x00c2f000)
ááá libpng12.so.0 => /lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00bae000)

ááá libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x0022e000)
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 (0x00f78000)
ááá libceleste.so.0.0 => /usr/local/lib/libceleste.so.0.0 (0x00c8a000)

ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00caf000)
ááá libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00d2)

ááá libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00f4c000)
ááá libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00d85000)
ááá libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00e2e000)
ááá libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00dbc000)

ááá libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x177b2000)
ááá libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00f55000)
ááá libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00dcc000)
ááá libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x18dc1000)

ááá libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x0e1b9000)
ááá libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0632)
ááá libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0x1d3cf000)
ááá libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x211ff000)

ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá librt.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0x00243000)
ááá libgfortran.so.3 => /usr/lib/libgfortran.so.3 (0x1b5da000)
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libexiv2.so.6 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 => not found
ááá libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 => not found

ááá libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x003ad000)
ááá libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00d9e000)
ááá libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00da2000)
ááá libdrm.so.2 => /lib/libdrm.so.2 (0x00f6c000)

ááá libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x00dda000)
ááá libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00fa7000)
ááá libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x1fc1f000)
ááá libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x0c656000)

ááá /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00fb2000)
ááá libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00dde000)
ááá libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00fac000)





On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:

Emaad,



I'm interested in knowing what the command line says after you've

started hugin there as Kornel has suggested.



Dale



On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 02:59 -0700, Emad ud din Btt wrote:

> I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App > Graphics

>

> But when I click on it there is no response.

>

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt 

> wrote:

> á á á á When I run this I ge

Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

Emaad,

I'm interested in knowing what the command line says after you've
started hugin there as Kornel has suggested.

Dale

On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 02:59 -0700, Emad ud din Btt wrote:
> I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App > Graphics
> 
> But when I click on it there is no response.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt 
> wrote:
> When I run this I get following message on Terminal...With Red
> fonts
> 
> em...@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -L hugin | egrep bin/hugin
> /usr/local/bin/hugin_stitch_project
> /usr/local/bin/hugin_hdrmerge
> /usr/local/bin/hugin
> 
> I have checked /usr/local/bin directory. All files are there.
> But I dont understand whats the reason of red font.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kornel Benko
>  wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din
> Butt:
> 
> > It displays whole llist of files. But where is hugin
> GUI? I have to manually
> > add a shortcut or it will be auto added into Apps
> list?
> 
> 
> Try
># dpkg -L hugin | egrep bin/hugin
> 
> The name is "hugin", so I would expect
> "/usr/local/bin/hugin".
> 
> 
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Kornel Benko
> wrote:
> >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din
> Butt:
> > > > Hi Dale,
> > > >
> > > > Many thanksI have downloaded .deb files.
> Double clicked and it opened
> > > in
> > > > package manager.
> > > >
> > > > I first installed dependencies using Terminal
> > > > Than I install Base Install i.e. enblend,
> libpano and than hugin.
> > > > Than I insalled image exif, panoglow etc.
> > > > Than sudo Idconfig
> > > >
> > > > All installed perfectly and it is shown in
> package manager. But where can
> > > i
> > > > find hugin. Its not being shown in applications.
> I have tried to open it
> > > > from /usr/local/bin/hugin but no response. How
> can I fix it? I am using
> > > > ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386
> > > >
> > > >
> > > If everything is installed, you may check with
> > ># dpkg -L hugin
> > > to get the list of all installed files.
> > >
> > >Kornel
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Emaad
> www.flickr.com/emaad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Emaad
> www.flickr.com/emaad
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu

[Dale Beams]

I've made a general location for the latest.  I build once a month, but used to 
do it once a week, and may return to that.  I've also developed a fast track 
script that will build it for you in a virtualbox or otherwise.  It's nice and 
simple and readable so everybody knows what's going on.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb

That address will get you the latest build.  I always make an effort to test 
before posting new binaries.  If you find a problem, drop me a note, I don't 
always get everything perfect.

Currently I'm trying to echo in a line to CMakeLists.txt that will have the 
dependencies when the build is made, without requiring somebody to know how to 
install dependencies.

Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:00:46 +0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
From: hvdw...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Emad,
 
Take a look at Dale Beams builds at 
http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100901/20100901.html
 
Harry



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Re: [hugin-ptx]

[Dale Beams]

Jan,

>From time to time I do something terrible to my system and have to
re-install portions of it.  After the re-install, I too began to have
the same error.

