Re: Cascading FICON director with DASD and TAPE devices

2007-02-02 Thread Ron Hawkins
Tom,

As long as I can remember REWIND is done disconnected from the channel, but
the 3480 is the first drive I looked at for performance. 


Ron

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> 
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:42:04 +0800, Ron Hawkins wrote:
> 
> >Bruce,
> >
> >My recollection is that tape drives would use DC Interlock mode and when
> all
> >you had was a primary and secondary B&T channel this would seriously
> impact
> >the DASD. I think the 3480 was the last drive that wasn't pure Data
> >streaming.
> >
> 
> I'll defer to your experience with mixing tape and dasd, but I'm
> pretty sure that data streamiong has nothing to do with it.  IIRC,
> data streaming applies only to data transfer operations.  One of
> the notorious problems with old tape drives was with rewind and
> forward space file, both of which remained connected until the
> operation was completed.
> 
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Re: Z/900 How to Test Daylight Savings Time Mods

2007-02-02 Thread Don Poitras
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> In a recent note, Mark House said:

> > Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:51:20 -0600
> > 
> > Daylight Savinggs Time change.  Anyone have any suggestions,on how to test
> > the modifications without manually changing the clock on the SE, and
> > performing a  Power On Reset.   Are there any products/utilities that
> > would make this possible.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks for the
> > time.
> > 
> Create a file with

> TZ=GMT0 touch -t 200703111200 foo.testfile

> List it with

> ls -l foo.testfile

> Verify that the time appears to be 07:00 for CDT rather than 06:00
> for CST.

I like it. I was going to suggest writing an LE program that converts
dates from GMT to local and just pick periods for all the edge conditions,
but this is simpler.

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Re: TRSMAIN question

2007-02-02 Thread Tony Harminc
McKown, John wrote:

> Is there any documentation on the compression algorithm used by TRSMAIN?

The terse algorithm is explained in IBM's US patent 4814746 from 1989,
easily viewable at http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4814746 . The
patent contains a PL/I program that is claimed to implement the "invention",
though I doubt that it would directly interoperate with implementations like
TRSMAIN. And since, of course, this is a patent, presumably in the US and
perhaps other countries where software patents are granted, there would be
constraints if you did write something using the information therein. It
isn't clear to me, however, that the patent has anything to say about
decompression, so perhaps implementing that would be OK. But I'm not a
patent attorney, etc. etc. so please don't bet your company on this...

There are also claims out there on the net that the terse algorithm is
really "the same as" LZW, which is also patented, and which I understand is
the algorithm that got the GIF graphics format into much trouble some years
ago.

There are implementations of terse for all sorts of platforms, but IBM
doesn't seem to distribute them for much beyond MVS and VM. If you do some
severe Googling, you may find, of all things, an OS/2 16-bit version (that
will run under Windows), and perhaps even a 32-bit Windows version.

There appear to be several flavours of terse, which do or don't handle
things like ASCII-EBCDIC and codepage issues, mainframe-only things like
PDSs, and various other options.

> And is there anyway to ftp that to an ASCII based server and uncompress
> it? Yes - this relates to my previous question about RACF IRRADU00
> reformatted records.

If you can find an implementation for your platform of choice that
understands the mainframe version's options, then sure. But then you still
have to process those mainframe records on that platform, which may well be
the harder part.

Tony H.

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[NOT OT] Collection Classes

2007-02-02 Thread Bill Klein
Given the recent (ongoing) threads about Java, C#, C++ etc in
comp.lang.cobol, I 
thought I would mention that J4 has *finally* turned over the "OO
Collection 
Classes Technical Report" to the ISO people.  I expect to get an
announcement 
soon about when the "official" national body ballot will be happening.
If you 
are interested in reading the draft, it is available at:

 http://www.cobolstandard.info/j4/files/06-0201.doc

The relevance (to me) of this to the ongoing comp.lang.cobol threads is
that the 
Micro Focus position (which I agree with, but others certainly may NOT)
is:

Object Oriented COBOL does not (and probably never will) live in an
"Object 
Oriented vacuum".  It would be much, MUCH better if COBOL provided all
(any 
missing) facilities to interact with the "collection classes" (as well
as other 
objects, classes, and methods) provided by more popular (dominant?) OO
languages 
than to provide its own language-specific collection classes.
Therefore, as 
previously mentioned here (and at J4), Micro Focus will be opposing this
draft 
Technical Report *and* adding this language specific solution to a
future COBOL 
Standard.

If anyone who reads this comp.lang.cobol post would like me to "keep
them 
informed" (off-list) of the progress of this TR and/or how to send their

comments (PRO *or* CON) to the appropriate national Standards body,
please send 
me an email "off-list".

P.S.  Nothing in this note should be read as a personal "endorsement" of
the 
current (or past) ANSI/ISO COBOL process.  However, as this *IS* an
"ongoing" 
process, I still believe that getting "real world user" input is a good
thing - 
whether it actually has any impact is simply another matter .

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Graeme Gibson

Just worked for me.

Graeme.

At 08:50 PM 2/2/2007, you wrote:

Am I somehow alone or is LookAt down for everybody?

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/

"Our apologies... The page you requested cannot be displayed"

Yes I've "done" the "Get assistance" FWIW.

Chris Mason


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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Skip Robinson
Tell me about it. I undertook to pump beer through the house so I could 
refill my mug without having to leave the bathtub. Demultiplexing never 
did work right. 

Good news is that the guys who come over for Superbowl don't seem to mind 
much. They can't tell it from Millweiser Delight. 

Bad news is that's only one day a year.

.
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> 
> I never heard of FDM being described as "in effect, one 
> copper wire transformed into multiple virtual copper wires." 
> I guess teleprocessing folk of the past lacked imagination.

Now, if plumbers could adapt that technique, we wouldn't need separate
hot- and cold-water pipes in our houses.  :-)

They already have the "multiplexer"; designing the "demultiplexer" will
be the real bear.

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Re: SDK for Java 1.3

2007-02-02 Thread McKown, John
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> UK19599 - SDK for Java version 1.3.1 Service Refresh 27 
> (SR27)is now PE. 
> Required fix for DST. 
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>   USERS AFFECTED:
>   Users who utilize BOTH the resettable features of the Java
>   Virtual Machine (JVM) AND the Java Cryptography Extension (JCE).   

Why use 1.3.1 I just installed 1.5.0.

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Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

2007-02-02 Thread John Kington
IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 02/02/2007
01:00:39 PM:

> Greetings.  Has anyone played with taking the output of DFDSS logical
> dataset backups and FTP'ed them off the mainframe and onto a network lan
> location.  We have an application that wants to take several backups

Michael,
I *strongly* recommend you use trsmain. DSS expects a short block at the
beginning of the file to mark it as something it produced. ftp to another
platform tends to cause where blocks begin and end to be lost and DSS
will have nothing to do with a file that does not have that short block.
TRSMAIN will rebuild it back to original condition. It always works for
me.
Regards,
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SDK for Java 1.3

2007-02-02 Thread Phil Knight
UK19599 - SDK for Java version 1.3.1 Service Refresh 27 (SR27)is now PE. 
Required fix for DST. 
PE INFORMATION:
  PTF UK19599 (Java 1.3.1 HJVA130 SR27) is in Error.
 
