Re: CPU capping
From: R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > HARD capping is NOT disruptive. It does require neither LPAR deactivate, nor > IPL. > AFAIK soft capping *does* prevent CPC to exceed defined capacity. It allows > for *temporary* peaks, > but you pay for 4-hr rolling average. Radoslaw, you are right in both cases. I'll try the HARD capping solution. Thanks Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > > >Instead, the application crashes reported as flaws are > actually by design. > > There's no such thing as bad publicity, as long as you spell > my name correctly! "Good press, bad press; it doesn't matter, as long as you get press." (Political candidates' mantra) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM to the PCM market
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 17:31 -0400, Craddock, Chris wrote: > Back in the day you would see pretty bad cpu > (queuing) contention at 70-odd percent in UNIX systems that did lots of > multitasking because there was no moral equivalent of SRM or WLM making > effective choices about who was more deserving. UNIX had and still has a > priority scheme but frankly its pretty lame. I generally hate to argue with CC in public - much better done in person where we can agree on the alcohol of choice before beginning. With regard to Linux, I'm sure Ingo Molnar would take umbrage at the above - significant advances have been made. As usual, just catching up with our collective computing environment of choice, but getting there none-the-less. There is major (pre- ???) alpha code development of a workload management paradigm under way - I happen to think it has lost it's way a bit, but let's see what develops. But it'll be a while until it makes it to the kernel mainline methinks. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
Instead, the application crashes reported as flaws are actually by design. I just installed Microsofts new security system for home owners. If anyone tries to break in, the house bursts into flames. :-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm _ Win a webcam! Nominate your friends Windows Live Space in the Windows Live Spaces Sweetest Space Contest and you both could win! http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/sweetestspace/default.aspx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Sky is indeed Falling
So that's it, IBM has finally decided to have roasted Golden Goose for dinner ! We all liked the eggs but it's not our goose after all. Unless the courts decide otherwise, IBM might well enjoy it roasted golden goose. Interesting times for us dinos Mohammad On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:57:28 +0100, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED] RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: >Forget PSI. Forget Fundamental. And forget PWD. > >It's about zSeries End of Life, and how to control the collapse. > >http://www.isham-research.co.uk/ibm_vs_psi.html > >-- > Phil Payne > http://www.isham-research.co.uk > +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HLASM EXIT S50D at z/OS 1.7
Hi I have an application, using the HLASM EXIT's. It is working in z/OS 1.5, but in 1.7 I got an S50D-20 abend. (If I call the application in 1.7 with the z/OS 1.5 asm.sasmmod1 it is also o.k.) -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: non-IBM documentation (Friday, but on-topic)
I resisted PDF's in bookmanager for a long time because of the inability to search "shelves", saw this the other day... You can now search PDF "Extended" bookshelves much like you can with bookmanager shelves. ---Snippet from the IBM website For the PDF indexing prototype, the PDF files for z/OS V1R7 and later element and feature libraries include indexes, and shelves of z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs include library-wide indexes. This new function gives z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs a high-function linguistic BookManager-like search, as well as the print facility that PDFs are known for. You can search the content of individual z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs and receive weighted (not only sequential) search results. Using the shelf index, you can search across the content of indexed PDFs in a z/OS V1R7 or later extended shelf and perform a library-wide search. The new searchable PDFs will help z/OS customers wade through our large library and access information more quickly. In the future, we plan to index more and more IBM PDFs, and other companies can also provide indexed PDFs. An indexing utility for PDFs and shelves of PDFs, as well as search support for these shelves is provided in IBM Library Server, which ships for free as part of z/OS V1R7 and later. Beginning in September 2006, searching of indexed PDF shelves is integrated into IBM Softcopy Reader 3.6 for Windows and Linux (downloadable from the BookManager Web site). Selecting PDF shelf search hits from Library Server or IBM Softcopy Reader for Windows launches the IBM Advanced Linguistic Search Plug-in for Adobe to display search results within individual indexed PDFs. Details here: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/softcopy/hilite.html#softi npdfs IBM softcopy reader 3.6 is required - http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?doc=4001220&org=SW&rs=4 You must also install the "IBM Advanced Linguistic Search Plug-in for Adobe v1.3 on Windows" http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?doc=4010509&org=SW&rs=4 Eric Spencer Sr. Software Developer Neon Enterprise Software Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LE Options
Yes, that option does work. However I was looking for a possible Utility common to all systems. So I don't have to send out my crude "Hello World" :) I would be nice if IBM has a utility can came as part of LE that would search your systems and dump all values - as a diagnostic aid. Looks like that's not there. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Torres Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LE Options You can execute one of your programs with the PARM option to get the BATCH LE settings. //PRTVOLS EXEC PGM=AA,PARM='/RPTOPTS(ON)' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:38:26 +, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>Instead, the application crashes reported as flaws are >>>actually by design. > >I just installed Microsofts new security system for home owners. If anyone >tries to break in, the house bursts into flames. :-) > Maybe they've been watching too many James Bond movies. Wasn't there one where the car blew up when someone tried to break in? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LE Options
Actually I think CICS has the CLER command to do that and IMS something similar. It just seems that under TSO or BATCH it is lacking. Typically I set up the LE options to always list the options because somebody somewhere could over ride something and not tell me. You know - I did not change anything - comment? Lizette --Yes, that option does work. However I was looking for a possible Utility --common to all systems. So I don't have to send out my crude "Hello --World" :) -- --I would be nice if IBM has a utility can came as part of LE that would --search your systems and dump all values - as a diagnostic aid. Looks --like that's not there. -- --Thanks, --Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Collect DB2 message log SMF
Hi all, We want to collect DB2 LOG from DB2 MSTR ADDRESS SPACE from the prod system.The address space can be shutdown,so we cannot use IBM external writer.I know we can use SDSF batch mode to print Address Space to dataset.I want to know if there are certain SMF record type contain the DB2 message?And how to print it to dataset? Another question is if we can find whole DB2 LOG in SYSLOG or OPERLOG? Thanks for your concern. BR YY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Collect DB2 message log SMF
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yan Ying > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Collect DB2 message log SMF > > > Hi all, > We want to collect DB2 LOG from DB2 MSTR ADDRESS SPACE from > the prod system.The address space can be shutdown,so we cannot use > IBM external writer.I know we can use SDSF batch mode to print > Address Space to dataset.I want to know if there are certain SMF > record type contain the DB2 message?And how to print it to dataset? > Another question is if we can find whole DB2 LOG in SYSLOG or OPERLOG? > Thanks for your concern. > > BR > YY I am not familiar with the "DB2 LOG". Is it a SYSOUT type dataset? I gather so since you say that you can see it with SDSF. You can, usually, direct SYSOUT to the MVS SYSLOG by "cheating" a bit. Suppose you have a JCL statement similar to: //DB2LOG DD SYSOUT=A You can replace that with the following to direct it to the MVS SYSLOG (or OPERLOG, whichever you are using) //DB2LOG DD PATH='/dev/console', // FILEDATA=TEXT, // RECFM=???,LRECL=???, // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY) Note you must replace the question marks with the appropriate values for your application. Now, this will prefix all the records being written to DB2LOG with a message prefix of BPXF024I when they are actually written to SYSLOG. If you have an automated operations package, you can suppress this message from going to the actual OS operator consoles, while still allowing it to go to the SYSLOG/OPERLOG. Note that the messages will be interspersed with all the other messages on the SYSLOG, so finding them may be "fun". I am not aware of any easy way to write SYSOUT data to SMF. As a system programmer, I would resist this because our SMF data is huge anyway. I do know that DB2 can write some type of records to SMF, but I don't know what is contained it them or if they would help you. Have you asked on the DB2 list? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the IDUG DB2-L list. To unsubscribe, go to the archives and home page at http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html. From that page select "Join or Leave the list". The IDUG DB2-L FAQ is at http://www.idugdb2-l.org. The IDUG List Admins can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find out the latest on IDUG conferences at http://conferences.idug.org/index.cfm -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: non-IBM documentation (Friday, but on-topic)