After starting geodaisy from the command line, it was apparent I failed
to include the dependency libvigraimpex2ldbl in the list.  After
installing this dependency, I think you should be ok.

Dale

On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:57 +0200, Jan Martin wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I also got this error:
> 
> Command: /usr/local/bin/geodaisy --sieve1size 100 --sieve2size 2
> -o /tmp/ap_resA4cUbr  "/home/me/Panoramas/hugin-test/LIMG_0009.JPG"
> "/home/me/Panoramas/hugin-test/RIMG_0009.JPG"
> failed with error code: 127
> 
> I noticed this very same error is mentioned on the list. 
> Is there a solution yet?
> 
> Jan
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Dale Beams 
> wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> I've not had problem with exiv2.  I've yet to do a test
> install in clean vm, but plan to do so on my next build.
> 
> Your e-mail prompted me to check the page, and I've since then
> corrected the page.  You should now see the ldconfig as well
> as Image-ExifTool as well.  I thought Ubuntu had a default
> exiftool-perl something however.
> 
> I've been having problems with enblend, when using aptitude it
> wants to uninstall it, requiring me to re-install it upon
> every system update.  I've not tracked down the problem yet,
> but intend to.  I'd watch this.  I'm not sure what's causing
> it.
> 
> After further reading your e-mail, I don't think this is
> related, but nonetheless i'll look at it at the office.
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:01:02 +0200
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
> From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Yes, "sudo ldconfig" solves this.
> 
> Also one needs to install exiv2.
> And exiftool, but thats not even in the repository?
> How to do this?
> 
> When clicking "Stitch Now!" I got:
> Programm enblend not found in preferences, reverting to
> default value.
> Programm enfuse not found in preferences, reverting to default
> value.
> 
> But seems to work:
> 
> Checking nona...[OK]
> Checking enblend...[OK]
> Checking enfuse...[OK]
> Checking hugin_hdrmerge...[OK]
> Checking exiftool...[FAILED]
> nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i
> 0 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
> nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i
> 1 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
> enblend --compression 85 -w -f4136x2068 -o 1.jpg 1.tif
> 10001.tif 
> enblend: info: loading next image: 1.tif 1/1
> enblend: info: loading next image: 10001.tif 1/1
> ...
> 
> Btw, is the text above saved somewhere? 
> Would be helpful.
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Dale Beams
>  wrote:
> sudo ldconfig
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:20:21 +0200
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
> From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I really appreciate you doing this for Ubuntu 10.4
> 
> All installed well, all dependencies met, but when
> running I get this error:
> 
> m...@ubuntu:~$ hugin
> hugin: error while loading shared libraries:
> libhuginbase.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file:
> No such file or directory
> 
> What's missing?
> 
> Jan
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Dale Beams
>  wrote:
>

Re: [hugin-ptx]

[Dale Beams]

Jan,

This is an error due to the options selected in preferences.  Try
multi-row or another option for type and see if this corrects it.

