Re: 3745 cable pin out.

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Maylone
There was a complete set of manuals shipped with every 3745 and one of them was 
just what you are looking for.  It describes every standard, non-RPQ, cable for 
the 3745 and all its features, complete with IBM Part Number and the pin-out of 
the DCE end of the cables.  AFAIK the manual was the same for all models of the 
3745.

The book wasn't used very often, but if the shipping group of your machine is 
complete it should be there, most likely with the CE-only manuals.

HTH

Mike Maylone

Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can anyone point me to where the various RS232 interconnection
connection cables are documented, to include IBM part numbers and pin
out?



Thanks.



Hal Merritt


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Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-26 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
TISLER Zaromil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]...
 
  It depends on what you call CF mirroring: System Managed Coupling Facility
 Structure Duplexing is supported now. This requires direct links between the
 CF's and these links seem to be limited to 5 km to prevent unacceptable
 delays.
 
 According to System-Managed CF Structure Duplexing, page 32  GM13-0103-05
 (June 2004)
 URL:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/techpapers/pdf/gm13010
 3.pdf 
 
 Recommendation: In a GDPS/PPRC multi-site configuration, do not duplex CF
 structure
 data between coupling facilities located in different sites; rather, if
 desired, duplex the
 structures between two coupling facilities located at the same site. CF
 structure data is not
 preserved in GDPS site failover situations, regardless of CF Duplexing.
 
 There is no newer information on Coupling Facility and the Parallel
 Sysplex
 URL: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/pso/coupling.html 
 
 Regards,
 Zaromil
 

We found the information in:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg246374.pdf
from July 2005, page 13 and 14:

This feature is primarily intended to allow installations to do data
sharing without having to have a failure-isolated CF. However, the design of SM 
Duplexing
means that having the CFs a significant distance (kilometers) apart can have a 
dramatic
impact on CF response times for the duplexed structures.


Kees.


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Re: Is there any XML parser available on z/OS ?

2005-10-26 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I have written a fast XML (SAX) parser in C, which runs on z/OS, callable from 
C, PL/1 or other languages. But I probably will not be able to sell it to you, 
because the development was paid by a customer of mine. But if you really 
want, I can ask them. 

You can use the toolkit or get another open source XML parser and try to port 
it to z/OS, if not already done. But they usually have large footprints and 
do lot of things you probably don't want. Our parser is fast and not very
large (some 1000 lines of source code). 

Kind regards

Bernd



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 On Monday 26 September 2005 04:58 am, CAPRON Romain wrote:
  Hello,
 
 
 
  I would like to know if there is an XML parser available on z/OS?
 
  Thanks a lot in advance for your help,
 
 
 
  Romain

 Enterprise COBOL provides for XML support. You can also download a XML
 toolkit for C/C++ and JAVA XML support.

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Re: Is there any XML parser available on z/OS ?

2005-10-26 Thread Meral Temel
We have used this for our WF for Z/OS software...
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/xml/

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Sysplex Distributor with DVIPA experiences to share?

2005-10-26 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi,

The main benefits of Sysplex Distributor with DVIPA are:
* network-based workload balancing for TCP/IP applications
* non-disruptive application server instance movement
* non-disruptive takeover and takeback of the distributor in case of a TCP/IP 
stack failure 

Q1.
Have you implemented Sysplex Distributor?
Main reason: high (continuous) availability?  workload balancing? both?
Q2. 
What kind of applications?
IMS Connect?  With or without shared queues? Pros, cons in this respect? OTMA 
considerations?
DB2 Connect?
Home-written Connector?
MQ? With MQ clustering? Or MQ shared queues? Pros, cons in this respect?
Q3.
Any experiences to share? nasty, pretty, watch-outs ...
Stability of the involved product set? In other words, is this proven 
technology after 4 years of availability?
Difficulties encountered? I'm pretty sure you have in this TCP connection 
oriented world.
Shortcomings? 

I realize, these are easy questions, with open ended answers.
Anyhow, we are interested in the slightest fdbk you want to share.

Jan



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Changing time Date

2005-10-26 Thread arun kumar
Dear Listers

In my shop, on a z990 box, we have parallel sysplex
with catalog sharing and our systems are on z/OS 1.6.

Java application guys here wants to test his
application in different time zone, time and date from
USS. 

He could managed to get away with timezone by using
the TZ environment variable. Changing time  date
appears to be beyond CLOCKxx and TZ environment
variable.

Can you please tell me whether such a change possibled
time?, as I believe that each z/OS system picksup date
and time from TOD clock or something like that from
the mainframe.

Can date  time be changed without affecting the other
systems in the sysplex?

Is the data  time change is a straight forward one?

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Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-26 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of TISLER Zaromil
 
  When I left IGS in June 2004, CF mirroring was not supported.
  Is it now?
 
 No.

System-managed CF Duplexing is about as close as it gets, so far.  See
Chapter 2 in http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246374.html?Open.

-jc-

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Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-26 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of TISLER Zaromil
 
  It depends on what you call CF mirroring: System Managed Coupling 
  Facility
 Structure Duplexing is supported now. This requires direct 
 links between the CF's and these links seem to be limited to 
 5 km to prevent unacceptable delays.
 
 According to System-Managed CF Structure Duplexing, page 32 
  GM13-0103-05 (June 2004)
 URL:
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/techpapers/pdf/gm13010
3.pdf 
 
 Recommendation: In a GDPS/PPRC multi-site configuration, do 
 not duplex CF structure data between coupling facilities 
 located in different sites; rather, if desired, duplex the 
 structures between two coupling facilities located at the 
 same site. CF structure data is not preserved in GDPS site 
 failover situations, regardless of CF Duplexing.
 