  USERS AFFECTED:
  Users who utilize BOTH the resettable features of the Java
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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Thanks. After RTFMing many many MF's this clarity is appreciated... 


Lat I knew, Hipersockets supported only IP.  You can easily get TCP/IP
to use it, but then you have to get VTAM to use IP - hence Enterprise
Extender, hence APPN connectivity.

Don't be mislead by the Hipersockets support parms in VTAM.  VTAM
provides the DataLink Control support for both SNA (i.e., VTAM) and
TCP/IP.  The Hipersockets support (Internal QDIO) is strictly for TCP/IP
(unless things change a lot while I wasn't watching.)


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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:35:53 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>...
>... so sanity would appear to have been restored.
>...

They decided to insource the support again?  NO.  I guess that part hasn't
been restored yet.  Sanity has been partially restored.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:16:12 -0600, Staller, Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>...
>NJE/IP using HIPERSOCKETS will eliminate about 80 percent of the
>traffic. The remainder is a small amount of TSO/VTAM (mostly for
>sysprogs). From some more reading of the FM's, is seems that a
>modification of the TRL will suffice.
>
>My plan is to replace the TRL pointing to the 2216 with one pointing to
>the HIPERSOCKET network. Is this feasable?
>Any gothca's?
>...

Lat I knew, Hipersockets supported only IP.  You can easily get TCP/IP to
use it, but then you have to get VTAM to use IP - hence Enterprise
Extender, hence APPN connectivity.

Don't be mislead by the Hipersockets support parms in VTAM.  VTAM provides
the DataLink Control support for both SNA (i.e., VTAM) and TCP/IP.  The
Hipersockets support (Internal QDIO) is strictly for TCP/IP (unless
things change a lot while I wasn't watching.)

Pat O'Keefe

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DFHSM and tape utilization

2007-02-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
   I had hoped this might get better with z/OS 1.7, but it hasn't or I'm
missing something in TFM.
   Every time we roll DFHSM, it looks at how much data is on each tape,
calculates some kind of number (average?) and thinks that is the "reuse
capacity". This number can be highly skewed down by a few newer tapes
that aren't full yet.
  This skew down messes with recycle percentages and efficient use of
new tapes.

  Is there a way to TELL DFHSM the number to use for reuse capacity that
I've missed?

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Sample

Fortunately the newspaper I am now going to have to go and read has cost
part of a tree in its fabrication.


We recycle a lot these days so it might be a pretty old tree!

Robert Sample

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Re: dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

2007-02-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Judy,

You'll find the location of the data class source at ISMF option 7.5

 CDS Name  : ACTIVE

 

 ACS Rtn   Source Data Set ACS  MemberLast Trans  Last Date
Last Time
 Type  Routine Translated from  Name  Userid  Translated
Translated
   ---    --  --
--
 DATACLAS  xxx.x..ACSLIBDCNEW 2006/04/03
08:27 

As Matthew suggests, you'll have to decipher the logic and make whatever
alterations as needed.
I might also suggest taking the DFSMS Implementation class from IBM.

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Subject: Re: dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

HSM has nothing to do with Dataclass settings.  This is handled by the
ACS routines that SMS runs every time a dataset is allocated.  Try to
find the file where the source for the ACS routines are stored and
decipher the logic.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:31:23 -0600, Judy Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm not a novice with HSM but I don't know all the answers. How do you 
>set up an "account's" criteria.
>
>thanks,
>
>Judy Ellis

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Re: dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

2007-02-02 Thread Matthew Stitt
HSM has nothing to do with Dataclass settings.  This is handled by the ACS
routines that SMS runs every time a dataset is allocated.  Try to find the
file where the source for the ACS routines are stored and decipher the logic.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:31:23 -0600, Judy Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm not a novice with HSM but I don't know all the answers. How do you set
>up an "account's" criteria.
>
>thanks,
>
>Judy Ellis

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Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

2007-02-02 Thread Matthew Stitt
This will work as long as it is MVS-MVS and the correct options are used. 
But MVS-anything else is full of peril.  Hence my pointer on using
compression before/after the FTP(s).

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:01:17 -0500, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Matthew,
>
>I know in 2000 that I FTP'ed a DFSMSdss dump without compression, but
>can't for the life of me, find the JCL I used. I do remember that it was
>only a mod-3, took about 20 minutes and saved someone a lot of
>embarrassment as it was the only missing backup on a datacenter
>consolidation weekend.
>
>Your suggestion on the archives is best.
>
>Bob Richards
>
>
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>Behalf Of Matthew Stitt
>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:14 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps
>
>The best bet on this area is to check the archives of IBM-MAIN.  The FTP
>of
>this type of data has been discussed almost to death a few times.
>
>The only way this will work is to use TERSE or some other type of
>compression on the ADRDSSU output file before using FTP.  That also
>means
>you will need access to the de-compress side of the compression utility
>on
>the other side before you can attempt to run the restore.
>
>On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:00:39 -0600, Michael Wickman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Greetings.  Has anyone played with taking the output of DFDSS logical
>>dataset backups and FTP'ed them off the mainframe and onto a network
>lan
>>location.  We have an application that wants to take several backups
>>during the day and have them for disaster recovery.  Right now our
>>backups on tape only gets shipped offsite twice a day, but if we can
>>trust the lan drive, they have a data replication process that would
>>have the data offsite without the tape handling.  We will be testing to
>>see if the 8 GB ftp can be done in the various windows for each backup.
>>I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this?

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Re: dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

2007-02-02 Thread Judy Ellis
I'm not a novice with HSM but I don't know all the answers. How do you set 
up an "account's" criteria.

thanks,

Judy Ellis

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Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

2007-02-02 Thread Richards.Bob
Matthew,

I know in 2000 that I FTP'ed a DFSMSdss dump without compression, but
can't for the life of me, find the JCL I used. I do remember that it was
only a mod-3, took about 20 minutes and saved someone a lot of
embarrassment as it was the only missing backup on a datacenter
consolidation weekend. 

Your suggestion on the archives is best.

Bob Richards 


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matthew Stitt
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

The best bet on this area is to check the archives of IBM-MAIN.  The FTP
of
this type of data has been discussed almost to death a few times.

The only way this will work is to use TERSE or some other type of
compression on the ADRDSSU output file before using FTP.  That also
means
you will need access to the de-compress side of the compression utility
on
the other side before you can attempt to run the restore.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:00:39 -0600, Michael Wickman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Greetings.  Has anyone played with taking the output of DFDSS logical
>dataset backups and FTP'ed them off the mainframe and onto a network
lan
>location.  We have an application that wants to take several backups
>during the day and have them for disaster recovery.  Right now our
>backups on tape only gets shipped offsite twice a day, but if we can
>trust the lan drive, they have a data replication process that would
>have the data offsite without the tape handling.  We will be testing to
>see if the 8 GB ftp can be done in the various windows for each backup.
>I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this? 
  