In a recent note, Eric Spencer said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:27:29 -0500 > > I resisted PDF's in bookmanager for a long time because of the inability > to search "shelves", saw this the other day... > > You can now search PDF "Extended" bookshelves much like you can with > bookmanager shelves. > Have they further "extended" the design so that when I do a search, and get hits in a couple dozen documents, and want to browse the selected topics, it will download only the extracted topics, not the entire documents with attendant squandering of bandwidth? Gee, that would be almost like the HTML version. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Collect DB2 message log SMF
My question would be what DB2 Log? Are you talking about the DB2 Log from the started Task? Or the actual db2 logging function? If you need the messages from the DB2 Started Task those can be retrieved if your shop does one of the following: Is the STC output going to a sysout archiver? Like DISPATCH or XPTR or other? Or is the output purged? Is the SYSOUT from SYSLOG archived? To a physical data set or some other sysout archiver process? If either of these are true then you can collect the data you are looking for. I am guessing that you are looking for specific DB2 messages for taking actions? If you could explain a little more on what you want from the DB2 log maybe there are some other options? Lizette -Original Message- >From: Yan Ying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 16, 2007 9:57 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Collect DB2 message log SMF > >Hi all, >We want to collect DB2 LOG from DB2 MSTR ADDRESS SPACE from >the prod system.The address space can be shutdown,so we cannot use >IBM external writer.I know we can use SDSF batch mode to print >Address Space to dataset.I want to know if there are certain SMF >record type contain the DB2 message?And how to print it to dataset? >Another question is if we can find whole DB2 LOG in SYSLOG or OPERLOG? >Thanks for your concern. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
On 16 Apr 2007 05:38:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >>>Instead, the application crashes reported as flaws are >>>actually by design. > >I just installed Microsofts new security system for home owners. If anyone >tries to break in, the house bursts into flames. :-) Before all of carry on in our smugness, I have seen a number of applications with intentional abends and created more than one batch process with that. In the ones I did, it was because the problem was beyond the capability of the application to fix without human intervention and an abend was the way to force the data problem to be fixed. There are also a number of unreliable installation grown applications out there. Given that we let things die for out of space conditions, something which would baffle most Microsoft developers, I am not as critical of the approach of not digging the grave deeper when the user has bollixed the programming beyond redemption. Both the assembler and the COBOL compiler have such abends. > >Dave Salt >SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe! >http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Collect DB2 message log SMF
Hi , Sorry not explain out question clearly. Yes,We want to manage the DB2 message from DB2 start task automtically. Wo want to capture all the message to gdg dataset and analysis the log. The problem is the the start task cannot stop.So we must collect the messages online.I don;t know if the whole DB2 LOG can also be gotten from SYSLOG or SMF. Thanks your for your help. BR YY From: Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Collect DB2 message log SMF Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:39:38 -0400 My question would be what DB2 Log? Are you talking about the DB2 Log from the started Task? Or the actual db2 logging function? If you need the messages from the DB2 Started Task those can be retrieved if your shop does one of the following: Is the STC output going to a sysout archiver? Like DISPATCH or XPTR or other? Or is the output purged? Is the SYSOUT from SYSLOG archived? To a physical data set or some other sysout archiver process? If either of these are true then you can collect the data you are looking for. I am guessing that you are looking for specific DB2 messages for taking actions? If you could explain a little more on what you want from the DB2 log maybe there are some other options? Lizette -Original Message- >From: Yan Ying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Apr 16, 2007 9:57 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Collect DB2 message log SMF > >Hi all, >We want to collect DB2 LOG from DB2 MSTR ADDRESS SPACE from >the prod system.The address space can be shutdown,so we cannot use >IBM external writer.I know we can use SDSF batch mode to print >Address Space to dataset.I want to know if there are certain SMF >record type contain the DB2 message?And how to print it to dataset? >Another question is if we can find whole DB2 LOG in SYSLOG or OPERLOG? >Thanks for your concern. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ 免费下载 MSN Explorer: http://explorer.msn.com/lccn -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application > crashes are features, not bugs! > > Before all of carry on in our smugness, I have seen a number of > applications with intentional abends and created more than one batch > process with that. In the ones I did, it was because the problem was > beyond the capability of the application to fix without human > intervention and an abend was the way to force the data problem to be > fixed. There are also a number of unreliable installation grown > applications out there. Given that we let things die for out of space > conditions, something which would baffle most Microsoft developers, I > am not as critical of the approach of not digging the grave deeper > when the user has bollixed the programming beyond redemption. Both > the assembler and the COBOL compiler have such abends. True. As I previously confessed to, I have a subroutine which abends with an S0C3 due to lack of a way to tell the caller: "You passed me garbage!". I know that a number of our applications have specific abends. But they at least put out diagnostic messages to help find the problem. And MS can get "out of space" type problems. They just don't have an architected abend for it. So they rely on the application to trap and report on the problem intelligently. VSAM on z/OS is similar. I know of one application which got into a loop because it just kept trying to add records after VSAM indicated "out of space". The application didn't look at the return code and just wasted hours of run time. I prefer an ABEND in this case. But, in the given case, I would have thought a dialog box with a message about a corrupted input file, along with the name of the file, would be significantly better than just crashing. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:58:48 -0500 > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris > > > Before all of carry on in our smugness, I have seen a number of > > applications with intentional abends and created more than one batch > > process with that. > > But, in the given case, I would have thought a dialog box with a message > about a corrupted input file, along with the name of the file, would be > significantly better than just crashing. > On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no way to report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: non-IBM documentation (Friday, but on-topic)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Spencer Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: non-IBM documentation (Friday, but on-topic) I resisted PDF's in bookmanager for a long time because of the inability to search "shelves", saw this the other day... You can now search PDF "Extended" bookshelves much like you can with bookmanager shelves. ---Snippet from the IBM website For the PDF indexing prototype, the PDF files for z/OS V1R7 and later element and feature libraries include indexes, and shelves of z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs include library-wide indexes. This new function gives z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs a high-function linguistic BookManager-like search, as well as the print facility that PDFs are known for. You can search the content of individual z/OS V1R7 and later PDFs and receive weighted (not only sequential) search results. Using the shelf index, you can search across the content of indexed PDFs in a z/OS V1R7 or later extended shelf and perform a library-wide search. The new searchable PDFs will help z/OS customers wade through our large library and access information more quickly. In the future, we plan to index more and more IBM PDFs, and other companies can also provide indexed PDFs. Interesting. Fujitsu had something similar to this for their COBOL (V3) product back about 1999. And it was using PDF, with indexing. Adobe had apparently come out with this, where you can search all the PDFs in a subdirectory a few years ago (can't remember the release level or year). These are functions/features that I can't live without now, and thought were fantastic when I found I could make it work, because I despise, eschew, hate, abhor, Bookmangler, Bookmonster, Bookthrasher (all of these are what a certain product is known as by certain persons in IBM for what it did to things such as PoO's ART & DAT charts, for starters). I'm not an IBM Director, my attention span is longer than a "sound bite". Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed here are entirely those of the poster and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Sterling Commerce. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > In a recent note, McKown, John said: > > > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:58:48 -0500 > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris > > > > > Before all of carry on in our smugness, I have seen a number of > > > applications with intentional abends and created more than one batch > > > process with that. > > > > But, in the given case, I would have thought a dialog box with a > > message about a corrupted input file, along with the name of the file, > > would be significantly better than just crashing. > > > On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 > decades) no way to report an error to the caller other than > "just crashing". ... usually with a return code and reason code which may immediately be researched. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