 There is no newer information on Coupling Facility and the 
 Parallel Sysplex
 URL: 
 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/pso/coupling.html 

Interesting.  That recommendation and limitation are not repeated in this
July 2005 Redbook on GDPS:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246374.html?Open

  -jc-

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Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-26 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of TISLER Zaromil
  
   It depends on what you call CF mirroring: System Managed Coupling 
   Facility
  Structure Duplexing is supported now. This requires direct 
  links between the CF's and these links seem to be limited to 
  5 km to prevent unacceptable delays.
  
  According to System-Managed CF Structure Duplexing, page 32 
   GM13-0103-05 (June 2004)
  URL:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/techpapers/pdf/gm13010
 3.pdf 
  
  Recommendation: In a GDPS/PPRC multi-site configuration, do 
  not duplex CF structure data between coupling facilities 
  located in different sites; rather, if desired, duplex the 
  structures between two coupling facilities located at the 
  same site. CF structure data is not preserved in GDPS site 
  failover situations, regardless of CF Duplexing.
  
  There is no newer information on Coupling Facility and the 
  Parallel Sysplex
  URL: 
  http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/pso/coupling.html 
 
 Interesting.  That recommendation and limitation are not repeated in this
 July 2005 Redbook on GDPS:
 
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246374.html?Open
 
   -jc-

Yes, it is, see page 13:
However, the design of SM Duplexing
means that having the CFs a significant distance (kilometers) apart can have a 
dramatic
impact on CF response times for the duplexed structures.

Kees


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Re: Changing time Date

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:31:59 -0700, arun kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Dear Listers

In my shop, on a z990 box, we have parallel sysplex
with catalog sharing and our systems are on z/OS 1.6.

Java application guys here wants to test his
application in different time zone, time and date from
USS.

He could managed to get away with timezone by using
the TZ environment variable. Changing time  date
appears to be beyond CLOCKxx and TZ environment
variable.

Can you please tell me whether such a change possibled
time?, as I believe that each z/OS system picksup date
and time from TOD clock or something like that from
the mainframe.

Can date  time be changed without affecting the other
systems in the sysplex?

Is the data  time change is a straight forward one?

TIAArun


There are various software products that can do this for
MVS jobs, but I don't know if they work for the z/OS
Unix environment.

We still have one LPAR with such a product (HourGlass)
and I just tried adding the DD cards to change the date/time
and ran a rexx program via BPXBATCH and it did nothing.
(that doesn't mean there isn't a way with this product).

Cheers,

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Re: IBM z9 upgrade and the SW pricing benefit

2005-10-26 Thread Marian Gasparovic
You cannot do that. 16 GB is minimum as increments are in 16 GB too.

On 10/25/05, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Butts wrote:

 Yea, sounds great on the surface. But according to my IBM rep you now
 must
 purchase your memory for the z9 in a minimum block of 16Gb!!!
 
 

 You want to buy a shiny new z9-109 with less than 16GB? Heck, we've got
 8GB on our lowly z800 -- and using all of it!

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Re: 3745 cable pin out.

2005-10-26 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/26/2005 2:14:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The book  wasn't used very often, but if the shipping group of your machine 
is complete  it should be there, most likely with the CE-only  manuals.





I called myself looking online, but couldn't find anything.
Do you have a link? 
 
All the 'old' stuff used to come with a hardware reference manual-Pin-outs,  
cable positions, bay numbering, power, ventillation..
Pretty boring stuff unless you needed it.

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Re: DFSORT - rounding up in OUTREC calculations.

2005-10-26 Thread Frank Yaeger
Tim Liddy wrote on 10/25/2005 10:18:46 PM:

 I have a user who is trying to perform some calculations in the
 following  DFSORT OUTREC statement:

 OUTREC=(1:29,44,X,

   (93,4,BI,MUL,+1024,DIV,+56664,DIV,+15),M1,
   (101,4,BI,MUL,+1024,DIV,+56664,DIV,+15),M1,42X)

 He is getting errors as the result of the DIV function is rounded down.

 Is there any way to get the result rounded up if it is  .5, he has
 tried adding 0.5, but gets a syntax error on the decimal point.

Only integers are allowed for arithmetic expressions.  Instead of using .5,
how about using +5 and then dividing by +10?  If you need more help then
that, please give me an example of the values for 93,4,BI and 101,4,BI that
are getting errors as the result of rounding down, what exactly you want to
round up, and what result you want.

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Re: IBM z9 upgrade and the SW pricing benefit

2005-10-26 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Marian Gasparovic wrote:


You cannot do that. 16 GB is minimum as increments are in 16 GB too.
 



Not on z800.

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Re: Changing time Date

2005-10-26 Thread Bruce Black



Can date  time be changed without affecting the other
systems in the sysplex?

I doubt it.  Part of the sysplex concept is a common time source, so 
that all images in the plex are on the same time.  I doubt if you can 
change the time on one image without crashing. 

Back in the late 90s, there were a number of programs which could make 
the time/date appear to be different for specific jobs, for use in Y2K 
testing.  I don't know how many are still around or if they will work 
with Java or USS.  I quick search found this one

  http://www.cobbsmill.com/simdate.htm

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DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Staffan Tylen
Hi. I'm facing a strange problem when generating RMM reports using DFSORT. I
use JCL generated by the ISPF reporting function in RMM. In short, I receive
the following message for a few of the reports whilst other similar reports
work fine:

ICE218A 1 820 BYTE VARIABLE RECORD IS SHORTER THAN 1065 BYTE MINIMUM FOR
 FIELDS

These are the DFSORT control stmts generated by RMM under ISPF:

OPTION VLSHRT,VLSCMP
INCLUDE COND=((5,1,CH,EQ,C'X'),
   AND,
  ((164,8,CH,EQ,C'SHELF'),
   AND,
  (1326,5,CH,LT,C'2')),
   AND,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C'))
INREC FIELDS=(1,4,
  164,8,C' ',
  156,8,C' ',
  9,6,C' ',
  809,44,C' ',
  172,6,C' ',
  318,4,C' ',
  119,10,C' ',
  337,3,C' ',
  1058,8,C' ',
  853,10,C' ',
  863,6,C' ')
SORT FIELDS=(5,8,CH,A,
  14,8,CH,A,
  23,6,CH,A)