  
  
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Re: Time Zone query for remote users API in LE or z/OS for PL/I

2007-02-02 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Hi List,



 Here is what we are going to do. We'll write a Java Stored Procedure for DB2 
to use the Java API for the timezone and whenever application needs this 
service (IMS, CICS, Batch) it should call the DB2 Stored Procedure and we are 
done.

 If there were any changes in the timezone database, they will be applied by 
Java Maintenance, espessially for the daylight savings time changes which might 
be different and in different parts of the world this change might be on 
different days.



Thanks.

Denis Gäbler.

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   As you have observed, most UNIX systems, other than the atavistic z/OS
Unix System Services, employ the zoneinfo database, described in

   Linkname: Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data
URL: http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.html

This database is distributed with the z/OS DCE product; you may
find it in:

/usr/lpp/dce/etc/zoneinfo

AFAIK, only DCE uses this, and Java uses whatever it uses.  Ignoring
zoneinfo is a more serious problem with the changes in the Daylight
Saving Time schedule legislated in the U.S.: once the LE APAR 
(PK24076 ?) is applied, time zone offsets for some dates on Fall,
2006 will be wrong; without the APAR time zone offsets for some
dates in Spring, 2007 will be wrong.  Once we have the APAR applied
I'll start a PMR on the Fall, 2007, problem, and attempt this into
a Requirement for zoneinfo in z/OS Unix System Services.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread R.S.

Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
I use search shelf.  Don't need to know which book. 


I'm still using the Library Reader which does not support
searching in all bookshelves but only within one at a time.
So I still need to decide in which bookshelf to search.


Yes it does. 
You need to do one of the following:
a) simply search Messages and Codes bookshelf (recomended)
b) create your own bookshelf. I *always* create some bookshelves 
whenever I refresh the documentation. I create the following bookshelves:

1. "The best of" - my (and my team) "bestsellers".
2. "All the books on DVD" - just to have a list of all possible book 
titles. Usually I delete many unneeded books, like Airline Control 
System, BTLS, IMS (we don't use it, only two shops in Poland use it).
3. "All books on the file server/notebook" - subset of list2 - without 
deleted books.
The last one can be used to search every book in the library. However it 
can be time-consuming.


Last but not least: if you really have no idea where to search, the 
Google is your friend.


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Re: ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

2007-02-02 Thread Matthew Stitt
The best bet on this area is to check the archives of IBM-MAIN.  The FTP of
this type of data has been discussed almost to death a few times.

The only way this will work is to use TERSE or some other type of
compression on the ADRDSSU output file before using FTP.  That also means
you will need access to the de-compress side of the compression utility on
the other side before you can attempt to run the restore.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:00:39 -0600, Michael Wickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Greetings.  Has anyone played with taking the output of DFDSS logical
>dataset backups and FTP'ed them off the mainframe and onto a network lan
>location.  We have an application that wants to take several backups
>during the day and have them for disaster recovery.  Right now our
>backups on tape only gets shipped offsite twice a day, but if we can
>trust the lan drive, they have a data replication process that would
>have the data offsite without the tape handling.  We will be testing to
>see if the 8 GB ftp can be done in the various windows for each backup.
>I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this? 

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ftping of DFDSS logical dataset dumps

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Wickman
Greetings.  Has anyone played with taking the output of DFDSS logical
dataset backups and FTP'ed them off the mainframe and onto a network lan
location.  We have an application that wants to take several backups
during the day and have them for disaster recovery.  Right now our
backups on tape only gets shipped offsite twice a day, but if we can
trust the lan drive, they have a data replication process that would
have the data offsite without the tape handling.  We will be testing to
see if the 8 GB ftp can be done in the various windows for each backup.
I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this? 

 

 

 


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Re: dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

2007-02-02 Thread Jack Kelly
There is no default data class. Your account can set a "default", e.g. if 
other criteria are not met, but there is not a default sms data class. If 
a data class is not set, then the value would be null.

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Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone knows DFSMS DATA CLASS default settings? The 
reason why I ask is because I have no DATA CLASS parameters defined on one 

lpar for DB2 data sets, which SPAN to mulitple volumes. On the other lpar, 

I do have a DATA CLASS defined that did not use EEXTNDED ADDRESSABILITY 
and 
a REORG failed becuase it could not span volumes.

I am assuming that the DATA CLASS default is EXTENDED ADDRESSABILITY. Can 
anyone verify that for me. I could not find anything in the manuals.

regards,

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dhsms DATA CLASS defaults

2007-02-02 Thread Judy Ellis
Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone knows DFSMS DATA CLASS default settings? The 
reason why I ask is because I have no DATA CLASS parameters defined on one 
lpar for DB2 data sets, which SPAN to mulitple volumes. On the other lpar, 
I do have a DATA CLASS defined that did not use EEXTNDED ADDRESSABILITY and 
a REORG failed becuase it could not span volumes.

I am assuming that the DATA CLASS default is EXTENDED ADDRESSABILITY. Can 
anyone verify that for me. I could not find anything in the manuals.

regards,

Judy Ellis

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:38:05 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of WalterR
>>
>> [ snip ]
>> >
>> With QW, after entering "QW" on the ISPF command line you
>> simply position the cursor on/over the message code (for
>> which you can use the mouse) and .
>
>If your emulator is "properly" configured, you need only double-click on
>the message ID and QW retrieves the explanation.  "Properly" in context
>means that double-click sends the 3270  AID (Bluezone does that
>by default).
>

Or if you use VISTA, use this handy macro. I apologize for not 
giving credit to the author, it was given to me by I think
John Kalinich who I think got it from someone else.  

Change "V1R8" in the URL to whatever release you need. AS the comments
say, I used "left shift + double click left mouse" and it opens lookat
in my browser for the message.   Very handy if you don't have QuickRef.

Sorry for the code wrap.  

**
*   LookAt Macro - Searches IBM Message help for the message id at the
cursor position.
**
* Edit a mouse key to point to this macro (for example, a shift-left double
click)
* get the word at the cursor position 
Key("MoveCursor")  ;* move cursor to mouse position
Key("SelectWord")  ;* select word at mouse position
msgid = Screen(StartRow,StartCol,EndCol-StartCol+1)  ;* get selected text
*--- Build up the URL *
url =
"http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/os390/lookat.cmd?&release=ZOS%2FV1R8&msgid=";
+ msgid  ;* form URL

* Invoke the browser ---*
ShellExecute("open",url,"","",1) ;* open page in browser
exit

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Re: 1.7 Strange Behavior

2007-02-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: 1.7 Strange Behavior
> 
> 
> We're tailoring and playing with our new system, but hit a 
> weird condition 
> in our 1.4 maintenance system. ONe of the team is installing 
> panvalet 14.5 
> and all is well until we IPL. TCPIP gets an out of storage 
> message and 
> quits, period, with no error message. I think the number is 
> like IEF820I, 
> reason code 20.
> 
> When we remove Panvalet references in IEFSSN00, linklist, and 
> apf list, 
> all is happy again.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this behavior where Panvalet 14.5 is 
> concerned? I've 
> asked the programmer to contact CA as well.
> 
> Thank you all in advance.