>On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no way to >report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". And, what would an application after a failed open, that didn't abend? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > > >On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 > decades) no way to report an error to the caller other than > "just crashing". > > And, what would an application after a failed open, that didn't abend? Why, issue messages, of course: "OPEN failed for [, RC=xx, RSN=yy]." "0 records processed." -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:33 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes > > > >On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 > decades) no way to report an error to the caller other than > "just crashing". > > And, what would an application after a failed open, that didn't abend? > Well, around here it would do one of two things: 1) issue a DISPLAY UPON CONSOLE 2) then abend itself or 1) Ignore the return code 2) abend on the next I/O statement or 2) go into an infinite loops trying to do I/O while getting (and ignoring) the return code that says that the I/O failed or 2) get a return code on the next I/O statement and issue a DISPLAY UPON CONSOLE followed by an abend. The only real option for batch that I can think of is to ABEND or return with a bad return code. Well, I guess it could "lie" by just ending with an RC=0 indicating that "all is well!" until some user noticed that a report was missing or some such thing. Also, depending on the nature of the application, an nice ESTAEX type exit would be appropriate. I.e. something interactive like TSO. Wouldn't it be nice if your TSO session ended if some program abended that you were trying to run. Maybe like a S913 abend when somebody tries to edit a dataset that they cannot READ. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
Cross posted to the DB2 listserv. Is there a way to accomplish the above. We need to be able to do a SELECT statement from CICS and batch to an Oracle database which resides on a Unix box. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
> >"OPEN failed for [, RC=xx, RSN=yy]." >"0 records processed." Imagine standing at an auto teller / Auto Bank, and you receive the message... 0 records processed, after it just took a deposit of $1000,00. and swallow your card at the same time... Not a happy customer... Herbie * This email and any attachments are confidential and intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).If you receive this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized dissemination, retransmission, or copying of this email and any attachments is prohibited. Euroconex does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence, which may arise from the use of email. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. This message has been scanned for known computer viruses. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
Hi Jim, the easiest way is probably to write a Java Stored Procedure for DB2 on z/OS that uses JDBC to access the Oracle DB. Then its fairly easy to call that stored proc from CICS and batch. Another solution could be to write a Java Class that does the JDBC to Oracle, wrap that class with Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3R3 or higher and call that COBOL module from CICS or Batch (any language, just a CALL MODULE, but requires special CEEUOPTs e.g. XPLINK(ON) and POSIX(ON)). Just my 2 cent. Denis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 5:45 PM Subject: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch Cross posted to the DB2 listserv. Is there a way to accomplish the above. We need to be able to do a SELECT statement from CICS and batch to an Oracle database which resides on a Unix box. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not bugs!
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:32:42 + > > >On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no way to > >report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". > > And, what would an application after a failed open, that didn't abend? > Why, whatever its designer chooses, of course. Perhaps continue processing, omitting the failed file. As a concrete example, imagine a slightly smarter SuperC Search-For, which could process not just a single input data set, but several input data sets (perhaps selected by wildcard; a capability for which I have long yearned). If one OPEN fails for one data set it's reasonable to issue an error message and continue processing the remainder of the input rather than abending. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie > > > > >"OPEN failed for [, RC=xx, RSN=yy]." > >"0 records processed." > > Imagine standing at an auto teller / Auto Bank, and you > receive the message... 0 records processed, after it just > took a deposit of $1000,00. and swallow your card at the same > time... Not a happy customer... Had it happen more than once, except no messages The ATM just "sat there" and kept my card. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 09:22 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no > way to report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". Oh, I don't know. Think of ABEND/ESTAE as a sort of crippled throw/catch (crippled in the sense that "catch" pretty much has to be coded in asm). -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
On 4/16/07, Denis Gäbler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jim, the easiest way is probably to write a Java Stored Procedure for DB2 on z/OS that uses JDBC to access the Oracle DB. Then its fairly easy to call that stored proc from CICS and batch. Another solution could be to write a Java Class that does the JDBC to Oracle, wrap that class with Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3R3 or higher and call that COBOL module from CICS or Batch (any language, just a CALL MODULE, but requires special CEEUOPTs e.g. XPLINK(ON) and POSIX(ON)). Just my 2 cent. Denis. Denis, thanks for your suggestions. As it happens we have recently been playing with calling Java classes from COBOL and have managed to get that to work. One question, why do you say Enterprise COBOL 3.3 or higher. We have 3.1 installed here and that seemed to work fine. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Sky is indeed Falling
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:57:28 +0100, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED] RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: >Forget PSI. Forget Fundamental. And forget PWD. > >It's about zSeries End of Life, and how to control the collapse. > Remember back when we used to cheer IBM on in their suit with SCO? SCO - Those rotten guys who were trying to use the patent system to blackmail companies and consumers and restrict progress in for the sake of narrow self-interest! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Sky is indeed Falling
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warner Mach > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: The Sky is indeed Falling > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:57:28 +0100, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: > > >Forget PSI. Forget Fundamental. And forget PWD. > > > >It's about zSeries End of Life, and how to control the collapse. > > > Remember back when we used to cheer IBM on in their suit with SCO? > SCO - Those rotten guys who were trying to use the patent system to > blackmail companies and consumers and restrict progress in for the > sake of narrow self-interest! Actually, I don't remember them asserting patents in the suit. I remember "copyrights", uh no, "contracts", uh no, "methods and concepts", uh no, "...". SCO has never delivered a clear indication of what, exactly, IBM was supposed to have done to them. IBM has been very clear what they think PSI has done in this case. I don't agree with their stand, but they are clear. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LE Options
There are 2 sets of Le options - one for CICS and one for batch. CLER will only show the CICS options. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LE Options Actually I think CICS has the CLER command to do that and IMS something similar. It just seems that under TSO or BATCH it is lacking. Typically I set up the LE options to always list the options because somebody somewhere could over ride something and not tell me. You know - I did not change anything - comment? Lizette --Yes, that option does work. However I was looking for a possible Utility --common to all systems. So I don't have to send out my crude "Hello --World" :) -- --I would be nice if IBM has a utility can came as part of LE that would --search your systems and dump all values - as a diagnostic aid. Looks --like that's not there. -- --Thanks, --Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
Hi Jim, I never tried it with a version earlier than V3R3, so that was the reason for saying so. However, I am not sure from what version of COBOL on, there was no need for OO COBOL anymore, just mixed case COBOL can be used these days, not a COBOL class. In addition, what came into my mind after posting the reply, there are also vendor products which might be able to access Oracle, e.g. IBMs Information Integrator. Denis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 6:35 PM Subject: Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch On 4/16/07, Denis Gäbler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > the easiest way is probably to write a Java Stored Procedure for DB2 on > z/OS that uses JDBC to access the Oracle DB. Then its fairly easy to call > that stored proc from CICS and batch. > Another solution could be to write a Java Class that does the JDBC to > Oracle, wrap that class with Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3R3 or higher and > call that COBOL module from CICS or Batch (any language, just a CALL MODULE, > but requires special CEEUOPTs e.g. XPLINK(ON) and POSIX(ON)). > > Just my 2 cent. > Denis. Denis, thanks for your suggestions. As it happens we have recently been playing with calling Java classes from COBOL and have managed to get that to work. One question, why do you say Enterprise COBOL 3.3 or higher. We have 3.1 installed here and that seemed to work fine. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
