Re: Upgrade went mostly well :(
In a message dated 6/24/2007 3:11:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that Crypto Express2 needs to be configured as a co-processor use the PPINIT utility. Because SSL is the majority (all) of our current use, I configured all three as SSL accelerators. I had to re-configure back to co-processor to run the PPINIT utility. The Net-Pass key came in this morning. The z9 and 1000G OSA appear much faster. Temp BMC key for Control-D runs out tomorrow. So jealous, just wondering why this didn't get covered in the SAPR? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem
Hi Mark,Bill, Thanks for the responses. Mark, I added the STEPLIB variable to point to SCEERUN2 and the compilation went ok. (See below). I must ask this. How did you know that the SCEERUN2 PDS was required in STEPLIB ? Regards, Nags. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
On Sun, 24 Jun 07 11:16:37 GMT, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: We may moan about Microsoft today, but compared to the vendors of the early eighties they are pusscats. They have the power to make such a mess that everybody who doesn't use the gear will also be affected. I suspect some of Microsoft's monopoly power will end up being like the cable companies' monopoly power - bypassed by a changing technology and marketplace. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Mark Unfortunately for the current context - but fortunately for me - since I worked only with test/education systems and had a support team to hand, I was generally not involved in initiating problem reporting - although I used to follow any in the system. I made this comment about misrouting based on what I understood from a post from Steve Thompson, Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:57 PM, in the thread USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications). I was going to apologise for misunderstanding but I don't believe I did. Here - with I hope Steve's implicit permission - is what he said: quote And in an ETR I had open with IBM, they [the TCP group] had to agree that using USS for Unix System Services was causing confusion when we also needed to discuss USS [VTAM] while discussing OMVS... Also, I recall seeing a non-published memo (internal, but not IBM Confidential) where someone in support was pointing out the ambiguity being caused by Unix System Services being referred to by USS (when it is specifically part of VTAM) for routing of support issues /quote Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules) On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:28:29 +0200, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And please be aware that your problem reports may be misrouted if you use USS rather than UNIX System Services. I would have expected you to care about that at least! Chris, Most of us open PMRs via IBMLINK - when it is actually up. :-) You select the component when you open the PMR. I wouldn't expect a z/OS Unix ticket to get routed to VTAM just be cause I used the USS abbreviation any more than I would expect a ticket opened with catalog about the CSI get somehow get routed to SMP/E support. Even if you open a PMR over the phone, they still ask you which component. It only goes to a general queue when you don't know. -- Mark Zelden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Phil Prepare to be yet further enlightened. Referring back to your initial post I, in my turn, don't *believe* there need be any discussion over how USS is normally pronounced. That is I know for sure you ess ess is what is used for Unformatted System Services (as opposed to Formatted System Services FSS, ef ess ess) and I'm almost certain that the heretics use the same pronunciation for their impostor. Within one organisation, I, again in my turn, *believe* that any abbreviation should have an unique interpretation - I needed Google/Wikipedia for TLA incidentally. This is particularly so where a TLA may be relied upon by those dumb computers things to perform their job. And where discussion of the topic *could* lead to confusion such as can happen when the subject is TELNET. To be sure you are aware of this possibility, I offer the following reference: Telnet USS table setup is a subchapter title from within Chapter 14, TN3270 Telnet Server, of the Communications Server IP Configuration Reference manual, a current and very widely used manual, very probably widely used by those who have a major interest in UNIX System Services[1]. Anyone assuming that USS here meant UNIX System Services would have a very hard time trying to understand what followed in this part of the chapter. As I keep pointing out - although with very little effect - you are invited to see how often the TLA USS appears in the manuals in the UNIX System Services bookshelf. *If* USS was the proper usage, it the text search within the bookshelf should produce a hit count in the hundreds. To show what I mean, just compare counts for UNIX and USS: UNIX USS Command Reference336- Planning 3445 User's Guide 228- Programming Assembler Callable Services Reference305- Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services 68- Programming Tools 62- File System Interface Reference 1742 Messages and Codes 3043 Connection Scaling Reference for iBaanERP 24- Parallel Environment Operation and Use391 PE MPI Programming and Subroutine Reference 15- If you want to know what the hits for USS in the UNIX System Services manuals are, you can find it in a previous post in the thread Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications dated 5th of this month where I so kindly for all interested parties copied my analysis from 6 months earlier. This time I used the V1R8 manuals and I probably did also in December. I insisted only that you bear in mind that USS is ambiguous and that you take care to deal with that ambiguity in context. You may also care to bear in mind that it will inevitably confuse and upset some who see USS and will, initially at least, think you are talking nonsense. They will also probably have the courtesy neither to snigger nor to snicker.[2] I have no interest in the z/Linux discussion. There is one product which uses Linux on System z in which I have an observer's interest. This is Communications Controller for Linux on System z (CCL). From this I can judge that Linux on System z is the official name but that's the extent of my interest. Actually, the official name is a little complicated. If I follow up the System Requirements on the web page for CCL, I find the following for simply Linux: quote - Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS version 4 - SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 for IBM zSeries and IBM S/390 (SLES10) - SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 for IBM zSeries and IBM S/390 (SLES9) - SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 for IBM zSeries and IBM S/390 (SLES8) /quote This seems to suggest that any - non-ambiguous - abbreviation, which also, as you suggest, does not fall foul of some sort of previous claim to ownership, may be used for one of the family of products which supplies the Linux operating system to run on a z machine. In fact there is another product in which I also take an observer's interest which is one of the Communications Server range of products which, incidentally, apart from z/OS Communications Server, - I believe - purely support SNA protocols. Here the web page link for the library is written as Communications Server for Linux on zSeries but when you get to the referenced page, the only manual which is specific to the z implementation, as opposed to the Intel implementation, is the Quick Start Guide where again System z is used in the title. Thus is appears that any of Linux for/on zSeries or Linux for/on System z is acceptable to describe a product which runs on one of the Linux's which run on z hardware. I'm afraid I wasn't really following the previous discussion about how to describe Linux running on z hardware
Re: Operating systems are old and busted
. . . and for those of you who -- like me -- were made curious by Shane's remark, here is the minix3 URL: http://www.minix3.org/ From the site: What hardware do I need to run MINIX 3? You need an Intel 386 or higher with 4 MB of RAM, an IDE hard disk with100 MB of free disk space, and an IDE CD-ROM for booting. It is not possible to boot off a USB CD-ROM drive (yet). Jon snip Why wait ???. Last week I meandered into the minix3 site - what goes around comes around. Kernel is around 4000 lines - IP and X included. Will have to give it a go, just for the experience. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:04:14 -0500, Peter Flass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not can't, *won't*. By breaking stuff every release they force people to upgrade all their software without having to make any improvements that would make people want to upgrade. It's a money fountain, they don't want to turn it off, and most lusers are too uninformed to realize there's any other choice. Third-party vendors benefit from this too, as do hardware menufacturers. It's like the bad old days of Detroit planned obsolescence. Detroit was finally forced to change by the competition. I'm not sure Detroit (or Silicon Valley) had this widely touted planned obsolescence.Nothing is forever, designing a part to last 5 years isn't designing it to fail after 5 years whether it is a car, a printer, or a pair of shoes. Sure, I can buy shoes that last longer than normal - does it mean that those sturdier shoes just have a different planned obsolescence date? (A race car is designed to barely survive a race before needing lots of repair - is that planned obsolescence?) Back to programming - we are moving from easy-to-maintain programs to easy-to-replace programs.There are good reasons for this with how our cost/benefit analysis of our needs have changed.We think of how quickly we produce a product, and how efficiencies change - but another advantage is we can adapt to technologies easier when it is easy to start over. If IBM changes their architecture of their database machine - should programmers care? When Apple changed their chips twice, and moved their core OS to Unix, the average user didn't have much adapting to do. And when the tools figure out how to do their own parallel processing, they will go ahead without most users and even most programmers really having to have a good understanding of what's happening. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?