Check the REGION= on the TCPIP proc. Most likely the PANVALET subsystem
is using up some below-the-line storage and the TCPIP proc is getting an
S822-20 REGION NOT AVAILABLE error. You might want to use REGION=0M
instead of an actual value.

Panvalet, IIRC, does not support 31-bit storage at all. It is moribund
and CA likely is spending $0.00 of your money on supporting Panvalet.

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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Allan

The reason you were able easily to convert your NJE to be IP-based is that
NJE now offers a direct socket interface to the IP network.[1] One can say
that NJE has been IP-enabled.

The same is not true in the case of TSO which requires to use a VTAM API
interface to the SNA network. The closest equivalent to TSO with an
IP-enabled application is the z/OS UNIX Telnet server (otelnetd). I don't
expect that necessarily meets all the requirements of your system
programmers - but perhaps it does some.

Reflecting on your post - as one does taking a shower  - there came to
mind the famous Irish "local" who, when asked how to get somewhere replied
something like "Well now, if I was wanting to go there, I wouldn't be
starting from here, so I wouldn't."

In more prosaic language, the question is "What do you *really* want to do?"

I have a vision of your system programmers sitting at their desks with a PC
in front of them. The PC will have a TN3270 (possibly -E) emulator which can
start multiple connections to a number of TN3270 servers and a connection
with each server can be selected from the "Start" "tab" - or equivalent -
and can be resumed after "minimising" from an identifying "tab" in the "task
bar" - or equivalent.

So with your IP network extending from each of your LPARs to the PCs on your
system programmer's desk, why not just enable the Communications Server
TN3270 server in as basic a way as you like on each of your LPARs.[2] And
you can do all of this with z/OS V1R4 as well as z/OS V1R7.

Just a thought.

Incidentally if the IP path from your system programmer's desk to any one
LPAR happens to pass between LPARs it may well find itself using your
HiperSockets connection so you will have achieved your objective. I guess
this means you will have "started from here".

The trouble is I worked out the above only after I had speculated on what
might be the minimal implementation of APPN - in order to support Enterprise
Extender as Pat indicated - which would meet the requirement of supporting
just your TSO applications on your LPARs. If my idea of connecting to each
individual LPAR's z/OS image through a local TN3270 server doesn't meet your
requirements, please post again.

Another qualification is that I am taking into account your later post
indicating that all other SNA traffic involving your "glass house", if there
ever had been any, has been somehow migrated already. That is, there is no
SNA CICS, SNA IMS and so on.

Note that it's always best to keep discussions "online" since it feeds the
archives with information which may turn out to be useful.

[1] Washington Systems Center Technical Bulletin Network Job Entry Formats
and Protocols for System/370 Program Products GG22-9373 June 1986 used to be
the book which defined NJE protocols. With the introduction of IP support,
this book has been revived, with additions, as Network Job Entry Formats and
Protocols SA22-7539 which you will find on the online bookshelves together
with the JES2 manuals from V1R7.

[2] Often the requirement for customers wanting to dispense with SNA is to
be able to limit SNA to the "glass house" with IP tentacles reaching out
into the world at large. What I have suggested here is that the SNA network
which TSO insists on using will be limited to logic within each LPAR, never
even seeing the artificial light of the "glass house" - although, come to
think of it, that applies also to HiperSockets paths.

Chris Mason

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> We have multiple LPARs in a single CEC and have just migrated our
> NJE/SNA connections routed over a 2216 switch
> to NJE/TCPIP over HIPERSOCKETS (works like a champ).
>
> We would next like to migrate our TSO VTAM cross LPAR routing over
> hipersockets also.
>
> Can anybody post a sample of working SNA defintitions to perform the
> same routing for TSO/VTAM.
>
> I have RTFM'ed many FM's and I am getting very confused.
>
> Fell free too contact me offline if necessary.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Al

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1.7 Strange Behavior

2007-02-02 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We're tailoring and playing with our new system, but hit a weird condition 
in our 1.4 maintenance system. ONe of the team is installing panvalet 14.5 
and all is well until we IPL. TCPIP gets an out of storage message and 
quits, period, with no error message. I think the number is like IEF820I, 
reason code 20.

When we remove Panvalet references in IEFSSN00, linklist, and apf list, 
all is happy again.

Has anyone else seen this behavior where Panvalet 14.5 is concerned? I've 
asked the programmer to contact CA as well.

Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Doubt about Server Pac and Catalogs

2007-02-02 Thread Rick Fochtman

Tom Marchant wrote:


On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:52:13 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote:

 


Mark, I always renamed my DLIB datasets to a different HLQ, just to keep
them in a different catalog. That way, I could maintain multiple
targets, each with its own master catalog, and not have to worry about
whether the DLIBs were catalog-accessable from that image.

   



So you had DLIB1.AMODGEN, DLIB2.AMODGEN, etc.?  I'd rather catalog
SYS1.AMODGEN on &SYSRn (whatever the DLIB volume is that corresponds
to that target).  And of course, for SMP/E, the DDDEFs all point to
the volume serial.

Another master catalog for each target zone?  I see more problems
than benefits.

 


Politics. "Nuff said???

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 2/2/2007 8:17:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Pretty  pathetic response. How about fall back to the old until we can
get this  resolved!!



>>
Seems like they'd send a heads up to the branches? Maybe they did and  nobody 
was there to receive it...doesn't anybody see a need for testing these  
changes? Maybe there's an opportunity to implement ipswitch pro in the  
managers 
offices... Seems like a pseudo-technology company that broke the  records for 
patents in 2006 could find a way not to disgrace itself with
widespread chaos But again maybe that's the  plan  

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Re: Who intercepted SVC 26?

2007-02-02 Thread Steven Conway
Bruce Black posted:
>>Ur welcome.  FDRDEBUG has a lot of other function as well.


Great stuff, Bruce.  Thanks again.

I wonder what other products we have in-house have nifty, not-obvious 
commands and/or displays.


Cheers,,,Steve

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Black
I have IBM softcopy reader installed and always start the shelf 
organizer. I

have all zos1.4 manuals in these shelves, its size about 3G. There is a
shelf named 'z/os 1.4 Messages and codes'.  And whenever I want to know
somthing about a message, I just search this shelf. 
LookAt is just an interface to do exactly what you are doing.  One 
advantage to LookAt is that you can select the z/OS level to search, 
which is important for some of us (like ISVs).