On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:57 +0200, Jan Martin wrote:
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I also got this error:
> 
> Command: /usr/local/bin/geodaisy --sieve1size 100 --sieve2size 2
> -o /tmp/ap_resA4cUbr  "/home/me/Panoramas/hugin-test/LIMG_0009.JPG"
> "/home/me/Panoramas/hugin-test/RIMG_0009.JPG"
> failed with error code: 127
> 
> I noticed this very same error is mentioned on the list. 
> Is there a solution yet?
> 
> Jan
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Dale Beams 
> wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> I've not had problem with exiv2.  I've yet to do a test
> install in clean vm, but plan to do so on my next build.
> 
> Your e-mail prompted me to check the page, and I've since then
> corrected the page.  You should now see the ldconfig as well
> as Image-ExifTool as well.  I thought Ubuntu had a default
> exiftool-perl something however.
> 
> I've been having problems with enblend, when using aptitude it
> wants to uninstall it, requiring me to re-install it upon
> every system update.  I've not tracked down the problem yet,
> but intend to.  I'd watch this.  I'm not sure what's causing
> it.
> 
> After further reading your e-mail, I don't think this is
> related, but nonetheless i'll look at it at the office.
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:01:02 +0200
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
> From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> Yes, "sudo ldconfig" solves this.
> 
> Also one needs to install exiv2.
> And exiftool, but thats not even in the repository?
> How to do this?
> 
> When clicking "Stitch Now!" I got:
> Programm enblend not found in preferences, reverting to
> default value.
> Programm enfuse not found in preferences, reverting to default
> value.
> 
> But seems to work:
> 
> Checking nona...[OK]
> Checking enblend...[OK]
> Checking enfuse...[OK]
> Checking hugin_hdrmerge...[OK]
> Checking exiftool...[FAILED]
> nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i
> 0 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
> nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i
> 1 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
> enblend --compression 85 -w -f4136x2068 -o 1.jpg 1.tif
> 10001.tif 
> enblend: info: loading next image: 1.tif 1/1
> enblend: info: loading next image: 10001.tif 1/1
> ...
> 
> Btw, is the text above saved somewhere? 
> Would be helpful.
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Dale Beams
>  wrote:
> sudo ldconfig
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:20:21 +0200
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
> From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I really appreciate you doing this for Ubuntu 10.4
> 
> All installed well, all dependencies met, but when
> running I get this error:
> 
> m...@ubuntu:~$ hugin
> hugin: error while loading shared libraries:
> libhuginbase.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file:
> No such file or directory
> 
> What's missing?
> 
> Jan
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Dale Beams
>  wrote:
> New deb's built for hugin.
> 
> 
> http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100901/20100901.html
> 
>

RE: [hugin-ptx]

[Dale Beams]

Jan,

I've not had problem with exiv2.  I've yet to do a test install in clean vm, 
but plan to do so on my next build.

Your e-mail prompted me to check the page, and I've since then corrected the 
page.  You should now see the ldconfig as well as Image-ExifTool as well.  I 
thought Ubuntu had a default exiftool-perl something however.

I've been having problems with enblend, when using aptitude it wants to 
uninstall it, requiring me to re-install it upon every system update.  I've not 
tracked down the problem yet, but intend to.  I'd watch this.  I'm not sure 
what's causing it.

After further reading your e-mail, I don't think this is related, but 
nonetheless i'll look at it at the office.

Dale






Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:01:02 +0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Yes, "sudo ldconfig" solves this.

Also one needs to install exiv2.
And exiftool, but thats not even in the repository?
How to do this?

When clicking "Stitch Now!" I got:
Programm enblend not found in preferences, reverting to default value.

Programm enfuse not found in preferences, reverting to default value.

But seems to work:

Checking nona...[OK]
Checking enblend...[OK]
Checking enfuse...[OK]
Checking hugin_hdrmerge...[OK]
Checking exiftool...[FAILED]

nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 0 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
nona  -z PACKBITS  -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 1 /tmp/huginpto_hFuBz6
enblend --compression 85 -w -f4136x2068 -o 1.jpg 1.tif 10001.tif 
enblend: info: loading next image: 1.tif 1/1

enblend: info: loading next image: 10001.tif 1/1
...

Btw, is the text above saved somewhere? 
Would be helpful.

Jan


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:






sudo ldconfig






Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:20:21 +0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com


Hi Dale,

I really appreciate you doing this for Ubuntu 10.4

All installed well, all dependencies met, but when running I get this error:

m...@ubuntu:~$ hugin
hugin: error while loading shared libraries: libhuginbase.so.0.0: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory



What's missing?

Jan

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:







New deb's built for hugin.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100901/20100901.html



Comments welcome.




  





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RE: [hugin-ptx]

[Dale Beams]

sudo ldconfig






Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:20:21 +0200
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx]
From: janmar...@diy-streetview.org
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Hi Dale,

I really appreciate you doing this for Ubuntu 10.4

All installed well, all dependencies met, but when running I get this error:

m...@ubuntu:~$ hugin
hugin: error while loading shared libraries: libhuginbase.so.0.0: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory


What's missing?

Jan

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Dale Beams  wrote:






New deb's built for hugin.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100901/20100901.html


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[hugin-ptx]

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New deb's built for hugin.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100901/20100901.html

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu, Enblend & Boost

[Dale Beams]

Oops, forgot the link

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642528&referrerid=480148

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu, Enblend & Boost

[Dale Beams]

Specifically for the Ubuntu install a compilation of responses to return
messages.

