Re: Encryption

2005-06-07 Thread Ulrich Boche

John Abernethy wrote:

Does anyone know if ICSF requires specialized
hardware to run?



On all machines before the z990 and z890, in order to run ICSF you need 
to have the CCFs (Cryptographic Coprocessor Feature) activated, a master 
key properly set and a CKDS (Cryptographic Key Data Set) allocated.


On the z990 and z890, the minimum you need to be able to run ICSF is to 
have CPACF (CP Assist for Cryptographic Functions), a feature that comes 
with every processor, activated.


Activation of the CCFs requires a Hardware Enablement Diskette 
(orderable as a feature) which needs to be loaded by an IBM CE over a 
POR (Power-On Reset).


Activation of CPACF also requires a feature to be ordered but does not 
require a POR.

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Re: Console logon(required) and routed MQS commands in a sysplex

2005-06-07 Thread Walt Farrell

On 6/7/2005 1:06 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote:

OA12196 is also not trackable in AST. ;-(



True. I'll let you know when the ptf is available. You can open an ETR with
IBM and request subscription to the apar.

IBM won't even tell me why they give me recommendations that are not
explained at all. And *I know* that there is a gaping hole (I found it in
the non-oco control blocks - and I have to assume that logon to one console
right after IPL for the first time destroys the security environment of
another, so that all commands routed in a sysplex issued from that other
console will be accepted as if logon were not required).

Also I wonder: I was told that neither the apar text nor the resolution are
shown in the ++ptf. The thing will probably be marked so that it should be
installed first chance. Are all of you installing ptfs just on IBM's say-so
without knowing why? We normally don't do that...


OA12196 is a Security APAR.  Just as with Integrity APARs, IBM withholds 
details of the problem and the fix to decrease the chances that someone 
will find out the details and attack systems that do not have the fix 
applied yet.


Yes, you're just supposed to install it, as with all other PTFs for 
Security/Integrity APARs.


Walt Farrell, CISSP
z/OS Security Design


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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Werner Kuehnel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:15:54 +0200
Subject: Additional DASD devices


Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add let's say 
4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration? 
I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK V2XF with 
the maximum of addresses, the available private region went down by 1 MB. 
Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this. 
 
Werner 
 

 
 
I/O devices, channels, control units, etc., are described by control blocks 
that are in the part of central storage called the Hardware Storage Area (HSA), 
which is allocated from the top down.  These control blocks are normally 
accessed and accessible only by the channel subsystem.  Most of them are not 
documented in the Principles of Operations.  I don't remember if there is any 
MVS operator command that can display how large the HSA is.
 
Bill Fairchild
 
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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread salah Balboul
The command would be: D IOS,CONFIG(HSA)

Salah

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From: Werner Kuehnel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Additional DASD devices


Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add let's
say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration? 
I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK V2XF
with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went down by 1
MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this. 
 
Werner 
 

 
 
I/O devices, channels, control units, etc., are described by control blocks
that are in the part of central storage called the Hardware Storage Area
(HSA), which is allocated from the top down.  These control blocks are
normally accessed and accessible only by the channel subsystem.  Most of
them are not documented in the Principles of Operations.  I don't remember
if there is any MVS operator command that can display how large the HSA is.
 
Bill Fairchild
 
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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread John Cassidy
/D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) in SDSF will give you the amount of the hardware system
area (HSA) that is available to perform configuration changes.


This is an excerpt from the z/OS 1.6 System Commands.








 -Original Message-
 From: Werner Kuehnel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Sent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:15:54 +0200
 Subject: Additional DASD devices


 Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add let's
 say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration?
 I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK V2XF
 with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went down by 1
 MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this.

 Werner




 I/O devices, channels, control units, etc., are described by control
 blocks that are in the part of central storage called the Hardware Storage
 Area (HSA), which is allocated from the top down.  These control blocks
 are normally accessed and accessible only by the channel subsystem.  Most
 of them are not documented in the Principles of Operations.  I don't
 remember if there is any MVS operator command that can display how large
 the HSA is.

 Bill Fairchild

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Re: IEW2606S Doing C Programming

2005-06-07 Thread Big Iron
I went and RTFMed (C/C++ Runtime Library Reference) since my memory
obviously needed refreshing; I found this note:

If you cannot use a PDSE member or HFS file, and your program contains
C++ code, or C code that is compiled with any of the RENT, LONGNAME, DLL or
IPA compiler options, you must use the prelinker. C and C++ code compiled
with the GOFF or XPLINK compiler options cannot be processed by the prelinker.

So, the use of the prelinker allows you to avoid the use of PDSEs in some
cases. COMPAT is one binder option which should be checked.

Bill

On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:52:32 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In a recent note, Big Iron said:

 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:02:37 -0500

 There are also some binder options: COMPAT, CASE=MIXED, LONGNAME or DLL
 which can force the use of program objects.

I couldn't resist trying this:

//DOIT EXEC HLASMCL,PARM.C=(OBJECT,NOXOBJECT,TERM),
//  PARM.L='MAP,LET,LIST,NCAL,CASE=MIXED'
[ ... ]
//*
//L.SYSLIN DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=*.C.SYSLIN
// DD  *
NAME MixCase(R)
//L.SYSLMOD DD  DSNTYPE=PDS

... with the result in L.SYSPRINT:

SAVE OPERATION SUMMARY:

   MEMBER NAME MixCase
   LOAD LIBRARYSYS05155.T094053.RA000.MIXED.GOSET.H01
   PROGRAM TYPELOAD MODULE

... so, apparently, CASE=MIXED still doesn't require PDSE.  The only way
I can imagine to execute a program so named is with ATTACH from an
Assembler program.  I'm confident (without trying) that even Rexx
address 'ATTCHMVS' 'MixCase' wouldn't do it.  (But how about C,
COBOL, PL/I, FORTRAN?)

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Shannon
Anyone read about Citigroup blaming UPS for losing customer's
information
for 3.9 million customers?  I have this picture of someone tossing a
couple of tapes in a box and mailing them off without realizing how
important they were.

That's not a fair comment. They seem to have taken reasonable
precautions:

In the most recent incident, Citigroup executives say the box
containing the tapes was handed over to U.P.S., along with other items
for shipping, on May 2, under special security procedures that the
bank required of the courier. One of those special procedures, said
Citigroup's chief operations and technology officer, Debby Hopkins,
included scanning the bar code on each package, rather than scanning
only the single bar code on the shipment manifest, which is a summary
document listing all the packages being moved in one shipment

What else would one do? Send a courier for each shipment?

Bob Shannon

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread John P Baker
No, I would not use a courier.

On the other hand, it would be a simple matter to have encrypted the data on
the tapes.

It is nothing less than grossly irresponsible to ship this type of data in
an unencrypted format.

John P Baker
Software Engineer

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Anyone read about Citigroup blaming UPS for losing customer's
information
for 3.9 million customers?  I have this picture of someone tossing a
couple of tapes in a box and mailing them off without realizing how
important they were.

That's not a fair comment. They seem to have taken reasonable
precautions:

In the most recent incident, Citigroup executives say the box
containing the tapes was handed over to U.P.S., along with other items
for shipping, on May 2, under special security procedures that the
bank required of the courier. One of those special procedures, said
Citigroup's chief operations and technology officer, Debby Hopkins,
included scanning the bar code on each package, rather than scanning
only the single bar code on the shipment manifest, which is a summary
document listing all the packages being moved in one shipment

What else would one do? Send a courier for each shipment?

Bob Shannon

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Shannon
 It is nothing less than grossly irresponsible to ship this type of
data  in an unencrypted format.

According to your metric, probably 99.9% of companies worldwide are
grossly irresponsible. I'm not defending them, I'm just saying that in
2005 almost no one encrypts tapes. 

Bob Shannon

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Re: Entry level readers?

2005-06-07 Thread SArnett
Been a sysprog for 28 years, 22 of that in MVS(beginning with XA), and I 
still consider myself a junior tomost of the folks here.  I have a 
feeling that there was a distinct advantage to being around MVS in the 
non-OCO days.  I know that I have a better understanding of CICS from 
those days in the CICS world.


Steve A.

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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Joe Zitzelberger

On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

In a recent note unmask] said:


Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:31:05 -0400


IGZ0201W  A file attribute mismatch was detected. File DDNAME in
program
xxx had a record length of mmm+4 and the file specified in the
ASSIGN
clause had a record length of qqq.


My specific problem was that I wanted to describe a record as the set
of all possible variable records:

RECORD VARYING FROM 5 TO 32761

And then to be able to open any variable blocked file.