Oracle has an Oracle for DRDA adapter which runs on an Oracle box and plays with DB2's DDF; they also have an Oracle DB2 gateway which runs as two started tasks on the mainframe: network and gateway, and makes DB2 appear to an Oracle network as another Oracle instance. I've installed the latter, it works pretty well. Requires a small DB2 database which contains some mapping info (I think it's one row). There's an Oracle subsystem (usually named ORAC); you use ORAC commands to start and stop gateway pieces which let us fit it into our AF/Operator automation. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
In my previous post I mentioned the DB2 gateway - I'm not sure it works bi-directionally; Oracle's DRDA gateway is probably what you want. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
My memory is a bit sketchy, but in a previous life we had an Oracle Net task running on OS/390, thus allowing you to code Oracle SQL statements directly in Cobol. I believe such programs were also linked with an Oracle Stub... I am not sure if this setup still exists/works today with z/OS and do not know what the cost is for running Oracle Net (I would assume it isn't free!). Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch Cross posted to the DB2 listserv. Is there a way to accomplish the above. We need to be able to do a SELECT statement from CICS and batch to an Oracle database which resides on a Unix box. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effects of Linux on z...ISV support and z/OS (Was: IBM to the PCM market)
On 15 Apr 2007 06:09:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >That's the classic example, but there are many others. M$ seems to be >in love with the concept of active documents and never takes security >into account when they extend a format to include executable content. I think most programmers were in love with that kind of power - until we discovered the downside. Now we *still* want that power - but moderated. I read an article that said that Macintosh's aren't safe because they aren't a target, but because they were willing to start over, with a new (Unix) core. Even mainframers have to use a multitude of systems as our universes merge. Sometimes we need to step back and evaluate what we've got - and be willing to start over. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IVP for JAVA
Thanks all. I got the NON-SMPE version of JAVA SDK 3.1 and put it on the C drive. Should I pre-allocate a dataset on the frame and if so what should the LRECL and BLKSIZE be. Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Robert Bardos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IVP for JAVA Robert Pelletier, the link had wrapped, that's all. Try again with http://preview.tinyurl.com/ys8492 Robert Bardos Ansys AG, Zurich, Switzerland > > The page you requested cannot be displayed > > Try > http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/j > ava/sdk131readme > .html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
The OEM herd thins a little more
Mobius bought by Allen Systems Group. Film at 11. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IVP for JAVA
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IVP for JAVA > > > Thanks all. I got the NON-SMPE version of JAVA SDK 3.1 and > put it on the > C drive. Should I pre-allocate a dataset on the frame and if so what > should the LRECL and BLKSIZE be. Thanks all. > > > Have a Nice Day ! > > Bob Pelletier Isn't it a "pax" file? If so, then you can upload it as a UNIX file, then "unwind" it using the pax command (pax -rf). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IVP for JAVA
There should be a separate README file TO DOWNLOAD that tells you how to install java. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IVP for JAVA > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IVP for JAVA > > > Thanks all. I got the NON-SMPE version of JAVA SDK 3.1 and > put it on the > C drive. Should I pre-allocate a dataset on the frame and if so what > should the LRECL and BLKSIZE be. Thanks all. > > > Have a Nice Day ! > > Bob Pelletier Isn't it a "pax" file? If so, then you can upload it as a UNIX file, then "unwind" it using the pax command (pax -rf). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:58:48 -0500 > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris > > > Before all of carry on in our smugness, I have seen a number of > > applications with intentional abends and created more than one batch > > process with that. > > But, in the given case, I would have thought a dialog box with a message > about a corrupted input file, along with the name of the file, would be > significantly better than just crashing. > On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no way to report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". Even if you use the prescribed DCB exit list? That's not my experience. Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
S813-04 Tape errors
All, I have a weird one going that I need some direction on. I've got a tape that was created this past Friday with 136 stacked files on it. BTW, this is a vitual 3490 tape emulated in the new IBM Hydra 7700 VTS. What is weird is that there are a bunch of stacked files missing(note the missing FSEQ #'s): 43 1P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 2285 159.7 4509.5 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 44 2P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 856.0 4515.5 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 52 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 20.2 4515.7 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 60 8P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 100.7 4516.4 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 61 9P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 8451 590.7 5107.1 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 62 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 41354 2890.3 7997.4 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 Of course the jobs abending want a dataset cataloged to this tape at FSEQ #46. CA-1 says it's there, the CATALOG says it should be there, but this tape label dump of the virtual tape, clearly shows its not there. I've looked at the job that created this tape, and no abends, or abnormal messages, nothing in LOGREC. I'm at a loss of where to look next. If this were a real tape, I'd think that the tape was bad. I'm even at a loss on where to start with problem tickets - hardware? CA-1, Z/OS (1.6). I'm almost thinking it is somehow a problem with the 7700. Thanks for any feedback. dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:10:39 -0400, Jousma, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All, > >I have a weird one going that I need some direction on. I've got a tape >that was created this past Friday with 136 stacked files on it. BTW, >this is a vitual 3490 tape emulated in the new IBM Hydra 7700 VTS. What >is weird is that there are a bunch of stacked files missing(note the >missing FSEQ #'s): > >43 1P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 2285 159.7 4509.5 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 >44 2P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 856.0 4515.5 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 >52 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 20.2 4515.7 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 >60 8P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 100.7 4516.4 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 >61 9P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 8451 590.7 5107.1 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 >62 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 41354 2890.3 7997.4 >13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > >Of course the jobs abending want a dataset cataloged to this tape at >FSEQ #46. CA-1 says it's there, the CATALOG says it should be there, >but this tape label dump of the virtual tape, clearly shows its not >there. I've looked at the job that created this tape, and no abends, or >abnormal messages, nothing in LOGREC. > >I'm at a loss of where to look next. If this were a real tape, I'd >think that the tape was bad. I'm even at a loss on where to start with >problem tickets - hardware? CA-1, Z/OS (1.6). I'm almost thinking it >is somehow a problem with the 7700. > >Thanks for any feedback. > Being that it is a virtual tape, my first suspect with be the 7700. What does CA-1 tell you for how many blocks were on the file? Anything in common with the other missing files? "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
Mark, That is the direction we are headed with the VTS group. Kinda scary if it is dropping data though. CA-1 says there are anywhere from 2 - 30 blocks on each of the missing files. I see nothing in common. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: S813-04 Tape errors On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:10:39 -0400, Jousma, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Being that it is a virtual tape, my first suspect with be the 7700. What does CA-1 tell you for how many blocks were on the file? Anything in common with the other missing files? "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Mark -- This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMPNTS question
I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. Therefore, I use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders downloaded to my desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, ftp it (binary) up to the z/OS system, and use "pax" to unwind (explode, untar) it. I then do the SMP/E RECEIVE FROM NTS command. Is there any need to keep the SMPNTS subdirectory around after this is done successfully? I cannot think of any. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