OpenGL/gl.h, etc are for MacOSx binaries in the same way that windows.h
is for windows binaries.  Ubuntu uses GL/gl.h.  This info is refrenced
here:

The Ubuntu build FAQ does not require freeglut* as a dependency during
build, as I suspect aptitude is taking care of it (however I do install
all the dependencies for the entire page [FreePV] at once before
building and now realize I'll need to step through each build
independently), pulling it in from another dependency for enblend,
specifically libglut3-dev

libboost-filesystem-dev was specifically needed to quiet the error
messages and for the enblend build to find boost.

On a side note, I located the option to pull in dependencies for each
*.deb in one of the CMake files (Hugin iirc).

There are inconsistencies in the CMAKE files that appear should have
been uniform for each one.  I'll address that in a separate e-mail.

In short, I'm only dealing with Ubuntu install, specifically the latest
release of ubuntu (which in this case is 10.04) as well as the latest
trunk for each binary (enblend, hugin, etc.).


On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:34 -0700, Tduell wrote:
> Hullo Dale,
> 
> On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Needed libboost-filesystem-dev
> >
> > OpenGL/gl.h OpenGL/glu.h & OpenGL/glut.h are mac code, safe to ignore
> > like the windows.h
> 
> Are you saying you are sure you can ignore...or hoping?
> My guess is that they probably are needed.
> Here, building for Fedora13, freeglut-devel is needed. Worth checking
> to see if there is an equivalent for Ubuntu.
> 
> Cheers,
> Terry
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu, Enblend & Boost

[Dale Beams]

Needed libboost-filesystem-dev

OpenGL/gl.h OpenGL/glu.h & OpenGL/glut.h are mac code, safe to ignore
like the windows.h


On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 05:45 -0500, Dale Beams wrote:
> > -- Boost was not found, but is helpfull to compile
> 
> 
> 
> > From: kornel.be...@berlin.de
> > To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Ubuntu, Enblend & Boost
> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:21:38 +0200
> > 
> > Am Dienstag 17 August 2010 schrieb Dale Beams:
> > > When building EnBlend for Ubuntu, I've noticed that it indicates
> Boost
> > > as found and then not found. There are other errors, but I believe
> they
> > > are safe to ignore. The boost error however I wasn't sure.
> Checking
> > > the dependencies, it appears boost is there, however I wonder if
> the
> > > right boost package has been installed.
> > > 
> > > -- Found Perl: /usr/bin/perl
> > > -- Could NOT find Boost
> > > -- Could NOT find Boost
> > > -- Boost_LIBRARIES =
> > > -- Boost filesystem library found:
> > > -- Boost system library found:
> > > -- Disabling Boost filesystem support
> > > -- Boost was not found, but is helpfull to compile
> > > -- Found ZLIB: /usr/include
> > > 
> > > -- Looking for pthread_create in pthreads - not found
> > > -- Looking for C++ include GLUT/glut.h - not found
> > > -- Looking for C++ include OpenGL/glu.h - not found
> > > -- Looking for C++ include OpenGL/gl.h - not found
> > > -- Looking for C++ include windows.h - not found
> > > -- Performing Test HAVE_SYS_NDIR_H - Failed
> > > 
> > > -- Boost_FOUND = FALSE
> > > 
> > > Dale
> > 
> > I do not see the message about boost-found.
> > It should look like:
> > -- Boost_LIBRARIES
> = /usr/lib/libboost_system-mt.so;/usr/lib/libboost_filesystem-mt.so
> > 
> > Kornel
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kornel Benko
> > kornel.be...@berlin.de
> 
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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Jilted Ceilings

[Dale Beams]

I'm glad 0.7.x came up in the discussion.  I've been doing some regression 
testing (downloading back releases of ubuntu and their hugin releases) and 
tried 0.7.x beta on 8.04.  The result was much better than the current one.  
I've just began to move through ubuntu's releases one by one to see where it 
did break.


> From: goo...@levy.ch
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Jilted Ceilings
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:14:50 -0400
> 
> On August 28, 2010 07:19:07 am Bruno Postle wrote:
> > On Fri 27-Aug-2010 at 21:40 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > >I still think it is a mistake in terms of usability to assume that the
> > >EXIF data is there and is always valid.
> > 
> > Hugin doesn't rely on the EXIF angle of view calculation, it just
> > increases the probability of a good fit - The Assistant recalculates
> > the angle of view and discards the EXIF-based assumption during
> > optimisation.
> > 
> > Hugin used to assume all photos were initially 50° and this worked
> > ok.
> 
> This sounds reasonable and I've been hitting the wrong nail.
> 
> So what is it that has changed between 0.7.0 and now to cause Dale's projects 
> not to work recently?  I don't like regressions...
> 
> Yuv
  

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[hugin-ptx] Owie

[Dale Beams]

Another comparison set.  This set was done for a documentation set.