Just another case of the system showing its age in the 21st century...


Someone in this group lately called UNIX radically immature.  Now you
see z/OS as superannuated.  UNIX appears to me to be in its robust 
prime:

you wouldn't have that problem on UNIX.

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The both date back to the jurassic age of computing -- 1970 isn't 
exactly new. And 36 years compared to 41 years is just about the same 
in the grand scheme of things.


The big difference that I see is that z/OS keeps design decisions 
around long after the need for them is gone.  For example, Unix dropped 
'card' type metaphors as soon as readers and punches departed -- z/OS 
still has them in every nook and cranny a quarter of a century later.  
There are many other examples, but I've held forth on those at length 
previously, there is no need to do so again.


What I find most humorous about the above LRECL/FD agreement problem is 
that IBM's Cobol now supports parsing modern XML, but makes it almost 
impossible to read such content from a Data Set using their flagship 
compiler.  After all, it must be an error if you don't know the size of 
the card deck you are putting into the reader...



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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
I tried the D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) command and got a display that did not tell  me 
how big HSA is, but rather how much of HSA is available for adding more  
configuration changes, such as more control units or subchannels (more commonly 
 
pronounced devices).
 
HSA stands for Hardware System Area, not Hardware Storage Area as I wrote  in 
my previous post.
 
The info on how many HSAs there are, how big each one is, and its beginning  
address is all contained in the Service Call Control Block (SCCB), mapped by  
SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB), and pointed to by CVTSCPIN.  Service Call is a  special 
SVC (I think it is 122) in MVS that invokes the Diagnose instruction to  read 
hardware configuration info from the floppy disk.  I learned about it  by 
perusing some RMF microfiche in 1987.
 
The SCCB also has info on various processor features that are installed,  
such as the Performed Lock Operation (PLO) instruction.
 
I don't remember any software that displays the SCCB info.   TMON/MVS might.  
It should be easy to build code to find and display the  contents or to find 
it in a system dump that includes (E)CSA and (E)SQA.
 
Since the beginning address of each HSA is a four-byte value (SCCBAHSA), it  
appears that all HSAs are allocated from the top down of the 2GB bar.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Eric Vaughan -- illustro Systems
Also, please see www.illustro.com/mainframeconversions.htm. Here we have
started an archive chronicling some less than successful conversions away
from the mainframe. 

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:20 PM
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 Subject: Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?
 
 Charles Mills wrote:
  I'm looking for one good, recent (last 12 months?) article I could send
  to someone who said to me you mean companies are still using
  mainframes? Is anyone still making new ones?
 
  The man in question is quite technical but obviously enterprise IT (and
  even computers specifically) is not his field. So the article could be
  fairly technical, but would not need to be.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Charles Mills
 
 Well, we have some pieces we call Very Short Presentations
 on moder mainframes on our site at:
 
 http://www.trainersfriend.com/General_content/VSP_site.htm
 
 A 28-page pdf article titled The Future of Mainframes Is Now
 can be found at:
 
 http://www.trainersfriend.com/Papers/ztalkpr.pdf
 
 There is a link to an IBM-sponsored article called The
 Dinosaur Myth at:
 
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/zseries/
 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kind regards,
 
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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 8:00:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Also,  please see www.illustro.com/mainframeconversions.htm. Here we have
started  an archive chronicling some less than successful conversions away
from the  mainframe. 




Are you aware of reboothill?

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Additional DASD devices
 
 
 Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add 
 let's say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD 
 configuration?
 I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK 
 V2XF with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went 
 down by 1 MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this.
 
 Werner

Probably having the UCBs below the line. Note that the size of the HSA
has absolutely NOTHING to do with the size of the private region. Oh,
I'm assuming you mean the below the line private, not the above the line
private.

We just got a new Shark. I had to put the UCBs above the line. I used to
have them below the line due to some OEM products not tolerating them
being above the line.


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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add 
let's say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration?
I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK 
V2XF with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went 
down by 1 MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this. 
 
UCBs use E/SQA. They will reside above or below the line according to 
the device definition in HCD.

Peter Hunkeler
Senior IT Specialist, IBM zSeries Technical Sales Support, Switzerland

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Re: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]

2005-06-07 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
Respectfully, I must disagree.  The introduction of REXX was independent
of MVS introducing releases.  TSO V2 introduced REXX to the MVS world.
It did have a prerequisite of XA, not ESA.  When I went to work as a
contractor at a large azure, software/hardware manufacturer in 1990,
their MVS/XA systems had TSO V2 and I promptly proceeded to stun them by
putting some functions out under TSO that I had written in VM.  They
knew REXX was there but had not even tried to use it yet - they were all
still writing CLISTs.

Jim Horne
Lowe's Companies, Inc.

 
 IIRC that was TSO V2R1M0. And that had a prereq of MVS 3.1.0e for
 the LLA
 cacheing of CLISTs/ REXX execs.

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Re: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]

2005-06-07 Thread Martin Packer
Make that VLF rather than LLA. This week I can blame it on jetlag rather
than an actual senior moment. Those are still ahead of me, I hope. :-)

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Re: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...

BTW I would love to have MVS 310E as my car number plate
...

A guy I worked with had

DB2 GUY

Because of DB2, he went from an entry-level to a senior sysprog.


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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Clark Morris said:

 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:35:44 -0300
 
 The problem has nothing to do with z/OS vs. Unix.  It is a simple
 IDIOTIC check that can't be disabled.  It may make sense for fixed
 
The thrust of my remark was that since UNIX maintains no metadata
similar to LRECL, no such check is possible, and no such delusional
error can be IDIOTICally reported.  I suppose I can be accused of
some inconsistency since I lately hailed UNIX for dutifully maintaining
other metadata (file timestamps).  But UNIX programs don't often fail
because the system insists on validating a timestamp.

 block.  The whole issue should be revisited by the COBOL compiler
 group.  The 2002 COBOL standard might allow a graceful way for the
 compiler group to make the appropriate changes.  In one sense the
 SHARE requirement might be to honor the Language Futures Task Force
 report.  This would also have some other interesting advantages such
 as allowing COBOL programs to read or write either ESDS or QSAM files
 without program modification.
 
Doesn't the standard support portability of COBOL programs to platforms
that don't maintain LRECL as metadata?  If so, the standard can't
require validation of LRECL, since that isn't guaranteed to be
available.  It should be permissible simply to perform no such check.

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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...

Are you aware of reboothill?
...

Has it been updated recently?

It seems to be at least 3 years since anything was added to it.


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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
We just got a new Shark. I had to put the UCBs above the line. I used to
have them below the line due to some OEM products not tolerating them
being above the line
...

That would be pretty old releases of ISV software.

We had UCB's above the line for quite a long time (in my former life).


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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:12 AM
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 Subject: Re: COBOL short variable length files
 

snip

 Doesn't the standard support portability of COBOL programs to 
 platforms
 that don't maintain LRECL as metadata?  If so, the standard can't
 require validation of LRECL, since that isn't guaranteed to be
 available.  It should be permissible simply to perform no such check.
 
 -- gil
 -- 

And have the UNIX problem when somebody reads a record into a buffer
which is too small to hold it. Classic buffer overflow problem. At least
on z/OS, the program dies instead of quietly producing junk. We have
other ways to quietly produce junk grin.


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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Greg Shirey
As far as I can tell, it has not been updated this century.  However, the
site now has this disclaimer:

You have requested information that is part of the ACTS Archives. While this
information is several years old, it has been retained on our website by
popular demand. Please be advised that much of this information was
assembled during a time of great upheaval in the IT industry. It is
important to learn from history, so that similar failures can be avoided. We
hope that you find something useful herein.

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Has it been updated recently?

It seems to be at least 3 years since anything was added to it.

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: Additional DASD devices
 
 
 ...
 We just got a new Shark. I had to put the UCBs above the 
 line. I used to
 have them below the line due to some OEM products not tolerating them
 being above the line
 ...
 
 That would be pretty old releases of ISV software.
 
 We had UCB's above the line for quite a long time (in my former life).
 
 
 -teD

Well, yes, but once bitten, twice shy. Especially when the Windows
weenies are __constantly__ jumping on any type of problem in the
mainframe arena and lieing about how Windows just doesn't have those
problems. Well, those problems is not a lie. Windows has an entirely
different set of problems. But they don't count, of course.


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Re: Is there an indication when LINKLIST is available?