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Re: Z/900 How to Test Daylight Savings Time Mods

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Mark House said:

> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:51:20 -0600
> 
> Daylight Savinggs Time change.  Anyone have any suggestions,on how to test
> the modifications without manually changing the clock on the SE, and
> performing a  Power On Reset.   Are there any products/utilities that
> would make this possible.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks for the
> time.
> 
Create a file with

TZ=GMT0 touch -t 200703111200 foo.testfile

List it with

ls -l foo.testfile

Verify that the time appears to be 07:00 for CDT rather than 06:00
for CST.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:35:53 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> ... sanity would appear to have been
>restored.

Well, at least the toy server is back up.  Not necessarily the same
as sanity though.

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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason
> 
> John
> 
> So we have a fancy new name for antediluvian frequency 
> division multiplexing
> (FDM) - or am I missing something?
> 
> From the provided URL for DWDM: "DWDM works by combining and 
> transmitting multiple signals simultaneously at different 
> wavelengths on the same fiber."
> 
> I never heard of FDM being described as "in effect, one 
> copper wire transformed into multiple virtual copper wires." 
> I guess teleprocessing folk of the past lacked imagination.

Now, if plumbers could adapt that technique, we wouldn't need separate
hot- and cold-water pipes in our houses.  :-)

They already have the "multiplexer"; designing the "demultiplexer" will
be the real bear.

-jc-

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Re: Who intercepted SVC 26?

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Black


Sweet!  I have a couple of systems without any kind of monitor product, 
and this gives a nice display of storage.


Thanks, Bruce.
Ur welcome.  FDRDEBUG has a lot of other function as well.  If the 
customer has the ABR ISPF panels installed, go to the ABR main menu 
(usually A) and enter B to get to the debugging panel.  You can display 
storage and UCBs, locate and display modules, display the Link list, APF 
list, NUCLEUS map, and more.


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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Staller, Allan
> 
> 
> I use search shelf.  Don't need to know which book.
> 
> 
> All of my site searches turnd up the original (non-working) 
> URL's for lookat and booksrv

The following URLs work for me:

z/OS Internet Library: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/

Links to:

z/OS 1.7 Elements and Features:
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/v1r7books.html

Links to:

z/OS [1.7] CD Collection Kit April 2006:
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/zshelves7.html

Appears "normal" to me.

-jc-

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Re: Z/900 How to Test Daylight Savings Time Mods

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan

Anyone have any suggestions,on how to test the modifications without
manually changing the clock on the SE, and 
performing a  Power On Reset. 


I can think of no way to do this unless you have one of the Y2K products
available. i.e. the ones that allow you to
Set an arbitrary date and time in the future.

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Z/900 How to Test Daylight Savings Time Mods

2007-02-02 Thread Mark House
We have applied the DST (TZ _TZ) APAR to z.os 1.4; 1.6 anv 1.7 running in 
three LPAR's on a single z/900.  This z/900 is an application development 
Server.  We have applied the JTUZ utility to USS for JAVA.  We do not have 
a SYSPLEX Timer, and have an internal Coupling Facility.  We would like to 
test the modifications to our system, and our applications prior to the 
Daylight Savinggs Time change.  Anyone have any suggestions,on how to test 
the modifications without manually changing the clock on the SE, and 
performing a  Power On Reset.   Are there any products/utilities that 
would make this possible.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks for the 
time.
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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Greg

Thanks. My "Favorites" saved URL also works which it didn't when I initiated
this thread. In principle I can now declare the matter - issue, problem,
whatever - closed. But we'll see.

In addition, my usual "clicking" through to "Shelf: z/OS V1R8.0
Communications Server" works as well so sanity would appear to have been
restored.

Chris Mason

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> This link works fine for me:
> http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/
>
> Greg

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Per Greg: 
>This link works fine for me: 
> http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/

It does for me now also. They must have fixed whatever issue they had,
but not in time for me to get the information on a message that I was
researching earlier today for a customer.

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Re: Time Zone query for remote users API in LE or z/OS for PL/I

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Denis Gäbler said:

> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 04:05:10 -0500
> 
>  in e.g. Linux there is a way to calculate the timezone for a remote user ba
> sed on definitions such as "Europe/Berlin", "North Amerika/Atlanta" and so on.
> This is also possible with Java on z/OS. We would like to eliminate the 
> maintenance of our current DB2 table, which we query with e.g. "Tokyo" and 
> the result of the query tells us the offset.
>  Is there any other API than Java that supports that mechanism on z/OS? We 
> need this service in our IMS regions and it would be memory eater to enable 
> all regions for Java processing just for the sake of running a single 
> statement.
> 
As you have observed, most UNIX systems, other than the atavistic z/OS
Unix System Services, employ the zoneinfo database, described in

   Linkname: Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data
URL: http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm

This database is distributed with the z/OS DCE product; you may
find it in:

/usr/lpp/dce/etc/zoneinfo

AFAIK, only DCE uses this, and Java uses whatever it uses.  Ignoring
zoneinfo is a more serious problem with the changes in the Daylight
Saving Time schedule legislated in the U.S.: once the LE APAR 
(PK24076 ?) is applied, time zone offsets for some dates on Fall,
2006 will be wrong; without the APAR time zone offsets for some
dates in Spring, 2007 will be wrong.  Once we have the APAR applied
I'll start a PMR on the Fall, 2007, problem, and attempt this into
a Requirement for zoneinfo in z/OS Unix System Services.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
We should all thank IBMTheir web services reliability numbers
provide an excellent example of why businesses shouldn't outsource. 


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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Greg Shirey
This link works fine for me: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/

Greg


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Previously bookmarked and functioning URLS no longer work. In
particular:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/s390/os390/bkserv/lookat/  and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/   and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/   and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/

among many others. 

 

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
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> Subject: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more
> 
> Arrrggg...
> 
> Those marketing and web morons just changed the mainframe related URLs
> once more breaking all links. 
> 
> IBM has abandoned the "eServer" buzz word and replaced it with 
> "Systems" and of course URLs have to reflect this. 
> 
> This seems to be the new home
>   http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/ 
> 
> But if you follow the lefthand side link to "Operating Systems" and
> think you can the get to z/OS, well, well it's broken too.
> 
> Peter Hunkeler

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan
 
Previously bookmarked and functioning URLS no longer work. In
particular:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/s390/os390/bkserv/lookat/  and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/   and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/   and

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/

among many others. To make matters worse, site searches for these items
invariably turn up links to the original  URL's that no longer work.

Please provide the new URL's for the sites indicated above

This is not the level of service and support to which I have been
accustomed for many years. If there were an alternative, I would be
looking elsewhere for support and service.


IBM's response:

Thank you for contacting IBM.

   We are in receipt of your e-mail regarding the errors
   and difficulties you are experiencing on our Web site.
   Please be advised that we have informed the support
   team and they are currently working on this issue.

   We apologize for any inconvenience you may have
   experienced.