AutoPano Pro

Load images, < 30 min later this is the result.  I did move the center
mark, but that was all.  It's not perfect, there are some problems which
appears to be with parrallax.  I did shoot this with pano head, which
makes me believe the pano head is off.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/screenshots/Screenshot-13.png


Hugin

Load images, 7 hours later, this was the result.  I did not fix this,
rather, closed the program and started something else.

http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/screenshots/Screenshot-14.png

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu Deb for Hugin 2010.02

[Dale Beams]

Yes, the page doesn't mention the --grad arugement because as of yet i've not 
been able to get it to work.  It's not in the "help" either.

On a default install, "All images at once" is the default. (Or was on mine).

I'll test installation on a vanilla install of ubuntu myself this evening.  
Prior to installing the cutting edge, I had hugin installed and removed it 
before installation of the new binaries.

Dale


> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:53:36 -0700
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu Deb for Hugin 2010.02
> From: paolobe...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> 
> On 18 Ago, 18:41, Dale Beams  wrote:
> > Pablo,
> >
> > http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/screenshots/Screenshot-10.png
> 
> > shows the parameter's I'm using (--grad --sieve1size 100 --sieve2size 2
> > -o %o %i).
> 
> Well, one thing 
> http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100730-hugin_deb.html
> doesn't say is that you must set the upper drop-down-list selector to
> "all images at once".
> 
> The same page doesn't mencion the "--grad" parameter.
> 
> Anyway, even if I set as you say I can't generate the CPs, I get this
> error:
> 
> Command: /usr/local/bin/geodaisy --grad --sieve1size 100 --sieve2size
> 2 -o /tmp/ap_resVALXLQ  "/home/paolo/Scrivania/974-1.jpg" "/home/paolo/
> Scrivania/975-1.jpg"
> failed with error code: 127
> 
> 
> 
> > In respect to linking Hugin, I'm able to run Hugin from the binaries
> > without linking.  I'd be interested in know what error messages you are
> > getting.
> 
> I had to issue:
> 
> $ cd /usr/lib
> $  sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libhuginbase.so.0.0
> $  sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0
> $  sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libhuginbasewx.so.0.0
> $  sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libceleste.so.0.0
> 
> because hugin looked for the libraries in /usr/lib. Before that, I
> tried adding /usr/local/lib to PATH, but without success.
> 
> > I'm in the process of re-building the binaries for Ubuntu 10.04,
> > specifically looking for an easier install for me and others alike.  I
> > build on a brand new shiny clean 10.04 system each time.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 05:59 -0700, paolobenve wrote:
> > > Can't get geodaisy working following
> > >http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100730-hugin_de...
> >
> > > The configure window for geodaisy has parameter that are not mentioned
> > > in that page, how must I set them?
> >
> > > Besides that, is panomatic to uninstall before installing geodaisy?
> >
> > > On 18 Ago, 14:52, paolobenve  wrote:
> > > > Hugin works only after establishing links from /usr/lib to the /usr/
> > > > local/lib libraries
> >
> > > > On 31 Lug, 08:28, Andreas Metzler  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Dale Beams  wrote:
> > > > > >http://www.tatteredmoons.org/hugin/deb/ubuntu/10.04/20100730-hugin_de...
> >
> > > > > Hello,
> >
> > > > > * These are cmake built packages
> > > > >   ---> No proper package dependencies.
> > > > >   ---> Install to /usr/local/
> > > > >   ---> Not integrated in menu system
> >
> > > > > This should not make any major problems, though. Because they install 
> > > > > to
> > > > > /usr/local/ you should not get problems on up/downgrades from or to
> > > > > official packages. Seems ok for bleeding edge.
> >
> > > > > * The versioning is off. Neither hugin 2010.2.0 nor enblend 4.1.1 have
> > > > > been released.
> >
> > > > > FWIW there is also 
> > > > > Debian/experimentalhttp://packages.debian.org/experimental/hugin
> >
> > > > > cu andreas
> > > > > --
> > > > > `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are
> > > > > so grateful to you.'
> > > > > `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'
> 
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