Kenneth, No, I haven't seen any acceptable workarounds. The main requirement is to allow data to flow from JCL variables into programs, without a 100 character limit. Yes, I would be willing to follow unsupported control blocks to get the information, if that is what it took. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: I think I have time to start looking into this. By now the thread veered off into complaints from eons ago. Most current compilers allow passing parameters in with the source code so JCL limitations are not what they once where for compile procs. The PARM='' limit has not changed. Asking IBM how to reach an undocumented or unsupported control block is not likely to get the results you want. If the have a callable interface then it would be documented. Are you willing to follow control blocks, unsupported, if that is what it takes? Have you given up or found a path to follow? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HR policy
snip It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common use. From the other hand I know companies in Poland where people work for two reasons: a) to get some experience, take some classes and go away with better CV. b) because they don't want to learn, they don't want to work to hard, usually they rather stupid than dumb. Since I part of my job is teaching on mainframe courses, I often meet them (only mainframe staff in fact) and observe their careers. Sometimes one can distinguish a and b -types during first lab. -unsnip-- There are also companys that will give you all the education you ask for, because the rest of the compensation package is so shamefully poor. A catalog-shopping firm I know of comes to mind. It was common knowledge that you went here, picked their pockets for all the education you could get in 2-3 years, then went to a real shop. The compensation package for employees included only very minimal health insurance, with no provision for dependants, below-average salaries, very rigid work hours, minimal vacation time, all that kind of stuff. CAn I say Two sides to every coin?? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:37:25 -0400, Roland Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are absolutely right! That's why I make sure that when I have visitors they can see, usually, four computers, *none* of them running Windows. That way at least a _few_ people get exposed to alternatives :-) And the first question they ask when they notice something unfamiliar is, What kind of Windows is that?, right? Although, there are enough people who have seen (and not laughed at), the computers in movies such as _Jurassic Park_. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Radoslav 3. VTAM Unformated System Services (afaik). Regrettably your knowledge - afaik - doesn't appear to extend sufficiently far. There is no problem with *VTAM* - aka the *SNA* component of Communications Server (CS) - USS but there is a possible ambiguity when the possible use of USS with the *IP* component of CS. See 2.9.4, Telnet USS table setup, in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference Version 1 Release 8, SC31-8776-10, a manual with which I would have expected you to be familiar. Incidentally - only because I spell-check my posts - I may as well improve your knowledge by pointing out that it's Unformatted with two ts. Please do me the courtesy of reading my posts before pontificating. If you memory needs refreshing, please read through my very recent posts on this topic. I'll say it again for your benefit fort the umpteenth time, I challenged the *belief*, not the *usage*. Since you are so keen on purported statistics, I can recall only one occasion in the last two years when I read an post in which the use of USS, given the context, was ambiguous - and I can't recall having initiated an engagement on that occasion - although I may have sent out some scouts with the purpose of reconnoitring the terrain. Phil Smith - who initiated, albeit unwittingly, this fresh eruption - claims rather oddly for a denizen of IBM-MAIN - that he is not a z/OS person. This caused me to reflect over whether or not USS should be denied to VSE and VM VTAM because its z/OS cousin has been somehow superseded by an impostor. I'm more inclined to label this brand of politics anarchy rather than the democracy with which you gild it. Now let us see how your democratic approach might work out. Let us assume that IBM adopts some new technology which is called, say, Uniform Storage System. Let us assume - as is the way when business so-called leaders follow the herd trend - that just everybody and his dog takes up this new technology ... You can see where I'm going. But what interests me now is who arbitrates and what precise criteria determine when the changeover happens and how do people get to know that their fond abbreviation has been usurped? After all the favourite British and American way with elections is to operate this first past the post system require a formal count and a declaration and an election on a particular legally prescribed day. You don't describe how this works with your system. Then I started to think about how this might operate under a system of proportional representation but gave up ... Perhaps the matter should be controlled by a pronouncement by some supreme authority - and I guess you'd be sitting down when you made it. the USS findings when searching official IBM documentation very clearly supports my position rather than yours so you must have a distorted view of what constitutes official IBM documentation. Again, do me the courtesy of reading my other posts on the subject. In fact it doesn't matter if this is correct or incorrect. You offer no evidence for this statement with which I profoundly disagree. You may care again to review my recent post within the thread where I quote Steve Thompson in support of why it *does* matter. Perhaps you do wish to promote anarchy after all. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules) Greg Shirey wrote: And then, when they point you to a PTF that will fix your problem, it will probably have a comment in it like this one: PROBLEM DESCRIPTION(S): OA12191 - * USERS AFFECTED: Users of Unix System Services (USS) * * and Hierarchical File System (HFS). * In fact 'USS messages on the IBM-MAIN list are about: 1. official acronym war. 2. Unix System Services, aka z/OS UNIX Services 3. VTAM Unformated System Services (afaik). In fact I can't remember any question type 3. Usually questions type 2. raise new 'USS war' and flood of messages type 1. I didn't do any statistics, but I believe in the last 4-5 years number of type 3. questions was significantly less than type 2. And type 1. of course is much greater than type 2. + type 3. g The PTF above, the USS findings when searching official IBM documentation, the posts on IBM-MAIN clearly show that people use USS when think of Unix System Services. In fact it doesn't matter if this is correct or incorrect. Although the 'correctness' is main thread in the 'USS war' - some people claim the acronym should be 'official' and 'approved' by IBM or maybe other 'acronym authority'. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Greg I see this is not the first time you have directed my attention to this misuse of USS by the folk responsible for writing up APARs and PTFs. There are official and unofficial documents. What you find on the online bookshelves and - I'm going to issue a challenge here - announcement letters is, to my mind, official. What you find anywhere else is unofficial where nobody has bothered with what is official and with what might be ambiguous. This includes APAR/PTF text and red-whatevers - since others have appealed to redbooks for authority.[1] Note what I quoted from Steve Thompson in my recent reply to Mark Zelden. [1] Actually the ITSO (redbook) locations have/had editors who really should be checking for official abbreviations and ambiguities. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules) And then, when they point you to a PTF that will fix your problem, it will probably have a comment in it like this one: PROBLEM DESCRIPTION(S): OA12191 - * USERS AFFECTED: Users of Unix System Services (USS) * * and Hierarchical File System (HFS). * Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:25 AM Most of us open PMRs via IBMLINK - when it is actually up. :-) You select the component when you open the PMR. I wouldn't expect a z/OS Unix ticket to get routed to VTAM just be cause I used the USS abbreviation any more than I would expect a ticket opened with catalog about the CSI get somehow get routed to SMP/E support. Even if you open a PMR over the phone, they still ask you which component. It only goes to a general queue when you don't know. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:50:10 +0100, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I don't think unix in any flavour is the answer for those that want turnkey appliances. Businesses do buy turnkey appliances in Unix. And one particular flavor of Unix (OS-X) has quite a few applications that are very popular with hobbyists. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me... Re VAX vs. IBM: I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the installed base of the VAX machines. Never. Re RISC vs. 68K: Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They just need to check the dates. Intel killed the 68K. Motorola allied with IBM on RISC only after Intel had destroyed Motorola's market for the 68K. ...phsiii (trying to enrich the discussion, not be a -disturber) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Using the SPINLOG option for the JESMSGLG
Has anyone used the JESLOG option to SPIN off the JESMSGLG ? Example: //DB2UMSTR JOB ,DBA,MSGCLASS=N,JESLOG=(SPIN,'06:00'), // MSGLEVEL=1 Just wondering if there are any thing to look out for. Regards, Allen Thennes IT- Production Support Walgreen Co. (847) 788-4648 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Testing System Programmer Capabilities
HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
Phil Smith III wrote: More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me... Re VAX vs. IBM: I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the installed base of the VAX machines. Never. Re RISC vs. 68K: Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They just need to check the dates. Intel killed the 68K. Motorola allied with IBM on RISC only after Intel had destroyed Motorola's market for the 68K. Not to disagree, just to complement: Market consolidation is a process which can be observed in many businesses, IT (or HW/SW platform) is one of them. Similar processes take place when we analyze database market, graphic card chips, hard disk - as well as - car industry, retail marketing and many more others. So, it is not only 'XX technology killed YY technology'. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Need Beta Testers for DAF 1.4.8
Greetings, I am looking for a few beta testers for DAF 1.4.8. Contact me directly (outside of this list) and I will e-mail you the code sometime this week. Here is what is new in the 1.4.8 level of DAF: Add Counts to DAF512I Add Customization Variable G21PR Add Customization Variable G21PW Add Customization Variable G21TR Add Customization Variable G21TRB Add Customization Variable G21TRF Add Customization Variable G21TW Add Customization Variable G21TWF Add Customization Variable RT_ESV Add Customization Variable RT_VSAMCAT Add Customization Variable RT_VSR Add keyword DEVADDR Add keyword DEVTYPE Add DAFSMF Large Block Interface (LBI) support Add EXEC PARM=SORTDT DAFOUT is in Date/Time order DAFRPT is not populated Add SMF Record Type 21 support Add SMF Record Type 90 Subtype 01 support Add SMF Record Type 90 Subtype 02 support Add SMF Record Type 90 Subtype 08 support Add SMF Record Type 92 Subtype 11 support Add Virtual SMF Records 001 001 - Virtual APFLST 001 002 - Virtual LNKLST 001 003 - Virtual LOADPARM 001 004 - Virtual LPALST 001 005 - Virtual Master Catalog 001 006 - Virtual PAGE 001 007 - Virtual PARMLIB 001 008 - Virtual RACF 001 009 - Virtual UADS Change DAFSMF QSAM to BUFNO=200 Change DAFSMF VSAM to BUFND=200 RMODE31=BUFF Correct DAF014/15 Correct DASD/TAPE Correct DAF014/15 Process PDSE Statistics Type Correct DAF045 JESx Completion Codes Correct DAF064 No Extent Information Correct DAF080 Jobname UNKNOWN when hex zeroes Correct DAF081 Process All Datasets Correct DAF082 S021 Multiple Errors Correct DAF088 S001 Missing Lengths Correct DAF118 Check FTP Command Validity Correct DAF8XR Display PERMIT ACCESS and ID Correct DAFCSP Test For Comments Correct DAFTERM Abend S0C3 Correct NFTP S034 Skip If Nothing To Process Enhance numerous SMF Record Types Reformat numerous messages Cheers... Michael Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:28 +0200, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: They violated some of the most important design rules to make themselves a monopolist. Possibly. But as the line goes: Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence. Now those violations come back and bite. Yep.They are already biting for different reasons, one being the difficulty in making Windows a secure system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Fwd: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem
Forwarding to the list Regards, Nags -- Forwarded message -- From: zosbloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 25, 5:33 pm Subject: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem To: bit.listserv.ibm-main Hi Mark, I added SCEERUN2 to STEPLIB variable and I was able to compile and execute successfully. But, I must ask. How did you know to add SCEERUN2 to add to STEPLIB ? Regards, Nags. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/22/ibm_destination_z/ IBM launches MySpace for mainframes IBM aims to leverage social networking by building an online meeting place for users of its System z mainframes. It says the Web-based portal, called Destination z, gives customers a place to discuss and debate mainframe usage, exchange ideas and seek technical advice. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MSYS