I use the extended report file as input, created using the following JCL:

//EDGHSKP  EXEC PGM=EDGHSKP,PARM='RPTEXT,DATEFORM(E)'
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//MESSAGE  DD   DSN=RMM.MESSAGES,DISP=SHR
//XREPTEXT DD   DSN=RMM.XREPORT,DISP=SHR

RMM.XREPORT is allocated as VB/1390/27998. I've analysed the report file
looking for 'short' records with the following result:

   OPTION COPY
   OUTFIL INCLUDE=(1,2,BI,LT,X'0560',AND,5,1,CH,EQ,C'X')
ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5
ICE751I 0 C5-Q95214 C6-Q95214 C7-BASE   C8-Q95214 E9-Q95214 C9-BASE   E5-
Q95214 E7-Q95214
SNIP
ICE235I 0 OPTIONS: NULLOUT=RC0
ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SORTIN
ICE231I 0 STORAGE USED FOR OUTFIL : BELOW 16M = 25600, ABOVE 16M = 2126848
ICE210I 0 SORTOUT  : BSAM USED, LRECL = 1390, BLKSIZE = 27998, TYPE = VB
ICE751I 1 EF-Q95214 CB-Q95214 F0-Q84357 E8-Q95214
ICE055I 0 INSERT 0, DELETE 0
ICE054I 0 RECORDS - IN: 366357, OUT: 366357
ICE227I 0 SORTOUT  : DELETED = 366357, REPORT = 0, DATA = 0
ICE228I 0 SORTOUT  : TOTAL IN = 366357, TOTAL OUT = 0
ICE174I 0 NO DATA RECORDS FOR AN OUTFIL DATA SET - RC=0
ICE052I 0 END OF DFSORT

My conclusion is that there are no 'X' records that are shorter than 1376
bytes (x'560'). However there are records that are 820 bytes long as shown
in the ICE218A message, but they contain a 'V' in pos 5, not 'X'. So why do
I get message ICE218A?

ICETOOL shows the following statistics for the RDW and record type:

 -RDW-   -TYPE-  RECS
--   --   ---
   114   R  25710
   209   H  1
   218   K112
   358   O 96
   512   D 156544
   820   V  25710
  1376   X 158184

I'm running z/OS 1.5 and DFSORT V1R5. Thanks in advance for anything that
can explain what's going on.
Staffan

PS. The following works(!) - only some of the INCLUDE offsets have changed:

OPTION VLSHRT,VLSCMP
INCLUDE COND=((5,1,CH,EQ,C'X'),
   AND,
  ((156,8,CH,EQ,C'SHELF'),
   AND,
  (1326,5,CH,LT,C'2')),
   AND,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
   OR,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
   OR,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
   OR,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
   OR,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
   OR,
  (164,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C'))
INREC FIELDS=(1,4,
  164,8,C' ',
  156,8,C' ',
  9,6,C' ',
  809,44,C' ',
  172,6,C' ',
  318,4,C' ',
  119,10,C' ',
  337,3,C' ',
  1058,8,C' ',
  853,10,C' ',
  863,6,C' ')
SORT FIELDS=(5,8,CH,A,
  14,8,CH,A,
  23,6,CH,A)

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Re: DISP=MOD UNIT=CART/TAPE

2005-10-26 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Janek,

Thanks for pointing this out. It looks like the problem that we had.
Also, I am now signed up to receive future notices - I should have done
that a long time ago...

Robert

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jakubek, Jan
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:40 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DISP=MOD UNIT=CART/TAPE
 
 Today, I received this notification from CA:
 
 Subject: COMPUTER ASSOCIATES PML SOLUTION NOTIFICATION - QI73753
 
 
 
   Title: SECONDARY VOLUMES MAY BE LOST DURING DISP=MOD
 
 Product: 1
 
 Release: 11.0
 
   Opsys: OS
 
  Solution #: 99
 
 
 

http://supportconnect.ca.com/sc/solcenter/solresults.jsp?aparno=QI73753
 
 
 It seems to provide a workaround/ solution.
 Hth ... Janek
 



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Repro VSAM to Tape problem

2005-10-26 Thread Ed. Benoit
Hello, 
I am attempting to copy repro a vsam file to tape and back.  On the copy to 
tape I am getting IEC141I   013-34  The manual give me several options.  What 
am I doing incorrect to copy to tape and back to disk.  Any one have a 
jobstreamt to repro vsam to tape and back to disk. 
The following is my jcl and control cards.

I abend on this step.
//COPYSTEP  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=0K
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
//OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
//  DISP=(NEW,PASS),LABEL=(1,,RETPD=5),
 //  UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),VOL=(,RETAIN)
 //SYSINDD  *
REPRO -
  INFILE(INPUT1) -
  OUTFILE(OUTPU1)

Later in the jobstream I will copy back to disk.
//COPYBACK  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,LT),REGION=0K
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
 //  DISP=OLD,LABEL=1,UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),
 //  VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.COPYSTEP.INPUT1)
 //OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
  //SYSINDD  *
 REPRO -
   INFILE(INPUT1) -
   OUTFILE(OUTPU1)