   Thank you for visiting our site and contacting IBM.

Pretty pathetic response. How aobut fall back to the old until we can
get this resolved!!

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
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I'm told that site has been there for awhile already, and that the older
z/OS pages have not changed their URLs yet, and so should work.  So
whatever the problem is, we do not think it is related to any changes
like that.  Possibly just a problem with a file system on some server;
we've asked support to look into it.


Would anyone know if this is being hosted on a z/box or some other? Has
anyone thought to compare these outages to the level that we experienced
when it was based on VM?

And from Mr. Acker's days, what about 6-sigma?

Later,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan

Would you be willing to share your NJE/IP implementation information
with the list? 
 

1) the hipersockets network must be defined in HCD. This is left as an
exercise for the consumer
2) This code is provided by JES2 APAR 012364 (z/OS 1.7) OA17300 is also
recommended.
3) All involved systems must be at z/OS 1.7 with the above apars (or
higher).
4) One gotcha (OA19215) has come up. The userid used for the server
address space must be authorized 
For omvs with home('/') and uid(0)
5) changed items for this implementation have a series of '*' at the far
right


//*
//*
//*   Excerpt from JESPARMS
//*
//*
LINE(1-6)  UNIT=SNA
LINE(7-8)  UNIT=TCP
* 
LINE(9-10) UNIT=SNA
/*---*/
/*  HIPERSOCKET DEFINITIONS  */
/*---*/
/*---*/
/*  ONLY REMOTE SOCKET   */
/*  DEFINITIONS ARE NEEDED   */
/*---*/
NETSRV(1)SOCKET=DMS2,START=YES
*  
SOCKET(IRA)  NODE=3,IPADDR=192.0.1.65,NETSRV=1
*   
//* 
//* 
//* 
//* 
//*   Excerpt from TCPMULT  
//* 
//* 
DEVICE IUTIQDFF  MPCIPA
***  
LINK   HIPERFF   IPAQIDIO IUTIQDFF
***  
  . 
  . 
  . 
HOME
 192.168.81.41  ETHERFB00   
 192.0.1.64 HIPERFF
**   
 192.168.81.80  ETHERFD00   
 .  
 .   
 .  
START IUTIQDFF
***

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>I use search shelf.  Don't need to know which book. 

I'm still using the Library Reader which does not support
searching in all bookshelves but only within one at a time.
So I still need to decide in which bookshelf to search.

Maybe the JAVA replacement can do this (but I would not migrate
even if it does).

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Walter Farrell

On 2/2/2007 5:39 AM, Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3 wrote:

Arrrggg...

Those marketing and web morons just changed the mainframe related URLs
once more breaking all links. 

IBM has abandoned the "eServer" buzz word and replaced it with 
"Systems" and of course URLs have to reflect this. 


This seems to be the new home
	http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/ 


But if you follow the lefthand side link to "Operating Systems" and
think you can the get to z/OS, well, well it's broken too.


I'm told that site has been there for awhile already, and that the older
z/OS pages have not changed their URLs yet, and so should work.  So
whatever the problem is, we do not think it is related to any changes
like that.  Possibly just a problem with a file system on some server;
we've asked support to look into it.

Walt Farrell, CISSP
z/OS Security Design, IBM

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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
John

So we have a fancy new name for antediluvian frequency division multiplexing
(FDM) - or am I missing something?

>From the provided URL for DWDM: "DWDM works by combining and transmitting
multiple signals simultaneously at different wavelengths on the same fiber."

I never heard of FDM being described as "in effect, one copper wire
transformed into multiple virtual copper wires." I guess teleprocessing folk
of the past lacked imagination.

Chris Mason

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> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> >
> > ---
> > The short answer is Yes, you can do it. FICON is so fast that
> > you should not have trouble with 12 drives--assuming that
> > distance is not a problem. I don't know what the native
> > limitations are, but we use DWDM to 120 KM.
> >
> > Actually in the 'olden days' of ESCON, channel extender
> > products provided a similar capability, but the pathing was
> > not known to MVS.
> > FICON lets it all hang out.
> > 
> > Pardon me; my education is lacking.
> >
> > DWDM ?? "Dark fiber" ??
>
> DWDM:  Short for Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing, an optical
> technology used to increase bandwidth over existing fiber optic
> backbones.
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DWDM.html
>
> Dark fiber refers to unused fiber-optic cable. Often times companies lay
> more lines than what's needed in order to curb costs of having to do it
> again and again. The dark strands can be leased to individuals or other
> companies who want to establish optical connections among their own
> locations.
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/d/dark_fiber.html
>
> -jc-

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:34:22 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:
>
>Here's the usual laughable reply:
>
< snip! >
>
>Nidhi K Swarup
>Electronic Response Center
>

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan
 


I use search shelf.  Don't need to know which book.


All of my site searches turnd up the original (non-working) URL's
for lookat and booksrv

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:58:38 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:

>
>Well, I love the bookmanager shelves, too, and am using them
>all the time before going to the web. But LookAt has the big
>advantage that you don't need to find out which message book
>in which bookshelve holds the message you want to look up. You
>simply paste the message id and there you go.
>

I use search shelf.  Don't need to know which book.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>Assuming that the LOOKAT server is up...which it doesn't 
>appear to be at the moment  

It probably *is* up but nobody knows where

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Carol Srna
Neither is 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/r7pdf/dfsms.html 
.





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Assuming that the LOOKAT server is up...which it doesn't appear to be at
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Re: Doubt about Server Pac and Catalogs

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:52:13 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote:

>Mark, I always renamed my DLIB datasets to a different HLQ, just to keep
>them in a different catalog. That way, I could maintain multiple
>targets, each with its own master catalog, and not have to worry about
>whether the DLIBs were catalog-accessable from that image.
>

So you had DLIB1.AMODGEN, DLIB2.AMODGEN, etc.?  I'd rather catalog
SYS1.AMODGEN on &SYSRn (whatever the DLIB volume is that corresponds
to that target).  And of course, for SMP/E, the DDDEFs all point to
the volume serial.

Another master catalog for each target zone?  I see more problems
than benefits.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Assuming that the LOOKAT server is up...which it doesn't appear to be at
the moment  


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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of WalterR
> 
> [ snip ]
> >
> With QW, after entering "QW" on the ISPF command line you simply 
> position the cursor on/over the message code (for which you can use 
> the mouse) and .

If your emulator is "properly" configured, you need only double-click on
the message ID and QW retrieves the explanation.  "Properly" in context
means that double-click sends the 3270  AID (Bluezone does that
by default).

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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Laine, Rogers
Allen,

Would you be willing to share your NJE/IP implementation information
with the list? 

TIA,

Rogers

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It would help knowing what your current environment.  You might get
samples that aren't appropriate - that are more misleading than
helpfull.


Multiple stand-alone LPARS on a single CEC (test(z/OS 1.7),
production(z/OS 1.4), sandbox(z/OS 1.7)). No external communication
outside of the glass house via VTAM. (Outside comm is via TCPIP).