Joe If you want a log of VTAM messages for archive purposes, why not write a simple program which extracts all IST messages from the log into your exclusively VTAM logging file? I took the trouble actually - again surely - to read up on the VTAM PPOLOG start option. I hadn't really noticed sufficiently to remember it before that the author of the PPOLOG description simply assumes that any program worth its salt as a Primary Program Operator (PPO) would, of course, maintain a log of its activity. This is actually rather presumptuous but nevertheless seems to have advised the construction of the name of the start option. I sort-of detect a concern about possibly losing VTAM messages here - without being able to put my finger on it - as well as redirecting them. You might like to be clearer about what exactly you want. If you want something a little more like the function NetView supplies for VTAM commands, solicited messages and unsolicited messages but without the accretions - and cost - of today's NetView, I would *like* to propose NOSP, Network Operations Support Program. The following is taken from the IBM Systems Journal, Volume 18, Number 4, 1979.[1] The article is entitled An integrated approach to centralized communications network management and the section is Network operation - an historical look. The author is R.A. Weingarten then located in the IBM labs at Kingston, the then home of VTAM and some related products. quote During 1974, a new access method called the Virtual Telecommunications Access Method (VTAM) was introduced by IBM. This access method provided SNA support that included communications network management capabilities defined in the System Services Control Point. VTAM had its own operator control functions that allowed commands to be issued and received via the system operator console. The sharing of the system operator console for VTAM and operating system commands and messages could create operational problems in systems with a large number of attached terminals. To alleviate this problem and separate network operations from systems operation, an interface called the programmed operator interface was made available in VTAM in 1975. The programmed operator interface allows an application program to issue VTAM operator control commands and receive VTAM operator control responses and all unsolicited operator control notification messages. The first IBM program product that utilized this new interface was the Network Operations Support Program (NOSP) introduced with the announcement of the Advanced Communications Function for multisystem networking of VTAM in 1976. NOSP allowed a designated operator to issue and receive operator messages, both solicited and unsolicited, from a VTAM system. In a multisystem network environment, an NOSP could communicate with other NOSPs to control the network from either a single central terminal or multiple distributed terminals. This function was similar to the function provided by the Telecommunications Control System of TCAM, with the exception that NOSP was developed for use in the SNA networking environment. NOSP was also limited in that it could execute in a VTAM-only network. To satisfy the requirement for centralized operator Control of multisystem networks with the coexistence of TCAM and VTAM in an SNA environment, NCCF was announced in November 1978. It was an outgrowth of NOSP with extensions for operator control for the TCAM environment and communications network management functions for both TCAM and VTAM. /quote Incidentally, I had no idea that NCCF was created to replace NOSP solely in order to include support for TCAM! I first started work with NCCF using release 2 which I guess must have been the release that introduced Clists. Anyhow, I expect you can't get NOSP any more. And, in case, you didn't know already, today's NetView is a direct descendant from NOSP - and I've witnessed most of the barnacles attaching themselves to the product as it has been weighed down - sorry - grown! Apparently customers liked everything to be thrown together in the menu rather than offered a la carte ... ... and all the skill and ingenuity I invested in being able to explain how to integrate add-on products like NPDA, NLDM etc. into the NCCF environment was dissipated by this humongous NetView! As I said, it's not quite clear what you want but, if you have any assembler skills, you may want to check over the VTAM API which supports these VTAM commands and messages. It is quite simple. I was told - I think - that, despite the veneer of supposed planning that the article espouses, NOSP grew from a program written by a VTAM developer in order simply to exercise this API. As I said, the API is quite simple and, in the days of pre-program product VTAM, had a little manual all to itself. Now that manual is carried in Appendix L of the Communications Server SNA
RMM Housekeeping( EDGHSKP) get EDG2303E and S913
Dear all We just setup RMM. We want to run Houseekeeping( EDGHSKP) ,We get the following messages: 15.21.33 JOB07163 IEF403I SJSMHSKP - STARTED - TIME=15.21.33 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG2303E DFSMSrmm INVENTORY MANAGEMENT TASK ABEND S913 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG6303E SEVERE ERROR PROCESSING DFSMSrmm SUBSYSTEM REQUEST 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG6901I UTILITY EDGHSKP COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 12 The JCL is the followings: //HSKP EXEC PGM=EDGHSKP, // PARM='RPTEXT,DATEFORM(J)' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DSSOPTDD * CONCURRENT OPTIMIZE(1) VALIDATE //* //BACKUPDD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.BACKUP(+1),DISP=(,CATLG), // UNIT=SYSALLDA,AVGREC=U,SPACE=(4096,(3,40)), // DCB=(LRECL=9000,BLKSIZE=23476,RECFM=VB) //JRNLBKUP DD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.JRNLBKUP(+1),DISP=(,CATLG), // UNIT=SYSALLDA,AVGREC=U,SPACE=(4096,(2,5)), // DCB=(LRECL=9000,BLKSIZE=23476,RECFM=VB) //MESSAGE DD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.MESSAGE(00),DISP=SHR //REPORTDD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.REPORT(00),DISP=SHR //ACTIVITY DD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.ACTIVITY(00),DISP=SHR //XREPTEXT DD DSN=RMMP1.HSKP.PLEXP1.XREPTEXT(00),DISP=SHR My questions: Q1: Is S913 a Security Abend? Q2: If it is a security abend,where could we find any RACF message? Q3:Why isn't there reason code of S913 for this JOB? Any suggestion and comment are great appreciated! Jason Cai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: how to list LE options
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Gould On Jun 22, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: == Ed Gould == wrote2007-06-21 21:58: On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: --SNIP-- The consultants howled as they could no longer assemble programs (no access to sys1.maclib) ??? Our official language was COBOL nothing else was permitted into production. The consultants had a habit of doing the other work on our system, those contained assembler. Ed Still don't understand why they wasn't allowed to assemble their programs. Were they doing private programming or what ? Thomas Berg ---SNIP The standard company wide language was COBOL. None of the programmers knew assembler. As I explained in a previous post none of the programmers could debug assembler code. The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. The two steps we made to stop the process was taking away access to sys1.maclib and also not allowing assembler to be invoked. Oh Sort of like, None of the folks knew how to use a lawn mower, so they banned lawns. Must have been a gummint shop. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM Housekeeping( EDGHSKP) get EDG2303E and S913
mvsmain wrote: Dear all We just setup RMM. We want to run Houseekeeping( EDGHSKP) ,We get the following messages: 15.21.33 JOB07163 IEF403I SJSMHSKP - STARTED - TIME=15.21.33 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG2303E DFSMSrmm INVENTORY MANAGEMENT TASK ABEND S913 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG6303E SEVERE ERROR PROCESSING DFSMSrmm SUBSYSTEM REQUEST 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG6901I UTILITY EDGHSKP COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 12 [...] My questions: Q1: Is S913 a Security Abend? Usually yes. Q2: If it is a security abend,where could we find any RACF message? Syslog, SMF record 80 Q3:Why isn't there reason code of S913 for this JOB? See below. Any suggestion and comment are great appreciated! My suggestion: Check syslog for ICH408I. Or check RMM stc, not the housekeeping job. The trick is RMM STC writes to the datasets, not the housekeeping job. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl S d Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S dowego, nr rejestru przedsi biorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wed ug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zak adowy BRE Banku SA (w ca o ci op acony) wynosi 118.064.140 z . W zwi zku z realizacj warunkowego podwy szenia kapita u zak adowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zak adowy BRE Banku SA mo e ulec podwy szeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z . Akcje w podwy szonym kapitale zak adowym b d w ca o ci op acone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVC vs APF and other 'privileged' code
R.S. wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: ---snip- From time to time I read on the list about companies which demand ISVs to provide source code for SVC routines to analyze it from security point of view. While I don't know to much about z/OS 'guts', I'm wondering what is the reason for that? Or rather, why the SVC code is so important, while APF-authorized libraries are not subject to analyze. The same apply to propgrams in SCHEDxx members. AFAIK (I could be wrong) APF-authorized program can bypass security rules, so it can be dangeours. Is SVC more dangerous ? Last, but not least - neither SVC, nor 'regular' APF-authorized program can do anything illegal when not instructed, so unless ISV folks unlimited access to prod system it is like dangerous knife in my safe. Other possibility is that backdoor entry is disclosed by ISV to our sysprogs. In fact it owuld be a confession to security hole. -unsnip-- My last shop processed enough money in a week to pay the U. S. National Debt, and NONE of that money was ours. We had to be like Caesar's wife, Calpurnia. That is, not only be pure, but perceived to be pure by all who beheld us. Security was held to be far more important than performance by The Powers That Be. IMHO it is completely irrelevant. Almost every z/OS installation process 'non-ours' money, usually much more than sysprog's salary. what a pity! So, all shops care about security, more or less. Caution: I don't criticise SVC examination itself. I don't want to say it os good or it is bad. I just want to learn. My doubt is why SVC are so suspected while APF-authorized programs are not. It's common knowledge that sysprog+APF means bypass all security rules - isn't it ? -unsnip--- Roland, you're quite correct in one respect; APF pgms and SVC's can ALL be very dangerous. But most shops aren't quite as intimately involved in the banking industry and are thus not subject to quite the same levels of Federal oversite. Automated links to the Federal banking system are scrutinized to a degree that some folks would find incredible, and surprise audits by Federal agencies are an unfortunate fact of life. I was even subject to personal audits, just because of the nature of my position as a highly trusted employee. And personal bonding isn't just optional; it's REQUIRED; hence the comment about Caesar's wife. How many manufacturing organizations have the same levels of scrutiny? General Motors doesn't. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:08:24 +1000, Nagesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I added the STEPLIB variable to point to SCEERUN2 and the compilation went ok. (See below). I must ask this. How did you know that the SCEERUN2 PDS was required in STEPLIB ? SCEERUN2 was needed for XPLINK support. I already new that and added it our systems when we migrated to z/OS 1.6. The other answer to how I knew is: the same way I know a lot of what I know - battle scars. :-) A couple of months ago one of our business units requested Java for the first time on their LPAR. After discussion it was decided to go with 1.5. Turned out that was the only LPAR in the environment that SCEERUN2 was not added to when we migrated to z/OS 1.6. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Testing System Programmer Capabilities
HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IB
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:22:51 -0400, Walter Bushell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But turkeys survive quite nicely in the wild. Not chickens. Among other things both have been breed for stupidity. I think there are still wild turkeys, and ancestors of our modern chickens in the wild. Tom turkeys have also been bred to be so large that domestic turkeys probably couldn't procreate in the wild. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrade went mostly well :(