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Relson
The LINKLIST is always available. Early in IPL it consists only of
SYS1.NUCLEUS. Later in IPL it is the concatenation defined by
PROGxx/LNKLSTxx. From the time that the first RIM runs forever CVTLINK
points to a DCB which points to a DEB which represents what the system is
going to treat as the LINKLIST.

Is there really a place in the operating system where user code is expected
to run that early? What exit are you referring to?

Can you please be more specific about your environment and the return (and
reason) code that you got back.

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z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 6:57:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

According to your metric, probably 99.9% of companies worldwide  are
grossly irresponsible. I'm not defending them, I'm just saying that  in
2005 almost no one encrypts tapes. 



Citigroup is a big company, don't know if we're seeing a pattern
of missing data from Financial companies or just more reported missing  data. 
UPS really is a tightly run shipper. If they lost something important it  
probably wasn't an accident.
 
CNN reports a joint Citi/UPS task force in conjunction with the
FEDS to investigate as the notifications and identifications  continue.
 
The best place to encrypt is at the source. Lacking that we're looking at  
track copies of images on DASD. If it wasn't encrypted
to start with it's not encrypted on the backup. At present there's not a  
fungible compromise with hardware and software. The new FDRCrypt stuff may be  
really hot, but you better have a plan. Guess
I can visualize instances of encrypted tapes unreadable by anything but the  
originating system. Which may or may not be available.
 
While we're here, don't be too dependent on the 'Floor system' at you D/R.  
As convenient as it is, it also may not be there or your company has contracted 
 for 'as available' service and in a large
disaster may not have access to D/R where you've practiced.
 
Guess I've told the Omaha story before. Large Insurance company had
their own D/R 6 miles away. Late one Friday afternoon lightning hit an  
ammonium nitrate truck-32,000 lbs went WHOOM in between the two centers! Few  
broken windows, but no structural damage. Later in
the evening during the backups-the internal bearings on the SLEDs
started to fail. Nine days later after depleting North American bearing  
supply-were back on-line. 
 
what's plan B?  

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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Joe Zitzelberger said:

 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:38:25 -0400
 
 The most effective type of birth control is learning Cobol.  -DT
 
I can't conceive a fascination with COBOL so intense that I couldn't
conceive.

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Re: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Gould
on 6/6/05 7:54 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
 06/06/2005
 at 09:45 AM, Horne, Jim - James S [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 Rexx under TSO was available as of TSO v2.  On VM,it was available by
 VM/SP release 3 - I don't think it was in release 2.
 
 Are you sure? I know that REXX wasn't in SEPP (MVS/SE), but I thought
 that it was in MVS/SP R2 at the latest.
 


I remember it becoming available in either 1991 or 1992 (early). I was
holding up another project as I wanted to do something in REXX that wasn't
avail;able in clist. My vague recollection that it was 2.4 (But I wouldn't
swear on it).

Ed

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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 8:25:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

IBM, in  contrast, tried to coerce perforated tape into the unit record
mold.   I recall that there were legendary difficulties reading on a 1620
tapes  that lacked the necessary record separator codes.  I think the
symptom  was overflowing buffer and wrapping memory.  I don't know if
it  stopped when the READ instruction was finally overlaid.  I  don't
recall whether the deficiency was in the control unit or the  FORTRAN
runtime system.




One of my first real jobs was hooking a 33ASR to an 029. So
the ATT toll information could be 'punched' for the billing
system. The ATT tech couldn't view the IBM manual and the IBM CE
couldn't view the ATT by copyright/legal working agreement.
We put an eight pin terminator strip on the wall between
the two machines. Didn't work. Well, what's you DTR---finally
the IBM guy needed a break and laid his manual to the page
on the 029. We decided we need a break too and laid our manual
on the chair to the page-funny thing after the break was over.
The thing started to work! 

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Re: Console logon(required) and routed MQS commands in a sysplex

2005-06-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:06:00 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OA12196 is also not trackable in AST. ;-(

True. I'll let you know when the ptf is available. You can open an ETR with
IBM and request subscription to the apar.

IBM won't even tell me why they give me recommendations that are not
explained at all. And *I know* that there is a gaping hole (I found it in
the non-oco control blocks - and I have to assume that logon to one console
right after IPL for the first time destroys the security environment of
another, so that all commands routed in a sysplex issued from that other
console will be accepted as if logon were not required).

Also I wonder: I was told that neither the apar text nor the resolution are
shown in the ++ptf. The thing will probably be marked so that it should be
installed first chance. Are all of you installing ptfs just on IBM's say-so
without knowing why? We normally don't do that...

Best regards, Barbara


Isn't this S.O.P. for any integrity / security APARs?  I guess we
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a little unusual when you do.  Unlike M$SOFT where you get about
10 or more of these a month. :-)

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Hunkeler
E/SQA? I thought they were nucleus resident? Well, back in the day 
at
least. I wonder because I did not increase the SQA= parameter in
IEASYSnn when I added all the Shark devices. Or is SQA automagically
increased?

They were moved to (E)SQA in support if dynamic I/O, I think. If you
add devices and do not IPL with CLPA, your available SQA will shrink
since PLPA boundary is kept constant. With CLPA, the SQA= parameter
from IEASYSxx is honoured and PLPA is moved, if necessary.

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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Baron Carter
http://www.arcati.com/dino.html

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Re: Encryption

2005-06-07 Thread Tom R. Butler
I feel your pain. We've also been required to do more encryption
with our vendors. We currently have PGP/GPG (the freeware copy) and bTrade
(from Citigroup) loaded on our ftp server. This solution has been working ok
so far. We'll be upgrading to a Z890 next year so that'll take care of ICSF.


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Ed,
The machine is a z800.  They want to encrypt things on
a PC type machine and send it to the MAINFRAME.  Decrypt it and
process it and then save it on a file on the MAINFRAME in
encrypted format.  At least that is what I understand.  The powers
to be change their ideas from minute to minute and listen to no
one with the knowledge(Which obviously is not me - maybe that means
they'll at least listen)(being sarcastic sorry.)

They are hoping to be able to encrypt/decrypt with only software.  That
is why I am asking about the hardware requirement(no money for the MAINFRAME
- we have traversed to the dark side and I don't know when we will be back.)

Thanks,
John

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



Ask, and you shall receive...  just got an announcement from Innovation on

their forthcoming encryption software.

Find it here...   http://www.innovationdp.com/products/fdrcrypt/


 



I got it too.  Now perhaps I can get the DR PHBs off my back
about this.  :-)   Ever since that darn artical a month or so ago...

The only issue I see is that at least this initial release doesn't
support hardware acceleration via ICSF.  We already use it at the
shop and at DR.

With all the recent news about backup tape loss, backup encryption has 
become Topic A.  We used to get a couple of inquiries a year about 
encryption, now it is many calls a day!!


So we have been working on FDRCRYPT for some time, and the work has 
progressed far enough to announce it (you never get vaporware from 
Innovation gr).


On the hardware issue, you will notice in the announcement that the only 
encryption standard we support is AES (Advanced Encryption Standard).  
There is no hardware accelerator for AES.  Although IBM's ICSF product 
has supported AES since z/OS 1.3, it is implemented entirely in 
software.  We opted to do our own software implementation, so that it 
will be independent of MVS releases, and also because we believe that we 
can implement it more efficiently than IBM.   If IBM someday comes out 
with an AES hardware feature, we will evaluate its performance (even 
hardware accelerators take CPU time). 

We also support several simple encryption techniques which are lower 
overhead than AES.


You might wonder why we don't support DES (which is supported by the 
hardware accelerators).   AES was created as a new standard in 2000 
because DES had become more susceptible to cracking by today's 
high-speed processors.  In fact, DES was recently de-certified by the 
Dept of Commerce as a US government option in favor of AES (even TDES, 
triple DES, is discouraged).   We decided not to put our effort into 
supporting a fading standard.


You can read about this at
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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 10:43 -0400, Bruce Black wrote:
 We opted to do our own [AES] implementation, so that it 
 will be independent of MVS releases

Also so that decryption would be supported by SAR?

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



Also so that decryption would be supported by SAR?

Sorry, no plans to put it into SAR at this time.  Our advice would be to 
not encrypt the backups of system volumes that you may need to restore 
with SAR.  Such volumes will normally not contain sensitive data 
requring enryption.


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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:43:10 -0400, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


You might wonder why we don't support DES (which is supported by the
hardware accelerators).

I might. In fact it was my first question when I received the
annoucement in my email.   :-) Thanks for the information!