The following is the instruction from the manual for a return code of 34 
34 
The system detected one of these conditions: 
The following combination was specified: QSAM, MACRF=GD or PD, and a RECFM 
value that is not VS, VBS, DS, or DBS. 
An OPEN macro instruction was issued for a data set with BLKSIZE and BUFL 
equal to 0. The system determined that it had to obtain buffers but was unable 
to 
do so. 
RECFM was specified with both the A and M attributes. 
The following combination was specified: QSAM, LRECL=0, and a RECFM value 
that is not V or VB. 
The following combination was specified: RECFM=V or VB and LRECL greater than 
the quantity BLKSIZE minus 4. 
| The following combination was specified: QSAM and BLKSIZE=0. 
| No nonzero BLKSIZE value was available from any source and 
| the system could not determine one. Coding BLKSIZE=0 in the 
| JCL never has an effect except when overriding a cataloged 
| procedure variable. 
The following combination was specified: RECFM not variable or undefined and 
LRECL greater than BLKSIZE. 
The following combination was specified: BFTEK=A, RECFM=VBS, and LRECL=0. 
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Re: Repro VSAM to Tape problem

2005-10-26 Thread Staller, Allan
Provide approiate DCB parameters for DD OUTPU1 on copystep

snip
//COPYSTEP  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=0K
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
//OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
//  DISP=(NEW,PASS),LABEL=(1,,RETPD=5),
//  DCB=(RECFM=xx,LRECL=n,BLKSIZE=n),INSERT DCB INFO 
HERE.
//  UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),VOL=(,RETAIN) 
//SYSINDD  *
REPRO -
  INFILE(INPUT1) -
  OUTFILE(OUTPU1)
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Re: Repro VSAM to Tape problem

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Savor
In the COPYBACK step, doesn't the Referback need to point to OUTPU1, not
INPUT1 ??

 I abend on this step.
 //COPYSTEP  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=0K
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
 //OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
 //  DISP=(NEW,PASS),LABEL=(1,,RETPD=5),
 //  UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),VOL=(,RETAIN)
 //SYSINDD  *
REPRO -
  INFILE(INPUT1) -
  OUTFILE(OUTPU1)

Later in the jobstream I will copy back to disk.
 //COPYBACK  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,LT),REGION=0K
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
 //  DISP=OLD,LABEL=1,UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),
 //  VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.COPYSTEP.INPUT1)
 //OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
 //SYSINDD  *
 REPRO -
   INFILE(INPUT1) -
   OUTFILE(OUTPU1)

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Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread McGee, Cletus
I am new to this company here and one of the things they do is to shut
the system down on the fall time change and wait one hour before they
bring the system back up. Outside of scheduler issues, is there any
reason to do this? One that keeps coming up is the timestamp on VSAM
files being an issue. Some questions. One does anyone else do this and
if so why? Second, is there real reason why this should happen, if so
what are they?

Or are they just working off one bad past experience.

 

 

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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Wood
Staffan,
 I think you have hit upon a situation that is covered in the DFSORT
Programmers Guide under VLSCMP.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ice1ca10/3.12?
SHELF=EZ2ZO10FDT=20050222160456
If a record is short any binary compare causes a comparison using  hex
zero for the 'missing' field in the short record.  So your LT,'2' is
true even for a short record.
I still do not know why the short record is included because it does not
have 'X' in column 5.

By changing the INCLUDE offsets you have caused different records to be
selected; that doesnt fix the problem, just create a different report :-)

I think a better pair of eyes than mine is required to explain this.

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Jousma, David
Cletus,

The key to all this is that GMT=GMT on your system, and NOT GMT=LOCAL
time.  
If the latter, you will have problems when you change time without
Waiting an hour.  Quite sometime ago IBM time proofed almost 
Everything by using GMT(which doesn't change) for everything.  Of 
Course there were some gotcha's, and there may still be, but from
An OS perspective, going backwards to standard time is no problem.

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Jerry Durbin
Use of time-of-day as a KEY has us shutting down for an hour each year.

Cheers!
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I am new to this company here and one of the things they do is to shut
the system down on the fall time change and wait one hour before they
bring the system back up. Outside of scheduler issues, is there any
reason to do this? One that keeps coming up is the timestamp on VSAM
files being an issue. Some questions. One does anyone else do this and
if so why? Second, is there real reason why this should happen, if so
what are they?

Or are they just working off one bad past experience.

 

 

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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Staffan Tylen
Thanks Mike, the VLSCMP issue MIGHT explain why I get more in the report
than I hoped for (but not quite). In any case, how about this twist to the
problem - if I insert the following DFSORT step to generate a temporary file
from the extract file and use that as input instead, it works!

 OPTION COPY
 OUTFIL INCLUDE=(5,1,CH,EQ,C'X')

Yes, correct! It's the same INCLUDE as in the main run! The world is going
crazy. And even better (or worse) - SYNCSORT and its SYNCTOOL doesn't work
either with the original JCL, and gives the following message:

WER230A  INREC  FIELD OUTSIDE RANGE

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Jerry Durbin said:

 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:48:04 -0600
 
 Use of time-of-day as a KEY has us shutting down for an hour each year.
 
Use GMT instead of local time as the KEY.

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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Frank Yaeger
Staffan Tylen wrote on 10/26/2005 08:26:39 AM:

 Hi. I'm facing a strange problem when generating RMM reports using
DFSORT. I
 use JCL generated by the ISPF reporting function in RMM. In short, I
receive
 the following message for a few of the reports whilst other similar
reports
 work fine:

 ICE218A 1 820 BYTE VARIABLE RECORD IS SHORTER THAN 1065 BYTE MINIMUM FOR
  FIELDS
 snip
My conclusion is that there are no 'X' records that are shorter than 1376
bytes (x'560'). However there are records that are 820 bytes long as shown
in the ICE218A message, but they contain a 'V' in pos 5, not 'X'. So why
do
I get message ICE218A?