Our Z9 BC arrived with the wrong serial number as well. We pulled it out and returned it for the correct one. Cutover went smooth as silk once the correct machine was installed. Neil M. Douglas El Dorado County Information Technologies Information Tech Analyst II 360 Fair Lane - Bldg B Placerville, CA 95667 Phone - (530) 621-5418 Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 06/23/2007 02:44 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Upgrade went mostly well :( The hardware swap was real clean. CPU shipped was different serial number than we were expecting, so most ISV keys didn't work. EJES and Syncsort and SAS and VPS and Control-D just complain. Gat a 10 day universal key from CA. Still waiting on Netpass from Israel. My biggest problem is that SSL for TB3279o and FTP using ICSF certificates isn't working. The procedure in the FM for migrating gives me 'OPTION NOT AVAILABLE' After I get some more food, I'll go back in and look further. I have a PMR open, but I need to escalate to sev1 to get an answer before 8am Monday. The serial number glitch appears to be because of delays getting the capacity on demand features included. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program? Kenneth, No, I haven't seen any acceptable workarounds. The main requirement is to allow data to flow from JCL variables into programs, without a 100 character limit. Yes, I would be willing to follow unsupported control blocks to get the information, if that is what it took. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies Are you will to use a SUBSYS= and possible create a subsystem? If so, then you could possible do something with that. As as example, suppose you create a PARM subsystem. Then, in JCL, you could do something like: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=MYPROG,PARM='DD1,DD2,DD3' //DD1 DD SUBSYS=(PARM,'VAR1=VALUE1,VAR2=VALUE2') //DD2 DD SUBSYS=(PARM,'VAR3=VALUE3,VAR4=VALUE4') //DD3 DD SUBSYS=(PARM,'VAR5=VALUE5') // There is example code at http://www.cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm file 290 GPSAM. The subsystem would be designed to give the data when the DD is opened and read. Another possibility that just occurred to me is to do something like: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=MYPROG,PARM='DD1' //DD1 DD PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..VAR1=VALUE1,X=VALUE2', // PATHDISP=(DELETE,DELETE), // PATHMODE=(SIRWXU), // PATHOPTS=(ORDWR,OCREAT,OEXCL) // You can then retrieve the PATH specification via SVC 99. The PATH name has a maximum length of 254 characters. But you can pass multiple DD names to the program via the PARM= on the EXEC and then retrieve the information that way. This method does create the file in the UNIX filesystem, but doesn't really take any space (unless you write to the files for some reason). The only possible error could occur if one RACF id (SYSUID) has the step running in multiple jobs at the same time. The second job will fail with a JCL error due to the OEXCL. I don't really know what would happen if you didn't include the OEXCL parameter. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Chris Mason wrote: Radoslav [...] Incidentally - only because I spell-check my posts - I may as well improve your knowledge by pointing out that it's Unformatted with two ts. [...] I'm Radoslaw (Radosław in fact) and I don't use spell checker for my e-mails. 'unformated' was a typo, I'm aware of double 't', alhtough my English is poor. 3. VTAM Unformated System Services (afaik). Regrettably your knowledge - afaik - doesn't appear to extend sufficiently far. There is no problem with *VTAM* - aka the *SNA* component of Communications Server (CS) - USS but there is a possible ambiguity when the possible use of USS with the *IP* component of CS. See 2.9.4, Telnet USS table setup, in z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference Version 1 Release 8, SC31-8776-10, a manual with which I would have expected you to be familiar. Fine. You know *ONE* example, when USS means 'VTAM USS' and it can be confused with 'Unix USS'. I know much more examples, when use USS as 'Unix USS' with no ambiguity, that means, everybody who understand technical documentation, also understand what USS stands for. (and yes, I saw your stats about Unix and USS, but my conclusion is contrary to yours: USS *is used as Unix System Services* in IBM doco). Please do me the courtesy of reading my posts before pontificating. If you memory needs refreshing, please read through my very recent posts on this topic. I'll say it again for your benefit fort the umpteenth time, I challenged the *belief*, not the *usage*. I read all the posts, including yours. A lot of text. Actually I have other duties as well, so I did not pay to much attention to each of them. Now I'm trying to guess your point, but I cannot. I don't understand. In fact, even in the post I respond to you mentioned a lot of things, including anarchy, democracy and elections. I must be dumb, because I still don't see any reason to avoid some acronyms. Just as example: ETR means Electronic Technical Response and External Time Reference. Both are allowed by acronyms puritans. Sometimes it makes confusion. Why USS cannot be used as Unix System Services, since English language rules don't say acronym cannot be ambigous, and have to be approved by IBM. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2007 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości opłacony) wynosi 118.064.140 zł. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwał XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
One of the more interesting PCs was the very expensive Heathkit that came as a kit. I wonder what the marked was for it. My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such advancements as lower case letters! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes: Re VAX vs. IBM: I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the installed base of the VAX machines. Never. approach the size of the install base in number of customers or number of machines or competitive marketing approaching the customers that bought vaxes? past post giving decade of vax install numbers sliced and diced by model, yr, domestic, non-domestic, etc: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#0 Computers in Science Fiction both 43xx and vaxes saw huge uptake in the early 80s with the growth of the department market ... which was starting to move into workstations and PCs by the mid-80s. as above, the big volumes for VAXes in the mid-80s were from micro-vax ... not traditional 780 machines. lots of vaxes were customer orders for one or a very few. vaxes had an advantage here since their installation and support required a lot less effort (something that 43xx was constantly fighting ... there were even some SHARE reports highlighting the resource requirement differences in competitive environment). however, there were some number of large customers that ordered 43xx boxes large lots (hundreds, even large hundreds). the resource support requirement competitive advantage (in small shops) was mitigated when amortized across a large number of boxes. old email about specific customer ordering in hundreds (customer initially thot 20, but order was finally for 210): http://www.garlic.com/2001m.html#email790404 in this post also discussing other departmental computing issues from the period http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#15 departmental server lots of old email discussing various aspects of 43xx ... use for clustering and/or distributed, departmental computing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HR policy
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:28:20 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :snip :It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence :at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common :use. From the other hand I know companies in Poland where people work :for two reasons: : :a) to get some experience, take some classes and go away with better CV. :b) because they don't want to learn, they don't want to work to hard, :usually they rather stupid than dumb. : :Since I part of my job is teaching on mainframe courses, I often meet :them (only mainframe staff in fact) and observe their careers. Sometimes :one can distinguish a and b -types during first lab. :-unsnip-- :There are also companys that will give you all the education you ask :for, because the rest of the compensation package is so shamefully poor. :A catalog-shopping firm I know of comes to mind. It was common knowledge :that you went here, picked their pockets for all the education you could :get in 2-3 years, then went to a real shop. The compensation package :for employees included only very minimal health insurance, with no :provision for dependants, below-average salaries, very rigid work hours, :minimal vacation time, all that kind of stuff. CAn I say Two sides to :every coin?? Did it have a five letter name, beginning and ending with s? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
At 02:34 AM 6/25/2007 -0500, you wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/22/ibm_destination_z/ IBM launches MySpace for mainframes IBM aims to leverage social networking by building an online meeting place for users of its System z mainframes. It says the Web-based portal, called Destination z, gives customers a place to discuss and debate mainframe usage, exchange ideas and seek technical advice. I especially liked the quote: A cynic might wonder if http://www.ibm.com/systems/destinationzDestination z is mostly an attempt to off-load the business of support onto other customers. However, it is often true that - if the social side is done right - the best help comes from fellow users who've been through the same problems. Or, there's nothing that can beat SHAREing. Michael Stack Product Developer NEON Enterprise Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVC vs APF and other 'privileged' code
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:13:13 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: My understanding of 'SVC risk' vs 'APF risk' - both can do dangerous things. - SVC can be invoked by non-authorized program and then could provide 'wide-open' security hole. Open to everyone who know how to invoke it. No additional privilege is checked. - APF code invoked directly (PGM=apfmodule) could do anything, but the 'anything' have to be coded inside the program. - APF programs, when do something considered as security bypass (i.e. DSS DUMP ADMIN) usually check for authority of the caller i.e. STGADMIN.ADR.STGADMIN.DUMP.xxx I think the SVC risk is perceived as high because there are many evil ISV SVCs whose main or only purpose in life is to return control in an authorized state to an unauthorized caller. Exploiting these is just a matter of figuring out the protocol; the function is *intended* to give back control authorized. It is not a matter of a bug in the routine (except in the sense that the whole design can be called a bug). Maliciously exploiting an APF authorized program requires that there be a bug (one hopes that almost all AC(1) modules are coded correctly), that the bug be drivable by the malicious user (many holes are timing related or otherwise depend on circumstances that are very difficult to set up), and that the malicious user have access to the program in the first place, both for analysis and execution. By the way, I don't entirely agree with your comment: - APF code invoked directly (PGM=apfmodule) could do anything, but the 'anything' have to be coded inside the program. It is possible to exploit a buffer overflow in an authorized program to run arbitrary code. Trivial contrived example of a BAD authorized program: housekeeping L R1,0(,R1) - Parm string LH R2,0(,R1) Get parm length EX R2,MOVEPARMS Copy without checking length :-( MOVEPARMS MVC PARMS(*-*),2(R1) CLC PARMS,=C'OPTION99' BE OPT99 B DEFAULT PARMS DS CL8 Our parms are all = 8, so why waste space? OPT99 DS 0H do mainline processing - can be overlayed by malicious code etc. So if you pass in a carefully constructed parm string you may be able to execute it and have the program do what you like. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes: Re RISC vs. 68K: Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They just need to check the dates. Intel killed the 68K. Motorola allied with IBM on RISC only after Intel had destroyed Motorola's market for the 68K. 801 was originally targeted (very) low-end ... ROMP chip was targeted to be used in a displaywriter follow-in ... when that project was killed, the group looked around for something to save the effort ... and hit on the unix workstation market (with the displaywriter follow-on morphing into unix workstation). lots of unix workstation market place is very numerical and power hungry ... somewhat as a result ... the followon to ROMP for that market was large, power-hungry RIOS chipset (i.e. POWER, announced in RS/6000). Paperweight on my desk (from original) has six chips, and says 150 million OPS, 60 million FLOPS, and 7 million transistors. somerset was combined ibm, motorola, apple project to do a single chip, 801 PC-level implementation ... the executive we reported to when we were doing ha/cmp http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp went over to head up somerset. part of somerset including infusing power/pc with some of motorola's 88k (risc) technology. ROMP and RIOS were single processer implementations with no provision for multi-processor cache consistency. power/pc was going to be able to support cache consistency and multiprocessor operation. lots of past 801 posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801 68k was still hanging in there in 89/90 time-frame ... a couple posts with some old references from the period (raw chip volumes, business analysis, etc) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#35 Intel strickes back with a parallel x86 design http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#44 Intel strickes back with a parallel x86 design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: how to list LE options