Mark

 AES was created as a new standard in 2000
because DES had become more susceptible to cracking by today's
high-speed processors.  In fact, DES was recently de-certified by the
Dept of Commerce as a US government option in favor of AES (even TDES,
triple DES, is discouraged).   We decided not to put our effort into
supporting a fading standard.

You can read about this at
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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Jon Brock
Speaking as one who was bitten by the issue described in II12396, you might 
want to check your INITSQA parameter if you plan on adding a bunch of new 
devices to a production system.

Jon



snip
Well, I did some tests and added 4 CUs with 1024 devices to our test system.
The output from D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) was:
/snip
Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add
let's say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration?
I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK
V2XF with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went
down by 1 MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this.
/snip

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Hanrahan
Bob,

Nothing unfair about the comment. Even, special security procedures,
undergo an audit process and need to be reviewed. There are couriers that
provide better assurances. When handling new product tapes for software we
delivered them personally.  In some cases couriers are bonded and the
material hand cuffed to the courier.

I once personally delivered product tapes for a release of VM to the CICS
labs in Hursley.  We sure weren't going to use some bar code procedure and
rely on UPS.

I wouldn't fault Debby Hopkins if she met the criteria set forth for her by
legal at the bank but I still would have been concerned if I were Debby.

As someone else said UPS is a common courier.

Were the tapes insured for the amount represented by the total of all the
money in the accounts of those who appeared on the tapes ?

Paul Hanrahan

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Subject: Re: Banks


Anyone read about Citigroup blaming UPS for losing customer's
information
for 3.9 million customers?  I have this picture of someone tossing a 
couple of tapes in a box and mailing them off without realizing how 
important they were.

That's not a fair comment. They seem to have taken reasonable
precautions:

In the most recent incident, Citigroup executives say the box containing
the tapes was handed over to U.P.S., along with other items for shipping, on
May 2, under special security procedures that the bank required of the
courier. One of those special procedures, said Citigroup's chief operations
and technology officer, Debby Hopkins, included scanning the bar code on
each package, rather than scanning only the single bar code on the shipment
manifest, which is a summary document listing all the packages being moved
in one shipment

What else would one do? Send a courier for each shipment?

Bob Shannon

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Gould
on 6/7/05 10:06 AM, Bruce Black at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Also so that decryption would be supported by SAR?
 
 Sorry, no plans to put it into SAR at this time.  Our advice would be to
 not encrypt the backups of system volumes that you may need to restore
 with SAR.  Such volumes will normally not contain sensitive data
 requring enryption.

Bruce,

Now I wonder how many tapes will be encrypted and when they get to the DR
site they will be useless Sounds like some possibility of Innovation
getting a wrongfully accused black eye. I hope you highlight the DON'T
ENCRYPT these types of tapes in your manual.

Ed

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Re: Advice on expanding VTOC index

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



IEC614I RENAME FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (0812041B)

Ur right this does indicate CVAF CVSTAT code 1B, which is VTOCIX full.  

It is true that the space used in the VTOCIX is dependant on the length 
of dataset names, and also on the variability of the names.   Similar 
names get compressed in the VTOCIX, with only the unlike portions 
appearing. 

IBM Info APAR II12841 describes this exact return code with info on how 
to expand the VTOCIX


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Re: Started Task written in C ?

2005-06-07 Thread Wolfgang Rupprath
Hi all,
 
 Can you provide s short segment of source about how to use these
two
 functions? I just tried to use __console() send message to console but
got
 nothing.
  Thx!

here is a small test program using the __console() function to display a
message on the console and/or the system log, then wait for either a
MODIFY or a STOP command and then terminate.

I don't have a running program for the __console2() function. We simply
did not need the enhanced capabilities of routing code specifications
etc., so we settled with the __console().

Wolfgang 

- cut here -
#include stdio.h
#include string.h
#include errno.h
#include sys/__messag.h

static char szHelloMessage[] = TEST Program for console() started ;

extern int main ( int argc , char *argv[] )
{
   struct __cons_msg  consoleMessage;
   int rc;
   char caCommandString[200];
   int  iConsoleCommand;

   consoleMessage.__format.__f1.__msg_length = strlen(szHelloMessage);
   consoleMessage.__format.__f1.__msg= szHelloMessage;

   printf ( Calling __console() function\n );

   rc = __console(consoleMessage,caCommandString,iConsoleCommand);

   if ( rc == 0 )
   {
  switch ( iConsoleCommand )
  {
 case _CC_modify:
printf ( Modify command received, CMD = %s\n ,
 caCommandString );
break;

 case _CC_stop:
printf ( Stop command received\n );
break;

 default:
printf ( Invalid command type received from __console(),
  type = %d\n , iConsoleCommand );
break;
  }
   }
   else
   {
  printf ( Call to __console() failed, errno = %d\n , errno );
   }
}

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Re: DFMSdss logical file format

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black
sounds like you are planning on recreating a DSS restore program for a 
system which doesn' t have DSS.  That could be a daunting task.  There 
are many complexities to allocating and restoring all the various kinds 
of datasets that may appear on a backup tape.   I recommend pursuing 
other options.


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2005-06-07 Thread Dean Montevago
Hi,

Can these be installed as standalone components or do you also need a address 
space like TMON's HUB address space that provides services to it's components ?

TIA
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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 10:07:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Sorry,  no plans to put it into SAR at this time.  Our advice would be to 
not  encrypt the backups of system volumes that you may need to restore 
with  SAR.  Such volumes will normally not contain sensitive data 
requring  enryption.




But isn't that the weak link? Got all my backups encrypted, but
the stuff to download the system and restore it is in the same
turtle shell. Get the package, get the  data? 

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Re: Performance and Capacity Planning

2005-06-07 Thread Porowski, Ken
z995 ?

-Original Message-
Phil Payne

snip

That presentation is now public domain - if I can't find it on the GSE site 
I'll post it on mine.  I have the same for the z990 and the z995 - and for 
something else. 

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
  
 In a message dated 6/7/2005 10:07:25 A.M. Central Standard 
 Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sorry,  no plans to put it into SAR at this time.  Our advice 
 would be to not  encrypt the backups of system volumes that 
 you may need to restore with  SAR.  Such volumes will 
 normally not contain sensitive data requring  enryption.
 
 
 But isn't that the weak link? Got all my backups encrypted, 
 but the stuff to download the system and restore it is in the 
 same turtle shell. Get the package, get the  data? 

Obviously, the key(s) should be stored / transported separately from the
rest of the backups

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 11:03:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Obviously, the key(s) should be stored / transported separately from  the
rest of the backups



Weak link two. Get the doc and wait for the tapes or just
copy the tapes and let your inside guy ferret  out the  docs.

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



On the other hand, it would be a simple matter to have encrypted the data on
the tapes.

As has been discussed in recent messages on this list, encrypting tapes 
is not always a simple matter.  In general, encryption and decryption 
must be built into the applications that are reading and writing the 
tapes, which means that the appropriate encryption software (and 
sometimes hardware) must be available at both the sending and receiving 
sites.  In this case, the bank was sending data to a credit bureau, so 
it was probably two totally different applications writing and reading 
the tape, possibly on two different operating systems, possibly on 
different hardware.Encryption was probably not so simple in this case.


Not to say it is not a good idea, but it is not as simple as putting in 
a couple of JCL parameters. 


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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't know if this is related or not, but we converted from OS/390 2.10 to 
z/OS 1.4, this past weekend.

We did not convert COBOL or LE.

According to a developer, an extra four bytes (for blocksize) is added to the 
data for

RECORDING MODE IS U.

Has anybody every heard of this?
Where is the doc?

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



Weak link two. Get the doc and wait for the tapes or just
copy the tapes and let your inside guy ferret  out the  docs.

Ed, my sugar must be low (time for lunch).  I read the above 3 times and 
I can't figure out what you are saying.


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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread August Carideo
But then again how do you know if nobody bothered to check , if it was the
same op sys , the same hardware etc.




   
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On the other hand, it would be a simple matter to have encrypted the data
on
the tapes.

As has been discussed in recent messages on this list, encrypting tapes
is not always a simple matter.  In general, encryption and decryption
must be built into the applications that are reading and writing the
tapes, which means that the appropriate encryption software (and
sometimes hardware) must be available at both the sending and receiving
sites.  In this case, the bank was sending data to a credit bureau, so
it was probably two totally different applications writing and reading
the tape, possibly on two different operating systems, possibly on
different hardware.Encryption was probably not so simple in this case.

Not to say it is not a good idea, but it is not as simple as putting in
a couple of JCL parameters.