Does anyone have the pointer to the IBM document describing the recommended SYSRES cloning environment? Instead of using an online and an offline res with a target zone for each, I'm being told that I should just modify the DDDEFs in the existing target zone to point to the offline res (gag, ack, barf, no backoff other than restoring the target zone, target and online res out of sync, etc.). I need to convince them that the WAC method is better (online/offline res and target zones, copy online to offline res, zonecopy online to offline target, and zoneedit offline target DDDEFs), but it would help if I could find the IBM doc to back it up. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
- Original Message - From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: SMPNTS question I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. Therefore, I use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders downloaded to my desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, ftp it (binary) up to the z/OS system, and use "pax" to unwind (explode, untar) it. I then do the SMP/E RECEIVE FROM NTS command. Is there any need to keep the SMPNTS subdirectory around after this is done successfully? I cannot think of any. John, The file you download is already pax'd, so don't waste time creating another tarball on your PC. You can delete the folder, but for program products, I keep it like I would keep the tape. I would otherwise hang onto it until after ACCEPT, but that's just the kind of guy I am. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinnacle > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMPNTS question > > > - Original Message - > From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:01 PM > Subject: SMPNTS question > > > >I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. > Therefore, I > > use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders > downloaded to my > > desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, > ftp it (binary) > > up to the z/OS system, and use "pax" to unwind (explode, > untar) it. I > > then do the SMP/E RECEIVE FROM NTS command. Is there any > need to keep > > the SMPNTS subdirectory around after this is done > successfully? I cannot > > think of any. > > John, > > The file you download is already pax'd, so don't waste time > creating another > tarball on your PC. Hum, I don't see any pax file on my PC. I just see a subdirectory like: c:\DownloadDirector\U00372248_B7133971_PROD In that subdirectory is GIMPAF.XML, GIMPAF.XSL, SMPHOLD (containing a .pax.Z file), and SMPPTFIN (containing another .pax.Z file). I must upload all of these file, which for me is done most easily by tar'ing them together and pax restoring them on z/OS. > You can delete the folder, but for > program products, I > keep it like I would keep the tape. I would otherwise hang > onto it until > after ACCEPT, but that's just the kind of guy I am. I keep the stuff on my PC drive. It is sad when I can get more HD space on my PC than I can justify on the z/OS system for all this, uh, stuff. > > Regards, > Tom Conley -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
My question is: If you are downloading PUT levels, why not go directly to a z/OS HFS instead of using the PC as an intermediate step? I found it was more of a hassle to download to the PC and upload to z/OS, unless your environment does not allow direct downloads from ShopzSeries. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-457-3736 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPNTS question I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. Therefore, I use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders downloaded to my desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, ftp it (binary) up to the z/OS system, and use "pax" to unwind (explode, untar) it. I then do the SMP/E RECEIVE FROM NTS command. Is there any need to keep the SMPNTS subdirectory around after this is done successfully? I cannot think of any. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMPNTS question > > > My question is: If you are downloading PUT levels, why not go directly > to a z/OS HFS instead of using the PC as an intermediate step? > > I found it was more of a hassle to download to the PC and upload to > z/OS, unless your environment does not allow direct downloads from > ShopzSeries. That is it. No Internet connectivity for z/OS. Corporate Security has spoken. All other voices are now silent. > > > Daniel Allen -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
Before I downloaded directly to z/OS, I was doing something similar. I would download to the PC. Then I would FTP to an HFS directory called /smpe/eso. Next I would run GIMUNZIP unpack the SMPHOLD and SMPPTFIN files. After GIMUNZIP had run and I had received the maintenance, I would delete the files in the HFS until the next time I needed to FTP to z/OS. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-457-3736 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMPNTS question > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMPNTS question > > > My question is: If you are downloading PUT levels, why not go directly > to a z/OS HFS instead of using the PC as an intermediate step? > > I found it was more of a hassle to download to the PC and upload to > z/OS, unless your environment does not allow direct downloads from > ShopzSeries. That is it. No Internet connectivity for z/OS. Corporate Security has spoken. All other voices are now silent. > > > Daniel Allen -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:09:43 -0400, Pinnacle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone have the pointer to the IBM document describing the recommended >SYSRES cloning environment? > >Regards, >Tom Conley Tom - I don't know if it is a "recommendation" but check out the z/OS Planning for Installation manual, E.0 Appendix E. Making a copy of your system software (cloning). Alsy SYS1.SAMPLIB members IEACLN*. HTH, Pat L. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2B117/E.0?SHELF=E0Z2IN61&DT=20070119150533 z/OS Planning for Installation, Appendix E - Original Message - From: "Pinnacle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning? Does anyone have the pointer to the IBM document describing the recommended SYSRES cloning environment? Instead of using an online and an offline res with a target zone for each, I'm being told that I should just modify the DDDEFs in the existing target zone to point to the offline res (gag, ack, barf, no backoff other than restoring the target zone, target and online res out of sync, etc.). I need to convince them that the WAC method is better (online/offline res and target zones, copy online to offline res, zonecopy online to offline target, and zoneedit offline target DDDEFs), but it would help if I could find the IBM doc to back it up. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:01:31 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. Therefore, I >use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders downloaded to my >desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, ftp it (binary) >up to the z/OS system, and use "pax" to unwind (explode, untar) it. I >then do the SMP/E RECEIVE FROM NTS command. Is there any need to keep >the SMPNTS subdirectory around after this is done successfully? I cannot >think of any. You only need SMPNTS for RECEIVE. See the Fine Manual. You can keep it around after that if you like, but it is not required. We are able to do RECEIVEFROMNETWORK (as well as SMP/E 3.4 RECEIVE ORDER) here and I have a shared SMPNTS set up as 4 3390-9 volumes. I then use a weekly skulker command via cron to delete everything older than 90 days. I did run into a problem in that skulker didn't seem to remove the empty directories. I think this was because they kept getting referenced by skulker itself weekly. To get around that problem I borrowed "rmemptydir" from Heiner Steven that I found on the web. I had to modify it not to delete the starting directory in case there was nothing in SMPNTS at all. These days that would be very unlikely, but when we all started using RECEIVEFROMNETWORK it was a possibility. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:09:43 -0400, Pinnacle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone have the pointer to the IBM document describing the recommended >SYSRES cloning environment? Instead of using an online and an offline res >with a target zone for each, I'm being told that I should just modify the >DDDEFs in the existing target zone to point to the offline res (gag, ack, >barf, no backoff other than restoring the target zone, target and online res >out of sync, etc.). I need to convince them that the WAC method is better >(online/offline res and target zones, copy online to offline res, zonecopy >online to offline target, and zoneedit offline target DDDEFs), but it would >help if I could find the IBM doc to back it up. > The only thing I know if is the planning for installation manual. There is information in Appendix E. But I'm not sure I understand you question. It sounds like as if you are asking if swapping between an A and B set method is better than always putting on maintenance to a "maintenance sysres" and then cloning an IPL-able sysres (with a matching target zone hopefully). If so, both methods are fine and I have used the former in smaller shops but in larger shops I have always used the latter method.Of course there is lots of opinions about this stuff in the archives. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