The ICE218A is caused by the short record vs the 1058,8,C' ', field in the
INREC statement.  VLSHRT is turned off when INREC is used as indicated by
message:

ICE150I 0 VLSHRT NOT USED FOR SORT, MERGE, INCLUDE, OMIT OR SUM STATEMENT
FIELDS

Without seeing your data, I can only guess that you're getting V records
that have DR2H, DR8H, DR8A, DR8B or DR8C in 156.  Your INCLUDE statement
has ORs for that, so if those ORs are satisfied for records other than X
records, you'll get those other records.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Gabe Torres
Right On Dave,

Just got out of our Time Change Meeting.

For zOS 1.4 Sysplex, all we do is:

At 02:00am, on the SYSPLEX MASTER CONSOLE we enter:
 RO *ALL,T CLOCK=01.00.00

There are some issues we have with subsystems (Omegamon and IPCP), so we
bounce all the Omegamons, and issue
 F TCICS,CEMT PERFORM RESET
 F TCICS,OMEG SHUT
 F TCICS,OMEG INIT 

We 'are' using GMT with the proper offset to the West Coast, and have
been through this time change process a couple of times. 

gabe 


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Cletus,

The key to all this is that GMT=GMT on your system, and NOT GMT=LOCAL
time.  
If the latter, you will have problems when you change time without
Waiting an hour.  Quite sometime ago IBM time proofed almost
Everything by using GMT(which doesn't change) for everything.  Of Course
there were some gotcha's, and there may still be, but from An OS
perspective, going backwards to standard time is no problem.

Dave 



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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Wood
Frank,  The INCLUDE statement used
INCLUDE COND=((5,1,CH,EQ,C'X'),
   AND,
  ((164,8,CH,EQ,C'SHELF'),
   AND,
  (1326,5,CH,LT,C'2')),
   AND,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C'))
should have avoided including any record which did NOT have 'X' in column
5.  Maybe I read the AND and OR logic wrong, but seems that the first 3
fields must all be true, and the final field can be any one of the  6
values.  Will a short record be included regardless of the INCLUDE logic?

Mike Wood   RMM Development

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:19:50 -0700, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
Without seeing your data, I can only guess that you're getting V records
that have DR2H, DR8H, DR8A, DR8B or DR8C in 156.  Your INCLUDE statement
has ORs for that, so if those ORs are satisfied for records other than X
records, you'll get those other records.
/snip

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Matthew Stitt
Mike,
Try putting a set of parens after the third AND.  Close them at the end of
the last OR.  I think you wanted anything with the selected values in 156,8
in addition to the preceding conditions.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:39:55 -0500, Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Frank,  The INCLUDE statement used
INCLUDE COND=((5,1,CH,EQ,C'X'),
   AND,
  ((164,8,CH,EQ,C'SHELF'),
   AND,
  (1326,5,CH,LT,C'2')),
   AND,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
   OR,
  (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C'))
should have avoided including any record which did NOT have 'X' in column
5.  Maybe I read the AND and OR logic wrong, but seems that the first 3
fields must all be true, and the final field can be any one of the  6
values.  Will a short record be included regardless of the INCLUDE logic?

Mike Wood   RMM Development

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:19:50 -0700, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
Without seeing your data, I can only guess that you're getting V records
that have DR2H, DR8H, DR8A, DR8B or DR8C in 156.  Your INCLUDE statement
has ORs for that, so if those ORs are satisfied for records other than X
records, you'll get those other records.
/snip

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Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Frank Yaeger
Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/26/2005 11:39:55 AM:

 Frank,  The INCLUDE statement used
 INCLUDE COND=((5,1,CH,EQ,C'X'),
AND,
   ((164,8,CH,EQ,C'SHELF'),
AND,
   (1326,5,CH,LT,C'2')),
AND,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C'))
 should have avoided including any record which did NOT have 'X' in column
 5.  Maybe I read the AND and OR logic wrong, but seems that the first 3
 fields must all be true, and the final field can be any one of the  6
 values.  Will a short record be included regardless of the INCLUDE logic?

Mike,

Not according to my tests.  I tried it with a record that had a 'V' in 5
and 'DR8H' in 156 and the record was included.  It would require another
set of parentheses after the last AND to work the way you're saying:

...
AND,
  ((156,8,CH,EQ,C'VLT1'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR2H'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8H'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8A'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8B'),
OR,
   (156,8,CH,EQ,C'DR8C')))

With that extra set of parentheses, my test shows the 'V'/'DR8H' record is
not included.

With VLSCMP in effect, the short records are treated as if they are padded
with binary zeros, so they may or may not be included depending on the
specific condition in relation to the binary zeros.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
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Re: 3745 cable pin out.

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Maylone
If that book is available online I have never been able to find it.  The only 
3745 books I've found online are a couple of installation manuals for different 
models and the 150-170 models maintenance manual is or used to be online.

Mike Maylone

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The book  wasn't used very often, but if the shipping group of your machine 
is complete  it should be there, most likely with the CE-only  manuals.





I called myself looking online, but couldn't find anything.
Do you have a link? 
 
All the 'old' stuff used to come with a hardware reference manual-Pin-outs,  
cable positions, bay numbering, power, ventillation..
Pretty boring stuff unless you needed it.



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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:33:12 -0500, McGee, Cletus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I am new to this company here and one of the things they do is to shut
the system down on the fall time change and wait one hour before they
bring the system back up. Outside of scheduler issues, is there any
reason to do this?

Cletus,

We run GMT=GMT and all of our system software can tolerate the change
without waiting an hour. Unfortunately, we have application software that
tracks events with local timestamps and we stay down for the hour because
of that. In our manufacturing processes it is illogical that process B
completed before process A. We have deemed it not worth the trouble to root
out and fix all the affected code. We just take the outage.

-Rob

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Using IBM C

2005-10-26 Thread Frank Chu

Hi All,

I have newbish question regarding IBM C.  Some of the DLLs that I'm looking 
to use are distributed by IBM as HFS and as a member of a PDS.  I'm doing 
most of my editing, compiling and binding in OMVS.  My question is, if I'm 
binding against the HFS version of the DLL and running the program under 
OMVS, can I run the same program using the PDS member of the DLL outside of 
OMVS without having to bind against the PDS version?