The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. The two steps we made to stop the process was taking away access to sys1.maclib and also not allowing assembler to be invoked. You let them off easy! I would have dismissed them, right away. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Chris, Thanks for acknowledging and supporting my point. Discussions on this list are certainly not official IBM communications. I believe, therefore, we should be as free to use USS as an abbreviation for Unix Systems Services as the folks who write IBM's APARs. Freer, in fact. I also believe that trying to encourage people to adhere to an IBM standard when IBM doesn't just seems pointless. But it's not my dog, so to speak. My last post on this subject. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:11 AM Greg I see this is not the first time you have directed my attention to this misuse of USS by the folk responsible for writing up APARs and PTFs. There are official and unofficial documents. What you find on the online bookshelves and - I'm going to issue a challenge here - announcement letters is, to my mind, official. What you find anywhere else is unofficial where nobody has bothered with what is official and with what might be ambiguous. This includes APAR/PTF text and red-whatevers - since others have appealed to redbooks for authority.[1] Note what I quoted from Steve Thompson in my recent reply to Mark Zelden. [1] Actually the ITSO (redbook) locations have/had editors who really should be checking for official abbreviations and ambiguities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Chris Mason wrote: [ lots of stuff ] [ snip ] I read all the posts, including yours. A lot of text. Actually I have other duties as well, so I did not pay to much attention to each of them. Now I'm trying to guess your point, but I cannot. I don't understand. In fact, even in the post I respond to you mentioned a lot of things, including anarchy, democracy and elections. I must be dumb, because I still don't see any reason to avoid some acronyms. Just as example: ETR means Electronic Technical Response and External Time Reference. Both are allowed by acronyms puritans. Sometimes it makes confusion. Why USS cannot be used as Unix System Services, since English language rules don't say acronym cannot be ambigous, and have to be approved by IBM. You are attempting to inject logic and reason into what is essentially a religious argument. You are inevitably doomed to fail... -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it is often true that - if the social side is done right - the best help comes from fellow users who've been through the same problems. And often the fastest. There's no bureaucracy involved. Of course, there is also usually no warranty on the help given. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Operating systems are old and busted
snip Leopard and Vista: Last Gasp of the Big OS? http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/133276 from above: Twenty years from now a new generation of computer users will look back on the operating systems of today with the same bemused smile we look back at the cars of the late 1950s and early 60s. They had huge fins, were the size of a small yacht and burned up just about as much gas. /snip Those who can do, Those who can't become reporter's -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
I'm going to do this to inject a little levity (I hope)... Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Incidentally - only because I spell-check my posts - I may as well improve your knowledge by pointing out that it's Unformatted with two ts. Please do me the courtesy of reading my posts before pontificating. If you memory needs refreshing, please read through my very recent posts on this topic. I'll say it again for your benefit fort the umpteenth time, I challenged the *belief*, not the *usage*. Can we all agree that this is spelled 'IRONY'? ;-) . (snip) Perhaps you do wish to promote anarchy after all. Spoken like a true dinosaur!! Regards, Dean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: how to list LE options
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. ... You let them off easy! I would have dismissed them, right away. Along with giving them some free room and board at the local Crossbar Hotel. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, there's nothing that can beat SHAREing. Kind of ironic they 'discovered' what IBM-Main's been doing for 21 years! Maybe there's hope for occurectilitus... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature
The planned General Availability for CICS Transaction Server V3.2 is June 29, 2007. CICS Transaction Server V3.2 was announced on March 27, 2007: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS207-051/ENUS207051.PDF In this announcement, IBM warned that orders will not be accepted for the CICS TS 3.1 Service Flow Feature upon GA of CICS TS V3.2. However, the CICS TS V3.2 Service Flow Feature will not be generally available until sometime in the second half of 2007. The Service Flow Feature is a no charge component, and I would recommend that, if you have not done so already, and if you have CICS TS V3.1, you place an order immediately for SFF. The CICS Service Flow Feature is described in greater detail here: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS205-303/ENUS205-303.PDF and in the above announcement. Your CICS TS V3.1 Service Flow Feature order will also include WebSphere Developer for System z V7.0. The terms of your CICS TS 3.1 license permit use of one user copy of WDz for any purpose plus 10 user copies of WDz for the proscribed list of tasks, including the Service Flow Modeler (to produce SFF binaries) and CICS Web services. If you have already ordered the no charge Service Flow Feature for CICS TS 3.1, but you do not have WDz V7.0 or the latest SFF runtime, please request PTF UQ20322 for APAR PK32131. Please be aware that, when available, CICS TS V3.2's Service Flow Feature will not be able to run V3.1 SFF binaries as-is. However, compatibility will be preserved at the tooling (modeler) level, so you will simply regenerate your SFF binaries for the new version. IBM's goal is to preserve binary compatibility, but this was not technically possible in this particular case. Make sure you document this requirement and plan accordingly for your upgrade to CICS TS V3.2. (Shouldn't be a big deal, but just be aware.) Please get your no charge Service Flow Feature order in now, before it is too late. The program number is 5655-M15, and the feature number is 9001. The orderable supply ID is S0129LW. Please order via Customized Offerings (CBPDO, ServerPac, SystemPac) in your choice of media type or as electronic delivery (ShopzSeries) if available in your country. Here's a brief excerpt from the Service Flow Feature announcement letter: CICS Service Flow Feature [...] enables CICS application interfaces to be composed to form CICS business services that expose high-level business function interfaces. The CICS business service captures the transition between many different application logic components in terms of a flow. The resulting business service performs a high level purpose (for example, order fulfilment or bill payment), that is meaningful to an external system as a reusable service. I should add that this is without coding. It uses a graphical modeler (in WDz) to wire CICS transactions, then produces a binary which runs in CICS (in the Service Flow Runtime). There is also the option to drive 3270 interfaces as part of the flow. You don't have to have clean COMMAREA or container access to every CICS program to get the job done. You can download and view some recorded videos of the Service Flow Modeler here: http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_wsed_sfm_recorded.html It's a very powerful tool, priced at zero, and, again, I urge everyone with CICS TS V3.1 to order it, at least to obtain the marketing promotion copy of WDz V7.0. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:14:15 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such advancements as lower case letters! Oh, my second floppy driver for the Atari was a Z-80 powered drive with 64K of RAM. Besides working quite well, I was able to boot up CP/M with it using my Atari 800 as a terminal. I'm thinking of some future where it won't be unusual to buy a Cray-equivalent chip to monitor water temperature in your shower... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HR policy
---snip-- :snip :It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence :at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common :use. From the other hand I know companies in Poland where people work :for two reasons: : :a) to get some experience, take some classes and go away with better CV. :b) because they don't want to learn, they don't want to work to hard, :usually they rather stupid than dumb. : :Since I part of my job is teaching on mainframe courses, I often meet :them (only mainframe staff in fact) and observe their careers. Sometimes :one can distinguish a and b -types during first lab. :-unsnip-- :There are also companys that will give you all the education you ask :for, because the rest of the compensation package is so shamefully poor. :A catalog-shopping firm I know of comes to mind. It was common knowledge :that you went here, picked their pockets for all the education you could :get in 2-3 years, then went to a real shop. The compensation package :for employees included only very minimal health insurance, with no :provision for dependants, below-average salaries, very rigid work hours, :minimal vacation time, all that kind of stuff. CAn I say Two sides to :every coin?? Did it have a five letter name, beginning and ending with s? -unsnip--- Nope. Started with S and ended with L -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature
-Original Message- Can someone tell me how to just order the service flow feature without reordering all of cics. I selected customized products and tried to just select the service flow feature, but it would not accept it without the 'mandatory requisite' of cics ts 3.1. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrade went mostly well :(
It seems that Crypto Express2 needs to be configured as a co-processor use the PPINIT utility. Because SSL is the majority (all) of our current use, I configured all three as SSL accelerators. I had to re-configure back to co-processor to run the PPINIT utility. So jealous, just wondering why this didn't get covered in the SAPR? I knew I was going to have trouble with the ICSF keys. I was sure I'd asked all the right questions. It was a really nice guy at ICSF Level 2 that told me what was wrong. A few hours and another ipl and all was well :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#18 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM the place that 43xx had the most difficult competition against vax/vms was in the single (at a time) departmental servers (as some of the SHARE studies highlighted). cost of mid-range computers had dropped below a threshold that made them very cost-effective in departmental settings ... however scarce people skills and costs then started to dominate as market inhibitor. 43xx did do very well in large number of departmental server orders (especially with distributed, networked operation) ... where people support skill/costs could be amortized across large number of machines. clusters of 43xx also started to impact 3033. at one point (traditional internal politics), the head of pok, manipulated east fishkill to cut the allocation in half of a critical component needed for 43xx manufacturing. later the same person gave a talk to a large public audience and made some statement that something like 11,000 vax/vms orders should have been 43xx ... also referenced in this old post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#15 departmental servers and old email mentioning various 43xx issues ... including moving workload off 3033 boxes onto 4341 clusters ... and large distributed departmental server operations. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature
-Original Message- i was able to order only the service flow feature by selecting 'productpack' instead of 'servicepack' and then it came up with a 'bypassable requisite' of cics ts 3.1. This shopzseries is really confusing since it is only the 2nd time i ever used it. And why is this product not available for download or on cd-rom instead of having to order a hideous tape? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen -Original Message- Can someone tell me how to just order the service flow feature without reordering all of cics. I selected customized products and tried to just select the service flow feature, but it would not accept it without the 'mandatory requisite' of cics ts 3.1. Just reorder CICSTS31, including the SFF, and throw out what you don't need when it arrives. ISTR having to do the same thing when SOAP for TS23 became a FMID instead of a CICS Support Pac. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, there's nothing that can beat SHAREing. Kind of ironic they 'discovered' what IBM-Main's been doing for 21 years! Maybe there's hope for occurectilitus... Ed, I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. Leave it to IBM to try to create IBMMain. I expect Destinationz to go the way of search390. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3390-27 PERFORMANCE
We are considering use of 3390-27 devices particularly for some large DB2 tablespaces. Does anyone have any experience with performance issues with such devices our know where I can find documentation regarding such issues ? I understand that use of PAVs is a must. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Miya) writes: No, the most difficult competition was and is against the IBM PC. If it did so well, we'd see more evidence of it being around. They are not even museum pieces. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#20 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM you didn't read the zillion previous posts mentioning that mid-range market for both vax/vms and 43xx volumes in departmental server market started to move to workstations and larger PCs in the mid-80s. above reference post ... mentions the previous post in the thread ... which made the same point one more time (and then later the workstations started to also loose out to PCs). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#18 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM for instance, the 4361/4381 which were expecting similar large volume sales as seen for 4331/4341 ... never happened. similar numbers can be seen for vax/vms numbers ... where vax did do some volumes in the mid-80s with micro-vax ... also readily seen in the repeated references to decade of vax/vms numbers, sliced diced by model, yr, domestic, world-wide, etc http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#0 Computers in Science Fiction ... the 4331s/4341s and other mid-market players in the departmental servers had very little PCs to compete with (late 70s and early 80s) ... it wasn't until you get to the followon machines; 4361s/4381s (and later vax) that you start to see the workstation/PC effect in the departmental server market. one of the contributions to the PCs in the departmental server market was a project called DataHub which was being done by the san jose disk division. Part of the software implementation was being done under work-for-hire subcontract by a group in Provo (one of the people from San Jose commuted to Provo nearly every week). At some point, the company decided to kill the DataHub project and allowed the Provo group to retain rights to everything that they had done under the work-for-hire contract. Not too long later, there was a company out of Provo with a PC server offering. misc. past posts mentioning DataHub project: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a John Hartmann's Birthday Party http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#40 No more innovation? Get serious http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#19 When will IBM buy Sun? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#79 Coulda, Woulda, Shoudda moments? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#33 Over-the-shoulder effect http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#26 MP cost effectiveness http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#13 Alpha performance, why? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#16 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#23 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#9 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#36 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#39 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#31 The Elements of Programming Style http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#17 Is computer history taught now? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#49 How difficult would it be for a SYSPROG ? in the mean time, the communication division had seen a huge install base of communication controllers grow based on terminal emulation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation which was started to break away into various kinds of client/server ... they came up with SAA ... somewhat positioned at helping preserve their communication controller market (and countermeasure to client/server). A problem we had in this period was that we were making some number of customer executive presentations on 3-tier (network) architecture ... and taking flames barbs from the SAA factions http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier other recent posts in this same thread: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#42 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#44 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#45 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#48 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#50 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#57 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#63 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would it be easier to do in CICS and DB2 and not MVS? In addition to the powerful TSO user ID, will you have access to Omegamon, TMON, or some other monitor? That would be the way to go for changing some MVS control blocks, even in CICS and DB2 too. Right up to the point of causing an IPL that is. TTFN .Bigrcube -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Felitti Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE We are considering use of 3390-27 devices particularly for some large DB2 tablespaces. Does anyone have any experience with performance issues with such devices our know where I can find documentation regarding such issues ? I understand that use of PAVs is a must. Thanks. OK, I'll bite. Why? A DB2 tablespace is composed of multipe unique VSAM clusters. There should not be any problem that I know of with anything like the 59 volume limit for a multivolume dataset. Or am I wrong on this point? I could well be. Anyway, without PAV your I/O performance will likely be worse due to I/O queuing on the UCB. Without PAV, you can only have one I/O active on a volume at a time. With PAV, a single volume can have multiple I/O addresses and activity on all of them concurrently. Just stating this to be complete. Efficient use of a -27 fairly much demands PAV. The other consideration could be disaster recovery. If you need -27 sized volumes at the disaster site, the provider may charge you extra for that over having the equivalent space on -3 sized volumes. Also, how are you backing up your DB2 data? If you're using DB2 utilities, then I think you wll be OK. But if you are using DFDSS or FDR to do volume level backups, then a -27 will likely take up to 9x as long to back up because of the way that DFDSS (and I think FDR) does its backup. I doubt that many use DFDSS or FDR to do volume backups of DB2, but I don't know. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
Question: how do we know that your organization is not just asking us to provide a way to disrupt mainframe systems? No offense intended, at all; it's just a basic security question. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Finding the last IPL time
Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
I am getting the IDG17272I message when attempting to a primary allocation using IDCAMS of more than one 3390 DASD volume on a flex-es system running z/OS 1.6. I’ve set up data class with the extended attribute. I am able to allocate less than a full volume with no problem. I don’t see where the problem is, but I think it must be something simple. DETAILED ERROR messages: IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:DBCLASS IGD17279I 1 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ONLINE IGD17279I 3 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE IGD17219I UNABLE TO CONTINUE DEFINE OF DATA SET My IDCAMS commands are: DEFINE CLUSTER - (NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT) - DATACLASS(DBCLASS) - STORCLAS(DBCLASS) - KEYS(8 0) - RECORDSIZE(600 2043) - SHAREOPTIONS(2 3) - SPEED) - DATA(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.D) - CYLINDERS(3999 005) - FREESPACE(0 10) - CISZ(4096)) - INDEX(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.I)) DATA(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.D) - CYLINDERS(3999 005) - FREESPACE(0 10) - CISZ(4096)) - INDEX(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.I)) The data class definition: DBCLASS CDS Name . . . : SYS1.SCDS.DATA Data Class Name : DBCLASS Recfm . . . . . . . . . : Lrecl . . . . . . . . . : Space Avgrec . . . . . . : Avg Value . . . . : Primary . . . . . : Secondary . . . . : Directory . . . . : Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . : Volume Count . . . . . . : 3 Add'l Volume Amount . . : Data Set Name Type . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . : REQUIRED Extended Addressability : YES Record Access Bias . . : USER Space Constraint Relief . : NO I have stet up in SMS: DATACLAS TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDDCR ADCDMST 2007/06/25 MGMTCLAS --- -- - STORCLAS TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDSCR ADCDMST 2007/04/23 STORGRP TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDSGR ADCDMST 2007/04/23 11:05 Here is the SMS status: D SMS,STORGRP(DBCLASS),LISTVOL RESPONSE=ADCD IGD002I 09:51:34 DISPLAY SMS 956 STORGRP TYPESYSTEM= 1 DBCLASS POOL+ VOLUME UNITSYSTEM= 1 STORGRP NAM OS3P8A + DBCLASS SMSACA 0ACA+ DBCLASS SMSADA 0ADA+ DBCLASS SMSAD8 0AD8+ DBCLASS * LEGEND * . THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS NOT DEFINED TO THE SYSTEM + THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS ENABLED - THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS DISABLED * THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS QUIESCED D THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS DISABLED FOR NEW ALLOCATIONS ONLY Q THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS QUIESCED FOR NEW ALLOCATIONS ONLY Abend Message in jobstream: 09.37.21 JOB08215 IGD17272I VOLUME SELECTION HAS FAILED FOR INSUFFICIENT SPACE F 943 DATA SET SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT 943 JOBNAME (SDBDEF2 ) STEPNAME (SDBDEF ) 943 PROGNAME (IDCAMS ) DDNAME (N/A ) 943 REQUESTED SPACE QUANTITY = 3059211 KB 943 STORCLAS (DBCLASS) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (DBCLASS) 943 STORGRPS (DBCLASS ) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
SMCAITME and SMCAIDTE in the SMCA (IEESMCA is the mapping macro - SYS1.MACLIB) SMCA pointed to by CVTSMCA Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: 25 June 2007 19:45 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Finding the last IPL time Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
Mark Zelden has a rexx routine called IPLINFO that provides this as well. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Finding the last IPL time Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html === This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Finding the last IPL time Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Don't know the field names, but Mark Zelden's Rexx exec IPLINFO knows how to find it (date and time). See his subroutine IPL: for details. HTH Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:41:12 -0400, Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. There was a post or two or twenty discussing this in just the last month or so. Here's a couple IBM links I noted from those posts: http://www- 304.ibm.com/jct09002c/university/scholars/products/zseries/index.html http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zoslnctr/v1r7/index.jsp (Mind the wrap) You might search the archives to see what else came up. As I recall, it took off on a tangent, but I picked up some useful information along the way. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
Dave Cole wrote on 2007-06-25 14:45:28: Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Check out IHAIPA in MACLIB. Field IPAICTOD may give you what you want. It's the value that you'll see as IPL time when you use IPCS subcommand IPLDATA STATISTICS. Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun snip Doug Fuerst Consultant BK Associates Brooklyn, NY (718) 921-2620 (Office) (718) 921-0952 (Fax) (917) 572-7364 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Dave - What a coincidence--just last week I opened an ETR for what I suspect may be the exact same issue, except I'm using 3390-9's instead of -3's. After some initial investigation, the SMS L2 technician thinks that OA20446 may resolve the issue, but he needs to confirm that with Development. OA20446 talks about the FAST_VOLSEL SMS parameter and we do have FAST_VOLSEL turned ON, but I get the same results even if I turn it OFF. Larre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:06:57 -0400, Doug Fuerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun snip Doug Fuerst Consultant BK Associates Brooklyn, NY Just E-X-C-E-R-C-I-S-E maybe?! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
Management is history buffs, this is nearest thing they can get to a gladiatorial combat. They are looking forward to some good action and a few rolling heads ! Hail to the Caesar ! On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:06:57 -0400, Doug Fuerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun snip Doug Fuerst Consultant BK Associates Brooklyn, NY (718) 921-2620 (Office) (718) 921-0952 (Fax) (917) 572-7364 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Here is some info from Marist College for a program that is being developed in conjunction with IBM and several other companies, us included. We have had one of our people in the first group taking this set of courses and he stated that it was very intense. The online courses for z are being taught by very experienced IBM techies. According to a recent article on ServerWatch.com, 95% of the Fortune 500 companies continue to use mainframes, and about 2/3 of all business transactions for U.S. retail banks run on them. Yet many professionals who manage these mainframe computers are retiring. IBM has set a goal to get 20,000 new mainframe literate IT professionals by 2010. To address the continuing need for mainframe skills, IBM and the Marist Center for Collaborative and On-Demand Computing (CCODC) have jointly developed the On-Demand with Enterprise Systems certificate program. This program consists of a series of online training modules that will help you increase your knowledge of the System z platform through experienced-based learning. The program is aimed at working professionals and is available through the Marist IDCP (Institute of Data Center Professionals - www.idcp.org). The certificate program is a three-tiered offering of training modules that will enable industry professionals to earn three System z certificates from Marist as outlined below. The first two years of the program are the same for all participants. In the third year, participants will choose a specific track of study: application development or systems administration. Scholarships for the program are available on a competitive basis. In addition to Marist certificates, the first course (Introduction to the z/OS Operating System and Components) will prepare students to take the worldwide IBM System z Entry Level for z/OS System Programmer Mastery Test. CERTIFICATE PROGRAM: System z Associate Certificate (9/10/07-5/16/08): This first certificate is a series of 3 modules that introduce the z/OS Operating system and major. The modules in the program are: * Introduction to the z/OS Operating System and Components * System z Networking * System z Security System z Professional Certificate (9/10/07-5/16/08): This certificate program is offered to participants who have successfully completed the System z Associate certificate. The Professional Certificate introduces advanced System z topics: * Advanced Topics in zArchitecture: (including z/OS Assembler Language) * RAS and Diagnostics (Availability, Serviceability, and Diagnostics) * Emerging Technologies (Linux, Grid Computing, Service Oriented Architecture) On-demaEMAnd witITh eEnterpriseTERPRISE sSystemsSTEMS CertificateERTIFICATE programPROGRAM System z Expert Certificate (Will be offered September 2008): This certificate requires completion of the first two certificates above. The System z Expert certificate then gives participants a choice of two tracks to pursue. The first track covers the System z application development environment and the second track covers System z system administration. Application Development Track: * Application Development Environment and Deployment on System z, Unix System Services, Eclipse, WDz (WebSphere Development for z/OS) * J2EE on System z Systems Administration Track: * Operating System, Installation, Configuration (JES, RACF, TSO, SMP/E and Fixes) * System Measurement and Tuning (WLM configuration, SMF and RMF) FORMAT Online, non-credit training modules ADdMISSIONnS REQUIREMENnTS Applicants to the On-Demand with Enterprise Systems Certificate program must submit: * completed application (application form available at www.idcp.org/learnzos.htm) * employer recommendation APPLICATIONn FOR FALL 2007 Accepted March 15, 2007 through June 30, 2007 FOR MORE INnFORMATIONn OR ANn APPLICATIONn The Institute for Data Center Professionals (IDCP) Marist College 3399 North Road Poughkeepsie, New York 12601 - 1387 Mary Ann Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-575-3611 MARIST Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame) Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. As I recall, your installation runs OS/390 V2R10, right? Does this mean the powers that be are considering updating / upgrading? That would be good news. Here's some resources, mostly culled from ibm-main posts ... Some articles John McKown posted back in 2004: Mainframe Catalogs: the untold story http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/15/mainframe_catalogs/ IBM CICS legacy at the heart of SOA http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/07/ibm_soap/ The mainframe is back http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/22/mainframe_is_back/ Happy birthday, Mainframe http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/08/mainframe_birthday/ Alan Field of SuperValue posted the link to ibm's Academic Initiative z Series part in Feb. 2005: Check out Promoting Mainframe Education http://www.ibm.com/university/zseries Paul Beesley of EDS in Bournemouth, in Feb. 2005 posted: an interesting article about the true cost of the mainframe versus other platforms ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/audio/pdfs/newdino.pdf Ed Jaffe of Phoenix Software posted this in Mar. 2005: http://www.esj.com/news/article.aspx?EditorialsID=1312 Aaron Walker of the State of Texas, in Sept. 2005 posted this link: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/sep05/lieberman/ In January, 2006, John Wynton of Themis Training posted: http://www.esj.com/news/article.aspx?EditorialsID=1597 We have the following resources on our website: What we call Very Short Presentations on modern mainframes at: http://www.trainersfriend.com/General_content/VSP_site.htm http://www.trainersfriend.com/Papers/Future_of_Mainframe.pdf Good luck. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Thanks Jon. Subject: Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame) Here is some info from Marist College for a program that is being developed in conjunction with IBM and several other companies, us included. We have had one of our people in the first group taking this set of courses and he stated that it was very intense. The online courses for z are being taught by very experienced IBM techies. According to a recent article on ServerWatch.com, 95% of the Fortune 500 companies continue to use mainframes, and about 2/3 of all business transactions for U.S. retail banks run on them. Yet many professionals who manage these mainframe computers are retiring. IBM has set a goal to get 20,000 new mainframe literate IT professionals by 2010. To address the continuing need for mainframe skills, IBM and the Marist Center for Collaborative and On-Demand Computing (CCODC) have jointly developed the On-Demand with Enterprise Systems certificate program. This program consists of a series of online training modules that will help you increase your knowledge of the System z platform through experienced-based learning. The program is aimed at working professionals and is available through the Marist IDCP (Institute of Data Center Professionals - www.idcp.org). The certificate program is a three-tiered offering of training modules that will enable industry professionals to earn three System z certificates from Marist as outlined below. The first two years of the program are the same for all participants. In the third year, participants will choose a specific track of study: application development or systems administration. Scholarships for the program are available on a competitive basis. In addition to Marist certificates, the first course (Introduction to the z/OS Operating System and Components) will prepare students to take the worldwide IBM System z Entry Level for z/OS System Programmer Mastery Test. CERTIFICATE PROGRAM: System z Associate Certificate (9/10/07-5/16/08): This first certificate is a series of 3 modules that introduce the z/OS Operating system and major. The modules in the program are: * Introduction to the z/OS Operating System and Components * System z Networking * System z Security System z Professional Certificate (9/10/07-5/16/08): This certificate program is offered to participants who have successfully completed the System z Associate certificate. The Professional Certificate introduces advanced System z topics: * Advanced Topics in zArchitecture: (including z/OS Assembler Language) * RAS and Diagnostics (Availability, Serviceability, and Diagnostics) * Emerging Technologies (Linux, Grid Computing, Service Oriented Architecture) On-demaEMAnd witITh eEnterpriseTERPRISE sSystemsSTEMS CertificateERTIFICATE programPROGRAM System z Expert Certificate (Will be offered September 2008): This certificate requires completion of the first two certificates above. The System z Expert certificate then gives participants a choice of two tracks to pursue. The first track covers the System z application development environment and the second track covers System z system administration. Application Development Track: * Application Development Environment and Deployment on System z, Unix System Services, Eclipse, WDz (WebSphere Development for z/OS) * J2EE on System z Systems Administration Track: * Operating System, Installation, Configuration (JES, RACF, TSO, SMP/E and Fixes) * System Measurement and Tuning (WLM configuration, SMF and RMF) FORMAT Online, non-credit training modules ADdMISSIONnS REQUIREMENnTS Applicants to the On-Demand with Enterprise Systems Certificate program must submit: * completed application (application form available at www.idcp.org/learnzos.htm) * employer recommendation APPLICATIONn FOR FALL 2007 Accepted March 15, 2007 through June 30, 2007 FOR MORE INnFORMATIONn OR ANn APPLICATIONn The Institute for Data Center Professionals (IDCP) Marist College 3399 North Road Poughkeepsie, New York 12601 - 1387 Mary Ann Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-575-3611 MARIST Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame) Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Hi. Yes they are please keep your fingers crossed out there. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Steve Comstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame) Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. As I recall, your installation runs OS/390 V2R10, right? Does this mean the powers that be are considering updating / upgrading? That would be good news. Here's some resources, mostly culled from ibm-main posts ... Some articles John McKown posted back in 2004: Mainframe Catalogs: the untold story http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/15/mainframe_catalogs/ IBM CICS legacy at the heart of SOA http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/07/ibm_soap/ The mainframe is back http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/22/mainframe_is_back/ Happy birthday, Mainframe http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/08/mainframe_birthday/ Alan Field of SuperValue posted the link to ibm's Academic Initiative z Series part in Feb. 2005: Check out Promoting Mainframe Education http://www.ibm.com/university/zseries Paul Beesley of EDS in Bournemouth, in Feb. 2005 posted: an interesting article about the true cost of the mainframe versus other platforms ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/audio/pdfs/newdino.pdf Ed Jaffe of Phoenix Software posted this in Mar. 2005: http://www.esj.com/news/article.aspx?EditorialsID=1312 Aaron Walker of the State of Texas, in Sept. 2005 posted this link: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/sep05/lieberman/ In January, 2006, John Wynton of Themis Training posted: http://www.esj.com/news/article.aspx?EditorialsID=1597 We have the following resources on our website: What we call Very Short Presentations on modern mainframes at: http://www.trainersfriend.com/General_content/VSP_site.htm http://www.trainersfriend.com/Papers/Future_of_Mainframe.pdf Good luck. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
Thanks Rob, That's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Dave Cole At 6/25/2007 02:51 PM, you wrote: SMCAITME and SMCAIDTE in the SMCA (IEESMCA is the mapping macro - SYS1.MACLIB) SMCA pointed to by CVTSMCA Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
In a message dated 6/25/2007 2:15:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. I always thought it was CAIS (Cranial-Anal Insertion Syndrome). Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Dave, What model 3390 are you using? A mod-3 only has 3339 cyls, while you are = using CYLINDERS(3999 005) - Suggest you try a smaller Primary. For multi-volume files I often used cyls(300 200) which gave me an entire volume in 16 extents if it was empty and the freedom to allocate to other partially used volumes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
LOL, I like that. One would think that maybe screwing up an SMP zone and having them resolve it, or botch and install and have them fix it would be a better test these days. At 03:15 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: Management is history buffs, this is nearest thing they can get to a gladiatorial combat. They are looking forward to some good action and a few rolling heads ! Hail to the Caesar ! On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:06:57 -0400, Doug Fuerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. snpip Doug Fuerst Consultant BK Associates Brooklyn, NY (718) 921-2620 (Office) (718) 921-0952 (Fax) (917) 572-7364 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding the last IPL time
As mentioned, my IPLINFO exec displays it - using those fields from the SMCA. They have been there *a long time*. But there is also a field in the IPA - IPAICTOD - defined as when system initialization ended. It is slightly before the time in the SMCA and is GMT, not local. IPAICTOD also matches what you see when you use the D IPLINFO operator command. Another place it is, that I have seen defined as when initialization began, is the SHID_TODCL field in the SHID. It is also in GMT. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:51:38 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SMCAITME and SMCAIDTE in the SMCA (IEESMCA is the mapping macro - SYS1.MACLIB) SMCA pointed to by CVTSMCA Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: 25 June 2007 19:45 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Finding the last IPL time Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HR policy
On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote: ---unsnip-- There are also companys that will give you all the education you ask for, because the rest of the compensation package is so shamefully poor. A catalog-shopping firm I know of comes to mind. It was common knowledge that you went here, picked their pockets for all the education you could get in 2-3 years, then went to a real shop. The compensation package for employees included only very minimal health insurance, with no provision for dependants, below-average salaries, very rigid work hours, minimal vacation time, all that kind of stuff. CAn I say Two sides to every coin?? Rick, At one time there was a 3rd kind (I know because I worked there). They gave you so much education (and travel) that your head nearly exploded. The compensation package was excellent (4 weeks vacation) the salary was pretty average though. We typically had people employed there because they enjoyed the work and there was really very little politics so much so that they stayed and almost no staff turnover. You had has much freedom as you wanted. The hours were typical and the people around you were generally nice people. They also kept on the cutting edge of IBM hardware and software. It kept you busy and learning all the time. There was very little finger pointing. One of the sysprogs was sent to Amsterdam for about a year to help them through a conversion. Another was sent down to Texas to help a subsidary with a capacity planning issue another was sent to a newspaper chain to suggest a new computer. We had our downside as well. A sysprog manager that called in sick 4 or 5 days a week to name one. It was not a perfect job but it was the best job I ever had . The company eventually relocated to Florida (due to politics in corporate). I have heard that most of the people that followed regretted it. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? Maybe the IS director is trying to justify another, more senior position. The existing sysprog is the president's PFCSK son, a whiz at windows - but not all that great a S390 gunslinger. Or maybe management wants to bring in a tester merely to *teach* that PFCSK. Once upon a time I used to do something like this to/for members of my staff. I'd arrange to come in way early in the morning, send the operator out for coffee, and then do *something*. When the operator came back, he'd find the IMS master complaining about e.g. a recalcitrant PTERM. Better take a look at that, I'd say unhelpfully. I'd watch him puzzle it out slowly, and offer leading questions if he appeared to be stuck. Is it active to VTAM? Is the phone line to that campus operational? Do you know where the cables are for that line? Are they connected? By the time he got to that interface switch that I'd flipped off on the oh-five, he'd gotten ten times as much value out of the exercise as he'd have gotten from varying the terminal off-and-on and calling a tech. Sure, test your sysprogs. Do it with good humor, and don't publish the results - it's the testing itself that's important. Then when you can't fool 'em anymore, they're promotable and you've done your job. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?