It's a little dated, but it is the one I use for a basis on my system(s). OS/390 Software Management Cookbook, SG24-4475. Specifically Chapter 3 covers most of what you might be interested in. If you can't find it, let me know through the list, and I'll send a copy. On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:54:09 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:09:43 -0400, Pinnacle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Does anyone have the pointer to the IBM document describing the recommended >>SYSRES cloning environment? Instead of using an online and an offline res >>with a target zone for each, I'm being told that I should just modify the >>DDDEFs in the existing target zone to point to the offline res (gag, ack, >>barf, no backoff other than restoring the target zone, target and online res >>out of sync, etc.). I need to convince them that the WAC method is better >>(online/offline res and target zones, copy online to offline res, zonecopy >>online to offline target, and zoneedit offline target DDDEFs), but it would >>help if I could find the IBM doc to back it up. >> > >The only thing I know if is the planning for installation manual. There is >information in Appendix E. > >But I'm not sure I understand you question. It sounds like as if you are >asking if swapping between an A and B set method is better than always >putting on maintenance to a "maintenance sysres" and then cloning an >IPL-able sysres (with a matching target zone hopefully). If so, both >methods are fine and I have used the former in smaller shops but >in larger shops I have always used the latter method.Of course >there is lots of opinions about this stuff in the archives. > >Mark >-- >Mark Zelden >Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead >Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes
As IEFBR14 is a frontend to SVC 99 (allocation), SVC 13 (abend) is the frontend to RTM. It's a way to stop things in their tracks when fubar is detected. In an online program (either cics or vtam) it is a good way to begin to attempt recovery when storage corruption or resource usage out of range is detected. In a batch stream if a file allocation fails, recovery usually requires intervention by carbon-based recovery routines. We have a program whose sole purpose is to abend when a non-zero rc is detected, usually after IDCAMS. Another use for an abend is to fail a job when recovery-by-waiting exceeds a predetermined limit. We use this to cover for failures by the automation system to react to "rules" in a timely manner. IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 04/16/2007 11:22:57 AM: > On the z/OS side, consider that OPEN has (yet, after 4 decades) no > way to report an error to the caller other than "just crashing". > > -- gil - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Documentation
Hi! I'm installing maintenance in our Test Machine, which is the one with the Book Server. And I was wondering if is there any way of updating the books when you install a ptf? I mean if you can "pass" the DOC HOLDs to the books... Thank you all...again! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rational Clearcase question
Andy Corpes writes: >Our site is currently looking at replacing our mainframe source code >management tool (SCLM) with rational clearcase. >Can anyone on the list share any experience with rational clearcase used as >a zOS source code managmen tool, in particular, for COBOL & assmebler >components, either to replace SCLM or used in conjunction with SCLM. >I am particularly interested in the "TSO Client" application provided by IBM >to allow editing + checkin/out to be performed on the mainframe, as well as >any build management solutions. >The detail would be interesting, but at the moment i am more interested in >concepts & discussions. A few questions: 1. What goals do you hope to meet using ClearCase in lieu of SCLM? 2. Do you have SCLM (base) or SCLM Advanced Edition? 3. Do you use ClearCase somewhere else in your organization? How is it used? Answers to those might help, but I'll try to offer some general, unofficial background. You can e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for official information, and I'd recommend doing that if you haven't already. First of all, both SCLM and Rational ClearCase are now in the same software organization at IBM (i.e. Rational). That changed recently, and I think it's a good thing. I think it bodes well for the development direction for both product families. Yes, ClearCase does offer the TSO Client feature (for 3270-based programmers) as well as the Remote Build feature (so you can do your compiles from the source library). Here are some technical details: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=984&uid=pub1gi11671400 Both product families handle fundamentally the same jobs at a high level. I think how people decide between the two (or get both) revolves around some of these factors: 1. How highly customized is the build process? How complex? The more complex/customized, the more likely SCLM/SCLM Advanced is appropriate. 2. Are you using another z/OS-based source library? In my experience the preferred migration target is SCLM in those cases, although sometimes ClearCase comes along for the ride. 3. How important is your mainframe-based source code? Are there strong security, retention, availability, and disaster recovery needs? If your code is extra valuable and sensitive -- it is for many organizations -- then SCLM's z/OS foundation is a major benefit. If they do use ClearCase for mainframe development, organizations typically install ClearCase on Linux on z -- and then use that for their entire enterprise. 4. What client developer tools do you use? Rational ClearCase supports a wider variety, although both support Eclipse-based clients (including WebSphere Developer for System z). Yes, you can check-in/check-out Java code with SCLM for your Microsoft Windows deployment, to pick an example. 5. Do you have some wacky procurement problems? Base SCLM is a no-charge z/OS feature. Do you have a very large population of developers? Rational ClearCase is one-time charge per user, while SCLM Advanced Edition is one-time charge per MSU (with possible subcapacity pricing benefit). Does your organization count z/OS MIPS as religious dogma while racking up more distributed servers each hour (because they're "cheap"), look at potential (small) SCLM workload in isolation without considering full workload effects (e.g. the build process), and/or have absolutely no freaking clue how properly to measure IT costs (and is thus probably one step away from the CEO/CFO just throwing up their hands and saying "outsource the whole lot of you")? :-) Rational ClearCase is able to run on another operating system. 6. Do you outsource some of your development, or do you plan to? Do you need the same source library system to run on a distributed server, separately in the outsourcer's own facility, perhaps because network connections back to your shop are slow or difficult? Do you have poor network connections to your own remote development facility? Rational ClearCase can run on a variety of platforms. Intel/AMD Linux is a good choice if you need to run it on a distributed server, since installation and configuration steps are the same as Linux on z. 7. Are there specific features and functions in one or the other that you like? That may suggest one or the other. Are there functions in both that you like? That might suggest running both and connecting them together to move code. (Yes, that's possible.) 8. Do you need to administer the source library system itself via 3270 interfaces (in addition to graphically)? Rational ClearCase doesn't support that. 9. Do you like/need some of the other closely affiliated product functions to ClearCase, e.g. ClearQuest? That might suggest Rational ClearCase and packaged licensing. Anyway, those are some of the typical decision areas. Please do check for the latest official information. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
Dave, I agree with Mark; this sure looks like a hardware problem. If CA-1 says the files were created and have data on them; as well as the OS Catalog; then those files better exist on that tape or someone has some serious explaining to do. One thing to look at is the CA-1 cdate/ctime fields for those files (or look at the AUDIT report) and see if there were any indications as the files were being created (I/O errors, MIH's, anything). Once file-x is created and file x+1 has been created there should be no way to go back and "remove" file-x. Not without also removing all subsequent files. So if it just some intermittent file gaps, you need to analyze the syslog while they were being created. Good luck and let us know what the problem turns out to be Russell Witt CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: S813-04 Tape errors Mark, That is the direction we are headed with the VTS group. Kinda scary if it is dropping data though. CA-1 says there are anywhere from 2 - 30 blocks on each of the missing files. I see nothing in common. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:19:38 -0500 > > Hum, I don't see any pax file on my PC. I just see a subdirectory like: > > c:\DownloadDirector\U00372248_B7133971_PROD > > In that subdirectory is GIMPAF.XML, GIMPAF.XSL, SMPHOLD (containing a > .pax.Z file), and SMPPTFIN (containing another .pax.Z file). I must > upload all of these file, which for me is done most easily by tar'ing > them together and pax restoring them on z/OS. > I agree. Further, tar it, but don't compress it. The component files are (mostly) already compressed, and when I tried compressing the tar file it bloated significantly. > I keep the stuff on my PC drive. It is sad when I can get more HD space > on my PC than I can justify on the z/OS system for all this, uh, stuff. > Dump it to a CD-ROM and put it on a shelf? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:01:31 -0500 > > I cannot directly access the Internet from our z/OS system. Therefore, I > use the IBM "Download Manager" to get my SMP/E orders downloaded to my > desktop. I then "tar" that subdirectory into a tar file, ftp it (binary) > If you can run an FTP server on that desktop, you can do a RECEIVE FROMNETWORK and eliminate tar; ftp; pax. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation
Not exactly what you asked for, but just in case it's helpful... IBM creates a BookManager book (now two volumes) every week with the ++DOC hold data from PTFs. You can view the book online, or download the .BOO file. http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/ Look for the following at the bottom of the page: -=-=-=-=- z/OS DOC APAR and ++HOLD DOC documentation [ Search | List DOC APARS books ] Obtain the latest updates to the z/OS base elements and optional features documentation that result from DOC APARs and PTFs (++HOLD DOC). IBM has gathered these updates so you can: o Search all changes o Print a documentation update o Obtain weekly updates of this information -=-=-=-=- Brian On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:54:58 +0200, Víctor de la Fuente wrote: >Hi! > >I'm installing maintenance in our Test Machine, which is the one with the >Book Server. And I was wondering if is there any way of updating the books >when you install a ptf? I mean if you can "pass" the DOC HOLDs to the >books... > >Thank you all...again! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
On 16 Apr 2007 16:11:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Russell Witt) wrote: Once file-x is created and file x+1 has been created there should be no way to go back and "remove" file-x. Not without also removing all subsequent files. So if it just some intermittent file gaps, you need to analyze the syslog while they were being created. Also, check the syslogs of any other systems which share the VTS. Improper sharing is a long shot, but worth checking into. -- I cannot receive mail at the address this was sent from. To reply directly, send to ar23hur "at" intergate "dot" com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPNTS question
- Original Message - From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: RE: SMPNTS question Hum, I don't see any pax file on my PC. I just see a subdirectory like: c:\DownloadDirector\U00372248_B7133971_PROD In that subdirectory is GIMPAF.XML, GIMPAF.XSL, SMPHOLD (containing a pax.Z file), and SMPPTFIN (containing another .pax.Z file). I must upload all of these file, which for me is done most easily by tar'ing them together and pax restoring them on z/OS. Or you could use a GUI FTP product and send the whole folder to your SMPNTS. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Fw: LE Options
I have NOT tried this myself, but if you are looking for a utility to do what you want, try running a job with the following step: //LISTOPT EXEC PGM=EDCALIAS,PARM='ROPTOPTS(ON)/' >From what I have heard you may (or may not) get "other stuff" and possibly some ODD messages, but you should (from what I have been told) get a list of what options are in effect for your batch programs and where they are set. Obviously, as indicated elsewhere, your CICS and region and application and PARMLIB-specific options MAY be different from what you see from this, but it SHOULD work as a "utility to show what options are in effect" P.S. As you can tell from the LE documentation, this is NOT the purpose of EDCALIAS - but it should "do nothing" if you don't give it anything "useful" to do and should allow you to get the options in effect. "David Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Yes, that option does work. However I was looking for a possible Utility > common to all systems. So I don't have to send out my crude "Hello > World" :) > > I would be nice if IBM has a utility can came as part of LE that would > search your systems and dump all values - as a diagnostic aid. Looks > like that's not there. > > Thanks, > Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
At 15:10 -0400 on 04/16/2007, Jousma, David wrote about S813-04 Tape errors: All, I have a weird one going that I need some direction on. I've got a tape that was created this past Friday with 136 stacked files on it. BTW, this is a vitual 3490 tape emulated in the new IBM Hydra 7700 VTS. What is weird is that there are a bunch of stacked files missing(note the missing FSEQ #'s): 43 1P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 2285 159.7 4509.5 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 44 2P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 856.0 4515.5 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 52 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 20.2 4515.7 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 60 8P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 100.7 4516.4 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 61 9P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 8451 590.7 5107.1 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 62 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 41354 2890.3 7997.4 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 Of course the jobs abending want a dataset cataloged to this tape at FSEQ #46. CA-1 says it's there, the CATALOG says it should be there, but this tape label dump of the virtual tape, clearly shows its not there. I've looked at the job that created this tape, and no abends, or abnormal messages, nothing in LOGREC. Have you tried to read the file at FSEQ=52 (ie: The first file after the GAP)? Does it read correctly and is it the correct data (ie: Not the data that should have been in FSEQ=45)? From what you show, I'd suspect the 7700 since it seems to be ignoring the lack of FSEQs=45-51 and FSEQs=53-59 and is claiming that the file after FSEQ=44 is FSEQ=52. Do you have a utility that will read EVERY file on the tape as BLP and display the first few records (I seem to remember that this type of utility exists and is on the CBT Tape). If you have such a Utility (or get it from the CBT Tape) then run it. It should show the VOL1/HDR/EOF headers with Data Records 1-3 interspersed. Once it shows FSEQ44's EOF, what is shown next? If it is FSEQ52's HDR1+HDR2 (and they read FSEQ52) then there is something major wrong unless the 7700 saves each file seperatly and creates the Virtual Tape Image on the fly by pointing at the separate files (as opposed to having the Tape Image as a single file). If it does On-The-Fly Build then the error is on the 7700 with the table it uses to assemble the Tape Image (ie: It says the 45th file on the tape is the file whose FSEQ is 52 with FSEQ=60 as file 46. IOW: It lost the pointers to the FSEQ=45-51 and 53-59 images and never placed them into its table (just making FSEQ52 and 60 the next files after FSEQ44 when it builds it On-The-Fly Tape Image). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings.
Hi Paul, The macros are not compatible (I suspect) with PL/I or BPX1*. For some years, using Borland compilers, I managed to get the 2 byte length field just in front of the string. I couldn't use a structure, which would have guaranteed the position because then the debugger and all the routines that expected the binary zero to be present wouldn't function. So, defined the binary length part, and immediately followed it with the string. That worked fine until I used the GCC compiler, and it insisted on placing a variable number of filler bytes between length word, and the string. So, total revamp, and nothing was the same in my bit world again!!! What is needed is for ANSI to bite the bullet and fix the problem. Or for someone big, like IBM to do it, and force a standard change. (As an aside, there is a language called D, which has a length word for strings, I believe. It is written by Walter Bright, who wrote the original Zortech C compilers. Bright by name, bright by nature... I think it uses the GCC C compiler as a backend.) But I shall write to ANSI now. Again, I think The thing is that there is quite a lot of straight C code making it's way into Z/OS at the moment. And it should take into account these performance robbing routines. Clem Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Clem Clarke said: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:11:45 +0800 I have spent some years studying this problem and have developed some User friendly C macros that solve the problem. These are reminiscent of the StrAllocCat, StrAllocCopy, et. al. family of string functions which are used in Mosaic and its browser progeny. References at site:w3.org and site:webhistory.org for example. We're in agreement tnat C strings were ill-conceived. z/OS Unix services BPX1* assembler callable interfaces wisely eschewed them in favor of descriptors. Are your macros compatible with either the descriptors used by PL/I or those used by BPX1*? (Are the two the same?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings.
In a recent note, Clem Clarke said: > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:08:37 +0800 > > What is needed is for ANSI to bite the bullet and fix the problem. Or > for someone big, like IBM to do it, and force a standard change. (As an > aside, there is a language called D, which has a length word for > strings, I believe. It is written by Walter Bright, who wrote the > original Zortech C compilers. Bright by name, bright by nature... I > think it uses the GCC C compiler as a backend.) > Don't stop halfway. I am as opposed to a lengthword at the front of the string as to a null at the back. There should be a descriptor with two members: address and length. This would make substring a very efficient operation: create a new descriptor with no need to allocate and copy. And I believe it's BPX1* friendly. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings.
Yes. I dropped the same message into a C newsgroup. Some of the people recognized the problem, but essentially they don't care, I think. I guess if you have heaps of computing power at your fingertips in the way of Linux boxes, and if they aren't doing the same sort of work as most Z/OS shops, it doesn't matter much. They have made a judgment that what they have is great. And judgments stop you receiving. They build walls around you so nothing (information, money whatever) can come to you. Speaking of which, I intend to say something about IBM's behaviour about Flex, Hercules etc. I am trying to choose my words carefully - very carefully Ce la vie, Clem Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/13/2007 at 03:11 PM, Clem Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Some 20 years ago, it became clear that C strings were not as safe, nor as fast, as strings in PL/I, Assembler or Pascal. The same applies to C arrays in general. The confusion between arrays and pointers, and the lack of bounds checking, appalled me three decades ago, and everything that I have seen since has confirmed my original judgment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM document describing SYSRES cloning?