Thanks
Frank

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Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??

2005-10-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I want to know if mainframe is an operating system or database server?
 I want to make it clear.

It is a general purpose machine, so it is/can be:
A database server
An application server
A print server
A file server
A web server
A development platform
An e-mail server
. . .

And (unlike most *NIX and all wintel), it can do any combination on the same 
operating image.

It's GENERAL PURPOSE!


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Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??

2005-10-26 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
...But the failure rate for a mainframe is so much lower, it may also
lower job security...;-) and the scalability features may be to much for
upper management to handle :-)

Thanks,
 
Fletch 


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I want to know if mainframe is an operating system or database server?

I want to make it clear.

It is a general purpose machine, so it is/can be:
A database server
An application server
A print server
A file server
A web server
A development platform
An e-mail server
. . .

And (unlike most *NIX and all wintel), it can do any combination on the
same operating image.

It's GENERAL PURPOSE!


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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Wunderlich
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:33 PM
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 Subject: Re: Time change this weekend.
 
 

snip

 
 Cletus,
 
 We run GMT=GMT and all of our system software can tolerate the change
 without waiting an hour. Unfortunately, we have application 
 software that
 tracks events with local timestamps and we stay down for the 
 hour because
 of that. In our manufacturing processes it is illogical that process B
 completed before process A. We have deemed it not worth the 
 trouble to root
 out and fix all the affected code. We just take the outage.
 
 -Rob

Rob,

Has anybody on the other side tried to use this as an argument that
z/OS is so poorly designed that it cannot stand changing the clock
without an outage? Around here, any glitch, however minor, is taken up
by the Windows zealots as yet another reason that we should totally
eliminate the zSeries. And they are winning the war.

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Re: Repro VSAM to Tape problem

2005-10-26 Thread Galambos, Robert
 
Ed

Depending on what exactly you want to do, and if you have File-AID MVS. You
can probably get The File-AID MVS Batch to do your mentioned steps. In fact
chances are that it would run more efficiently as well.


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Subject: Repro VSAM to Tape problem

Hello,
I am attempting to copy repro a vsam file to tape and back.  On the copy to 
tape I am getting IEC141I   013-34  The manual give me several options.
What 
am I doing incorrect to copy to tape and back to disk.  Any one have a
jobstreamt to repro vsam to tape and back to disk. 
The following is my jcl and control cards.

I abend on this step.
//COPYSTEP  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=0K
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
//OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
//  DISP=(NEW,PASS),LABEL=(1,,RETPD=5),
 //  UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),VOL=(,RETAIN)
 //SYSINDD  *
REPRO -
  INFILE(INPUT1) -
  OUTFILE(OUTPU1)

Later in the jobstream I will copy back to disk.
//COPYBACK  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,LT),REGION=0K  //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //INPUT1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI.TAPECOPY,
 //  DISP=OLD,LABEL=1,UNIT=(3480,,DEFER),
 //  VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.COPYSTEP.INPUT1)
 //OUTPU1 DD DSN=RKI.CSI,DISP=OLD
  //SYSINDD  *
 REPRO -
   INFILE(INPUT1) -
   OUTFILE(OUTPU1)


The following is the instruction from the manual for a return code of 34
34
The system detected one of these conditions: 
The following combination was specified: QSAM, MACRF=GD or PD, and a RECFM
value that is not VS, VBS, DS, or DBS. 
An OPEN macro instruction was issued for a data set with BLKSIZE and BUFL
equal to 0. The system determined that it had to obtain buffers but was
unable to do so. 
RECFM was specified with both the A and M attributes. 
The following combination was specified: QSAM, LRECL=0, and a RECFM value
that is not V or VB. 
The following combination was specified: RECFM=V or VB and LRECL greater
than the quantity BLKSIZE minus 4. 
| The following combination was specified: QSAM and BLKSIZE=0. 
| No nonzero BLKSIZE value was available from any source and the system 
| could not determine one. Coding BLKSIZE=0 in the JCL never has an 
| effect except when overriding a cataloged procedure variable.
The following combination was specified: RECFM not variable or undefined and
LRECL greater than BLKSIZE. 
The following combination was specified: BFTEK=A, RECFM=VBS, and LRECL=0. 
Ed.

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We have deemed it not worth the 
 trouble to root
 out and fix all the affected code. We just take the outage.

Has anybody on the other side tried to use this as an argument that
z/OS is so poorly designed that it cannot stand changing the clock
without an outage?
...

It's not z/OS! MVS has been able to handle it since at least 5.2.2.

It's the application code, as the above poster stated.

If you had the same gooberware running under WINTEL, that didn't log properly, 
the OS can't help you there, either.

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/26/2005 3:59:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If you  had the same gooberware running under WINTEL, that didn't log 
properly, the OS  can't help you there, either.




Ever tried to add a 'Time change independent' to an RFP for
gooberwarenobody bids! 

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
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 We have deemed it not worth the 
  trouble to root
  out and fix all the affected code. We just take the outage.
 
 Has anybody on the other side tried to use this as an 
 argument that
 z/OS is so poorly designed that it cannot stand changing the clock
 without an outage?
 ...
 
 It's not z/OS! MVS has been able to handle it since at least 5.2.2.
 
 It's the application code, as the above poster stated.
 
 If you had the same gooberware running under WINTEL, that 
 didn't log properly, the OS can't help you there, either.
 