As I have stated previously, we have just implemented NJE over IP, using
HIPERSOCKETS (to route jobs between
LPARs) for the test and sandbox lpars. I know we can't complete this
until the prod LPAR is z/OS 1.7 (expected 04/07).

NJE/IP using HIPERSOCKETS will eliminate about 80 percent of the
traffic. The remainder is a small amount of TSO/VTAM (mostly for
sysprogs). From some more reading of the FM's, is seems that a
modification of the TRL will suffice.

My plan is to replace the TRL pointing to the 2216 with one pointing to
the HIPERSOCKET network. Is this feasable?
Any gothca's?

Any help is appreciated...





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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of WalterR
> 
> [ snip ]
> >
> With QW, after entering "QW" on the ISPF command line you 
> simply position the cursor on/over the message code (for 
> which you can use the mouse) and . 

If your emulator is "properly" configured, you need only double-click on
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means that double-click sends the 3270  AID (Bluezone does that
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Re: Cascading FICON director with DASD and TAPE devices

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:42:04 +0800, Ron Hawkins wrote:

>Bruce,
>
>My recollection is that tape drives would use DC Interlock mode and when 
all
>you had was a primary and secondary B&T channel this would seriously impact
>the DASD. I think the 3480 was the last drive that wasn't pure Data
>streaming.
>

I'll defer to your experience with mixing tape and dasd, but I'm
pretty sure that data streamiong has nothing to do with it.  IIRC,
data streaming applies only to data transfer operations.  One of
the notorious problems with old tape drives was with rewind and
forward space file, both of which remained connected until the
operation was completed.

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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> 
> ---
> The short answer is Yes, you can do it. FICON is so fast that 
> you should not have trouble with 12 drives--assuming that 
> distance is not a problem. I don't know what the native 
> limitations are, but we use DWDM to 120 KM.
> 
> Actually in the 'olden days' of ESCON, channel extender 
> products provided a similar capability, but the pathing was 
> not known to MVS. 
> FICON lets it all hang out.
> 
> Pardon me; my education is lacking.
> 
> DWDM ?? "Dark fiber" ??

DWDM:  Short for Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing, an optical
technology used to increase bandwidth over existing fiber optic
backbones. 

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DWDM.html

Dark fiber refers to unused fiber-optic cable. Often times companies lay
more lines than what's needed in order to curb costs of having to do it
again and again. The dark strands can be leased to individuals or other
companies who want to establish optical connections among their own
locations.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/d/dark_fiber.html

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Re: Who intercepted SVC 26?

2007-02-02 Thread Steven Conway
Bruce Black posted:
>> If you go to ISPF 6 and enter "FDRDEBUG SYS" you will get a display


Sweet!  I have a couple of systems without any kind of monitor product, 
and this gives a nice display of storage.

Thanks, Bruce.

Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
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Re: Vtam migration

2007-02-02 Thread Staller, Allan
 

It would help knowing what your current environment.  You might get
samples that aren't appropriate - that are more misleading than
helpfull.


Multiple stand-alone LPARS on a single CEC (test(z/OS 1.7),
production(z/OS 1.4), sandbox(z/OS 1.7)). No external communication
outside of the glass house via VTAM. (Outside comm is via TCPIP).

As I have stated previously, we have just implemented NJE over IP, using
HIPERSOCKETS (to route jobs between
LPARs) for the test and sandbox lpars. I know we can't complete this
until the prod LPAR is z/OS 1.7 (expected 04/07).

NJE/IP using HIPERSOCKETS will eliminate about 80 percent of the
traffic. The remainder is a small amount of TSO/VTAM (mostly for
sysprogs). From some more reading of the FM's, is seems that a
modification of the TRL will suffice.

My plan is to replace the TRL pointing to the 2216 with one pointing to
the HIPERSOCKET network. Is this feasable?
Any gothca's?

Any help is appreciated...

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>With QW, after entering "QW" on the ISPF command line you 

Assuming you've got QW. If not LookAt is next choice 


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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Justice
That explains why www.s390.ibm.com doesn't work anymore, they must be 
taking their clues from the microsoft people. 

Do they not test ALL of the links when they change these things? Geesh. 

If this was broken "500" levels in, I might understand, but the second link 
in is broken. 

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[SPAM] Re: DSCBS - THANK YOU

2007-02-02 Thread John Dawes
Thanks to all who answered my question and offered solutions.  Thanks to Bruce 
as well for the FDR solution.

Jack Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You can probablu use pdf3.4 with the 'V' 
option

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If you have QuickRef then the SPACE function provides it. If you have
access to ISMF, it will also tell you. And then there is the old fashion
IEHLIST. It is not as friendly but does give the info.

Plus I am sure there are space mapping utilities on the CBT Tape that will
also give this information.

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Is there a way of finding the total amount of DSCBS that is available 
and
being used on a given disk? I used to use DISKMAP, but for some reason 
this
installation does not have it. I would appreciate any suggestion.
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Lizette Koehler

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Re: RUMBA (Was: LookAt)

2007-02-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Lately, I've been using Windows Rumba (from Wall 
Data) as the 3270 emulator, which may play a role.

I've been dealing with some usability issues with RUMBA, and the company I've 
been working with is NetManage.

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread WalterR

Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:

I remember I tried LookAt in the past but it's not so 
impressive to me. Anyway, your professionals use them so 
there must be some reasons... 
   



Well, I love the bookmanager shelves, too, and am using them
all the time before going to the web. But LookAt has the big
advantage that you don't need to find out which message book
in which bookshelve holds the message you want to look up. You
simply paste the message id and there you go.

Peter Hunkeler
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With QW, after entering "QW" on the ISPF command line you simply 
position the cursor on/over the message code (for which you can use the 
mouse) and .  The indicated message code is automatically pasted 
into the search key.  Lately, I've been using Windows Rumba (from Wall 
Data) as the 3270 emulator, which may play a role.


Walter Rue

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>I remember I tried LookAt in the past but it's not so 
>impressive to me. Anyway, your professionals use them so 
>there must be some reasons... 

Well, I love the bookmanager shelves, too, and am using them
all the time before going to the web. But LookAt has the big
advantage that you don't need to find out which message book
in which bookshelve holds the message you want to look up. You
simply paste the message id and there you go.

Peter Hunkeler
CREDIT SUISSE

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Shane and Peter

I think this may be the same issue - not to say problem - as revealed in my
Lookup thread.

Incidentally you can get further - not a lot - by selecting z/OS.e -
assuming you are trying to battle through to the online manuals.

Here's the usual laughable reply:



Dear Ms[1]. Mason,

   Thank you for contacting IBM.

   We are in receipt of your e-mail regarding the errors and
difficulties
   you are experiencing on our Web site.  Please be advised that we
   have informed the webmaster and they are currently working on this
   issue.

   We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.

   Thank you for visiting our site and contacting IBM.