How can I generate a list of the datasets that HSM (1.7) recalls? I'm trying to identify the culprits that are causing tape take-aways during nightly primary space management processing. Once the culprits are identified I can update their management class as appropriate. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?
Check your HSMACT.*.MIG logs for the following: ARC0303I DATA SET fully.qaulified.data.set.name WILL BE RECALLED or scan your system logs for ARC0303I msgs Mainstar offers the HSM Report Manager which will also provide that information. It is what I use to minimize ML2 recall activity. From: Brian Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 6/25/2007 3:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM? How can I generate a list of the datasets that HSM (1.7) recalls? I'm trying to identify the culprits that are causing tape take-aways during nightly primary space management processing. Once the culprits are identified I can update their management class as appropriate. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?
We generate reports with that information from a daily MXG PDB file. We also have Mainstar's Reporter/Manager which will do the same as well. HTH, Bret Hoesly -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM? How can I generate a list of the datasets that HSM (1.7) recalls? I'm trying to identify the culprits that are causing tape take-aways during nightly primary space management processing. Once the culprits are identified I can update their management class as appropriate. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi. Yes they are please keep your fingers crossed out there. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. We will. And if it happens, we can bring your applications staff up to date quickly: one day - for everyone, Introduction to z/OS: http://www.trainersfriend.com/General_courses/A500Descrpt.htm two days - for your COBOL programmers, Enterprise COBOL Update I: Essentials: http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/d704descr.htm then go from there. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
David Andrews wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? Maybe the IS director is trying to justify another, more senior position. The existing sysprog is the president's PFCSK son, a whiz at windows - but not all that great a S390 gunslinger. Or maybe management wants to bring in a tester merely to *teach* that PFCSK. Once upon a time I used to do something like this to/for members of my staff. I'd arrange to come in way early in the morning, send the operator out for coffee, and then do *something*. When the operator came back, he'd find the IMS master complaining about e.g. a recalcitrant PTERM. Better take a look at that, I'd say unhelpfully. I'd watch him puzzle it out slowly, and offer leading questions if he appeared to be stuck. Is it active to VTAM? Is the phone line to that campus operational? Do you know where the cables are for that line? Are they connected? By the time he got to that interface switch that I'd flipped off on the oh-five, he'd gotten ten times as much value out of the exercise as he'd have gotten from varying the terminal off-and-on and calling a tech. Sure, test your sysprogs. Do it with good humor, and don't publish the results - it's the testing itself that's important. Then when you can't fool 'em anymore, they're promotable and you've done your job. Note that the OP was with a Chinese consulting company located in Beijing. That might put a different light on the speculation. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes
In a message dated 6/25/2007 2:15:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. Leave it to IBM to try to create IBMMain. I expect Destinationz to go the way of search390. Lets see, shun your back on us for 20 years, drop HESC, drop OS/2, drop MCA only to reappear on PowerPC and now they want us to teach COBOL and participate in a blue tint of myspace. Well, it'd be humorous if it weren't so sad. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
Digging a little further ... Sunflower Consulting and Services Co., Ltd. is a 100% Canadian owned Company operates in China. We specialize in IBM mainframe system and application services and have been providing high quality services to customers in China. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Testing System Programmer Capabilities David Andrews wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? Maybe the IS director is trying to justify another, more senior position. The existing sysprog is the president's PFCSK son, a whiz at windows - but not all that great a S390 gunslinger. Or maybe management wants to bring in a tester merely to *teach* that PFCSK. Once upon a time I used to do something like this to/for members of my staff. I'd arrange to come in way early in the morning, send the operator out for coffee, and then do *something*. When the operator came back, he'd find the IMS master complaining about e.g. a recalcitrant PTERM. Better take a look at that, I'd say unhelpfully. I'd watch him puzzle it out slowly, and offer leading questions if he appeared to be stuck. Is it active to VTAM? Is the phone line to that campus operational? Do you know where the cables are for that line? Are they connected? By the time he got to that interface switch that I'd flipped off on the oh-five, he'd gotten ten times as much value out of the exercise as he'd have gotten from varying the terminal off-and-on and calling a tech. Sure, test your sysprogs. Do it with good humor, and don't publish the results - it's the testing itself that's important. Then when you can't fool 'em anymore, they're promotable and you've done your job. Note that the OP was with a Chinese consulting company located in Beijing. That might put a different light on the speculation. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IRD - CSSPQ
Hi Has anyone implemented CSSPQ on their machines? The implementation looks fairly straightfoward and seems to be a no-brainer. Anyone have any experiences to share on this? Thanks Nick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VTS Questions
We are z/OS V1R7. We have two systems..we are not sysplex. We have CA-1 TMS. We have 2 VTS the VTS are connected to both systems. When I added logical volumes to one of the boxes - half of the request got processed on one system and the other half got processed on the other system. When I display the volumes the half that got processed on the wrong system has that system category. How can I reprocess those volumes and get the correct category? I thought about deleting the volume, but the manual states that the volumes can only be deleted by a host system command or eject the volume. The volume can not be ejected because it is a logical volume. What command should I use? How should I prevent future additions of logical volumes so they are only processed on the correct machine? Any help would be appreciated, Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
On 25 Jun 2007 07:23:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charokee Sun) wrote: Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. I've been enjoying the responses to this. I'm in general agreement that we shouldn't give that kind of information on a public forum, and that the OP shouldn't have asked. However, in terms of testing a sysprog: A much better test than being able to hack a system is being able to undo the results of such a hack. I've seen users accidentally bring a system to its knees, and a sysprog's job is to get the system going again without an IPL, and with minimal impact on schedules and people. -- I cannot receive mail at the address this was sent from. To reply directly, send to ar23hur at intergate dot com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?
On Mon, 21 May 2007 13:08:55 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: Also, if you lose the timer, you can recover and run without it. It takes a few seconds for error recovery and to present the option on the console. By this time, most of our communication sessions time out, so we've got some work to do to get everything reconnected. But batch JOBs continue to run and everything else runs just fine too once you restart all your VTAM applications and such. We just had our first opportunity to disconnect the timer and run without it since upgrading to z/OS 1.7. It was a non-event. No stoppage at all. Just a nasty message on the console about losing ETR ports and losing the ETR, but everything kept running. No prompt to answer or anything. And it recovered automatically when we reattached the timer as well. When we were on OS/390 2.10 (and z/OS 1.4 if I recall correctly), it would lock up every LPAR and make you answer a console prompt before proceeding. Lots of interactive things used to time out. This is much nicer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: how to list LE options
On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Chase, John wrote: --SNIP- The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. The two steps we made to stop the process was taking away access to sys1.maclib and also not allowing assembler to be invoked. Oh Sort of like, None of the folks knew how to use a lawn mower, so they banned lawns. Must have been a gummint shop. John, The programmers were the one to initiate this process. They were the ones who only knew COBOL and could not figure out assembler. They were far from dumb just not trained in assembler. I guess I couldn't blame them. It would be like getting called in on APL2 and not having a clue what it was. I certainly wasn't conversant in it. I was able to call IBM and report the problem and get a resolution to it. But did not know anything but how to spell it. In the case of assembler they had no one to call. One could argue they could learn it but not at 2AM. There was no sense in trying to hire programmers who already knew it as 100 percent (or 99.9) of the programs was written in COBOL. Would you hire (at more $$) a person that might never use his (or her) expertise? Do you think a programmer would even consider such a position? My feeling and talking with hiring managers then the answer is no. This was back in the early 80's and finding experience programmers was just difficult. Ed -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-Allocate / SMS
May I ask why you are converting off of CA-Allocate? How did you like it when you were using it? We are going to be trialing the product and may eventually purchase it. They have a quota feature that may be useful with CA-Vantage to give us some information. This product may also be a replacement for StopX37. TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
If you do not know how to accomplish this task then your company is not suited to the task and should decline the offer. There are better ways to test the abilities of staff than cuasing damage of any kind. On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hanging/re-IPLing the whole system. Just want to know whether anyone out there have done any similar test before and willing to share what they have tested. Btw, we will be provided with powerful TSO user IDs but won't be allowed to touch any system module and probably just to change some control blocks in memory. Somehow, it seems easy to think what you can do in CICS and DB/2 but it's easier said than done in MVS. The systems programmers will be given at least 1-1/2 hour limit to resolve the problem. Thanks and regards Eric Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)
On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Bob, This is a put on right? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem
hmmm...I see. Thanks, Mark. I think, I am working on the most fragile/brittle system ! I had the .profile set up with the STEPLIB variable that you mentioned earlier. No changes since then. And, guess what ? The same problem again !! This system seems to have its own mind - and a highly idiosyncratic one at that ! Regards, Nags. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE
You do realize a 3390-27 is not just a bigger physical 3390 from the days of old where big round platters were stuck on a spindle, right? That 3390-27 is a software emulated disk spread over a bunch of smaller physical drives. So the PAV is important IF you will be trying to do many concurrent I/Os from different tasks. If you have one really humonguous DB2 table with one DB2 subsystem doing the I/O then where is your bottleneck causing delays? The PAV allows more requestors to access the volume at the same time. Those little disks in your dasd array get accessed by the software in the dasd array which do the real I/O to satisfy your virtual I/O request. So how many data sets and concurrent requestors you are trying to support are key in understanding whether you will see a performance problem. On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:36:26 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are considering use of 3390-27 devices particularly for some large DB2 tablespaces. Does anyone have any experience with performance issues with such devices our know where I can find documentation regarding such issues ? I understand that use of PAVs is a must. Thanks. OK, I'll bite. Why? A DB2 tablespace is composed of multipe unique VSAM clusters. There should not be any problem that I know of with anything like the 59 volume limit for a multivolume dataset. Or am I wrong on this point? I could well be. Anyway, without PAV your I/O performance will likely be worse due to I/O queuing on the UCB. Without PAV, you can only have one I/O active on a volume at a time. With PAV, a single volume can have multiple I/O addresses and activity on all of them concurrently. Just stating this to be complete. Efficient use of a -27 fairly much demands PAV. The other consideration could be disaster recovery. If you need -27 sized volumes at the disaster site, the provider may charge you extra for that over having the equivalent space on -3 sized volumes. Also, how are you backing up your DB2 data? If you're using DB2 utilities, then I think you wll be OK. But if you are using DFDSS or FDR to do volume level backups, then a -27 will likely take up to 9x as long to back up because of the way that DFDSS (and I think FDR) does its backup. I doubt that many use DFDSS or FDR to do volume backups of DB2, but I don't know. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