 -teD

Ted,

You are using LOGIC. Stop that!grin 

Around here, the mainframe is counted as down if there is any
perceived outage, regardless of reason. That includes poor application
design. Or even if a LAN segment dies due to a switch outage (like the
idiot pulled the plug - it's happened!) Oh, this does not apply to the
Wintel boxes. They are only counted as down if the OS is down (e.g. if
MSSQL is down, but the OS is up, then the server is up). Just more
POLITICAL stuff. I was just pointing out that POLITICALLY,
anti-mainframe zealots could try to say It doesn't matter why the
mainframe is down, it only matters that it is down. And, in the given
case, the mainframe is, indeed, down. It doesn't matter why, it just is.
Facts are irrelevant. Perception is reality! Yes, I'm ranting again.
But hopefully for a good cause. To avoid giving the other side any
ammo.

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Time Stamps for Canadian BlackBerry Posts

2005-10-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In a message dated 10/26/2005 3:59:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wad'ya know!

Research In Motion finally fixed their e-mail server.

I sent the message at 4:59Eastern.

It didn't show up as 20Eastern, last night.

That means my posts will finally show up in the correct sequence.

(Of course, I have no idea how long it's been working)
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Create PDS member alias in Rexx

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I have a Rexx EXEC which has worked well for many
years, (with occasional enhancements).  It runs under
IKJEFT01, with a temporary PDS allocated to a DDNAME
(say SYSUT2) in JCL.

It creates members with a SAS utility which supports
the construct dd:SYSUT2(member) for output.

Suddenly I have a requirement to create a directory
alias for member.  TSO RENAME membername aliasname
ALIAS doesn't even come close: SYSUT2 is not catalogued
(and I'd prefer not to catalogue it), and I don't know
its DSNAME (and I'd prefer not to know it).

Any suggestions?  Would ISPF/LMF help me?  Can ISPF/LMF
create aliases?

A following IEBCOPY step will unload the temporary PDS
to tape.  Can I create aliases with IEBCOPY?  Can an
intervening utility create the aliases?

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Re: Time change this weekend.

2005-10-26 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:31:03 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anybody on the other side tried to use this as an argument that
z/OS is so poorly designed that it cannot stand changing the clock
without an outage? Around here, any glitch, however minor, is taken up
by the Windows zealots as yet another reason that we should totally
eliminate the zSeries. And they are winning the war.

No, I haven't heard that one yet. The replace the mainframe arguments
around here are usually about perceived cost, esp software. Folks here are
generally impressed with the uptime and availability of our mainframe and
it's applications.

We won't really keep the OS down for the hour. Just the subsystems and the
entry points.

I have had the Windows crowd give me funny looks when I tell them I have to
POR my box to change the GMT clock. Damm thing drifts a few seconds a month
and there are financial reasons why it can't be more than 10 seconds off
from popcorn (For those of you outside the US, popcorn is the telephone
number you dial to get the official time).

-Rob

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Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 10/25/2005
   at 09:57 AM, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

As far as the outdated part of it, we actually had z/OS systems
programmers at our parent company tell me a few years ago that the
7060 (or any other z/OS machine) doesn't support e-mail. 

I believe that they called themselves z/OS systems programmers. I
don't believe that they actually were.

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Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/21/2005
   at 03:19 PM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Back from the dead? Not unlike Mark Twain's experience, the rumors
of WSA's demise were greatly exaggerated.

The rumors were that it was functionally stabilized. Given it's
current limitations, that's dead in the context of my message.

A rumor got started that Raleigh wanted to stabilize WSA. (BTW, the 
rumor was true. But there's a tremendous difference between wanting
to  do something and actually doing it.) After the product was
relocated to  OZ, the decision was made *not* to stabilize WSA.

Are you sure? If so, that's good news.

In a fairly recent conversation on this subject, the ISPF
development  team in OZ suggested that if I had specific
requirements for WSA, they  would be interested to hear what they
were.

Well, the obvious requirements are

 1. Allow multiline text and block cutpaste operations.

 2. Support WSA on Linux, with CP interoperability for KDE and GNOME.

 3. ATTN support in WSA client.
 
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Re: JES2 input queue priority

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2005
   at 09:28 AM, Nasuh KARAHALLI [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

the system give them a job the number say JOB22540 to JOB1 and let's
say JOB22541 to JOB2 respectively.

I hope that you aren't relying on consecutive job numbers; that isn't
guarantied.

JOB1 and JOB2 start in turn, but JOB2 first,

There is nothing in MVS that requires jobs to run in submission order.
There is something called DJC in JES3, but it isn't automatic: you
must supply control statements to define the sequencing restrictions.
There are exits and modifications to do something similar in JES2,
but, again, you must supply control statements to define the
sequencing restrictions.

If you don't have the Mellon mods or equivalent, you can alway let
JOB1 submit JOB2. If you have a job scheduler, you can define with the
proper sequencing restrictions and submit them through the scheduler.
 
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Re: MGETing PC files with 2 nodes

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
10/20/2005
   at 09:39 AM, Kinney, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

We're trying to do an mget on PC files.  They're in the format;
BLAH1.TXT, BLAH2.TXT, etc.  And we can't rename the PC files. 
(@#$%!!)

Within MVS, is there a way to retrieve these files to a PDS?

Write a script in Perl. First retrieve the directory data, then issue
a separate MGET for each file.
 
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Re: MGETing PC files with 2 nodes

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:

 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:49:46 -0300
 
 We're trying to do an mget on PC files.  They're in the format;
 BLAH1.TXT, BLAH2.TXT, etc.  And we can't rename the PC files.
 (@#$%!!)
 
 Within MVS, is there a way to retrieve these files to a PDS?
 
 Write a script in Perl. First retrieve the directory data, then issue
 a separate MGET for each file.
 
Many FTP clients have the ability to rename members on-the-fly
in the course of MGET or MPUT.  It's ironic that z/OS, which
inflicts a particularly onerous namespace constraint on users,
supports no such facility.

If 8.3 is good enough for DOS users, 8.0 ought to be enough
for z/OS users.