Hello Tom, another reference is the Redbook SG24-5451-00 Parallel Sysplex - Software Management for Availability It provides some sample programs, including SYMUPDTE, to assist the process. Regards Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
Oh, good one. I remember back in the olden days with 3420's shared between two systems (no MIA, no tape-sharing software); if CPUA was using the drive and someone accidently varied the drive online to CPUB the job running on CPUA kept writing to the device even though it had been un-wound. Worst part was that the job on CPUA might not even abend if the operator saw their mistake and cancelled the job on CPUB before it tried to write any data. CPUA kept writing data without knowing that the device had been un-wound. So we had to actually cancel the job and restart it; of course we had to use a checkpoint restart from before that specific volume had even been mounted yet so we lost a lot of time. Russell -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arthur T. Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: S813-04 Tape errors Also, check the syslogs of any other systems which share the VTS. Improper sharing is a long shot, but worth checking into. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HSM ARC0570I FRBACKUP FOR COPY POOL=CPDATABASE1 VOULUME(S) TERMINATER RC=34,REASON=0
Dear all Our shop is z/OS 1.8. we want to use FRBACKUP function. 1. We defined copy pools whose name is CPDATABASE1 . Panel Utilities Scroll Help -- COPY POOL DEFINE Page 1 of 3 Command ===> SCDS Name . . : IBMUSER.SCDS Copy Pool Name : CPDATABASE1 To DEFINE Copy Pool, Specify: Description ==> ==> Number of Recoverable DASD Fast Replicate Backup Versions . . . . 2 (1 to 85 or blank) Storage Group Names: (specify 1 to 256 names) ==> SGTEST ==> ==> ==> ==> ==> ==> Use ENTER to Perform Verification; Use DOWN Command to View next Panel; Use HELP Command for Help; Use END Command to Save and Exit; CANCEL to Exit. 2. Define storage group whose name is SGTEST,and add one volume to this group. POOL STORAGE GROUP DEFINE Command ===> SCDS Name . . . . . : IBMUSER.SCDS Storage Group Name : SGTEST To DEFINE Storage Group, Specify: Description ==>__ ==>__ Auto Migrate . . Y (Y, N, I or P) Migrate Sys/Sys Group Name . . _ Auto Backup . . Y (Y or N) Backup Sys/Sys Group Name . . _ Auto Dump . . . N (Y or N) Dump Sys/Sys Group Name . . . _ Overflow . . . . N (Y or N) Extend SG Name . . . . . . . . _ Copy Pool Backup SG Name . . . TEST01 Dump Class . . . (1 to 8 characters) Dump Class . . . Dump Class . . . Dump Class . . . Dump Class . . . Allocation/migration Threshold: High . . 85 (1-99) Low . . (0-99) Guaranteed Backup Frequency . . . . . . (1 to or NOLIMIT) DEFINE SMS Storage Group Status . . N (Y or N) Use ENTER to Perform Verification and Selection; Use HELP Command for Help; Use END Command to Save and Exit; CANCEL to Exit. 3.Define a Copy Pool Backup Storage Group whose name is TEST01,and add two volume to the group. Panel Utilities Help --- COPY POOL BACKUP STORAGE GROUP DEFINE Command ===> SCDS Name . . . . . : IBMUSER.SCDS Storage Group Name : TEST01 To DEFINE Storage Group, Specify: Description ==> ==> DEFINESMS Storage Group Status . . . N (Y or N) Use ENTER to Perform Verification; Use HELP Command for Help; Use END Command to Save and Exit; CANCEL to Exit. Panel Utilities Help 4.Make the SCDS activate. 5. issure HSEND FRBACKUP COPYPOOL(CPDATABASE1) PREPARE We get
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
"Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 53.com>... > All, > > I have a weird one going that I need some direction on. I've got a tape > that was created this past Friday with 136 stacked files on it. BTW, > this is a vitual 3490 tape emulated in the new IBM Hydra 7700 VTS. What > is weird is that there are a bunch of stacked files missing(note the > missing FSEQ #'s): > > 43 1P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 2285 159.7 4509.5 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 44 2P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 856.0 4515.5 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 52 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 20.2 4515.7 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 > 60 8P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 100.7 4516.4 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 > 61 9P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 8451 590.7 5107.1 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 62 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 41354 2890.3 7997.4 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > > Of course the jobs abending want a dataset cataloged to this tape at > FSEQ #46. CA-1 says it's there, the CATALOG says it should be there, > but this tape label dump of the virtual tape, clearly shows its not > there. I've looked at the job that created this tape, and no abends, or > abnormal messages, nothing in LOGREC. > > I'm at a loss of where to look next. If this were a real tape, I'd > think that the tape was bad. I'm even at a loss on where to start with > problem tickets - hardware? CA-1, Z/OS (1.6). I'm almost thinking it > is somehow a problem with the 7700. > > Thanks for any feedback. > > dave > Dave, Please keep us informed, we are planning to take our TS7700 Gridconfiguration in production next week and any info on wheter this is a NOGO or a false alarm will be more than welcome before that moment. Is anyone having an TS7700 Grid configuration in production and what are your experiences? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
"Russell Witt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Oh, good one. I remember back in the olden days with 3420's shared between > two systems (no MIA, no tape-sharing software); if CPUA was using the drive > and someone accidently varied the drive online to CPUB the job running on > CPUA kept writing to the device even though it had been un-wound. Worst part > was that the job on CPUA might not even abend if the operator saw their > mistake and cancelled the job on CPUB before it tried to write any data. > CPUA kept writing data without knowing that the device had been un-wound. So > we had to actually cancel the job and restart it; of course we had to use a > checkpoint restart from before that specific volume had even been mounted > yet so we lost a lot of time. > > Russell > Russel, I know this situation, but in contrast to Dave's problem, in this situation (after rewinding) the labels and first files will have been overwritten. In Dave's case, this start of the tape seems OK, so it does not look like an unsollicited rewind. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S813-04 Tape errors
"Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 53.com>... > All, > > I have a weird one going that I need some direction on. I've got a tape > that was created this past Friday with 136 stacked files on it. BTW, > this is a vitual 3490 tape emulated in the new IBM Hydra 7700 VTS. What > is weird is that there are a bunch of stacked files missing(note the > missing FSEQ #'s): > > 43 1P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 2285 159.7 4509.5 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 44 2P1.COPY.G1024V00FB 4096 28672 856.0 4515.5 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 52 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 20.2 4515.7 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 > 60 8P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 100.7 4516.4 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 2 0 > 61 9P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 8451 590.7 5107.1 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > 62 0P1.COPY.G1023V00FB 4096 28672 41354 2890.3 7997.4 > 13APR2007 00099 P0DBDXCA/STPU001 P 5 NO 0 0 > > Of course the jobs abending want a dataset cataloged to this tape at > FSEQ #46. CA-1 says it's there, the CATALOG says it should be there, > but this tape label dump of the virtual tape, clearly shows its not > there. I've looked at the job that created this tape, and no abends, or > abnormal messages, nothing in LOGREC. > > I'm at a loss of where to look next. If this were a real tape, I'd > think that the tape was bad. I'm even at a loss on where to start with > problem tickets - hardware? CA-1, Z/OS (1.6). I'm almost thinking it > is somehow a problem with the 7700. > > Thanks for any feedback. > > dave > Dave, What is the microcode level of your TS7700? V1.2 is out for a couple of weeks already. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