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
Well, yes, but once bitten, twice shy. Especially when the Windows
weenies are __constantly__ jumping on any type of problem in the
mainframe arena
...

Sometimes, you have no choice.
We had some old CICS programmes that didn't know what an address greater than 
24-bit.
Adding the Shark in would have cost too much below.

So, we started with the existing DASD and moved them all above.

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
Citigroup is a big company, don't know if we're seeing a pattern
of missing data from Financial companies or just more reported missing  data.
...

I think it is both.
We've had at least three Canadian Banks leak data, by accident.
One did it by not wiping replaced PC's that they donated to local schools.


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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 11:16:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ed, my  sugar must be low (time for lunch).  I read the above 3 times and 
I  can't figure out what you are saying.




Least you got sugar. The backup tapes and encrypted data is
in one turtle shell and the doc and keys for processing are
under separate cover. So unscrupulous me, knows the tapes
are coming thru so but don't know where the DOC is so I just
copy the tapes and tell the other guy watch for the DOC that
matches turtle shell from XYZ corporation.
 
Or the inside guy says I got the DOC for processing XYZ's data,
watch for their turtle shell to come  thru. 

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



Hardware based tape encryption has been available since the days of the
3490.  I wonder why it hasn't caught on more.

Encryption??  Are you thinking of compression/compaction?   Not the same 
thing at all.  There is no tape hardware encryption for mainframes that 
I am aware of.


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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



But isn't that the weak link? Got all my backups encrypted, but
the stuff to download the system and restore it is in the same
turtle shell. Get the package, get the  data? 

In our experience, most customers at DR sites use a floor MVS system to 
restore their data, or at least the operating system environment.  Very 
few use SAR.  In the only recent SAR calls we have gotten, it was being 
used to setup a new data center. 


So the need for decryption in SAR is minimal.

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Re: Encryting Data on Tapes

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 12:01:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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So the need for decryption in SAR is minimal.





Murphy will be ready when you aren't 

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black



But then again how do you know if nobody bothered to check , if it was the
same op sys , the same hardware etc.

It is two different companies, exchanging data in a defined exchange 
format.  I think it is more likely that they are running different op 
system on different hardware, than the same.  Certainly the writing and 
reading application programs are different.


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Re: Good article on mainframe not dead?

2005-06-07 Thread Eric Vaughan -- illustro Systems
Sure, but we decided to start providing links to covered stories in the
press about these types of things, rather than the more generic approach.
Same idea just a different way of offering the data. 

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 Also,  please see www.illustro.com/mainframeconversions.htm. Here we have
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Problem with sms and acs routines

2005-06-07 Thread Hernández Ballestero Milton
 
Hi everybody :
 
We are trying to define a pool of discs for maintenance reasons. The idea is 
create a storage  class in the dd STORCLAS=SC0001, and then according to this 
storage class in the #SGxx we assign the storage group. The problem that we 
have its when we use the DD with the sentence Storage Class, the jcl its ok and 
we didn't define any unit or volume in the DD, but the file is allocated in a 
disk that its not in the storage group, it's a public disc. Its look like 
although we define the storage class, the sms assign to a public disc from 
esoteric sysallda or  something like that. Of course, if we erase the sentence 
STORCLAS in the DD there is a JCL error because we didn't define any valid unit 
or volume. On the other side, if we catch the file thru the name with a FITLIST 
on the #SCxx, then its works. Any ideas ?
 
TIA Milton
 

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Raymond Noal
It sounds like you told the HCD to allocate the UCB's below the line as
opposed to above. Check your specifications for the STK DASD you mention. 

HITACHI 
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Can someone tell me please, what storage areas will be used if I add 
let's say 4096 DASD devices (new DASD subsystem) to my HCD configuration?
I seem to recall a situation months ago, when we defined our new STK 
V2XF with the maximum of addresses, the available private region went 
down by 1 MB. Unfortunately I can't remember what areas caused this.

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SHARE in Boston

2005-06-07 Thread Skip Robinson
The agenda for SHARE in Boston (August 21 - 26) has been set. A total of
1114 sessions have been scheduled, of which 230 are technical sessions in
the MVS Program. As with every SHARE, there's pervasive emphasis on what's
coming well as lots of advice on how to make the most of what you already
have in house.

This meeting is a special one for us: the official commemoration of SHARE's
Golden Anniversary, marking 50 full years since the first meeting in Santa
Monica, CA in August of 1955. A number of events are planned to celebrate
our five decades of success as the world's first association of computer
professionals.

SHARE offers each attendee more than a solid week's worth of professional
education, meaning plenty to do and learn for as many employees as your
company can be induced to send. Tracks in the MVS Program include

- Feature and function in z/OS 1.6 and 1.7
- Workload Manager
- ISPF
- IBM's new DS8000
- All about WebSphere
- FICON
- Assembler Bootcamp
- Channel programming
- IBM z990 and z890
- Introduction to DFSMS
- Advanced DFSMSrmm
- VSAM (basics, advanced, RLS)
- ICF Catalogs

Visit http://www.share.org/events/Boston for information on conference
registration, housing, and agenda details.


.
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Re: BMC Mainview Products

2005-06-07 Thread Dean Montevago
Thanks Chris.

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 Can these be installed as standalone components or do you 
 also need a address space like TMON's HUB address space that 
 provides services to it's components ?
 

Some MV products are essentially stand-alone code and can run
with or without supporting infrastructure. For example, you can
run CMF (an RMF alternative) as a plain-jane standalone product.
It has less function when used this way, but you can do it. Others
(e.g. MV-AO) have both product and infrastructure in the one bundle
and do not require separate server address spaces 

But most of the products require the MV infrastructure. At present 
that is a separate started task that provides common services as
well as being the communications hub for multisystem communication.

Depending on your options you may also have one or more additional 
server address spaces, e.g. the MVE gateway address space provides
communications for the MV Explorer GUI. 

We are in the process of revamping and restructuring all of our 
infrastructure technologies to make it simpler to install and 
configure and more reliable overall. Those changes will be
rolled out over the next 9-18 months. When we are done there will 
probably be fewer address spaces, but they will be more flexibly
configured. More than that I can't say without a whiteboard and 
an NDA.

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread R.S.

John P Baker wrote:


No, I would not use a courier.

On the other hand, it would be a simple matter to have encrypted the data on
the tapes.

It is nothing less than grossly irresponsible to ship this type of data in
an unencrypted format.


Others already mentioned that virtually nobody encrypt mainframe tapes 
(because of lack of technology, technical and organizational problems 
and others).
I would say more: encrypted tapes can be decrypted. It's a matter of 
time and money (how many PC machines do you use for that).
Reading mainframe tapes is also matter of money - not every PFSCK has 
over 50k$ tape system at daddy's garage.
Last but not least: disclosure of the data, even bank data usually is 
not very profitable or interesting.
I remember some 'scandals' with printouts dropped with 'regular' garbage 
and then found by someone. Usually customers were not very excited with 
that.
BTW: How about printouts ? I read K.Mitnick's book - he didn't decrypt 
tape data, even didn't read stolen tapes. He browsed trascans.


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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Black
I would say more: encrypted tapes can be decrypted. It's a matter of 
time and money (how many PC machines do you use for that). 



I am not a mathematician (although I played one in college) but I 
believe there are two basic approaches to decrypting unknown data when 
you know the encryption algorithm.


1) knowing the algorithm, there may be a mathemical approach to figuring 
out the key by analyzing patterns of data.  AES was adopted because it 
was resistant to this sort of mathmetical attack, although I saw some 
recently published papers suggesting that an attack was possible given 
sufficient CPU power.


2) a brute-force attack, driving some encrypted data through the 
algorithm using all possible keys (billions and billions of them, Sagen 
would be proud) but this requirires the ability to recognize valid data 
when it is successfully decripted.   If the data contains printable 
sequences or other well-known patterns (e.g., packed decimal data) this 
may be possible, again given sufficient horsepower to try all those keys. 

So someone trying to get your encrypted data has to be really motivated 
and have lots of resources available. 


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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Hanrahan
Sorry, was thinking about the crypto feature which has nothing to do with
tape. - Paul Hanrahan

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Hardware based tape encryption has been available since the days of the 
3490.  I wonder why it hasn't caught on more.

Encryption??  Are you thinking of compression/compaction?   Not the same 
thing at all.  There is no tape hardware encryption for mainframes that 
I am aware of.

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Re: SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Gibney

   There's also Netpass from B.I.S. Software Systems



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Re: *MASTER*, START PENDING device wxyz vs ISG343I DEVICE:wxyz ... RESERVED B...