Nidhi K Swarup
Electronic Response Center



At fuming times like this one's politically correct defences are somewhat
lowered, so I'm probably being some sort of ---ist when I say that the
signature gave me an Asimov moment.

Probably IBM decided that Friday was a good day to introduce something which
would be bound to get the IBMMAIN crowd buzzing with vituperation.

Chris Mason

[1] Probably in irritation at having to fill in so much rubbish before
getting my comment off, I selected the wrong "title".

- Original Message - 
From: "Shane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more


> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 11:39 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
> > Arrrggg...
> >
> > Those marketing and web morons just changed the mainframe related URLs
> > once more breaking all links.
>
> C'mon Peter, no need to be reticent - say what you really mean ...  ;-)
>
> Would be funny if it wasn't so bloody laughable.
> At least ServiceLink seems to still be there - for now.
> Pity about the public face of zSeries.
>
> Shane ...

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Johnny Luo

Yes, it's down. I also tried with that.

But I have a question: why these tools?

I have IBM softcopy reader installed and always start the shelf organizer. I
have all zos1.4 manuals in these shelves, its size about 3G. There is a
shelf named 'z/os 1.4 Messages and codes'.  And whenever I want to know
somthing about a message, I just search this shelf.

I remember I tried LookAt in the past but it's not so impressive to me.
Anyway, your professionals use them so there must be some reasons...




On 2/2/07, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Shane

Thanks for the confirmation.

But then I did something stupid and also tried going straight to the
manual.
Generalising from the particular, I'm guessing that the whole IBM
publications system is down.

Fortunately the newspaper I am now going to have to go and read has cost
part of a tree in its fabrication.

Chris Mason

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Subject: Re: LookAt


> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 10:50 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:
>
> > Am I somehow alone or is LookAt down for everybody?
>
> I've always been a bit "ho-hum" re LookAt. Probably spoilt by QuickRef.
> I go straight to the the manual(s) rather than LookAt.
>
> And yes, it appears to be down.
>
> Shane ...

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Re: IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 11:39 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
> Arrrggg...
> 
> Those marketing and web morons just changed the mainframe related URLs
> once more breaking all links. 

C'mon Peter, no need to be reticent - say what you really mean ...  ;-)

Would be funny if it wasn't so bloody laughable.
At least ServiceLink seems to still be there - for now.
Pity about the public face of zSeries.

Shane ...

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IBM changed its mainframe URLs once more

2007-02-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Arrrggg...

Those marketing and web morons just changed the mainframe related URLs
once more breaking all links. 

IBM has abandoned the "eServer" buzz word and replaced it with 
"Systems" and of course URLs have to reflect this. 

This seems to be the new home
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/ 

But if you follow the lefthand side link to "Operating Systems" and
think you can the get to z/OS, well, well it's broken too.


Peter Hunkeler
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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Shane

Thanks for the confirmation.

But then I did something stupid and also tried going straight to the manual.
Generalising from the particular, I'm guessing that the whole IBM
publications system is down.

Fortunately the newspaper I am now going to have to go and read has cost
part of a tree in its fabrication.

Chris Mason

- Original Message - 
From: "Shane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: 
Sent: Friday, 02 February, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: LookAt


> On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 10:50 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:
>
> > Am I somehow alone or is LookAt down for everybody?
>
> I've always been a bit "ho-hum" re LookAt. Probably spoilt by QuickRef.
> I go straight to the the manual(s) rather than LookAt.
>
> And yes, it appears to be down.
>
> Shane ...

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Re: LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 10:50 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:

> Am I somehow alone or is LookAt down for everybody?

I've always been a bit "ho-hum" re LookAt. Probably spoilt by QuickRef.
I go straight to the the manual(s) rather than LookAt.

And yes, it appears to be down.

Shane ...

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LookAt

2007-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Am I somehow alone or is LookAt down for everybody?

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/

"Our apologies... The page you requested cannot be displayed"

Yes I've "done" the "Get assistance" FWIW.

Chris Mason

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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Ron Hawkins
Skip,

 

Aren't the closing lines after Eclipse something like this?

 

"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

 

Ron

 

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> Subject: Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

> 

> Um, I think I missed the point of the question with my earlier post.

> Thanks to Ron and Tom for providing the actual answer.

> 

> An important characteristic of DWDM is that it's 'content unaware'. It

> doesn't know the nature of the data being transmitted any more than the

> pipes in your house know about water quality. Traditional channel

> extenders are all about mainframe I/O--up to and including simulation of

> ESCON switches.

> 

> P.S. Although my cousin refuses to believe that she was hoodwinked by Pink

> Floyd, the moon has no dark side. I might as well try to convince her that

> people are descended from monkeys. Science schmience.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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> 02/01/2007 07:55 PM

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> 

> Dark Fibre - Fibre between two sites that is not shared

> 

> DWDM=Dense Wave Division Multiplexor

> WDM turns a dark fibre into many dark fibres by using slightly different

> wavelengths for each fibre connected. "Think of the cover of Dark Side of

> the Moon".

> 

> 

> 

> > -Original Message-

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> > Behalf Of Rick Fochtman

> > Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:21 AM

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> > Subject: Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

> >

> > ---

> > The short answer is Yes, you can do it. FICON is so fast that you should

> > not have trouble with 12 drives--assuming that distance is not a

> > problem. I don't know what the native limitations are, but we use DWDM

> > to 120 KM.

> >

> > Actually in the 'olden days' of ESCON, channel extender products

> > provided a similar capability, but the pathing was not known to MVS.

> > FICON lets it all hang out.

> > 

> > Pardon me; my education is lacking.

> >

> > DWDM ?? "Dark fiber" ??

> >

> 

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Time Zone query for remote users API in LE or z/OS for PL/I programs?

2007-02-02 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Hi,
 
 in e.g. Linux there is a way to calculate the timezone for a remote user based 
on definitions such as "Europe/Berlin", "North Amerika/Atlanta" and so on.
 This is also possible with Java on z/OS. We would like to eliminate the 
maintenance of our current DB2 table, which we query with e.g. "Tokyo" and the 
result of the query tells us the offset.
 Is there any other API than Java that supports that mechanism on z/OS? We need 
this service in our IMS regions and it would be memory eater to enable all 
regions for Java processing just for the sake of running a single statement.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Denis Gäbler.
  

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Re: Cascaded FICON and HCD

2007-02-02 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 20:28 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote:

> P.S. Although my cousin refuses to believe that she was hoodwinked by Pink 
> Floyd, the moon has no dark side. I might as well try to convince her that 
> people are descended from monkeys. Science schmience. 

M - I don't have a problem with "unseen" equating to "dark
side" (think "darkest Africa").
But I wouldn't want the cover designer in charge of managing data
propagation via light through glass.
Their ideas on refraction are "interesting"  - mux-demux if you look at
both sides of the CD version. Whoa !!! - imagine what that'd do to your
data in transit.

Shane ...
(awesome album - and album cover ...)

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