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CA-VTAPE Questions

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Liberatore
Current environment: Running CA-VTAPE version 2.0 shared across multiple Lpars 
Prod, QUAL, TEST). We are planning to implement CA-VTAPE 11 in the net few 
weeks/months. We are also implementing newer naming standards across all LPARS 
to comply with upper manangement directives and management would also like to 
install CA-TAPE on each LPAR (not Shared). Anyway, I have a few questions which 
I hope I can get answers to. They are:

1) Can multiple versions of CA-VTAPE be run on one LPAR? We might not be able 
to share the Global VCAT across all LPARS?

2) if answer to 1 is yes, how can we handle recalls on data that was 
Externalized? Again, we will be using newer data set naming Standard and I'm 
concerned about how to handle recalls of older data sets that did not conform 
to the newer Data set naming standards?

3)Can the older Global VCAT to merged or copied to the newer Global VCAT?

Will probably have more question in the next few days but that is all for now. 
Thanks in advance!!! 

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Re: CA-VTAPE Questions

2005-10-26 Thread Russell Witt
Mike,

I have forwarded your original note to my work email and will have Dean
reply to you tomorrow with answers to your questions. I would recommend
open'ing an issue with level-1 and ask them those questions. We really do
not mind answering how do I or how can I... type questions.

Russell Witt
CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager

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Current environment: Running CA-VTAPE version 2.0 shared across multiple
Lpars Prod, QUAL, TEST). We are planning to implement CA-VTAPE 11 in the net
few weeks/months. We are also implementing newer naming standards across all
LPARS to comply with upper manangement directives and management would also
like to install CA-TAPE on each LPAR (not Shared). Anyway, I have a few
questions which I hope I can get answers to. They are:

...snip...

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Re: PREVENTING TAKING TOO MUCH STOR IN ISPF

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2005
   at 11:41 AM, Steve Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There was one. 

FSVO one larger than the standard value. There were at least three.
The one that I had in mind was TSS/360.
 
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Re: Ron Hawkins please note

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2005
   at 06:36 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

[Ron; sorry to do this so publicly, but
my reply to you bounced back as being
spam blocked and I have no other way
to contact you. Please open my email
to your spam blockers.

Have you spoken to verio about it?

Remote host said: 553 5.3.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Spam blocked
 see: http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?131.103.218.143

If verio is on spamcop then you can expect other problems, but I just
did a query and that IP address wasn't listed. In fact,
http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=131.103.218.143.submit=Lookup
came up negative.

So either verio has fixed the problem or the 553 response gave the
wrong reason.

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Re: TESTAUTH Detection

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/21/2005
   at 10:08 AM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There is also a TSO command, TESTAUTH.

Of course; I was thinking in terms of the macro because it's used so
often. I agree that Keith must have been referring to the command.

Seems like the TMP work area has some bits.

Yes. Does anybody but TEST and TESTAUTH use the TESTRAN bits in the
TCB?
 
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Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/21/2005
   at 10:58 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

You must either have very good eyesight or a very large monitor.
Anything  over 43 lines, and I'm squinting at the screen.

I can't speak for Ed's eyes, but I never had trouble reading two side
by side 62x80 partitions, or one 62x160 partition. That was on a 17
panel; these days you can do better.

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Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/22/2005
   at 12:04 AM, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Every mod 5 I've ever used was 132*27. But on the 3180 and some other
 models, the screen size was variable under program control
regardless of  the model setting.

nit
The 3180 model setting allowed 4 basic values and four extended
values; you could only force the configuration with BIND for the
extended model numbers. I don't recall whether explicit partition was
supported for the basic model numbers, but I suspect not. /nit
 
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Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/22/2005
   at 09:45 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Would this support concurrent sessions with different
active TIOTs?

No.

Is this the dreaded ISPGUI?

It's related.

I'd favor an approach which writes classic 327x data streams to a 
socket, and instructions for modifying an open-source x3270 client
to function as an agent.

That also would not this support concurrent sessions with different
active TIOTs.

The ISPGUI window was just plain ugly.

That doesn't mean that IBM couldn't fix it.

But does (did?) WSA support dynamic resizing of the window?

Yes, AFAIK.
 
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Re: TSO EDIT command

2005-10-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/21/2005
   at 06:25 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Huh? Edit macros are available under TSO EDIT? 

Yes.

You mean like ISREDIT?

Had I meant ISREDIT then I would have written ISREDIT, ISPF or PDF.

So where can I read about TSO EDIT edit macros? I don't see any 
discussion about them in the TSO Commands reference doc.

Read up on the EXEC subcommand of EDIT.

The stuff in this doc is not edit macros in the
sense I find practical; is this what you were
alluding to?]

No; I'm alluding to a file containing a CLIST or REXX program, called
from within EDIT and generating EDIT subcommands. They've been around
for decades and I'm fairly certain that some are in SAMPLIB; I'm
positive that some are on the CBT tapes.
 
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Re: Create PDS member alias in Rexx

2005-10-26 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 26, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


-SNIP---



My DDNAME isn't always SYSUT2, but that's what the alternate
DDNAME list parm is for.



Gil,

The default DDnames (in IEBCOPY are sysut1 and sysut2) they can be 
almost any ddnames you want, you select the ddnames with the copy(mod) 
statement eg I=syst1,o=sysut2 .. read the write up the the dfp 
utilities manual.



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Re: Create PDS member alias in Rexx

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Gould said:

 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:59:29 -0500
 
 The default DDnames (in IEBCOPY are sysut1 and sysut2) they can be
 almost any ddnames you want, you select the ddnames with the copy(mod)
 statement eg I=syst1,o=sysut2 .. read the write up the the dfp
 utilities manual.
 
Yah.  Do it regularly.  But it doesn't create aliases for me.  But I
got IEBGENER working.  (Want to see a lot of allocation messages?!)

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