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/7/2005 1:57:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Any idea  why *MASTER* might be suffering of START PENDING on a device wich
contains  HSM's OCDS?




It's in use or failing?

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Fw: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Bill Klein
Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 On 6 Jun 2005 20:52:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
 
snip
 The problem has nothing to do with z/OS vs. Unix.  It is a simple
 IDIOTIC check that can't be disabled.  It may make sense for fixed
 block.  The whole issue should be revisited by the COBOL compiler
 group.  The 2002 COBOL standard might allow a graceful way for the
 compiler group to make the appropriate changes.  In one sense the
 SHARE requirement might be to honor the Language Futures Task Force
 report.  This would also have some other interesting advantages such
 as allowing COBOL programs to read or write either ESDS or QSAM files
 without program modification.
 

A couple of things to say about this.

A) FS=39 (fixed file attribute conflict) WAS clarified in about 1988 to
indicate that it is UP TO EACH VENDOR which attributes they do (and do
not) check.  If enough paying customers were able to convince IBM *not* to
check a specific attribute, they could do so (either optionally or always).
So far, although FS=39 was a migration inhibitor (about a decade-and-a-half
ago), I do NOT hear it being a significant problem for most customers today.

B) There is an existing SHARE requirement for IBM to provide dynamic file
attribute format of the FD, e.g.

   Record Varying in Size from data-name-1 to data-name-2
   Block contains data-name-3

Please email me off-list (wmklein at ix.netcom.com) if you would like the
SHARE requirement number so that your installation could submit a
site-specific REQUEST adding support (how much you would PAY) for this
functionality.

C) All recent and currently supported COBOL compilers allow one to pass a
DCB to a subprogram that may be written in COBOL, Assembler, or any other
language.  If playing with the DCB is what you want, then this is what you
should use.

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Fw: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Bill Klein
The difference (that I know of) for Recording Mode is U - STARTED with
OS/390 2.10 - not after it.  Check out:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY3MG20/3.5.3 

That page is worth reading for those who have made various suggestions to
the original problem relying on specific behavior for U data sets, i.e.
datasets CREATED as VB but treated as U.  This is NOT something I would
recommend as a long-term solution.

Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I don't know if this is related or not, but we converted from OS/390 2.10
to z/OS 1.4, this past weekend.
 
 We did not convert COBOL or LE.
 
 According to a developer, an extra four bytes (for blocksize) is added to
the data for
 
 RECORDING MODE IS U.
 
 Has anybody every heard of this?
 Where is the doc?
 

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Re: Software keys under VM at DR

2005-06-07 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Thanks everyone for the input. I went ahead and opened an issue with CA
to get an EKG (never heard of it before). One of our products is CA's
TCP/IP.
I think everyone would be mad at me if we went to Boulder from Little
Rock and tcpip wouldn't work. ;)

Regards,
Robert

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Re: DFS SMB Help

2005-06-07 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
AFAIR this is controlled by a Windows registry key Send clear passwords 
Yes/No. 

I'm not a specialist in this area but AFAIR we setup a TSO DCE segment and use 
the USS command SMBPWD to change the password. Not sure if other setup is needed
for SMB. Perhaps google or asking your Windows folks will help. 

Roland


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I'm running DFS SMB on z/OS 1.6 and have files set up for use on my PC.

Its been working for about 3 years.

Now when I issue the NET USE F: \\domain\share it asks for a user and password. 
 I tried my userid and password (same one us used for z/OS and network) but it 
is failing and I get Access denied.

Been through the supposed wizards here but no luck.

It never used to ask for user/password. Is this a mainframe issue, or has 
something changed in the network?

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Re: SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:08:41 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
Out of curiousity, why bother anymore? Surely very few people are
running with true 3270 terminals. On a PC desktop (Windows or Linux or
*BSD), you could just fire up multiple TN3270 sessions. ...

One of the primary advantages of session managers has nothing to do with
multiple sessions.  It is protection against session outages.  For most,
if not all, session managers a network outage breaks the session between
terminal and session manager, but not the session(s) between session
manager and application. When a user's session is brokens he/she can log
back on and be right back on the original sessions.  maybe a screen has
been lost, but not the session and its historical context.

As an extra bonus, the LOSTERM or NSEXTIT code in the session manager is
usually much lighter than the equivalent function in a CICS or IMS - no
transaction backout, etc.  Losing a bunch of sessions with a session
manager puts a lot lighter load on the processors than losing the same
number of sessions with a transaction processor.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
The difference (that I know of) for Recording Mode is U - STARTED with
OS/390 2.10 - not after it.  Check out:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY3MG20/3.5.3 
...

We were okay on Friday.
We converted from 2.10 to 1.4.
It was broken on Monday.
Both existing programmes and new compiles.

But, I shall check your reference.

No speak-ah dah COBOL good.
(Haven't written one since 1st year university -- 197x).


-teD
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If you can fake that,
you've got it made!)

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/07/2005 
08:43:45 AM:

 I tried the D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) command and got a display that did not 
tell  me
 how big HSA is, but rather how much of HSA is available for adding more
 configuration changes, such as more control units or subchannels 
 (more commonly
 pronounced devices).

 HSA stands for Hardware System Area, not Hardware Storage Area as I 
wrote  in
 my previous post.

 The info on how many HSAs there are, how big each one is, and its 
beginning
 address is all contained in the Service Call Control Block (SCCB), 
mapped by
 SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB), and pointed to by CVTSCPIN.  Service Call is a 
special
 SVC (I think it is 122) in MVS that invokes the Diagnose instruction to 
read
 hardware configuration info from the floppy disk.  I learned about it by
 perusing some RMF microfiche in 1987.

 The SCCB also has info on various processor features that are installed,
 such as the Performed Lock Operation (PLO) instruction.

 I don't remember any software that displays the SCCB info.   TMON/MVS 
might.
 It should be easy to build code to find and display the  contents or to 
find
 it in a system dump that includes (E)CSA and (E)SQA.

 Since the beginning address of each HSA is a four-byte value (SCCBAHSA), 
it
 appears that all HSAs are allocated from the top down of the 2GB bar.

   D M=HSA   displays any HSA ranges which are described in the SCCB. 
However, in LPAR mode, the SCCB for a logical partition describes only
HSA ranges which are part of a storage increment in that zone.  Usually 
there are none of those, so you will see

D M=HSA 
IEE174I 17.06.09 DISPLAY M 715
HSA STATUS 
NO HSA IN MAIN STORE 


In the archives, see also:

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9902L=ibm-mainP=R70841I=1
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9902L=ibm-mainP=R71439I=1

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Re: Additional DASD devices

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/07/2005 
09:11:25 AM:

 
  UCBs use E/SQA. They will reside above or below the line according to
  the device definition in HCD.
 
  Peter Hunkeler
  Senior IT Specialist, IBM zSeries Technical Sales Support, Switzerland

 E/SQA? I thought they were nucleus resident? Well, back in the day at
 least. I wonder because I did not increase the SQA= parameter in
 IEASYSnn when I added all the Shark devices. Or is SQA automagically
 increased?

  UCBs were nucleus resident back when they were defined by IOGEN
and later MVSCP.  When defined in an IODF, they are in SQA/ESQA.

  Based on the contents of the IODF, IPL processing tries to estimate
the SQA/ESQA requirements for UCBs and some other I/O related control
blocks, and adds this to the initial SQA/ESQA size (the default size 
defined in IEAIPL04 plus the INITSQA in LOADxx, if specified).  UCBs 
get built before the SQA= parameter in IEASYSxx is processed (since we 
need the UCBs for devices containing the data sets in the
PARMLIB concatenation in order to open the PARMLIB concatenation). 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: LLA Question

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/07/2005 
10:09:40 AM:

 In the process of reviewing out LLA libraries it was discovered that
 some libraries were not in LLA. I made the request to out outsourcer
 to add these datasets. Their response was that they are PDSEs and there
 is no advantage to adding PDSEs to LLA, even with the FREEZE option.
 Not that I think they would lie, but are the accurate? If what they say
 is true, is it more efficient to use a PDS and put it in LLA or leave it
 as a PDSE? Being old school I think the former is the better choice.
 Does anyone else have an opinion?

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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/06/2005
   at 10:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

you wouldn't have that problem on UNIX.

Only because it doesn't have the functionality at all.
 
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Re: Console logon(required) and routed MQS commands in a sysplex

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/07/2005
   at 06:05 AM, Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

OA12196 is a Security APAR.  Just as with Integrity APARs, IBM
withholds  details of the problem and the fix to decrease the chances
that someone will find out the details and attack systems that do
not have the fix applied yet.

Quite rightly, IMHO. I've certainly asked for that handling in the
past.
 
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Re: Problem with sms and acs routines

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/07/2005
   at 11:06 AM, Hernández Ballestero Milton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

We are trying to define a pool of discs for maintenance reasons. The
idea is create a storage  class in the dd STORCLAS=SC0001, and then
according to this storage class in the #SGxx we assign the storage
group. The problem that we have its when we use the DD with the
sentence Storage Class, the jcl its ok and we didn't define any unit
or volume in the DD, but the file is allocated in a disk that its not
in the storage group, it's a public disc.

Are you talking about a temporary data set?

It sounds as though the data set is not SMS managed. Check the ACS.
 
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Re: Software keys under VM at DR

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/06/2005
   at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The 'problems' were lawsuits.

I'm not surprised. They had broken promises as to the timeliness of
key updates for DR.
 
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Re: COBOL short variable length files????

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/06/2005
   at 10:31 PM, Joe Zitzelberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Just another case of the system showing its age in the 21st
century...

Not really; I would have considered that behavior to be broken back on
OS/360.
 
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Re: Software keys under VM at DR

2005-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/06/2005
   at 03:45 PM, Johnston, Robert E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Greetings... We are getting ready for our 1st DR exercise (using IBM
BCRS) and I have a question about vendor software keys when running
z/OS under VM on another CPU. Although the CPUID xx in the VM
directory is supposed to take care of the CPU serial number matching
our real CPU serial number, in the IBM BCRS doc they mention checking
with vendors to ensure there are no licensing issues. 

Right: just because it works doesn't mean that the license allows it.
I'd check with your legal staff. Try to get a contract modification
explicitly allowing it.

I am mostly concerned with the keys for our CA products.

The last time I dealt with them they were unable to provide keys
within the promised time. The only way that we were able to get up was
to run under VM with our home CPUID.
 
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Re: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]

2005-06-07 Thread Leonard Woren
 BTW I would love to have MVS 310E as my car number plate
  
 DB2 GUY
 
 Arnie Cashinghino, founder of the CBT Tape, had TURKEY for a license
 plate. The Turkey is the MVS symbol at SHARE.

Once while driving near LAX I saw SYSUT2.  I assume that was the 
household's second car...


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Encryption has its own problems was Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 Jun 2005 04:57:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

 It is nothing less than grossly irresponsible to ship this type of
data  in an unencrypted format.

According to your metric, probably 99.9% of companies worldwide are
grossly irresponsible. I'm not defending them, I'm just saying that in
2005 almost no one encrypts tapes. 

Bob Shannon

While encryption might solve the problem of lost tapes, it has its own
problems.  The ability to decrypt the tape has to be somewhere
separate from the tape and stored for the life of the tape.  Actually
I suspect that making certain that the tape is readable both
physically and logically over the life of the tape is a greater
problem.  If this is a tape to be kept 7 years, then a drive capable
of reading it will have to be available over that period.  The program
that reads the tape must maintain backward compatibility over that
period.  Then the individual files / database unloads / etc. must be
logically accessible.  That means the record layouts / data
descriptions, etc. must be accessible and usable.  Of course if you
take the attitude that you just need the tape but nothing legally
compels you to be able to read it these considerations are
meaningless.  

While I understand that having tapes that can be read by a utility is
an exposure since a Hercules equipped PC with MVS 3.8 can be used to
at least hex print them, getting the tape hardware and then the time
to decipher them isn't completely trivial.  However there are probably
easier ways for people to get interesting information.  The current
issue (vol. 22 issue 1) of 2600, The Hackers Quarterly has several
interesting cases of exposure including a couple of job application
PCs at a major retail chain.  I also note that many of the practices
of major companies resemble those of phishers.  For example, I think
that the ZDnet (Ziff Davis) html newsletter has web bugs.  The other
day I received a promotion e-mail that I believe is from American
Express (I have one of their cards) but I haven't checked it closely
enough.  For a while one of the major banks home page had a link to
x.112.2o7.net, a usage tracking company.  The vulnerability of the
public face of most organizations and the questionable practices of
many in terms of numbing us to dangerous exposures are of far greater
concern to me than the lack of encryption on tapes.  If I were a crook
I would rather steal PC's from an organizations office because the
data is more easily readable.  There have been Canadian instances of
just that as well as instances of misdirected confidential faxes from
banks. 

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Re: DFS SMB Help

2005-06-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Skip Robinson wrote:


First off, I've never issued NET USE. Is that a DOS command?



It is a Windows command. Open a Command Prompt under XP and issue NET 
HELP for details.



This (XP) procedure works consistently in our shop.

- Click on the My Computer desktop icon
- Click on Tools
- Click on Map Network Drive
 



Click, click, click, click, click,  You can't put click into a 
script or program. The suite of 'NET' commands are what's really being 
issued under the covers


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Re: DFS SMB Help

2005-06-07 Thread Skip Robinson
Shouldn't a mouse go squeak? CLICK is what the trap says to the mouse.
Whatever works. I'm not the one having a problem.  ;-)

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.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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 Skip Robinson wrote:

 First off, I've never issued NET USE. Is that a DOS command?
 

 It is a Windows command. Open a Command Prompt under XP and issue NET
 HELP for details.

 This (XP) procedure works consistently in our shop.
 
 - Click on the My Computer desktop icon
 - Click on Tools
 - Click on Map Network Drive
 
 

 Click, click, click, click, click,  You can't put click into a
 script or program. The suite of 'NET' commands are what's really being
 issued under the covers

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TLS FTP

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Gibney
   The latest FileZilla server has beta support for TLS/SSL so I thought 
I'd give it a try using z/OS 1.4 FTP client.

It fails:
EZA1701I  AUTH TLS
334 Using authentication type TLS
EZA2897I Authentication negotiation failed
  The FM and IBMLINK say to turn on SSL tracing by setting an 
ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0x)

I can't figure how to conveniently set this for EXEC PGM=FTP in JCL.
When I try ftp from OMVS, it can't seem to find my RACF keyring.

   I'll RFM some more tomorrow, but I thought I'd ask.

   I expect that we will either decide to purchase a 3rd party (ISV for M$ 
world) SSL capable FTP server, or something. (Https driven from batch :( 
But I'd like to see if I can make FileZilla work.


  I am aware of Open SSH, but it doesn't understand traditional MVS files 
and all our existing FTP jobs start with a  traditional PS file. Seems a 
waste to copy to HFS just to SFTP out.



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Re: TLS FTP

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Crook
Dave,

I haven't tried it with the FTP client, but our FTP server JCL looks like

//FTPD   PROC PARMS='',
//  TZ='NZST-12NZDT,M10.1.0,M3.3.0'
//***
//*
//* Descriptive Name:FTP Server Start Procedure
//*
//***
//FTPD   EXEC PGM=FTPD,TIME=NOLIMIT,
//  PARM='POSIX(ON) ALL31(ON) ENVAR(TZ=TZ) /PARMS'

to set the ENVAR TZ

hth,
Richard.




  
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The latest FileZilla server has beta support for TLS/SSL so I thought
I'd give it a try using z/OS 1.4 FTP client.
It fails:
EZA1701I  AUTH TLS
334 Using authentication type TLS
EZA2897I Authentication negotiation failed
   The FM and IBMLINK say to turn on SSL tracing by setting an
ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0x)
I can't figure how to conveniently set this for EXEC PGM=FTP in JCL.
When I try ftp from OMVS, it can't seem to find my RACF keyring.

I'll RFM some more tomorrow, but I thought I'd ask.

I expect that we will either decide to purchase a 3rd party (ISV for M$

world) SSL capable FTP server, or something. (Https driven from batch :(
But I'd like to see if I can make FileZilla work.

   I am aware of Open SSH, but it doesn't understand traditional MVS files
and all our existing FTP jobs start with a  traditional PS file. Seems a
waste to copy to HFS just to SFTP out.


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Information Technology
Washington State University
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Re: Software keys under VM at DR

2005-06-07 Thread Norman Hollander
If you are specifically talking about CA products, I would call the Support
Desk and ask for Temporary Keys for the D/R test.  I'm not a lawyer; but I
don't believe that using zVM to fake the serial number is a valid license.
LMP keys are usually made available within 24 hours (or less).  You can also
request them at Support-Connect.  When I worked for large Banks and
Utilities, the D/R preparation included contacting all of our ISVs for the
appropriate and valid use of their products for D/R.  This made for a much
smoother D/R test. 

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Subject: Re: Software keys under VM at DR

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/06/2005
   at 03:45 PM, Johnston, Robert E [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Greetings... We are getting ready for our 1st DR exercise (using IBM
BCRS) and I have a question about vendor software keys when running
z/OS under VM on another CPU. Although the CPUID xx in the VM
directory is supposed to take care of the CPU serial number matching
our real CPU serial number, in the IBM BCRS doc they mention checking
with vendors to ensure there are no licensing issues. 

Right: just because it works doesn't mean that the license allows it.
I'd check with your legal staff. Try to get a contract modification
explicitly allowing it.

I am mostly concerned with the keys for our CA products.

The last time I dealt with them they were unable to provide keys
within the promised time. The only way that we were able to get up was
to run under VM with our home CPUID.
 
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Re: REXX under TSO [WAS: TSO replacement? [WAS: RE: Userids]]

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Gould
on 6/6/05 7:00 PM, Ted MacNEIL at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...
 I remember it becoming available in either 1991 or 1992 (early).
 ...
 
 I wrote my first REXX programme in 197x(??).
 
 I wrote my first TSO/REXX in 1990.
 EXECIO only supported FB80.
 
 -teD
 (The secret to success is sincerity.
 If you can fake that,
 you've got it made!)

Ted,

REXX in TSO was only available somewhere around 1990 or later. I remember
distinctly as we were a bleeding edge custome for it not ESP but as soon as
it became available we installed it. I still remember talking with a TSO/e
rexx developer at GUIDE .

We found some interesting bugs . Unfortunetly its been almost 15 years and I
don't remember specifice PTF numbers.

REXX was available on VM for quite some time, I only ran VM 25+ years ago
and that was to run DOS (r26 IIRC) foi our NY office and that was on a
painfully slow 4331..

Ed
 

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread John P Baker
In response to my posting from this morning, several individuals have raised
concerns in respect to encryption.  These concerns clearly have some
validity.

 

At the same time, consider the costs to the individuals whose private
financial records may have been compromised.

 

If the tapes have been stolen, then 3.9 million individuals face the
possibility that their identities will be used to open credit accounts, etc.
It will take years and untold amounts of money to correct the problems.
Will Citigroup pick up all of the direct and indirect costs incurred by
those individuals victimized?  Not too bloody likely!

 

Any company that maintains non-public records of private financial
transaction has a responsibility to ensure that those records are protected
from access by unauthorized persons, whether such access occurs via the
company's data processing systems or by access to copies of those records
located upon some offline media.

 

In particular, the movement of copies of such records from one secure
facility to another must involve additional levels of security above those
required for access to that data within a single secure facility.  Since
physical security measures are clearly not as dependable in the course of
such movement, other processes must be implemented.  Encryption is the
obvious answer.

 

As far as compatibility, XML structured data which has been encrypted using
public key cryptography would be an obvious approach.

 

For example, the Open Financial Exchange specification provides just such a
mechanism.

 

In any case, over the last few months there have been repeated cases where
copies of financial records have been lost.  These losses threaten our
financial infrastructure.

 

STEPS MUST BE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

 

The imposition of such steps may inconvenience some financial institutions.
So what?

 

How will you feel if someone steals your identity and it takes you the next
10 years to clear your name?

 

As a Software Engineer, I have had people ask Why can't you put a stop to
this?  I have to answer that the technology is there, but management lacks
the will to address the problem.

 

When your neighbor becomes a victim of identify theft, what excuse will you
offer?

 

John P Baker

Software Engineer


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SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread Thomas Conley
- Original Message - 
From: Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: SESSION MANAGMENT


John,  a question to your question:  If you don't use a session manager, 
how
do remote users who lose their TN3270 session due to non-mainframe 
problems

(timed-out VPN, blue-screen-of-death, etc.) log themselves off of TSO when
they get back into the network?  In a large organization, you do not want
lots of people calling central operators for session cancels, it clogs the
work arteries way too much.  Where I am, Netview Access (or whatever it is
now called) lets me log myself off TSO when I get back in without needing
any operator intervention.  It's probably the most-used feature, 
considering

you can never get the same LU name coming back in as the one you had
previously, so you always have to get your prior session logged off so you
can logon again under the new LU.

Peter



Peter,

Check out Gilbert St.Flour's IKJEFLN exit at http://gsf-soft.com.  It
doesn't work if you have OPERCMDS active, but Gilbert will be glad to sell
you the fix ;-)  I installed that bad boy on my P390, and finally got
reconnected whenever my DSL dropped.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
The NetView product John M. was refering to is called NetView Access 
Services (NVAS).  It is considered functionally stable and is not 
supposed to  have any major enhancements.


I have never used TUBES (a.k.a. IBM Session Manager), but my 
understaning is the major difference is that TUBES supports sessions to 
non-3270 (vt100/ansi) hosts and NVAS.


D-Arbigny Pierre-Andre wrote:

Hello all,

Does someone know if it exist an other session manager (3270 VTAM) than
TUBES/VTAM (MAcro4) and TPX (CA).

Many thanks for informations.

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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Hanrahan
Mr. Baker,

I find it ironic that the very institutions who are guilty of losing so much
information are marketing identity theft insurance on the accounts they
offer to customers. 

I couldn't agree with you more on the serousness of the situation.

Paul Hanrahan
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Of John P Baker
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Banks


In response to my posting from this morning, several individuals have raised
concerns in respect to encryption.  These concerns clearly have some
validity.

 

At the same time, consider the costs to the individuals whose private
financial records may have been compromised.

 

If the tapes have been stolen, then 3.9 million individuals face the
possibility that their identities will be used to open credit accounts, etc.
It will take years and untold amounts of money to correct the problems. Will
Citigroup pick up all of the direct and indirect costs incurred by those
individuals victimized?  Not too bloody likely!

 

Any company that maintains non-public records of private financial
transaction has a responsibility to ensure that those records are protected
from access by unauthorized persons, whether such access occurs via the
company's data processing systems or by access to copies of those records
located upon some offline media.

 

In particular, the movement of copies of such records from one secure
facility to another must involve additional levels of security above those
required for access to that data within a single secure facility.  Since
physical security measures are clearly not as dependable in the course of
such movement, other processes must be implemented.  Encryption is the
obvious answer.

 

As far as compatibility, XML structured data which has been encrypted using
public key cryptography would be an obvious approach.

 

For example, the Open Financial Exchange specification provides just such a
mechanism.

 

In any case, over the last few months there have been repeated cases where
copies of financial records have been lost.  These losses threaten our
financial infrastructure.

 

STEPS MUST BE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

 

The imposition of such steps may inconvenience some financial institutions.
So what?

 

How will you feel if someone steals your identity and it takes you the next
10 years to clear your name?

 

As a Software Engineer, I have had people ask Why can't you put a stop to
this?  I have to answer that the technology is there, but management lacks
the will to address the problem.

 

When your neighbor becomes a victim of identify theft, what excuse will you
offer?

 

John P Baker

Software Engineer


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Re: Banks

2005-06-07 Thread John P Baker
I do not expect to see financial institutions enacting adequate protections
for these records.  Nor do I expect them to pay for the damage caused by the
ongoing thefts thereof.  Not willingly.

What I expect to see in the future are lawsuits against the financial
institutions, charging gross irresponsibility for their failure to
safeguard the very financial records they have been collecting.

Unfortunately, it will not be the victims of identity theft who are
compensated.  It will be the lawyers.

John P Baker
Software Engineer

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Paul Hanrahan
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 22:44
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Banks

Mr. Baker,

I find it ironic that the very institutions who are guilty of losing so much
information are marketing identity theft insurance on the accounts they
offer to customers. 

I couldn't agree with you more on the serousness of the situation.

Paul Hanrahan

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Re: SESSION MANAGMENT

2005-06-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the tip, Tom.  I'll take a look and ask my sysprogs to consider
it.

Peter

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SESSION MANAGMENT
Snipped

Peter,

Check out Gilbert St.Flour's IKJEFLN exit at http://gsf-soft.com.  It
doesn't work if you have OPERCMDS active, but Gilbert will be glad to sell
you the fix ;-)  I installed that bad boy on my P390, and finally got
reconnected whenever my DSL dropped.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Help - OS/2 consulting help needed

2005-06-07 Thread Nat M
From the look of it, I am presuming its some kind of screen scrapping
application. I think host657 is due to sys3175 of the previous modules. I
would start with DIR /S /O-D to find the last accessed/updated files.

Natarajan

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